Your daily jolt: Gingrey open to limits on mag clips, says Todd Akin was ‘partly right’

Schmoozing with constituents in Smyrna on Thursday, U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Marietta, had already made news when he said that he was open to some new restrictions on firearms. From the first five paragraphs written by Jon Gillooly of the Marietta Daily Journal:

“There are some problems, and maybe these huge magazines even for someone who says, ‘look, I just use an AR-15 for target practice,’ but do you really need to be standing there shooting at a silhouette a shot a second or even quicker with that kind of weapon? For what purpose?” Gingrey asked. “I would be willing to listen to the possibility of the capacity of a magazine.”

Gingrey, who took the time to praise Adventure Outdoors owner Jay Wallace as the gold standard for running a responsible gun retail business, said he is also open to revisions of the so-called gun show loophole.

But then the Marietta congressman decided to wax eloquent on the most egregious Republican misstep of 2012 – the concept of “legitimate rape.” Gingrey said today that his remarks have been misconstrued, but you can listen to the audio provided by Gillooly:

Said Gingrey, in Gillooly’s piece:

“And in Missouri, Todd Akin … was asked by a local news source about rape and he said, ‘Look, in a legitimate rape situation’ — and what he meant by legitimate rape was just look, someone can say I was raped: a scared-to-death 15-year-old that becomes impregnated by her boyfriend and then has to tell her parents, that’s pretty tough and might on some occasion say, ‘Hey, I was raped.’ That’s what he meant when he said legitimate rape versus non-legitimate rape. I don’t find anything so horrible about that. But then he went on and said that in a situation of rape, of a legitimate rape, a woman’s body has a way of shutting down so the pregnancy would not occur. He’s partly right on that.”

Gingrey pointed out that he had been an OB-GYN since 1975.

“And I’ve delivered lots of babies, and I know about these things. It is true. We tell infertile couples all the time that are having trouble conceiving because of the woman not ovulating, ‘Just relax. Drink a glass of wine. And don’t be so tense and uptight because all that adrenaline can cause you not to ovulate.’ So he was partially right wasn’t he? But the fact that a woman may have already ovulated 12 hours before she is raped, you’re not going to prevent a pregnancy there by a woman’s body shutting anything down because the horse has already left the barn, so to speak. And yet the media took that and tore it apart.”

Gingrey’s office this morning offered additional commentary. On the congressman’s comments about Akin:

“At a breakfast yesterday morning, I was asked why Democrats made abortion a central theme of the presidential campaign. I do not defend, nor do I stand by, the remarks made by Rep. Akin and Mr. Mourdock. In my attempt to provide context as to what I presumed they meant, my position was misconstrued.”

On firearm restrictions:

“As a father and grandfather, I am heartbroken at the tragedy in Newtown. No parent, child, or community should have to suffer such devastation and overwhelming grief. At the same time, as we begin a national dialogue on how to prevent future tragedies, it is of paramount importance to defend our Second Amendment rights. Throughout my political career, I’ve been a tireless advocate of Second Amendment rights and will continue to be one moving forward.”

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House Speaker David Ralston didn’t sound like he’s willing to consider any gun restrictions, given these remarks to Scott Slade of AM750 and 95.5FM News/Talk WSB:

”Those who would advocate for control on guns and would restrict Second Amendment rights, I think have inappropriately capitalized on a horrific tragedy up in Newtown, Conn….

“If we take anything out of the Newtown tragedy, I think we ought to take a look at how we handle mental illness in our society. That seems to get lost in the discussion by those who want to use this to promote their anti-gun agenda.”

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Georgia Right to Life on Thursday named Mike Griffin, a Hartwell pastor, as the organization’s vice president.

Griffin has long been associated with GRTL, but the promotion means he’ll be back at the Capitol as a lobbyist on Monday, when the 2013 session of the Georgia General Assembly begins. From the press release:

In his new role, Griffin will spearhead the organization’s legislative activities, which include establishing “personhood” protection for all innocent life from conception until natural death.

“I am looking forward to working with Dan Becker and the Board,” Griffin said. “And that work will be to continue to promote a “personhood” approach to Georgia Right to Life’s education, legislation and political action.”

Consider Griffin’s appointment to be a signal to the Legislature that GRTL, the most aggressive of pro-life organizations at the Gold Dome, has no intention of changing its stripes.

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In the matter of the Rev. Louie Giglio and his withdrawal from the presidential inauguration program because of his 20-year-old remarks on homosexuality, the Christian Post offers this quote from Ed Stetzer, president of Lifeway Research:

chikfilalogo

“This Louie Giglio Moment, and the Chick-Fil-A moment that preceded it, and the Rick Warren moment which preceded that, raise the question: Where do people of faith with long-standing traditional religious/scriptural convictions go from here?”

But Giglio and Chick-Fil-A may share more than a commitment to faith and views on homosexuality. We haven’t confirmed it with the company, but friends of Giglio tell us that his dad, Louie Floyd Giglio Jr., was a graphic designer who had a hand in developing the Chick-Fil-A swirly logo.

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A Politico.com piece on the shaky future of the tea party includes these paragraphs:

The tea party “is in disarray,” said Erick Erickson, the editor of RedState, a blog that helped crystallize the fiscally conservative ethos of the populist movement. Going forward, tea partiers will “either be within the conservative movement as part of that movement or they won’t be effective.”

Polls have shown Americans turning away from the tea party: 24 percent of likely voters considered themselves tea party members in April 2010, according to a Rasmussen survey. Now, only 8 percent say they’re tea party members.

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Yes, “Lincoln” dominated those Oscar nominations that were released on Thursday. But politicos have their own Oscars – the Reed Awards sponsored by Campaigns & Elections magazine. And Georgia’s 2012 campaigners are finalists in several categories:

Best Use of Voice-Over Talent: Lee Anderson for Congress, The Strategy Group for Media, for its video depicting a “Bromance” between President Barack Obama and U.S. Rep. John Barrow, D-Augusta.

Mail: Independent Expenditure Campaign or Issue Advocacy: The Democratic campaign against state Rep. Doug McKillip, R-Athens, Mad Dog Mail, for a flyer comparing McKillip to a diaper in need of changing.

