‘Nightline’ coming to Atlanta April 9 for live debate about why successful black women can’t get a man
ABC’s “Nightline’ is taping an episode April 9 in Decatur about how tough it is for college-educated black women to find good black men.
Radio host and best-selling relationships author Steve Harvey will moderate with Vicki Mabrey, a “Nightline” correspondent. Mabrey said Atlanta was picked specifically because of the high number of professional black women in the city.
“A lot of women have satisfying, fulfilling jobs,” Mabrey said. “They have family, church and close friends. Women are not held down in the kitchen anymore. But they still want a man. As Billy Dee Williams said, ‘Success is nothing without anyone to share it with.’ That’s been the mantra to deal with.”
The network is seeking 600 people to populate the crowd from 7 to 9 p.m. It’s free, first come first serve. Mabrey said in an interview earlier this week that she expects the audience to be heavily packed with women. She’s hoping enough guys can come in to present their viewpoints.
The panel includes two single men: actor and perpetual bachelor Hill Harper (”CSI: NY, right) and Jimi Izrael, NPR contributor and author of “The Denzel Principle” who has been married twice and divorced twice and seems to be a bit peeved at black women. They are joined by Sherri Shepherd from “The View,” a divorcee who has discussed this subject many times on the show, and Clark Atlanta grad and journalist Jacque Reid, last seen on VH1’s “Let’s Talk about Pep.”
The show is scheduled to air at 11:35 p.m. on Wednesday, April 21, presuming breaking news does not postpone it. The full two-hour forum will be available online here the same day it airs.
“Nightline” will pose questions such: Are black women’s expectations too high? Who’s to blame: black women or black men? Is it just bad demographics, with twice as many college-educated black women than black men? Should black women date outside their race?
Mabrey said the forum came about after such a strong reaction from a piece “Nightline” aired last December (focused on Atlanta.) Check that story out here:
The event is at Porter Sanford Performing Arts Center in Decatur, Georgia. The “Face-Off” is an occasional “Nightline” series launched two years ago in which hot topics are debated among prominent voices in their field. The first “Face-Off” topic was “Are we programmed to cheat?”
Where: Porter Sanford Performing Arts Center
3181 Rainbow Drive
Decatur, GA
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173 comments Add your comment
Peaches
April 9th, 2010
9:20 am
I think the people in general have become very superficial. I have some of the most superficial friends that seem to keep a man. I don’t have car requirements or anything like that, but I seem to have the hardest time. I just pray that my time will come and if it is taking this long when it is comes it is going to be just for me.I pray God send me a man that is thoughtful, respectful and decisive.
tim
April 9th, 2010
9:21 am
Hmmmm ANOTHER Discussion, Forum, Debate, March, Summit, Face-off, etc. concerning black people. What’s up with that? No other group, race, etc. has so many of these. Seems like not many of them are solving any problems in “the community”.
Brothers and Sisters?? Come on now……..
Round and round it goes………
DBH
April 9th, 2010
9:23 am
@Peaches: In the ATL, going to a Hawks or Falcons game is the same as going to the club for a lot of black women.
Peaches
April 9th, 2010
9:27 am
@DBH Yes it is.. too much for me ..but it seems that is what the men of Atlanta want. Which is find again everyone has preferences.. I have no choice but to respect it and wait!
itamazesme
April 9th, 2010
9:28 am
@MiltonMan – stop race baiting please – it isn’t working – She said no such thing – people can date who they want and who they prefer – it doesn’t mean that they are racist – the topic that is being discussed is about the BLACK man – and the BLACK woman – when an article is posted on the interracial dating and marriage – then you can chime in with your race baiting tactics – until then….Try and have a pleasant day!!
Marie
April 9th, 2010
9:29 am
Well I am one of the single,professional college educated black females who has HIGH STANDARDS for the type of man I desire to marry. Does he need to make 6 figures and drive a late model luxury car? No. Does he have to be college educated? No Does he need to love the Lord? You betcha!! Does he have to have a sound mind, good values, morales, care about his health? Yes siree bob!!! For people to get on this forum and act like its wrong for single,black women to have principles and values and want the same thing from their husband is absolutely stupid.
