Over the weekend, the liberal website Talking Points Memo caught up with former U.S. senator Max Cleland, who declared himself thrilled with prospect of two Vietnam veterans in charge of formulating and implementing American foreign policy.

Former U.S. senator Max Cleland of Georgia/AJC file
President Barack Obama is expected to nominate former Nebraska senator Chuck Hagel for secretary of defense today. He’s already nominated Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry as a replacement for Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Said Cleland:
“Look at John Kerry and Chuck Hagel, two wounded combat veterans of the Vietnam War. They’ve got five purple hearts between them. That’s the kind of people we want withdrawing from Afghanistan and ending this insane war and occupation and focusing the country on using the American military to stay out war, but if we get in war to win war and win it quickly,” he said.
Cleland said the pair will bring harmony to the civilian and military sides of American foreign policy.
“I see them as the perfect dynamic duo — Batman and Robin, Salt and Pepper, Tom and Jerry. Whatever you want to call it, instead of State and DoD fighting each other all the time as is historically the case, I see them hand-in-glove together,” he said. The two “share a common background,” he added. “They have both been shot at and hit.”
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At the Saturday morning meeting of the Cobb Republican party, a state Republican lawmaker floated an idea for ending the debate of the hospital “bed tax” before it begins – by shutting down Medicaid. From the Marietta Daily Journal:
State Sen. Barry Loudermilk of Cassville, who will represent some of the Highway 92 area in north Cobb in the upcoming legislative session, said he recently talked with a Georgia Department of Transportation board member who expressed interest in a proposal to have the state control all the fuel taxes it issues and spends.
“There are no federal taxes that go for it, that’s what we need to be looking at,” Loudermilk said to applause, while dropping in quotes from Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin. “I’ll take it a step further: we need to start in the direction to where we don’t have a Medicaid system, but we turn it back to the way it was before Medicaid, where there were nonprofit hospitals that provided indigent care to the people, that were run by churches and religious organizations. As soon as Medicaid came into being, they went away. They saw a way of becoming a profitable institution by government funding.”
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And yet, another Republican state senator is of a very different mind when it comes to government involvement. In a weekly newspaper column and message to constituents, Buddy Carter of Pooler endorsed the proposal to tear down the Georgia Dome and build a new one – with a retractable roof. In part:
A couple of things are lost in the shuffle here. First of all keep in mind that the original Dome was built with 100 percent public funds. The new stadium deal is a public-private partnership, with the private sector bearing more than two-thirds of the cost.
And just like the original Georgia Dome, the new stadium will be owned by the State. Only this time the state will not be responsible for capital expenditures, instead we will be guaranteed $2.5 million per year with an annual two percent increase for the next 30 years.
But what about the Falcons and their billionaire owner- won’t they be getting a good deal too? Yes, if everything goes as planned they will — in economic development that’s referred to as a win-win situation.
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Tuesday will bring three special elections for legislative contests in north metro Atlanta and south Georgia – just in time for the Jan. 14 opening of the January session of the General Assembly.
Of the trio, the hottest is the contest to fill the Senate seat vacated by Chip Rogers of Woodstock, who left to take a job with Georgia Public Broadcasting after losing a fight to retain his position as majority leader. From the Woodstock Patch:
The race, hotly contested between Holly Springs resident Sean Jerguson and North Fulton Chamber of Commerce President & CEO Brandon Beach, is the source of nearly $50,000 in contributions made in its short life span of one month.
Over at Atlanta Unfiltered, Jim Walls has dinged both Senate candidates. First one:
When Brandon Beach ran for the Senate in 2010, he raised $13,600 to be spent on the general election once he became the Republican nominee. He didn’t make it that far, though, losing a primary runoff by a thin margin.
State law requires candidates to refund contributions raised for an election in which they’re not on the ballot. Beach’s campaign kept those donations in his campaign account, using some for expenses and rolling the rest over to his 2012 race. State law may allow some of that money to be reallocated after the fact to cover 2010 primary or runoff expenses, but at least $8,400 could not be redesignated since it came from donors who had reached contribution limits for those races.
Financial disclosures filed by Sean Jerguson during his six years as a state representative listed ownership interests in several businesses but omitted more than $1 million worth of real estate that they own. Those properties include the site of his Cherokee County shooting range, which it bought from another of his businesses with the help of a federally-guaranteed loan, and a Cedartown mobile home park owned with partners that is perpetually late paying its property taxes.