Best Radio Ad: Two ads by Franklin Communications/Peachtree Battle Group – “Dumb,” a turn-out spot for Black Men Vote; and “Obama Likes Charter Schools,” aimed at African-American voters in the November charter school campaign.

Toughest Radio Ad: A turnout spot by Franklin Communications/Peachtree Battle Group for Better Georgia, titled “Are There Any Patriots…”

Most Original/Innovative Collateral Item: John Lewis for Congress, for that campaign’s fund-raising decision to put a mugshot of Lewis after a Civil Rights-era arrest on T-shirts and posters.

Winners will be announced in Washington on Feb. 1.

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The AJC’s Politifact Georgia today takes a look at U.S. Rep. Tom Price’s claim that this month’s fiscal cliff deal “ultimately raised taxes.”

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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164 comments Add your comment

DJ Sniper

January 11th, 2013
10:43 am

Dear Republicans: When it comes to the topic of rape, please STFU. Stop trying to come up with different classifications. Rape is rape, and leave it at that.

It cracks me up whenever neo-cons blame Democrats for making abortion a central campaign theme. Last time I checked, it was the GOP that passed or tried to pass wave after wave of abortion legislation.

DJ Sniper

January 11th, 2013
10:46 am

Also, the demise of the Tea Party can’t come fast enough. I’m sure that there are some people within the party that have some good ideas, but sadly, the extremists and whackjobs have taken over.

ola

January 11th, 2013
10:48 am

Gingrey needs to go back to delivering babies as he does not know how the country should be governed.

J Throckmorton Malcontent

January 11th, 2013
10:49 am

Calling Dr.Howard, Dr.Fine, Dr.Howard, come to the Georgia Delegation Clue Phone, please…

Robert

January 11th, 2013
10:51 am

DJ Sniper,

You entirely missed the point: many women claim “rape” when in fact they consented. That’s not a legitimate rape, that’s a false claim. For example, the Duke lacrosse case.

So STFU with your one-size-fits-all-we-are-not-allowed-to-think answer.

ClydeFr0g

January 11th, 2013
10:51 am

Rep. Phil Gingrey,

Please show me in the Second Amendment where it mentions “target shooting”.

It’s sad when a “Republican” and a “Representative” doesn’t know the wording, the meaning, or the history of our Constitution.

Jon Lester

January 11th, 2013
10:52 am

Anti-gun people get their way by manipulating the ignorant and the foolish, and Gingrey is proving that they’re getting to him by just such a method. The Virginia Tech shooter used 19 10-round magazines, so that wouldn’t have stopped him either way.

Edward

January 11th, 2013
10:53 am

Gingrey and Broun, the perfect representation of Georgia idiocy in action.

Mary

January 11th, 2013
10:56 am

“We tell infertile couples all the time that are having trouble conceiving because of the woman not ovulating, ‘Just relax. Drink a glass of wine. And don’t be so tense and uptight because all that adrenaline can cause you not to ovulate.’”

Wow. What a crappy doctor.

DJ Sniper

January 11th, 2013
10:59 am

While it is true that some women will cry rape after they did consent, the fact remains that Akin’s remarks didn’t apply to this. That whole like about a woman’s body shutting down pregnancy in a
“legitimate rape” was GOP lunacy at its finest.

DJ Sniper

January 11th, 2013
11:00 am

I agree Mary.

mystery poster

January 11th, 2013
11:13 am

That is NOT what Akin meant by the “legitimate rape” comment, you need to read the whole thing. He said that if a woman is legitimately raped, she cannot get pregnant from that, that her body has a way of “taking care of that.”

And this from a man on the House Committee of Science.

mystery poster

January 11th, 2013
11:16 am

Road Scholar

January 11th, 2013
11:20 am

John Lester: Sort of like the conservatives saying President Obama is a Kenyan, socialist, communist, Muslim…I could go on with the manipulation of the “stupid”!

teaching taxpayer

January 11th, 2013
11:26 am

Bush 43’s adviser Karen Hughes wisely wrote, “And if another Republican man says anything about rape other than it is a horrific, violent crime, I want to personally cut out his tongue.” Congressman Gingrey has a safe seat. He’d better be glad he does.

[...] the congressman told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution Friday that his words had been misconstrued and that he was not defending Akin or Indiana Senate [...]

Aquagirl

January 11th, 2013
11:36 am

That is NOT what Akin meant by the “legitimate rape” comment, you need to read the whole thing.

Frankly I don’t think Akin himself knew what he meant, he was just vomiting out half-digested junk from Conservative LaLa Land.

Big Hat

January 11th, 2013
11:41 am

If a woman is raped with an assault rifle with a muzzle-flash suppressor, is it legitimate?

molonlabe

January 11th, 2013
11:44 am

This comes from a Rep. that has an A+ rating from the NRA. I truly hope that in two years that district 11 will vote this bum out. And thanks for telling me, a law abiding citizen, how many rounds I can shoot at a paper target.

J Throckmorton Malcontent

January 11th, 2013
11:49 am

The Rapepublican position on babies always confuses me.
Fetuses = best thing EVAR. All should be carried to term, especially dead ones, rapey ones, incestuous ones, and three headed ones. Miscarriages should be investigated and doctors shot in church (don’t miss!).
Rape Babies = special gift from Jesus. Having one proves it wasn’t really rape.
Poor folks’ babies = intolerable welfare burden, should starve.
Anchor babies = worst thing EVAR. The Constitution should have a “no Hispanics allowed” clause.
Baby President Barack Obama = born in Kenya, socialist Muslim usurper.
Educating babies = YEAH RIGHT

Nancy

January 11th, 2013
11:52 am

Georgia needs to start revoking medical licenses. Broun and Gingrey must have been last in their classes and barely passed the boards. I would not want either of them near me if I was bleeding to death!

RGB

January 11th, 2013
11:53 am

You secularists should be (figuratively, of course) in heaven since abortions are essentially unfettered in this country. Oh, I know, you still can’t abort a child who was recently delivered (as the president has supported) but we know you won’t give up. (Question: doesn’t the Free Contraceptive Party ever use the OCs for which they advocate? Shouldn’t the number of abortions be declining dramatically?)

55 million aborted babies since R v. W: Another liberal accomplishment.

Next: “And there are guns to ban before I sleep.”