Sorry I don’t want a man who has been divorced, not only for religious reasons; but it is simply a FACT that divorced individuals are more likely to pull that trigger a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and on and on time. I want a man who knows that marriage is a lifetime commitment. I don’t want a man who has multiple children by multiple women — sorry buddy but you are a player. And players just DO NOT make stable mates. Also, you have to into such a situation with the knowledge that you could possibly have to be a mother to anyone of his multiple kids if something happens to their real mom. And for every under aged child he is supporting reduces the income coming into your home. And if he’s not supporting his kids then you need to run from this joker.
I think Tony hit the nail on the head — there seems to too many men out there who want to play the field and then when I’m ready to settle down I’ll be able to find a good woman. What they don’t realize is that the good women have standards, morals, values, and prinicples and they just don’t want to be bothered with your shaddy past.
Now does that mean I may be single for the rest of my life. Quite possibly. And that options does not bother me one bit. I have now lived more than half of my adult life as single black female and I am doing just fine. When I pray I often THANK THE LORD for how he takes care of me in FINE STYLE and I do not have to compromise my values in order to maintain a good standard of living. And that includes sleeping around (still a virgin), having a sugar daddy, or just settling for a husband just to say I got married. Please I have seen too many women make that silly decision and it has always ended in separation, divorce, or just an unhappy marriage.
So judge me all you want to, But I would rather be happy and single then settle for less and be in a miserable marriage anyday.
Reio
April 9th, 2010
9:34 am
Great Comment Tim. ( 9:21 AM )
Let Me Say This. I, As A Single, Educated Male, Am Looking For Intelligence And Femininity. I Neither
Need Nor Desire To Date Another Man.
SassyT
April 9th, 2010
9:34 am
I too, like cclovegod, love the Black man. While I have dated outside of my race in the past, I prefer a strong Black man. @MiltonMan, the comment about the white man not being perfect is not about being racist, it is in response to the suggestion that if a Black woman can’t find a Black man, then she should look outside of her race–to a white man. Everything said where race is mentioned is not always racist.
For those who think that education is irrelevant in a relationship, try dating someone who doesn’t understand basic english. You may be speaking a foreign language to eachother but you are both speaking english. Try dating someone who has no interest in the things that may interest you, i.e.: politics, the news, community affairs. Though he may be a wonderful person, just what do you have to talk about with him. At some point in a relationship, you have to talk to him, find out what makes him tick, what he’s passionate about. If he hasn’t figured this out for himself, it makes the relationship difficult at best, and leaves her drained in trying to make something work, that really won’t. @MiltonMan, this is not racist but just a question. Do educated white women have to date men who are not similar to them in education? Are they searching from a small number of compatible men because they majority of the men they prefer are in jail, prison, on the D/L, locked out of certain employment industries, still searching to find themselves, etc.? These are just some of the issues that Black women are faced with in looking for a man or waiting for a man to find them. White wome may face some of these issues, but not in the same numbers as do Black women, nor do these issues affect white women and their communities like the do Black women and their communities.
This is not just about finding a man. This is a about building strong Black families and strong, well-balance Black children to be productive members of the greater society.
Reio
April 9th, 2010
9:41 am
SassyT,
Wonderful Wonderful Post. God Bless You. Thank You.
DEWSTARPATH
April 9th, 2010
9:42 am
Black women can’t find a man –
Ever hear of a DATING SERVICE ?
hotlanta
April 9th, 2010
9:42 am
Thanks Marie. Since when did being black/single is a problem as if it is some kind of disease. Oh so Tiger and Jesse goes to rehab for cheating on their spouses and it is called sex addiction. But a single/black woman is damned to go to hell because she is single. Someone needs to ask Steve what happened to that rug in his head. Was it that groundhog that predicted when spring will come. How are women praying for a man when their bills are due and the forsclosure sign is on your door. Stop the madness please. Did anyone ask why the Mayor of Atlanta is single. Where is his wife?