Meanwhile, a last word from Rogers comes in the form of his final column for Townlaker, a local community magazine that never says a bad word about anyone:
It has been an honor to be part of this publication. In today’s world, where journalism is a dead art and sensationalism laced with negativity has become the accepted form of “so-called”news reporting, it is nice to be associated with a magazine that focuses on positive stories with the purpose of being both informational and uplifting.
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Amid three races and a total of 12 candidates on Tuesday, you’ll find only one Democrat. She’s Natalie Bergeron, a 41-year-old attorney in the House District 21 race – to replace Sean Jerguson, who’s attempting to make the leap to the state Senate.
Three Republicans are on the ballot. Over the weekend, Rashad Richey, political director for the state Democratic party, declared in an email to party members that the contest has the makings of an upset:
There is a state house race that will be decided this Tuesday in a ruby red area of the state. And with several Republicans and only one Democrat in the race, we can win if A) the Republicans split their votes between several candidates and B) we get every Democrat to vote for Natalie Bergeron.
That has led Scot Turner to urge his two Republican rivals – Brian Laurens and Kenneth Mimbs — to fold up their tents and go home early. The prospect of Democrats in Cherokee County is just too terrible to contemplate:
“Democrats are trying to steal a seat that they wouldn’t normally have the opportunity to compete for going into the final weekend of this special election. The Georgia Democratic Party has sent out an email blast to its entire statewide network encouraging members to contribute financially and volunteer for the democrat opposition’s campaign. If this race goes to a runoff, the likelihood that the Democratic Political machine will come to Cherokee County en masse becomes a real possibility. Cherokee County doesn’t need this; the time to unite is now.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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78 comments Add your comment
Voter
January 7th, 2013
12:17 pm
@liberallefty – well at least OBAMA wouldnt let a terrorist murder 3000 americans like dubya did…lol
You find that funny? People died you idiot. First off, It may happen on a President’s watch, doesn’t mean it was directly their fault. 2nd, my point was about obama’s appointment of Hillary and Hillary’s appointment of people who directly failed in their jobs of supporting OUR Ambassador’s.
liberalefty
January 7th, 2013
12:18 pm
curious
why are u trying to engage in intelligent conversations with rightwing birthers? they hate the president and anything he does they will criticize it…
Retired Soldier
January 7th, 2013
12:19 pm
curious-
Was BS then and is BS now. End of story.
liberalefty
January 7th, 2013
12:20 pm
i meant “IZREEL”
WOW
January 7th, 2013
12:22 pm
Don’t really understand the Hagel opposition. Besides using the term “Jewish Lobby” which is insensitive, but not anti-Semitic, what has he done that is anti-Israeli. No one can point to anything is his voting record to back up any of these claims. As far as him not being qualified, 2 term Senator, successful business man, former VA official, member of defense policy board, what more could you want?
Voter
January 7th, 2013
12:24 pm
@liberallefty – well at least OBAMA wouldnt let a terrorist murder 3000 americans like dubya did…lol
You find that funny? People died you idiot! First off, just because it happened on a president’s watch, doesn’t mean it was directly their fault. Second, I was talking about obama’s appointment of Hillary and her appointment of people who directly failed at supporting OUR Ambassador’s. And people died because of their failure to do their jobs.
liberalefty
January 7th, 2013
12:29 pm
voter
dumb dubya couldnt defend the country…if this happened on OBAMAs watch, the racist gop will try to impeach him…you want OBAMA to look weak and stupid like dubya did on 9/11…that laughing u hear is the rest of the world laughing at dub dub dub dubya..
MANGLER
January 7th, 2013
12:29 pm
Loudermilk thinks poor people should be cared for by religious institutions huh? Would that only be Christian poor people? What about Muslim or Buddhist poor? And if those institutions were as holy as they claimed, then why did they all disappear and “find a way to make money off of government funding?” That was pretty holy of those places wasn’t it?
Carter … “if everything goes to plan” is how he’s basing his argument? Lets examine in the history of construction projects when everything went to plan.
Buymadeinusjobs
January 7th, 2013
12:35 pm
please excuse my triple post, the computer and I are having a few connection problems this morning so I did not think it posted. I would love to see Mr. Cleland run for senator or Governor, he is a honest patriot so I do not know if he can win against Alec, Koch[American prosperity] Rove,[American Crossroads, Freedom works and all the others who run half-truths in advertisements against democrats. The wealthy/corporations give billions to about 600+ super pacs , undisclosed donations are given to U. S. Chamber of Commerce and Rove , CCrossroads USA, 75% of money was used for buying votes for Republicans because they usually represent wealthy interest not seniors, veterans, low paid or unemployed workers. 300,000 thousand families in GA are below poverty level, 19,000 are on Tanf[white, black etc, georgia is 6th poorest state, , i think is what I read, you can google.