Repro

January 11th, 2013
11:57 am

Few years ago, I made the mistake of voting for this clown Gingrey thinking he was an intelligent, informed guy, being a doctor and all. What a mistake! Never again.

Section 236

January 11th, 2013
11:58 am

There’s no such thing as a “mag clip”. It’s either a magazine or a clip; there are no hybrids and the two are distinctly different.

If you’re going to report with an aura of authority, Galloway, at least learn the difference.

Question

January 11th, 2013
11:59 am

All the people who calls themselves “ProLife”, there are 42 million orphans and 21,000 kids die everyday because they don’t have the meds, cleans water and food. How many have you adopted? Most of them have not done that. So please don’t call yourself “Prolife” you are all just “Pro Voice” just talk and no action..

DollarDawg

January 11th, 2013
11:59 am

The bigger problem is that there exists a need for serious, logical discussions of issues like this but idealogues on both sides will do their best to frame the discussion in such a way to suppprt their own opinion, regardless of any consquences.

Rape and abortion are serious issues and require honest discussion without all the shouting and partisan rancor. Gun legislation-same thing. Mental health issues-Yep, same thing again. Its a shame that we and our politicians refuse to have a meaningful, thoughtful dialogue about these without politicizing every point and villifying anyone who dares to disagree with us.

[...] expand on the comments by TPM Friday, Gingrey’s office pointed to a statement sent to to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. In it, Gingrey claims the quotes are being unfairly used by his political [...]

Wild Eyes

January 11th, 2013
12:06 pm

There is no in between. You were either raped or not!!!

Don't Tread

January 11th, 2013
12:06 pm

“Shall not be infringed” has nothing to do with how many rounds you can shoot in a paper target and at what rate. “Shall not be infringed” means exactly that.

Oh, and by the way, there’s no such thing as a “legitimate rape”. It’s either rape (a crime), a false accusation (also a crime), or consensual (not a crime).

Big Hat

January 11th, 2013
12:09 pm

I heard a rumor that Obama has a black baby, just like McCain. Why isn’t Fox News all over this?

Bhorsoft

January 11th, 2013
12:11 pm

Just further confirmation that Phil Gingrey is a legitimate idiot. It doesn’t speak well for the people who voted for him either.

Tom

January 11th, 2013
12:24 pm

A little wine can make what would have been a ‘legitimate rape’ look consensual, too.

kreedham

January 11th, 2013
12:26 pm

Gingrey, Price, Broun and Westmoreland continue to fight it out to see who can show us how stupid they can be. Price and Westmoreland have been quiet lately so they can fight it out for 3rd and 4th dumbest. Gingrey moves up to #2 this week but they’ll all have a hard time knocking Paul Broun off the #1 spot. The people in his district should be embarassed.

Bob Loblaw

January 11th, 2013
12:27 pm

Wow. Phil. Just don’t talk about it. Seriously, dude. Leave it alone.

Bob Loblaw’s prediction for the tea party is coming true!!! Down 200% in less than 2 years! Soon, elected officials will realize that there’s nobody ready to charge when Debbie Dooley yells it out!!

beanster

January 11th, 2013
12:33 pm

Well said, DollarDawg. You certainly will not find that dialogue here.

WOW

January 11th, 2013
12:34 pm

@ Mary:

You are exactly right.

And should be added that they advocate for legislation like the “Personhood amendment’, which makes it harder for infertile couples to explore other options of getting pregnant when the ‘relaxing’ doesn’t work.

MANGLER

January 11th, 2013
12:35 pm

People who do not have vaginas need to stop legislating issues that pertain to vaginas. It would be nice if they stopped publicly speaking about it too.

liberalefty

January 11th, 2013
12:36 pm

the democratic party’s best friend is any republican that opens their ignorant mouths…they triple down on their ignorance and stupidity

(the other) Rodney

January 11th, 2013
12:36 pm

J Throckmorton Malcontent @11:49am – you made me laugh on a gloomy Friday. Thank you. :)

And to further the sanity, I add my 2c worth – rape is rape until proven otherwise. It’s best to err on the side of caution when someone claims rape than to immediately think “well, she was asking for it” or “she might have made it up”. It’ll come out in the wash, as they say, if rape was unjustly cried.

liberalefty

January 11th, 2013
12:36 pm

the democratic party’s best friend is any republican that opens their ignorant mouths…they triple down on their ignorance and stupidity

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 11th, 2013
12:42 pm

Gingrey got cozy with the lib and now he get’s to pay the piper. When will they ever learn? Knowing that they are nothing but smiling little crocodiles, I am always confrontational with these bleeding hearts. Why does anyone want to be buddies with this trash?

Jerome Horwitz

January 11th, 2013
12:44 pm

Gingrey may have become a doctor in 1975, but, he’s been a moron a lot longer. This is from Dr. Howard!

Say what

January 11th, 2013
12:45 pm

liberalefty same goes for you. The more you talk the dumber you appear.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 11th, 2013
12:49 pm

“It’s becoming more and more important, in terms of what studies we do, to focus our efforts on the physiological effects of stress and how they may play a role in conception,” says Margareta D. Pisarska, MD, co-director of Center for Reproductive Medicine at Cedars Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles and editor-in-chief of the American Society for Reproductive Medicine News.

And there is no doubt about it, there is no better contraception than squeezing an aspirin between your knees.

morons.

Ol' Timer

January 11th, 2013
12:51 pm

Stop! Stop! Gingrey should have stopped when he made a fairly rational statement about gun mags, but no, he had to continue until finally, like all too many right-wingnuts — he had to end up making an idiotic statment.

It must be in the feakin’ Tea Party DNA. They just have to keep running their mouths until they end up sounding like an idiot!

Normagene

January 11th, 2013
12:53 pm

Every time these idiot politicians open their mouths it lends credence to the rest of the countries perception of Georgians as dumb redneck neanderthals. In the case of Gingrey, they are probably right.

DJ Sniper

January 11th, 2013
12:53 pm

RGB, do you have something to back up that claim of 55 million abortions since Roe v. Wade?

Bob Loblaw

January 11th, 2013
12:53 pm

Not to mention the fact that just because you are “pregnant” doesn’t always mean there’s a developing being inside. Or the fact that if an embryo is a “person,” that it is stagnant without…a woman! Yes, you need a uterus or that “person” isn’t going anywhere!

clanmack

January 11th, 2013
12:54 pm

@ Mary 10:56- Gingrey said he’s been an OB-GYN since 1975. He didn’t say he was a good OB-GYN, or a great one, or even a mediocre one. Chalk one up for you!
@J. Throckmorton Malcontent 11:49 LMAO except it is true and you must have gotten that from the real Republican Party platform.

