Your daily jolt: Nathan Deal wants to stay out of gun debate

Gov. Nathan Deal’s sit-down with Lori Geary of Channel 2 Action News on Wednesday was primarily intended to spread the news that the state’s economic woes had eased enough to boost HOPE scholarships by 3 percent and add 10 days to the pre-kindergarten schedule.

But Geary was also able to sneak in a question about gun legislation – which has become a hot topic for governor’s elsewhere. Said Deal:

”It is a time that is fraught with emotions on both sides of the issue. I’ve heard of proposed legislation, but none of that is part of my agenda.”

Don’t consider that declaration of neutrality to be a green light for the handful of bills already filed in the House, in anticipation of the new session of the Legislature that begins Monday. Several have been filed by incoming freshman Charles Gregory, R-Kennesaw, who has proposed removing state bans on (permitted) concealed weapons in churches and on public university campuses.

The governor’s statement could very well be a declaration that he wants no part of that debate. Not now.

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Vice President Joe Biden’s announcement that the Obama administration might tackle some aspects of gun violence through executive action generated a wall of outrage among Second Amendment enthusiasts on Wednesday. But my blogging colleague Jamie Dupree of WSB Radio fame notes a pair of precedents:

The first time it happened was in 1989, after a mass school shooting Stockton, California, as President George H.W. Bush used a 1968 gun control law to limit the importation of foreign firearms – his executive order banned the shipment of certain assault weapons, unless they were used for sporting purposes.

In 1998, President Bill Clinton expanded on the Bush Administration move by banning the import of almost five dozen different assault weapons that had been modified to get through that “sporting purposes” exemption.

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The aforementioned Charles Gregory, R-Kennesaw, who will be sworn in as a member of the House, is quickly earning a reputation as a conservative of a different sort – i.e., a full-fledged apostle of Rand Paul.

In town meetings and other such gatherings, Gregory has already theorized that Georgia should issue its own currency. We suggest Zell Miller’s face on the $20 bill.

On Wednesday, Gregory a) decried the practice of House Republican leaders protecting incumbents with campaign cash; and b) proposed a conservative loophole for those struggling with the concept of gay marriage. From Jon Gillooly and the Marietta Daily Journal:

“You know, marriage is a religious institution,” Gregory said. “It belongs in the church, and it should be between you and your God. It’s not the domain of the government. I don’t think anybody should be asking government permission to get married. So it takes gay marriage out of the whole equation. It’s not an issue anymore if it’s not a government thing. It’s a church thing. If your church is in favor of gay marriage, they would marry you. If your church is not, they won’t marry gay people. It would be up to the church. It has nothing to do with the government in my mind. It should not have to do with the government.”

This isn’t a brand-new thought. I heard state Rep. Bobby Franklin say almost exactly the same thing shortly before his death.

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Check out this curious quote from U.S. Saxby Chambliss that my AJC colleague Kyle Wingfield tacked onto the end of his column today:

[D]oes the bitterness in Washington ever make him think twice about running again?

“This is an eight-year decision for me. It’s two years [campaigning] plus six years” in office, he said. “And if I thought the next eight years were going to be filled with contentious debates and the wrong way to govern that we have just gone through in the last two months, it would have a significant impact on my decision. But yeah, right now my plans are to run.”

“Right now”?

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Potential strategies assigned to President Barack Obama, who wants to avoid a showdown with Republicans over an increase in the federal debt ceiling, include a trillion-dollar platinum coin and the 14th Amendment, which states that “the validity of the public debt of the United States … shall not be questioned.”

U.S. Sen. Johnny Isakson doesn’t think either one is an option. From the Athens Banner-Herald:

“I don’t believe the Constitution allows either of those things to happen,” Isakson said during a legislative preview with the Athens and Classic City Rotary Clubs and the Athens Area Chamber of Commerce. “And I don’t think we ever want to get into a situation where one individual in this country unilaterally has the ability to determine how much we’re going to owe.

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A Fulton County judge has rejected Secretary of State Brian Kemp’s attempt to settle a border dispute between Bibb and Monroe counties. From Mike Stucka and the Macon Telegraph:

Superior Court Judge Kelly Lee ordered Kemp to use the controversial 2009 survey by Terry Scarborough, which Kemp has rejected multiple times. Monroe County first appealed Kemp’s rejection to Kemp himself, filed and lost in Fulton County courts, then filed again in Fulton County to win Wednesday’s victory.