MiltonMan
April 9th, 2010
9:56 am
itamazesme, reign was the one who interjected race into the thread not me. You are barking up the wrong tree. Why not call out reign??? Is racism acceptable to you??? I will however, call out racism whenever I see it regardless of what the original post topic is. If you don’t agree, then I would consider yourself racist.
SassyT, I know plenty of white women who marry “down” but I agree it is probably more difficult for Black women. Love & trust should be what is important – not the color of skin, money, car, etc. I have dated women of all races and I can truthfully say that most American women (black, white, asian, etc.) are more spoiled than women of other countries and their expectations are often too high.
RMJ
April 9th, 2010
9:58 am
Wow, a lot of great comments on this forum. Thanks for that. But I read a lot of pain and anger. That makes me sad. Black Men, please believe that Black women love and adore you. A lot of us are hurting due to the lack of a relationship. Bottom line is blaming each other ‘blindly’ is not the answer. We have a serious problem in our community with our family being destroyed. This is solely based on the absence (sp) of our Black Men. Let’s try to work together to create healthy relationship which will make healthy family and healthy and strong kids.
CONSERVATIVE
April 9th, 2010
10:00 am
LORDY….LORDY……..THE ANSWER IS STARING U N THE FACE…….successful black men prefer blonds……DOES TIGER WOOD RING A BELL………..DOES CLARENCE THOMAS RING A BELL…O.J. HAD SEVERAL BLOND GIRL FRIENDS..
CONSERVATIVE
April 9th, 2010
10:00 am
LORDY….LORDY……..THE ANSWER IS STARING U N THE FACE…….successful black men prefer blonds……DOES TIGER WOOD RING A BELL………..DOES CLARENCE THOMAS RING A BELL…O.J. HAD SEVERAL BLOND GIRL FRIENDS..
Justine
April 9th, 2010
10:02 am
Trust me it is not just Black women. Why does every one want to talk about the negatives among Blacks. I know a lot of Black women with college degrees who are married to Black men who either have equal degress and success or are success in their fields. In some cases Black men are married to Black women who make far less than they do and they are very happy. We need to stop all of this talk about the negatives in Blackness and the possitives. When you hear a negative percentage reverse it and see how many more are doing well and right.
CONSERVATIVE
April 9th, 2010
10:05 am
WHY IS STEVE HARVEY worried about the relationships of other blacks-??STEVE…mind your own business………If they are out there……black women will find their own way…..without your interference…….LEAVE OTHERs alone.
OverIT
April 9th, 2010
10:06 am
Please stop blaming Black Women. The truth is most of our Brothers cannot handle a successful black woman. If she chooses to be with someone who has not reached her level, he eventually gets so jealous that he tries to bring her down either in spirit or finds a way to make her stop climbing that ladder.
Men just need to realize that the game has changed. Yes, we still need you. “Every little thing wants to be loved”. We just don’t need you to run us. We want to partner with you, not be told what to wear, what to eat, how to wear our hair, etc.. Believe it or not most of us also want to help you achieve your dreams, too.
Grow up and deal with it! All we want is someone to meet us half way. We are arrogant, we’re tired.
itamazesme
April 9th, 2010
10:06 am
@MiltonMan – I directed my post at you because I felt it was warranted. I am not a dog therefore tree barking is not what I do. Reign was expressing what she prefers – she prefers to date within her race – NOT RACIST – just as there are whites who prefer to date within their race – that is not racism either – it is a preference. Not being racist just stating a fact how would you understand the issues that black women or men have when they deal with each other. I think that you are being way too liberal in your definition of what racism is. Me? Racist? – okay. I guess I am because I disagree with you. Somhow I think webster would disagree with you on your definition of racism.
CL
April 9th, 2010
10:07 am
I believe any woman that needs a comedian to tell them how to get a man is already admitting self defeat and low esteem. Your choice of when and where to go there with a man is an individual decision, not one that can be theorized by an overpaid washed up comedian.
I dont think women should settle, but they also shouldnt choose their partners. Women need to have auditions that ask a man to show more about himself than the size of his D, his wallet, his house and his cars….because lets be real, brothers with that many options are pimping…..pimps arent good men no matter how much money they have.