Question: Why is it that the only loud voices are the paranoid ones insisting on “saving” the Second Amendment. Is no one interested in the 14th or any of the others? Let’s see-you can be stopped while driving, your car searched, arrested on a trumped up charge, stripped & searched (including a cavity search) and jailed until you get a hearing, where the charges can be upheld, go to trial and be declared not guilty or have the charges dismissed. You miss work or lose your job and suffer the consequences of that. Who stands up for your rights? NO ONE!!. Why are there no people trumpeting this as a gross violation of rights while IT IS GOING ON EVERYDAY, but the gun rights people are screaming about the possibility of a limit on high capacity magazines or a semi-automatic rifle or the closing of a loophole at gun shows which allow activity that is illegal at a bricks and mortar business? That is insanity
RE: Mental Illness-it is imprecisely defined, and very subjective diagnostically. Does this mean that if some goes on antidepressants after a death in the family, or a child is diagnosed with dyslexia or other learning problems or a trauma survivor who has PTSD are mentally ill? we used to have a community mental health system in this country partially funded and supported by the Federal Govenment. Alas, that was give over to the States (and we see what happened to that system). Try working the mental health approach out in Washington DC. Fat chance.
The gun issue cannot be solved by taking guns away. It is like illegal immigration reform by building a 25 foot high wall across the entire border-way too expensive and impossible to prevent 100% “illegal aliens” entries. It will take a comprehensive, wide ranging approach with common sense limitations, compassionate service systems and far ranging thinking. We hired these people through our votes. They have done nothing to deserve our confidence or trust. All of us need to call, write and/or visit our elected officials and tell them how unhappy we are with their ineffective, stupid and ultimately ignorant efforts. Some of our elected officials are individually brilliant people-collectively they function at a moronic level.

honested

January 11th, 2013
12:57 pm

Quik, somebody put a microphone in front of price or broun.
How dare gingrey make the most asinine statement of the new year among Ga. republicans.

And just for discussion, if the repugs would stop bringing up abortion, nobody would be talking about it!!

Buford T. Justice

January 11th, 2013
1:03 pm

Wasn’t it liberal “The View” member Whoopi Goldberg, who in defense of Roman Polanski for having illegal sex with a 13 year old girl stated, “I know it wasn’t rape-rape. I think it was something else, but I don’t believe it was rape-rape.” Didn’t hear a whole lot about that at the time. A little bit of fair and equal treatment would sure be nice, rather than deciding whose an idiot, or not, based only on their political affiliation. Plenty of idiots on both sides boys and girls. Those of you who show your ignorance in this regard in your postings are merely underscoring your bias and lack of objectivity. The unfortunate part is the press generally gives liberals a pass while they skewer conservatives, thus encouraging the sheep follow them. Same thing goes for Rush by the way.

honested

January 11th, 2013
1:06 pm

b.t.justice,

Do you accept the ‘rule of law’?

ML

January 11th, 2013
1:07 pm

What is this? I don’t even …Wharrgarbl

Gabhpr

January 11th, 2013
1:08 pm

So many rape supporting or rape apologist on this article
PEOPLE DO NOT CRY RAPE PERIOD.
Out of 10,000 reports only one to ten will be false.
I find it likely that the apple doesn’t fall far from this tree and that some people here have commited a crime

Gabhpr

January 11th, 2013
1:10 pm

And on a different note. A requirement to be republican is to be one of the following.
Misogynist, racist, classist, ageist..

[...] so to speak. And yet the media took that and tore it apart.”In a statement Friday to the Atlanta Journal Constitution, Gingrey said he does not defend or stand by either Akin’s or Mourdock’s [...]

beanster

January 11th, 2013
1:16 pm

While I have never lived in his district, Phil Gingrey has always come across to me as a common sense Republican who well represents his constituents in Cobb and Cherokee. You may not share the same views as him or those who live north of I-285, but to lump him into the same category as Paul Broun or Todd Akin is unjustified, unfair, and uncalled for. I applaud him for having the guts to speak out in regards to gun control with a stance that is likely in opposition to the vast majority of those he represents.

KenFromCalifornia

January 11th, 2013
1:17 pm

2012 wasn’t a big enough defeat….republicans are just bent to keep on losing even more voters between now and 2016.

Declan Georgia

January 11th, 2013
1:21 pm

Any Republican Congressman in the great state of Georgia that considers gun control on any gun is a hypocrite and positioning for a cabinet position when Barrack declares himself dictator. Dr Gingrey, we don’t have modern, high-efficiency weapons to protect us from you; we have modern effective, weapons to defend Georgian’s from your Federal thugs. The only Georgian that wants the gun show loophole closed are those that are more salesman than Patriot.

honested

January 11th, 2013
1:22 pm

beanster,

You make a point.
Many, many, very many people do not agree with the distorted narrow focus gingrey represents.
Therefore I encourage him to continue to speak out along with his caucus cohorts.
The Voters of Georgia have two years to stiffen their spines and send the whole caucus back to whatever useful employ they may actually be qualified.

Glenn

January 11th, 2013
1:26 pm

Every Republican (and Democrat for that matter) who is withholding funding for the hurricane victims in the Northeast should IMMEDIATELY be recalled in EVERY State. They seem to forget this same type of natural event may happen to THEIR citizens (as it already has in many Southern States, and THEIR voters benefited IMMEDIATELY). What goes around comes around. In fact, the NE contributes more money to the fund than any other region in the Country, yet THEIR funds are being withheld by the Republicans. RECALL EVERY ONE OF THE NOW NATIONALLY.

The same thing goes for the ban on assault weapons. Over 90% of Americans WANT a ban on assault weapons, yet Republican, who are getting FUNDED by the NRA, are BLOCKING ALL attempts to get legislation introduced. 90% of ALL AMERICANS.

They have already held America hostage with the fiscal cliff, and are doing so yet again, which risks ALL WORKING CLASS AMERICANS, retirement accounts because the stock markets will TANK AGAIN if the Republicans pull their antics again THEY won’t be effected, nor will THEIR RICH SUPPORTERS.