John Ricketson, a Monroe County resident, attended the hearing and said Lee’s order shocked attorneys for the state, leaving them “stammering like you had taken a baseball bat and slapped them upside the head. It was just that, really. Everybody in the court was just going, ‘Unbelievable.’”

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The Washington Post today highlights a $1 million donation given by Sherry Huff of Rossville, Ga., to a super PAC that opposed President Barack Obama’s re-election. Huff lives in a $50,000 house:

“I didn’t like the way the election was looking,” Huff wrote in an e-mail message to The Washington Post. “Desperate times call for desperate measures.”

CREW, however, believes the source of the money is more likely to have been Huff’s employer, businessman Carey V. Brown, who built a fortune with Internet payday loans he routed through Bermuda to avoid lending laws. Brown recently pledged $1 billion to a Christian charity and has a history of political contributions to Republicans.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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97 comments Add your comment

J Throckmorton Malcontent

January 10th, 2013
10:36 am

The new Georgia unit of currency should be called the “goober”.
1 Goober bill has Herschel Walker’s face on it.
3 Goober bill has Lester Maddox’s
7 Goober bill has a pot of bald peanuts
32 Goober bill has Dale Murphy
119 Goober bill has General John B Hood
2,000,000 Goober bill has Margaret Mitchell

nathan's political arsonist

January 10th, 2013
10:40 am

wish he would stay out of governing

gadem

January 10th, 2013
11:07 am

These politicians are all cowards!!!

ByteMe

January 10th, 2013
11:09 am

I heard state Rep. Bobby Franklin say almost exactly the same thing shortly before his death descent into hell.

FYT :)

Capt. Call Out

January 10th, 2013
11:09 am

@J Throckmorton Malcontent –

Awesome.

ByteMe

January 10th, 2013
11:11 am

The Washington Post today highlights a $1 million donation given by Sherry Huff of Rossville, Ga., to a super PAC that opposed President Barack Obama’s re-election

Just goes to show that money don’t equate to brains or guts.

Bobo

January 10th, 2013
11:12 am

If Deal wants to stay out of the gun control debate, then he can just abdicate his seat and let someone with some courage protect the 2nd amendment rather than just allow the media and far left to turn our country into a police state. The funny thing is that the government thinks they can take the rights of gun owners by passing a bunch of laws. Lets see how many people actually recognize the law and follow it. I know I won’t. I also know that I might not have bought a semi-automatic assault weapon before this, but they just made certain that I will purchase one now out of spite. Obama can piss up the proverbial rope. Until he can show some respect for ordinary citizens, he gets none whatsoever.

clem

January 10th, 2013
11:15 am

deal probably realizes in this state goatropers abound

On My Way

January 10th, 2013
11:16 am

So it’s OK to legislate the 14th Amendment regarding abortions, but you can’t touch the 2nd Amendment?

glburel

January 10th, 2013
11:22 am

Gov. Deal…..The artful dodger.

Shar

January 10th, 2013
11:27 am

What an impressive show of leadership from our governor.

Or not.

J

January 10th, 2013
11:29 am

Really he wants to stay out of it. Isn’t that part of his Job as Govenor of our State?

Robert

January 10th, 2013
11:32 am

The only problem with guns are the people who buy them out of “fear”. Since the Sandy Hook tragedy gun sales have gone through the roof because people “fear” President Obama will restrict their rights to purchase guns (assault rifles, etc.). I hope the NRA does the right thing and donate all gun sale profits to the families of the Sandy Hook tragedy. Donate the money NRA.

In Georgia people have been applying for and receiving permits that allow them to carry weapons openly in public places (McDonalds, Starbucks, WalMart, etc.) out of “fear” that something is going to happen to them or they will be able to prevent someone from hurting someone else (hero’s).

Georgia does not conduct mental health screenings to detect if a gun applicant is mentally fit to own a gun. This is where the problem begins. How do you determine who is mentally competent to own and use a gun?