I personally have had my struggles with successful sisters. I still dont think there is a typical “ailment” in the ones I’ve dated…..in general….we just had our own struggles to relate to one another in many areas……..there are occasionally some ego jousts and control struggles…..but most of the times it was simply a personality and intimacy mismatch. I dont think its asking a lot to ask a woman to be able to relate on all levels, just like a man shouldnt have to choose between being a nerd or a thug.
MiltonMan
April 9th, 2010
10:08 am
Taking relationship advice from Steve Harvey is like getting advice on how to stop drinking from an alcoholic.
OverIT
April 9th, 2010
10:09 am
“not” arrogant
sunnyday
April 9th, 2010
10:09 am
I was once married to my career,spent a lot of time hanging out with my superficial girls, we always put black men down,you see me and my girls would travel, we have our own homes and cars and yes we live large.
So the guys i would date, I thought could never live up to how I was living.And they didn’t have enough money for me. I just used them like toys and me and my girls would get together laugh and compare them.
We would not even give them second thought. Out Status meant so much to us.
And then one day at 32yrs.I wanted to be married and have a family. I went to God In Prayer and I ask God for a Husband, But I have to repent first and I had give up my ways. I was put through some test, And Yes God sent me a good Man, and I’m proud to say he is a Truck Driver for UPS.
Yes my income is more than his but I let him be the man in our Marriage, and we have a good marriage with 3 boys.
I found out I had to give up a lot of mess and humble myself before God.
I was really caught up with status, and I felt no man could give me the life I was living, But As Black women we do need to step down a little, and Give some of these men a chance,Not all Black or educated but some have a trade and have a good income we must learn to be thankful and ask God to oversee our marriage. I love my Husband and we have a good marriage. God really Bless me with a Good Man. But it Was Because I had to learn to Humble myself and be Thankful. Sisters it’s good to be educated have your degree, But There are some real good Black Men out There.
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OverIT
April 9th, 2010
10:21 am
And another thing – a woman should not be labeled because she chose to go to college and make good career choices. Just because she is a career woman with a degree does not mean she wants to control you or anybody else. Unfortunately for most of us the independence thing is a survival mechanism. One that we would give up in a heartbeat to a man that could show us he has his act together and that we can depend on him to carry the torch. We could care less if he was a UPS driver or a CEO. And there people lies the truth. We are not seeing that in our Black men. Sorry.
Chocolate Doll
April 9th, 2010
10:33 am
@Over IT… well said.
Wow, I never thought furthering your education and handling your business was such a crime! Black women that have all of these qualities and that are not superficial are still out here. Maybe you are looking in the wrong places. Maybe you are over-looking the very one you need to be with. I am a Black woman with a MPA, good job, one child (16 year old son), knows how to treat a man, and can talk about anything from football to the issues of what’s going on in the world. I have to secure my career and education to take of my son (before anyone starts, his father is deceased) and my parents if they fall ill…God forbid.
It seems to me that the problem doesn’t lie with only Black women. Let’s talk about Black men not WANTING to be married. You can’t make anyone marry you. I know many men in their late 30’s and early/late 40s are still “out there” trying to be with everything that has a hole. They will be the ones, down the road, in their 60s and 70s (sick, broke–down, and needing someone to wipe their a$$) without someone to grow old with and no children to take care of them because they were out chasing everything, instead of trying to make it work with that “one” you let go.
It happened to me a year and half ago. Needless to say, he is constantly trying to come back to me after he found out that what he left me for wasn’t what he thought she was. As a matter of fact, he has been blowing my phone up since the beginning of February. He says “he wants to have dinner and talk”. I finally decided to answer his call on Tuesday. Hmmmmmm…..
BTW, I am very open to dating outside my race…that is all
KIA
April 9th, 2010
10:36 am
Drexter, I like what you had to say but you didn’t offer a solution to the problem I am a single black female educated good job nothing fancy I believe in old fashioned ways I dont drink club or non of that stuff very attrative so i been told and I dont have a man. Its funny to see men post cause they say they wont a good women but they choose the one thats half dressed the one that dont cook and clean and allow them to use you then men lable weman as gold diggers are men honest about what they say that wont in a woman?