RECALL ALL REPUBLICANS NATIONALLY. LET’S START HERE IN GEORGIA. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

Marlboro Man

January 11th, 2013
1:28 pm

Gingrey is a shill.

TerryK

January 11th, 2013
1:31 pm

There are magaInes and there are clips. But there is nothing called a mag clip!

How can you pretend to be a journalist when you don’t even take three minutes of time to look at amsictionary?

[...] a statement Friday to the Atlanta Journal Constitution, Gingrey said he does not defend or stand by either Akin’s or Mourdock’s [...]

DJ Sniper

January 11th, 2013
1:31 pm

Wait, did I just read that the new VP for GRTL is trying to get the personhood amendment started back up? Do these people not learn from their past mistakes. When Mississippi rejects something like this, you know you’re barking up the wrong tree.

liberalefty

January 11th, 2013
1:32 pm

declan

isnt gingery a federal thug too… hes a federal guvment employee

beanster

January 11th, 2013
1:35 pm

honested – You do realize you live in the state of Georgia, don’t you? (Perhaps you don’t?) If you find it so intolerable, why don’t you move to Massachusetts or California?

My guess is you like the weather here, no?

And according to many of the credential-less posters on this blog, Dr. Gingrey isn’t qualified to be a OBGYN either. So I am not sure the latter portion of your post is even remotely plausible.

Reebok

January 11th, 2013
1:44 pm

What is it with Republicans? DO NOT TALK ABOUT RAPE EVER EVER EVER EVER. IT NEVER TURNS OUT WELL FOR YOU. To quote that great American philosopher Bob Newhart, “STOP IT!”

liberalefty

January 11th, 2013
1:47 pm

the ignorant republicans is still being trumped by the community organizer…lol..what fool will they trot out next

Cherokee

January 11th, 2013
1:47 pm

Is it a requirement that you be an idiot to practice medicine in the state of Georgia? Broun, Gingrey, and Price sure make it seem so….

Elisha

January 11th, 2013
1:48 pm

It would be nice if all you so called gun experts could at least learn the difference between a magazine and a clip – you sound like idiots.

liberalefty

January 11th, 2013
1:48 pm

cherokee

its called racism…plain n simple..

honested

January 11th, 2013
1:50 pm

Cherokee,
It makes me glad my physician is a proud, liberal Democrat.

I don’t have to be fearful or confirm his credentials!

john hayes

January 11th, 2013
1:50 pm

If there was any doubt as to why our country and state are in such horrible condition, you need look nor read any further than Gingrey and Ralston’s quotes. It simply proves any idiot can become a doctor or lawyer and any trash can become an elected politician. They make me want to vomit.

Cherokee

January 11th, 2013
1:51 pm

Yeah, and it just drives them CRAZY, doesn’t it, that the Kenyan Socialist Fascist won re-election, doesn’t it.

Jaime

January 11th, 2013
1:58 pm

If I want to target practice, I should be able to practice with whatever I wish. At some point would someone please separate me from a criminal. Criminals obtain their weapons illegally and will continue to do so no matter how many weapons you wrench from my legally obtained collection. Punish the law abiding citizens and let the criminals continue to run everything, oh, and since my rights were stomped on, can’t protect myself from the criminals and their guns. Mr. Gingery does not represent this Georgian.

kirbang

January 11th, 2013
1:58 pm

Don’t tread: And you are not a well regulated militia.

earl

January 11th, 2013
2:00 pm

how could anyone vote for this bozo going forward?

SB in ATL

January 11th, 2013
2:00 pm

@RGB;
You are a total neaderthal and really disgusting. Just because we don’t want old men telling women what to do doesn’t mean we are ‘pro-abortion’. You are really sickening and a waste of time trying to explain something to you.

clem

January 11th, 2013
2:06 pm

gingrey, once a goatroper….always

Declan Georgia

January 11th, 2013
2:09 pm

Phil & I love Democrats; if it weren’t for them, statistics would have to be factual. I’m 98.2345678% sure that if she had a 9mm w/ 30rd clip -there wouldn’t have been any rape, and if she’d been limited to a 10rd clip, it’s 99.8765654% that she’d gotten away, so let’s make a law….

SBinF

January 11th, 2013
2:09 pm

In my wildest fantasy I couldn’t have dreamed that the GOP would still be talking about rape after the results of the last election. Please, keep it up! It can only hasten the GOP’s descent into irrelevancy.

SBinF

January 11th, 2013
2:13 pm

Wasn’t it liberal “The View” member Whoopi Goldberg, who in defense of Roman Polanski for having illegal sex with a 13 year old girl stated, “I know it wasn’t rape-rape….”
—————————————–

Please tell me, to which public office has Whoopi been elected?

Oh, right…

Synonymous

January 11th, 2013
2:16 pm

Dear Congressman Gingrey:

I am a constituent. I voted for you. I will not be voting for you in 2014.

Please retire. You are beyond your useful shelf life, as your recent comments are making clear.

Lib in Cobb

January 11th, 2013
2:18 pm

The Republicans should really shut up about Akin and Murdock. The Democrats should not let anyone forget about Akin and Murdock.

kris

January 11th, 2013
2:18 pm

J Throckmorton Malcontent “Calling Dr.Howard, Dr.Fine, Dr.Howard, come to the Georgia Delegation Clue Phone, please…”"”

STAT “That means PDQ”

GaBlue

January 11th, 2013
2:18 pm

“Just relax. Drink a glass of wine. And don’t be so tense and uptight…”

They teach this line in predator school.

SBinF

January 11th, 2013
2:19 pm

“And according to many of the credential-less posters on this blog, Dr. Gingrey isn’t qualified to be a OBGYN either.”

I’m certainly no M.D., but I would be curious to know if other doctors also prescribe a glass of wine to treat infertility. Can anyone confirm that?

Jaynie

January 11th, 2013
2:20 pm

I simply cannot believe Phil Gingrey ever passed medical school and was allowed to practice medicine. I don’t know how anybody with a functioning brain cell can defend Akin’s “legitmate rape” comment in any way shape, form nor fashion. There are occasional false rape claims, but they are few and far between. Rape is one of the most UNDER reported crimes in the United States and the world. To cite one false rape claim from the Duke lacrosse case to make a point about false rape claims out the thousands of reported and unreported rape cases across the United States is lunacy.

yuzeyurbrane

January 11th, 2013
2:20 pm

Interesting how politicians are pro-life only before a child is born.