You can make a difference by registering every person in Georgia, showing them the voting records/speeches of Isakon, Chambliss gov. others. Start running for every office at local state and federal level, register and educate your voters starting to day. People in large numbers can overcome money.Check what influence in legislation, "Alec"[is that koch paid for] has on your legislation. what is it 37 georgia Reps. and 16 Georgia senators are connected to them aren’t they??
Voter
January 7th, 2013
12:37 pm
@liberallefty – What do you think our Embassy was? Our President and Secretary of State had direct knowledge of an impending attack at Benghazi and later knew of the attack has it happened, and did nothing. Nothing.
You need help.
Voter
January 7th, 2013
12:38 pm
@liberallefty – What do you think our Embassy was? Our President and Secretary of State had direct knowledge of an impending attack at Benghazi and later knew of the attack has it happened, and did nothing. Nothing. They were more worried how it would look for re-election.
You need help.
Wilbur
January 7th, 2013
12:38 pm
Great to hear the anti semites out in force on the blog today. They will do anything to defend a slacker, John Kerry and an undistinguished anti semite as long as they are the picks of their chosen one. The idea that Hegel is the most qualified person to be the secretary of defense is just laughable. If military service is the qualification, lets pick one of the young special forces heroes just back from Afghanistan. John Kerry is a phony and letting him be secretary of state is an abomination and a shame to honorable men everywhere.
Voter
January 7th, 2013
12:39 pm
@Wilbur – Well said.
WOW
January 7th, 2013
12:46 pm
@ Wilbur and Voter
Provide one shred of evidence that Hagel is an anti-Semite? Please, just one?
DJ Sniper
January 7th, 2013
12:52 pm
And here we go with the “Obama lied, somebody died” line of rhetoric. Par for the course I see.
MrLiberty
January 7th, 2013
12:57 pm
The fact that these two (Hegel and Kerry) will be seen by the anti-war left and others as being a great addition to the Obama administration because of their veteran status and generally anti-neocon attitudes towards war is just the kind of cover this bloodthirsty administration is hoping for.
Sure these two will go into office with the highest of ideals, but the perpetual war on terror is the new big industry of the nation. Those who pull the strings (of Bush and now Obama) will tolerate any decrease in hostilities or in spending, and definitely not a withdrawl of forces, etc. If these two had principles, we might expect them to resign in disgust with public statements as to the truth about this administration, but that outcome is unlikely.
So the Code Pinks of the world that have been tragically silent since Bush’s illegal and immoral wars have become Obama’s illegal and immoral wars (and have been added to with gusto) will take solace with the nomination of these two toadies, but little to nothing will come of it.
You would think that Max would have spent enough time in Washington to know by now how it works. Sadly he sounds just about as deluded as most americans.
Kris
January 7th, 2013
1:05 pm
Voter “”Liberal alert for welfare: Welfare recipients took out cash at bars, liquor stores, X-rated video shops, hookah parlors and even strip clubs — where they presumably spent their taxpayer money on lap dances rather than diapers.”"
News flash Mr/ms Voter the same can be said for the Georgia legislators…So we need to cut their PAY and HEALTH benefits as well.
Just my 1 cent worth.
Just Saying..
January 7th, 2013
1:09 pm
Aesop’s Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 7th, 2013-10:43 am-Let’s see if we can get this all straightened out, Hagel is a homophobic anti Semite who doesn’t have enough democrat votes to get confirmed, Kerry demanded Purple Hearts for wounds that were treated with a band aid using the third such award to bailout of his commitment 9 months early, treasoned against his fellow soldiers, is enshrined in the Hanoi Victory Museum and fought in Vietnam in case you haven’t heard, and Cleland threw a grenade at himself, scoring a direct hit.
Fables: Having served a year in Vietnam, let me put this as gently as I can: Go to hell.
Kris
January 7th, 2013
1:18 pm
And while on the subject, It will not be long before the SHADY DIRTY DOUBLE deal ON THE STADIUM at Taxpayers expense…Looks like the unmarked envelopes and unclaimed briefcases have arrived near the Gold Dome…Such a RAW Dirty deal for the citizens of GA to have to pay for something that when finished they cannot afford to use and enjoy.