Purpleone
April 9th, 2010
10:48 am
Speaking from personal experience, in order to have a ‘fulfilling’ life, you must keep yourself busy. That could mean, continuing your education and moving up the corporate ladder, doing charity work, helping the less fortunate and being involved in your community and church.
With that said, if I were to sit around and simply pray for a man while following the scripture and not ‘live life’, then it would all be null and void…I can’t even get a date on an internet site (I’ve even paid for eHarmony and Match.com!); everyone seems to not want to move beyond ‘texting’ and email. Not sure what the disconnect is because I’m ‘told’ I’m attractive by most of society’s standards, great physical and emotional shape and do not look my age of 46, educated and hard working, own my home, have a side business, etc., yet, what I’m finding is that maybe a lot men can read immediately that I’m not going to take any crap by the way I carry myself so, that generally translates in to, no need to talk to her, I can’t pull any tricks on that one or my own game is not up to par!
So, am I not supposed to take a trip because I can’t find a date? Am I not supposed to go to summer concerts because no one wants to take me out? Am I not supposed to enjoy any of the finer things in life because no one has recognized the jewel that I am?
As I’m then left ‘alone’, I just continue to pray for guidance and for my mate to find me, stay busy while enjoying this time on earth and be the best I can be because unfortunately, I may not ever have anyone to share any of this with and that is a fact for me and many of my friends, who who have a similar story.
Build a bridge and get over it
April 9th, 2010
10:48 am
THANK YOU TONY…I know you don’t read this often, but I wanted to thank you on here anyway. Instead of everyone placing blame, there should be self-inventory of where the problem lies, then there should be changes within themselves that would affect everyone!! The demographic that is long neglected are the children of our communities, seeing the disconnect and mimicking what they see!! I also agree with TJ…we were taught wrong on what a Woman should and shouldn’t do, what we should and shouldn’t be, however, completely missing the mark and because we don’t know what we don’t know (at that time), we are now left with confusion and clean up!!
interesting
April 9th, 2010
10:53 am
I’m picking up a lot of envy from guys toward successful, beautiful, together black women.
Build a bridge and get over it
April 9th, 2010
10:54 am
@ Dexter, great point, but I’ve experienced Men who have all the great qualities you described, but one just gets under my skin: They act as if they are doing US, Me and the Human Race a favor if they pluck us from the depths of dating dispair and if we don’t ‘play our cards right’ there are plenty of other Women who will. Trust me, I don’t need sympathy d*ck, because it does come a dime a dozen, but I what I need is someone who will love and appreciate me for who I am AND who I’m not.
Purpleone
April 9th, 2010
10:54 am
@Chocolate Doll, you said something very profound…a lot of men are still ‘playing’, old ‘has been’ dogs out there still running game.
I know for a fact, it is some of the reason I, as a black woman, have a difficult time. I’ve even asked black male friends and co-workers and they’ve told me, you appear to have it together and most guys can look at you and know they can’t run the game so they don’t even bother…it’s like the Pheromones I give off say to men, I’m available but if you’re playing games, keep it moving…I really believe that!
I’ve opened myself to dating other races but I guess, everyone is quit ready for that as I’ve been on dating sites and emailed or ‘winked’ or ‘flirted’ with men of all races, most simply don’t respond.
Joe
April 9th, 2010
10:55 am
Kia………
If you really are educated, please ask for your money back. Your spelling and grammar are horrible. Maybe you don’t offer as much as you think!
dewstarpath
April 9th, 2010
10:58 am
I agree with Voice of Reason #1, Corey, and Lwilliams.
I like Steve Harvey, but he is starting to replace Tyler Perry
as the face of the “chitlin’ circuit”.
First:
Dexter Manley recieved a degree and couldn’t read a sentence.
A Ph.D from UC Berkeley in mathematics heade for the hills of
Montana and became the Unabomber. Monica Lewinski interned
at the White House only to perform a sex act on a US President,
and an astronaut who graduated fron the US Naval Academy drove
across the country in diapers to kill her rival for her lover’s affections.