KenFromCalifornia

January 11th, 2013
2:27 pm

what medical school teaches such things?

if you can’t find any that do, then it appears someone is using his phd credentials to bear false witness.

Protect all children!

January 11th, 2013
2:46 pm

Wow, an insane person violates numerous laws that all already on the books to kill kids at a schoolhouse in Connecticut and some folks in America want to take away the rights of Americans enshrined in the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution. But just last year over 300,000 babies were aborted in Planned Parenthood Clinics and the silence all across America is deafening. How sad. Who will be the voice for those aborted babies who will never expereince LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?

Buckhead Boy

January 11th, 2013
2:50 pm

To those who suggest that Republicans “stop it”, consider that if the GOPers couldn’t wax foolishly on guns, ovaries and prayer, they’d be left to spouting their economic absurdities and science denials “ad nauseam”; and that would be really depressing.

the cat

January 11th, 2013
3:06 pm

Protect all children!

January 11th, 2013
2:46 pm
Wow, an insane person violates numerous laws that all already on the books to kill kids at a schoolhouse in Connecticut and some folks in America want to take away the rights of Americans enshrined in the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution. But just last year over 300,000 babies were aborted in Planned Parenthood Clinics and the silence all across America is deafening. How sad. Who will be the voice for those aborted babies who will never expereince LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?

You are exactly correct!!! Aborted babies will never experience life because they have not been born yet. Good grief.

DJ Sniper

January 11th, 2013
3:09 pm

Murder is illegal. Abortion is legal. Please stop trying to compare the two.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 11th, 2013
3:17 pm

Other research indicates that stress may have an impact on other aspects of fertility beyond ovulation, including problems with fertilization and implantation in the uterus. One study from the University of California San Diego found that the most stressed women undergoing IVF had less success every step of the way (fewer eggs retrieved and fewer eggs successfully implanted) compared to women who were not as tense. Another study from Israeli researchers tested whether helping women de-stress while undergoing IVF could impact the success rate. They found that women who were entertained by a clown after they received the treatment (laughter is a known stress-soother) were more likely to conceive than those who were not.

So if you’re looking to get knocked up, come to this blog and read all the clown liberal comments, they’re a hoot.

Logical Dad

January 11th, 2013
3:19 pm

Please remember that the killer in Newtown, CT was a “law-abiding citizen” who took weapons from his mother, another “law-abiding citizen.” Please, proceed gun defenders.

Tonkysmalls

January 11th, 2013
3:37 pm

I am pro abortion.
All you hate filled woman hating sacks of crap would never take one of these children in. If you were abandoned by a worthless manchild and were going to have to raise a child on your own you would not even think twice about having one. You are like all other republicants. Hypocritical and a hate filled idiot. And for the record. Guns ONLY kill people. A patriot would never own a gun

Declan Georgia

January 11th, 2013
3:41 pm

Don’t be hate-ing Democrats, afterall they’ve come up w/ some awesome stuff; the Lil Angel selection process- 100% accurate & effective control for unwanted babies (up to 9 months to decide!); the Eggfooyoung mandate- give up your guns and they assure us the the Chinese won’t come to claim their lands forfeited for non-payment; and the Democrat Golden rule – when you’re being robbed w/ an illegal gun (howd dat ‘appen?) simply remind him that larceny is hard work, and when you just wait patiently at home, your check is on the way.

Keis

January 11th, 2013
3:44 pm

yuzeyurbrane “”””Interesting how politicians are pro-life only before a child is born.”””

Well said, then when the child is born (sadly into poverty) its out on the streets with no Government help…Yes I will say entitlement…the GOP slime Bags toss the baby out with the bath water…Enough to the GOP STFU pass legislation to make adoption EASY, Quick and less expensive…then you save money…

Stop the attack on omen….2014 will be here soon….Mark your calender natey.

Keis

January 11th, 2013
3:46 pm

Sorry…..

Stop the attack on women….2014 will be here soon….Mark your calender natty.

Vashtai

January 11th, 2013
3:57 pm

Now that Georgia has bullet proof (sorry) gerrymandered Republican districts, what can we do to get rid of these people? Broun’s district includes UGA! The irony is most of these jokers run without opposition. It’s really depressing. John Lewis is my rep, but he will probably retire soon. None of them could win dog catcher in my district.

Me

January 11th, 2013
4:08 pm

Not an AR owner or care to be but I can’t help but cringe when representatives start questioning what legal gun owners need to do or should do. Maybe when more gun control legislation kicks in, they will be sure to tell us exactly how many rounds to send down range. I certainly want to make sure Gingrey feels good about it. I personally believe his 1st Amendment right should be limited to 5 minutes a day since he really doesn’t need more than that.

Starik

January 11th, 2013
4:13 pm

Gingrey, Price, Broun…why do Georgia physicians make such terrible legislators?

curious

January 11th, 2013
4:13 pm

Both Broun and Gringery received their MD from the:

Memphis School of Voodoo Medicine – Correspondence Division.

[...] a statement Friday to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Gingrey reiterated his support for the Second Amendment but didn’t back off what he told the [...]

honested

January 11th, 2013
4:58 pm

curious,

You besmirch practitioners of Voodoo Medicine by lumping broun in amongst them.

Synonymous

January 11th, 2013
5:09 pm

@Logical Dad:

When he stole the weapons, he was no longer a “law-abiding citizen.” LOGIC.

Synonymous

January 11th, 2013
5:09 pm

@Logical Dad:

When he stole the weapons, he was no longer a “law-abiding citizen.” LOGIC.

Pete

January 11th, 2013
5:13 pm

Braun, Gingrey, Price, the dumbest physicians in the country, Thank God they are not mine nor anybody I care about.

Abe Froman

January 11th, 2013
5:16 pm

Good lord. When will GOPers ever figure out to shut the h#ll up? There is nothing you can add to Mr. Akin or Mr. Mourdock’s dialogue that makes it make any sense at all. As far as limiting gun magazines, what difference will that make? I’ve seen videos of guys changing out magazines in 1.5 seconds. How is that going to make a difference in a place like Newtown, CT? As much as I hate to repeat this somewhat stupid, yet true statement “The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to have a good guy with a gun”.