Bye Deal 2014….
Buymadeinusjobs
January 7th, 2013
1:51 pm
War Mongers, their wealthy supporters want Bolton as sec. of defense of Israel, I mean of U. S. Remember he was advisor for Rommey. Netanhou of Israel made advertisement to try to get votes for Rommey, they were pressuring President to draw a red line for bombing Iran, , I believe Mccain , Lindsey Graham and others were there too. google Sept./Oct 2012: Rommey, Netanhou, Edelson[gave millions to Republicans]of Israel , I was it 2 trillion more Rommey wanted to spend on defense, more money from social security, medicare, medicaid. Did you see article above loudermilk/mouth wants to do away with medicaid and let churches take care of elderly/disabled, ask your family how that worked?
curious
January 7th, 2013
2:14 pm
Retired Soldier.
Probably too late, but your response of BS is BS.
That kind of stuff has gone on in every war and will continue. It may not be commonplace, but it happens. As a country with a sense of morality, we should attempt to minimize it.
Do you think Calley acted alone or only on Medina’s orders? I don’t think so.
Retired Soldier
January 7th, 2013
2:31 pm
curious-
I was a professional soldier and yes Americans have committed war crimes in the past, Calley was an example. My problem with Kerry is he told Congress they were common place and rountine. Simply not true. In addition he had folks to testify about war crimes that either were never in Vietnam or even in the military. The Kerry threw his awards and decorations over the fence at the White House. Disgusting.
That is the example of America we want other nations to see? I think not.
Did Medina know? Have no clue but I suspect he knew later. I would have to read up on that from so long ago. I was in JROTC at the time and frankly don’t remember all the facts.
War crimes are wrong, regardless who commits them. In the conflict I was in it was a priority that the troops knew what was allowed and what wasn’t. I’m glad to say none of my soldiers acted incorrectly to the beat of my knowledge.
Retired Soldier
January 7th, 2013
2:34 pm
Kris-
I assume you feel the same way about K. Reed since he supports the project.
Eli
January 7th, 2013
2:59 pm
Like the Republican opposition to Susan Rice’s nomination, Hagel’s record is not what is really at issue.
The GOP just wants Obama to nominate a sitting senator so they can maybe pick up one more Senate seat and water down Democratic influence in Congress.
Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
January 7th, 2013
4:49 pm
Hagel is a man of honor. Those without honor find him objectionable, and possibly dangerous to their satanic faction’s multi-generational treason.
Panamigo
January 7th, 2013
6:36 pm
Why oh why do I have to live in the most un-American State in this country? Georgia was a loyalist state (supported England) during the Revolutionary War, and left the Union during the Civil War, and just can’t give up on the (first) Confederate flag .. Stars and Bars.
Look at the Georgia U.S. Quarter. Look at the map of Georgia on the back. Do you know why it is not the same as a real map of Georgia?
I know where Cherokee County is and I am a Democrat. I donate to the Cherokee County Humain Society (and live in DeKalb).. do you?
Starik
January 7th, 2013
7:27 pm
Why is it that the “patriotic” right wingers rarely served in the military in wartime? They denigrate the politicians who, in their youth, actully volunteered to serve or submitted to the draft, and lionize people like Dubya, Romney, and other folks who used various strategies to avoid service in Vietnam?
“Retired Soldier…” I hate to disillusion you, but many, many bad things were perpetrated in Vietnam. I saw some of them.
Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
January 8th, 2013
3:43 am
Those who yet serve the traitors in the CIA who assassinated JFK, led by Nixon and GHW Bush, to send us to die in Vietnam as catspaw for Rome and the Talmudic profiteers who have served the Anti-Christ for thousands of years, now oppose Hagel for his unabashed loyalty to America, and Kerry for his legitimate Silver Star.
The Khazarite mobsters who are RothschildZionism, literally in partnership with Rockefeller, see us as “goyim,” “a mindless herd of cattle,” for they were raised on the Talmud’s instruction that we are “sub-human” if not born Jewish, and to be their “slaves.”
Wake up, America. Our ancestors received Our Nation in covenant with the Creator, the fulfillment of Isaiah’s prophecy of Zion as true Jews know. Read his prophecy and know G-d’s word. Let us not again allow traitors to influence policy to send more of us to die shedding the blood of innocents.
G-d is not mocked. The curse causeless shall not come.