On the other hand, there’s Bill Gates (Microsoft), Larry Ellison
(Oracle), Dean Kamen (DEKA, FIRST Robotics Competitions),
Michael Dell (Dell Computers), and classic innovators and scientists
such as Galileo Galilei, Henry Ford, and Thomas Edison, who only
made it to the third grade. None of them had a college degree.
Having a college degree doesn’t automatically make you
“educated” or “successful”. How many convicted criminals have
college degrees? You only become successful after years of
work that contributes to society, and the US is becoming
alarmingly uneducated, as the populaity of Housewives of (f.i.t.b.),
American Idol, and “debates” such as this “Face-Off” one
suggests.
Second:
Education for males is not a priority in the modern AA household.
Political correctness, closet racism and self-loathing, along with
rural values such as “women-in-the-household-(i.e. classroom)-and
men-in-the-field-(i.e. sports)” have contributed to this problem.
Third:
You don’t mix business (career) with pleasure (relationships).
The latter is a WANT, the former is a NEED.
This “successful black women can’t find a man” NONSENSE
is part of the “Me First” plague that is sweeping the nation –
a “my personal problems belong to every one else” mentality
that destroys the objectivity that defines real professionals.
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Sally
April 9th, 2010
11:01 am
Ugh, I’m soooooooo tired of hearing about this. Why don’t black women just find a man of ANOTHER RACE! There are perfectly good white, Asian, and Hispanic men out here who are open to interracial dating, that would make great husbands and fathers.
Chocolate Doll
April 9th, 2010
11:04 am
@ Sally…give me their phone number
Purpleone
April 9th, 2010
11:06 am
Me too Sally!
Chocolate Doll
April 9th, 2010
11:10 am
@ Purpleone…
Most want “it” easy. They don’t want to work at it. They know if they step to someone like you or me, they will have to talk like they have some sense and cut the crap!!!
I also have had men of other races smile at me and carry on casual conversations; however, I do believe that some are afraid to seriously talk because they have heard of the “angry, neck-rolling, attitude all over the place Black woman”. All of us are not like that.
Kitty
April 9th, 2010
11:12 am
Morehouse would seem the logical place to be around to find an educated man; but if you are just one block from campus you stand a good chance of getting mugged. So where is the ’strong community of black men’? Where is a girl to stand when our cimmunity can range from the-best, to the-slum in less than two city blocks?!?
hotlanta
April 9th, 2010
11:13 am
Newflash to those who you who are saying black women need to date white men with they want to find a good man to be a husband and a father. Garcele Beavasis-Nilon who is BLACK, found out her WHITE husband of 9 years was having an affair with someone for 5 years during the duration of their marriage. She has 2 kids by this man as well. No good men come in all colors not just black men. My point proven.
Chaos
April 9th, 2010
11:13 am
Not sure why producers won’t populate the audience with Black men,to get another perspective. We’ve all heard from Black women (and “professionals”) regarding the incarceration rates, difference in education level, absence of fathers in the home, and feelings toward interracial dating. Can someone (besides Hill Harper) talk to Black men for a change? Otherwise, I cannot imagine learning anything new for this show. Let men answer the questions women have to avoid speculation.
Rob
April 9th, 2010
11:20 am
I’m not black but I have a couple of black guy friends from college. All young (29-32) decent looking, educated, good jobs,etc – and these guys are like little mini celebs in Atlanta. They have this HUGE pool of black women that want them because they are rare. So what do these guys do?? They do what any man would do….not to sound crude….but they just bang a bunch of these girls….and they still date Asian/Hispanic/White girls….I mean they got it made. They know when they want to settle down they can do it with a black girl in a snap!. I’m not a woman but I’m sure it must be hard for a woman (any woman) in her late twenties early thirties with a professional background (CPA, MBA, JD, MD, RN, etc.) to date a guy who’s not at that level or even close. But dating ladies is market driven….maybe you should choose another market if you still want that guy who knows who Nitzsche is. Do you think in 200 years anyone in this country is going to be just white or just black just Hispanic….everyone will be mixed anyway. Besides, no black person in this country is 100% African. Open your markets. I did and I’m happy and that’s what’s important. ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Helen
April 9th, 2010
11:22 am
Is life not complete if you don’t have a man? I don’t think so. He is so concentrated on making this his issue, when it is not! Black successful women are happy with themselves, their family and their friends, leave them alone! He should concentrate on something more important like maybe mentoring young black men, enforcing Education, helping them to achieve goals, dressing with their pants up and not how inmates wear them. Keeping them out of Jail and from creating fatherless children. Let me quit I could go on.