Any legistation on guns is ‘feel good’ stuff anyway. Columbine happened during the last ‘assault rifle’ ban. Newtown happened when a mother who obviously knew of her son’s lack of mental capacity, left her legally owned guns where he could get them. Va Tech shooter was mentally unstable and his professors knew it. Same with Aurora, CO shooter.

BTW – there is no “Gun Show Loophole”. What they want is to criminalize the sale of firearms between two private individuals. And they want to have registration of all firearms and the people who own them. Then they will come a’knockin’.

Abe Froman

January 11th, 2013
5:22 pm

Oh, and when you bring abortion into the debate on guns, it makes your argument less effective. Without the second admendment protected and in place, governments could start aborting more than fetuses to achieve their goals. Are you going to expect this government, which can’t even produce or live by a budget, be your protector? Government isn’t interested in the individual, so expect to take care of yourself.

Cherokee

January 11th, 2013
5:24 pm

You gotta register your car, Abe – have they come a knockin’ for that?

And your car isn’t even protected by the Bill of Rights….

Ghenghis Khan

January 11th, 2013
5:40 pm

If women can’t get pregnant from rape then why doe 8% of the world population contain my DNA? LOL @ Phil Gingrey.

CD

January 11th, 2013
5:45 pm

The age of consent in Georgia is 16. Anyone under 16 cannot legally consent to intercourse, so under the law it would be considered rape anyway.

pam

January 11th, 2013
5:48 pm

I have never voted for Gringrey. And it is so sad that anybody did. Can not believe this man represents my district. What an embarressment.

DJ sniper is an idiot

January 11th, 2013
5:53 pm

I’ve heard this same ol extremist and whack-o labeling from the moment the Tea Party made it’s first headline. The reality is bed wetting libarards and demorats are scared to death that America make wake up and make the leftist stop all the public give away programs on the mass level that is has become. From the exploding number of people on SS disability to welfare and obamas favorite, SNAP scam. That is what the real Tea Party stands for. Why don’t you join in and make things better instead of spouting all the BS extreme crap?
BAM

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 11th, 2013
6:00 pm

Uh-oh, I smell a rift in the dummycrat party!

Montana’s Jon Tester and Max Baucus, Alaska’s Mark Begich, Arkansas’s Mark Pryor, South Dakota’s Tim Johnson, Louisiana’s Mary Landrieu—all are quiet on that red-state Democratic front. North Dakota’s brand new senator, Heidi Heitkamp, declared proposals mulled by the Biden task force as “way in the extreme” and “not gonna pass.” Unlike Mr. Obama, all of these members still face elections.

It’s the moderates against the moonbats! Civil war!

n

January 11th, 2013
6:01 pm

@Malcontent
The funniest blog entry I have ever read anywhere!
And true.

[...] suggesting that a pregnancy could never or almost never result from rape. In a Friday statement, Gingrey said: “I do not defend, nor do I stand by, the remarks made by Rep. Akin and Mr. Mourdock. In my [...]

nathan's political arsonist

January 11th, 2013
6:14 pm

Wow, his fate, as already demonstrated by his good friend todd, is now sealed. I knew he was a sociopathic xenophobic homophobic racist bigoted ignorant idiot, but not just stomp down stupid.

Protect all children!

January 11th, 2013
6:15 pm

@ the cat and Dj Sniper – if the child inside the mother is not a baby, then what is it? It should not surprise us that human life is not valued in this culture to the point that kids are walking into schools and shooting children when we have so devalued the lives of the most innocent and vulnerable among us – unborn children.

123

January 11th, 2013
6:16 pm

Aesop by his own words also predicted a Republican victory last month……..

If his smell is just a good…………… just move along as usual

Shine

January 11th, 2013
6:34 pm

Gingrey, a nut on everything it appears. Akin is aweirdo and a gun clip ban is as stupid and kooky as fighting raising revenue on the wealthy to help with the deficit.

The dems are out to prove the NRA was dead right about dems being gun grabbers. Its all political payback just like some states going after unions again right after this election and some states picking right back up with their anti abortion for any reason kookyness.

Union yes
Gun yes
Abortion settled with partial birth abortion ban
Tax the top to pay down the debt. That is where all the money has trickled to.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 11th, 2013
6:42 pm

The 26 states that Obama carried in November tended overwhelmingly to have lower credit ratings than the 24 where he lost.

All the irresponsible went with obozo, go figure.

123

January 11th, 2013
6:46 pm

Aesop

You failed to mention 8 of the wealthiest counties in the US

You were probably going to post that next, but figured I would save your punk a$$ the time.

Read where you and and other whack winger were talking crap the other night and your daddy Kyle had to slap you again. He didn’t call you out by name this time, but it was obvious who he was referring to.

You know what I am talking about. It was is closing comments before he shut his whack wing asylum down.

123

January 11th, 2013
6:48 pm

bajeha

January 11th, 2013
6:55 pm

A quote from Gingrey’s remarks: “a scared-to-death 15-year-old that becomes impregnated by her boyfriend and then has to tell her parents, that’s pretty tough and might on some occasion say, ‘Hey, I was raped.’

She WAS raped because at age 15, that girl is a child and therefore is under the age of consent.

Dr. Gingrey, please do yourself and my fellow constituents a favor by not running for er-election in 2014. You have become an embarrassment.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 11th, 2013
7:20 pm

satan – Stalk much?

Kujohn

January 11th, 2013
7:35 pm

Hey aesops fables.
Who won the poorest states most uneducated states
States with most federal assistance
Aka (most of the south)
Why don’t you check on that an let us know
Give u a hint
It was not president Obama

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 11th, 2013
7:39 pm

I’ve already “checked on it.” You libs did. Did you happen to see your “presidents” kampaign? What didn’t he promise you losers?

Kujohn

January 11th, 2013
7:43 pm

Omg. This guy is an idiot

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 11th, 2013
7:45 pm

You have a god? Hahahahahahaha, I can just imagine.

hiram

January 11th, 2013
7:57 pm

@kujohn
He is here for attention, positive or negative. He does’nt have the ability to engage people in intelligent discourse – his only alternative is to provoke them with neanderthal behavior. It only works if you respond – ignore him and he will take his ball and go home.