The only way to get people to turn in their guns or implement a system to screen mentally ill gun applicants is to have a national registry that will identify current and new gun owners and publish their names and addresses in the local newspapers so people who live in their community (neighbors) will know who are registered gun owners in their neighborhood.

It is time to stop pandering to the NRA and stop living in “fear” of gun owners who legally have a right to own a gun. I have a right not to live in “fear”. Publishing their names and addresses will expose who they are where they live and hopefully reduce the “fear” factor from registered gun owners.

We publish names and addresses of child molestors, rapist and other people who use “fear” as their weapon of choice. It is time for all registered gun owners to be listed in a national register just like we do to protect our children from predators.

If gun owners have nothing to “fear” they should embrace the opportunity to explain to their neighbors why they feel compelled to own guns in my neighborhood.

The American People…

Kris

January 10th, 2013
11:35 am

nathan’s political arsonist “”wish he would stay out of governing”"

What is he governing……As a citizen, he is Governor only in title…Only good at dodging ethical lawsuits and padding his pocket….What a joke!

Molon Labe

January 10th, 2013
11:46 am

sounds like this was taken out of context

“I’ve heard of proposed legislation, but none of that is part of my agenda”

none of that gun control legislation is part of his agenda like it is that snake Cuomo’s.

Bobo

January 10th, 2013
11:46 am

Look, let’s not pretend we are ever going to agree on gun rights. I feel no need to defend my position on the 2nd amendment and if this becomes an issue that helps contribute to the inevitable civil war brewing in the next 30-50 years (if not sooner), then we know we’re on opposite sides and I’ll have the weapons while you have your hurt feelings, your law books, and a bunch of empty words. Even Hitler wrote wonderful apologetics that seemed well reasoned and logical to justify the killing of millions of innocent people. You an intellectualize anything and marginalize even the most moral of behaviors if you have a critical mass of idiots who believe it. Stalin called them ‘useful idiots’. My personal gun ownership has NOTHING to do with Sandy Hook. Sandy Hook is just another convenient political tool for the media.

As long as we’re going to outlaw root causes, why not outlaw the REAL factors that caused Sandy Hook, starting with divorce. Lanza’s parents divorcing caused the mental break that pushed him over the edge. Why don’t we also hold people accountable who didn’t FORCE him to take the anti-psychotic drugs that would’ve protected everyone else? Why don’t we hold the people accountable who ostracized him and made him feel like an outcast? Oh wait…..because life is random and you can’t make a law for everything without punishing innocent people in certain bad circumstances.

Bobo

January 10th, 2013
11:49 am

Robert that is probably the most arrogant piece of writing this side of Washington D.C. What makes you think I feel ANY accountability to you whatsoever to explain why I own gun? Who the HELL do you think you are? Since I know you’ll probably just respond to this with a long diatribe about how guilty I should feel for something I had NOTHING to do with, I’ll save you the effort of telling you that I will igore whatever you write, the same as you’re intent on ignoring any statistics or rational arguments that I might put forth. The constitution clearly means nothing to you, but then again it doesn’t mean much anymore anyway.

On My Way

January 10th, 2013
11:50 am

Thanks Bobo for predicting the next civil war. You gonna win that one?

Retired Soldier

January 10th, 2013
11:54 am

Robert-

You compare gun owners with sex offenders? Sick. You want strict gun laws, move to Chicago. What? What did you say? You don’t want to move to Chicago because the murder rate is to high? Buy a gun and protect yourself.

Kris

January 10th, 2013
11:59 am

It will be a sad day when guns are outlawed and criminals (politicians included) still have weapons..A sadder day when when they pry my weapon from my cold dead fingers.

One thought to protect our Children while at school.
1. Take funding from Shady Deals guards put more SRO’s in school’s. Deal has victor hill to protect him.
2. Reinstate fuel tax on Delta.
3. Or simply move all the cops running radar on I75/85/285 etc to the schools. Let the GSP handle the interstates. Train the Hazmat people to direct traffic as it seams there are an abundance of them standing around doing nothing when a accident spills a little fuel.

I’ll be a believer in these guns-everywhere krap when they allow armed people in the capital and on the floor of the legislature

Feral Heathen

January 10th, 2013
12:01 pm

@Robert @ 11:32AM

[I have a right not to live in “fear”.]…No you don’t, none of us do.