Judgemental Joe forgive me if I spelled something wrong.
Chocolate Doll
April 9th, 2010
11:23 am
@ hotlanta…
I see you have read Sandra Rose early this morning.
No, your point was not made. Everybody knows that some men, as well as women in any race, will cheat. I love my Black men and I am not saying that white men are better. My father was a Black man. I am only stating that I am open to other races. Why not? Black men do it all of the time.
Orlando
April 9th, 2010
11:27 am
The problem with you women who are single is simple, you don’t understand that no matter what the income difference is between you and a man, he is STILL the head of the house. My wife makes alot more money than me, but she understands that I am still the head of the house. I work 50 plus hours a week and she still makes more only working 40, but she does’nt throw it in my face or make me feel she is more important just because of this. If you want to stay single, keep on thinking like you are now, but if you want a good black man, take a hard look at how you act, and maybe you will find one like me.
Chocolate Doll
April 9th, 2010
11:35 am
@ Kitty…
Uhhhh, Morehouse is not a good example….a lot of them want what I want.
GC
April 9th, 2010
11:35 am
All I want to know is, now that Steve Harvey got rid of that helmet haircut, can he please get rid of that Magnum P.I. , handlebar moustache? Or at least grow some hair on his chinny, chin, chin, it is 2010 by the way.
Purpleone
April 9th, 2010
11:36 am
@ Orlando, it is not always about the money. A man has to be a man, have the good sense to lead and guide the family, act like the head of the household and not get caught up in the fact that she makes more money…that can be a two-sided coin…the men that are intimidated by what that might mean in their own minds.
I don’t care if he makes more or less than me, if I can’t trust that he can make good decisions for ‘us’, then why is he to automatically lead me? Because the bible says so? We know that as the head of the household, he is supposed to do a whole lot of stuff so we can’t pick and choose what applies! I should be his help mate, and he is “supposed” to handle all of the business of the family. In that case, then it will work…if not, there will be problems.
MYTOOCENTS
April 9th, 2010
11:38 am
Here we go again…..another Steve Harvey (hen-pecked) series. Can we ever get a forum addressing the issues that black men face on a daily basis? In case anybody is watching, America has almost NO regard for the black male……except in sports and Tyler Perry movies!
Anyway, take a good look in ANY office today and you will see a PLETHORA of black women. Since employers would much rather hire a black women over a black man, this then translates into higher salaries and greater success for black women. Living in America, black women become distracted by white male dominance and their high salaries – then turn to their lowly black brotha and wonder what the hell is going on. Statistics show that black women are actually starting to earn more than white women on average. Now, it would be silly to assume that because I have a successful career that I should automatically have a successful relationship……..it’s just that women and men tend to be more aggressive when they achieve this success.
You see, white men knew (way back in the early 20th century), that if they kept money out of the hands of black men, they would be less attractive to white women……well, that trend continued and now black women are complaining. Due to this fact, black women have MUCH less respect for black men as white women have for their men. It’s funny how sistas complain about not being able to find a decent brotha, when at all of their gatherings they’re complimenting each other on their manipulation tactics. In case you didn’t realize it, a decent man can see through your manipulation a MILE away! Only thugs and bad boys will hang around for all that nonsense (b/c they don’t care). For the women who don’t have time for games, then maybe you need to broaden your scope if you want the ENTIRE package, b/c sadly their aren’t enough brotha’s with that package to go around. If your ONLY criteria is that a brotha be successful, then you’re probably (purposely) ignoring his other (more destructive) personality traits just so you can brag to your friends or enjoy a higher standard of living. That’s why black men with money are able to deceive you!