Kujohn

January 11th, 2013
8:04 pm

Thx Hiram
Just looked over his earlier comments
Not playing with a full deck

123

January 11th, 2013
8:05 pm

Aesop

Lie and cry much on the blogs? Yes

Get slapped by blog host much? Yes

Suspended and banned much? Yes

Damn so, you are dumb

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 11th, 2013
8:05 pm

Let’s see here, I post the facts and lil hiram blubbers about it with his best intellectual abilities – nothing.

123

January 11th, 2013
8:08 pm

Facts such as the credit rating bs that is really a mixed bag…

Like those facts?

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 11th, 2013
8:11 pm

It cracks me up, these liberals make all this noise about executive orders and gun bans and background checks for ammunition, obviously using the tragedy of Sandy Hook as a “crisis,” and the American people stomped them down like so many co-ckroaches. And now they beg for just the tiniest little things, like checking to make sure someone is alive before they carry their new assault rifle out of the store.

This is what the definition of “punk” is.

Pizzaman

January 11th, 2013
8:12 pm

Just another redneck republican idiot!

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 11th, 2013
8:12 pm

No satan, Illinois and Kalifornia are on sound financial footing, uh huh, anybody knows that.

clown

This is Mrs. Norman Maine

January 11th, 2013
8:18 pm

Thank you Mr. Gingrey for hastening Georgia’s race to the bottom. It was painful watching our slow descent, I prefer to get it over with quickly.

123

January 11th, 2013
8:18 pm

Hiram

Ask assop about saying he would have Bookman fired or run off?

He talks tall, but walks small

123

January 11th, 2013
8:19 pm

Guess those red states at the bottom were by accident

It is a mixed bag, punk

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 11th, 2013
8:28 pm

satan – Do you feel like you are surrounded? Are the black helicopters hovering around again? Do you have anymore paranoid lunatic theories you’d like to share with us?

123

January 11th, 2013
8:34 pm

That is you and your Obama conspiracies

Bookman said hello

Hahahahah

123

January 11th, 2013
8:37 pm

Aesop

Cries like a baby daily about obama, liberals etc as he hides under his bed and he say other have conspiracies

Hahahhaha

Guess that’s why is unadult behavior gets him banned and slapped down by AJC blog hosts

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 11th, 2013
8:43 pm

satan – You called me asshop, punk ass and have pretty much freaked out about my ability to post to the AJC blogs, and you have the nerve to call my behavior “unadult?”

123

January 11th, 2013
8:45 pm

Assep don’t get banned this weekend or slapped down by Kyle

Later boy

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 11th, 2013
8:49 pm

As we can all see, satan has declared itself the official historian of the AJC blogs, mainly because it has nothing better to do.

123

January 11th, 2013
8:52 pm

And your ability to post or not post at other AJC blogs has been a direct result of your own actions and words

You talk big on personal responsibility, yet don’t follow your own advice

Man up, son….

Go get some friends or what don’t know how to get …a date

Friends first, a date might be a stretch for you…

Toodles

[...] suggesting that a pregnancy could never or roughly never outcome from rape. In a Friday statement, Gingrey said: “I do not defend, nor do we mount by, a remarks done by Rep. Akin and Mr. Mourdock. In my try to [...]

hiram

January 11th, 2013
8:56 pm

Dyed hair, mustache, eyebrows, and store bought teeth. Nothing like a specious politician and Honey Boo Boo to represent ones’ state to the world.

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/63049/april-26-2006/better-know-a-district—georgia-s-11th—phil-gingrey

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 11th, 2013
9:03 pm

Chapter one – eye right down everything the Cons say on duh bookman blog. I cat a log it. I save it for won deh when eye kan weally show dem. I am histerical, I mean histroical, in my own mind.

Eye rok.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 11th, 2013
9:45 pm

Mr. Rockefeller’s retirement could create an opening for Republicans in a state that is increasingly tilting from its once-solid Democratic roots. President Obama won less than 36 percent of the vote there in November after Republicans waged a relentless campaign against what they called the president’s “war on coal.” Republicans persuaded their preferred challenger, seven-term Representative Shelley Moore Capito, to enter the Senate campaign in November after she had declined several previous Senate bids.

buh bye

[...] barn, so to speak. And yet the media took that and tore it apart.”In a statement Friday to the Atlanta Journal Constitution, Gingrey said he does not defend or stand by either Akin’s or Mourdock’s remarks.“At [...]

clem

January 11th, 2013
10:51 pm

assop makes td look smart

Rabbit

January 12th, 2013
12:00 am

Congressman says:” …a scared-to-death 15-year-old that becomes impregnated by her boyfriend and then has to tell her parents…”
GA Law says:”A person commits the offense of statutory rape when he or she engages in sexual intercourse with any person under the age of 16 years and not his or her spouse…”

So, …what is the Congressman trying to say?

Buymadeinusjobs

January 12th, 2013
12:14 am

Keep the tea prty guys talking, we want to get their opinions. Democrats : register every person you can , start running for office, now for local, state and federal level in 2014. everybody vote every election. politicians get good pay/benefits and good jobs when they retire.

S

January 12th, 2013
3:23 am

Dr.’s like Gingrey and Broun are the reason Women go to Women Dr.s. How are Earth did those two get a license to practice medicine. Ewwwww!

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

January 12th, 2013
9:02 am

Incontrovertible proof that Sandy Hook is a staged predicate, like Batman and the Sikh Temple, to disarm us.

Guess Vietnam draft-dodging papist Gingrey’s silence on the missile strike at the Pentagon when Bush, Cheney, and Mossad did 9/11 is just par for the course.

The Fed Scam expires this year and the Roman Anti-Christ papist/Talmudic Rockefeller/Rothschild Fifth Column is desperate to subdue the People, or they are such psychopaths they’re letting us know they’re “gaslighting” us.

Death for Treason

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LNMhrlxPvMs

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 12th, 2013
10:28 am

I don’t know about the Earth but I’m pretty sure the top of clem’s head is flat.

clem

January 12th, 2013
11:26 am

sorta like your personality

Joseph

January 12th, 2013
12:32 pm

Keep peddling these idiots out there and we’ll just keep sliding into obscurity as “the party that used to matter”.