You have a choice to not live in fear, I choose not to live in fear, and my guns make sure that you or anyone else won’t try to instill that fear through force or coercion.

Inalienable right: a right according to natural law, a right that cannot be taken away, denied, or transferred .
This definition is what the anti-gun-cult, the media and the politicians refuse to acknowledge.

My gun ownership is not up for debate…by anyone….ever…period

Drago

January 10th, 2013
12:01 pm

Deal is gutless.

True_Blue

January 10th, 2013
12:01 pm

“no comment, no action” – moto of our governor

Go Ahead

January 10th, 2013
12:04 pm

Robert, ignorance is never so obvious as when it is written or spoken . . . GO AHEAD and publish my name as a gun owner, and when ALL of the criminals go to your house b/c you are not on the list, don’t come crying to me!

Go Ahead

January 10th, 2013
12:07 pm

Feral, be careful, the idiots in DC may think your gun ownership right is up for debate if they think it will serve them somehow . . .

Bobo

January 10th, 2013
12:10 pm

On my way….you miss the point. I don’t WANT a civil war. No one wins a war even if they win. It’s just an inevitable consequence of pushing people to their breaking point. Maybe I should re-term that to ‘revolution’. Go back and read about why the colonists declared independence from King George and see if we aren’t right back to that kind of treatment by our government.

But yes, if we do end up there, then it’s better to burn out than fade away. I will never sell out to the ‘forward progressive “thinking”‘ that is turning everyone into a narcissitic baby dependent on big government to tell them what to do with their lives.

Hooty Goot

January 10th, 2013
12:10 pm

Why don’t they put it on a ballot and let THE PEOPLE vote on it. Because they would find that only about 10% of the whole population of the USA wants tighter gun control.

Bobo

January 10th, 2013
12:12 pm

Go Ahead….why don’t we just publish Robert’s address and give a copy of that to all paroled inmates on their way out of jail. Then they’ll know where to go get free stuff…..provided it isn’t just a Big Screen TV from Rent-A-Center that his government check (me and you) bought him.

Lord help

January 10th, 2013
12:13 pm

Lord help idiots like Robert……

Go Ahead

January 10th, 2013
12:16 pm

@Hooty, not sure 10% is correct. Look at all the left-wingnuts out there – more than 10% . . . There are alot of people that really believe that if we outlaw guns the gun problem will go away!

Go Ahead

January 10th, 2013
12:18 pm

Bobo . . . LMFAO

Wondering

January 10th, 2013
12:18 pm

I am not a gun owner but I feel safe in our country. I feel safer here than when I travel over seas. The reason is the great oppressor over time has been government and ours follows the Bill of Rights to guarantee my freedom. Sure, individuals will sometimes threaten me, but I don’t often feel threatened by my government.

If you want to own a gun, do so. It’s your right. Use it in a crime and you are a criminal. Use it for sporting and self defense, and your not. It’s a very simple concept. It isn’t gun ownership that’s the problem. Ask people from Zimbabwe about machetes.

Irate Gunowner

January 10th, 2013
12:22 pm

If they allow this to be determined by Presidential executive order they do so at the risk of being re-elected.

electedface

January 10th, 2013
12:23 pm

We get it, ‘Gun Control’ is a bad word. Nobody is trying to take away the rights of the 2nd Amendment in the literal sense.

But in the world of mentally unstable, lawmakers should find a way to make our society a safer place. If restrictions placed on guns are what it takes, we open the floor to debate.

For all of you in fear of a 2nd Amendment violation calming it is unconstitutional, where were you during the NYC/LA/ATL stop and frisk movement which is still occurring? Stop and frisk is an even clearer violation of our 4th Amendment.

With that said, the U.S. has averaged more than 18 gun deaths every day since the Newtown School shooting. Something should be done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…

Ol' Timer

January 10th, 2013
12:23 pm

I have a hypothesis that folks who insist on carry guns everywhere have little penises.

Ol' Timer

January 10th, 2013
12:23 pm

I have a hypothesis that folks who insist on carry guns everywhere have little penises.

DA

January 10th, 2013
12:28 pm

Ol’timer.u should know as you love penises.

Mike Meehan

January 10th, 2013
12:29 pm

I’m surprised that the author of the Nathan Deal article would make such a glaring error (or that a proofreader would let it go unoticed and uncorrected) as to write the following: “But Geary was also able to sneak in a question about gun legislation – which has become a hot topic for governor’s elsewhere. Said Deal”. Governor’s (with an apostrophe) is the singular possessive (of the governor) and governors (no apostrophe) is the nomnitive plural (more than one governor). Other than this I continue tp have a high regard for the paper in general even though I have to stop in at a library to read it.

Regards,
Mike Meehan

Hooty Goot

January 10th, 2013
12:32 pm

Robert

Sex offenders are are in violation of the law. I violated no law by purchasing a firearm.

If you look on your county government’s web site there is PROBABLY a list of everybody in the county who has a permit to carry a gun. I don’t know this for sure but I’m about to find out. They have lists for about everything.

td

January 10th, 2013
12:33 pm

electedface

January 10th, 2013
12:23 pm

“Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither” Ben Franklin

AtlSteve

January 10th, 2013
12:34 pm

Robert@11:32
“We publish names and addresses of child molestors, rapist who use “fear” as their weapon of choice”
These are people who have committed and been CONVICTED of crimes.

Having a registered gun is not a crime.
But feel free to publize your name and address as a non-gun owner. I’m sure some of the people you mentioned above would love to drop by for a late night\early morning visit.

Hooty Goot

January 10th, 2013
12:35 pm

Go Ahead – You’re probably right, but I’d like to know. Maybe there’s a study or survey. Something interesting to research.

Ol' Timer

January 10th, 2013
12:36 pm

@DA — you don’t know me and for you to make such an ignorant statement demonstrates the intellectual capacity of many who want to walk around with something in their pockets.

td

January 10th, 2013
12:38 pm

The hot new video at MRCTV.org is 1995 footage of Attorney General Eric Holder, when he was the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia. In his remarks before the Woman’s National Democratic Club, broadcast by CSPAN 2, Holder said people should be ashamed to own guns, just the way that cigarette smokes now “cower outside of buildings” to smoke.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2013/01/10/eric-holder-gun-owners-should-cower-shame-smokers#ixzz2HayIGPt1

And this is the person on a team that is suppose to give gun owners the peace of mind that these people do not want our guns. Right.

jl williams

January 10th, 2013
12:39 pm

As I remember the President’s comments right after the event he stated that he was also going to focus on the mental health issues that have contributed to events such as Sandy Hook. It’s fine if Deal does not want to talk about guns, but I would like to hear his ideas on how he intends to improve Georgia’s pathetic mental healthcare system. In my opinion, this is the worst crisis that is currently affilicting this state.

DA

January 10th, 2013
12:41 pm

Thanks Gov Deal for not wanting anymore gun laws…Also supporting the Second Amendment and gun owners.

Kris

January 10th, 2013
12:43 pm

I’m positive that during the Georgia 2013 general assembly there will be NRA DOLLARS will be flying as fast as bullets…and faster than Newt can spot the ladies of the evening.

They only have a fer things to do anyway.

Pass a ethics law , hopefully one with some bite in it….

Find funding to put SRO in all schools without cutting the education funding.

Get more industry in GA WITH GOOD PAYING jobs…

Souls be simple for the GA GOP slime bags to do..

DA

January 10th, 2013
12:46 pm

Ol’timer you don’t know all gun carry people either…..stupid comment deserved stupid answer.
However u right I dont know you..thank God.

MANGLER

January 10th, 2013
12:52 pm

Marriage: Yep, it’s a religious institution. However, our Government, and most other Governments, grant different legal status to those who have entered into that institution and their descendants than those who have not. That legal protection (or lack thereof) is precisely why marriage has everything to do with the Government. Quit basing people’s tax rates, contracts, insurance, and property rights off of marital status, and then you can argue for separation of marriage and State.

DA

January 10th, 2013
12:58 pm

Souls (sp) be simple for the GA GOP slime bags to do… said Kris

What about the Slime bags that control the Senate and live in the White House if its so simple?