House Republicans balk at cliff deal
U.S. House Republicans emerged from a lengthy caucus meeting this afternoon declaring their opposition to the “fiscal cliff” deal that hastily passed the Senate overnight with an 89-8 vote. After hearing a festivus-style airing of grievances against the deal — struck by Vice President Joe Biden and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell — House leaders are still trying to figure out what to do with it. Many Republicans want to amend it to include more spending cuts.
Brendan Buck, a spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner, said: “The lack of spending cuts in the Senate bill was a universal concern amongst members in today’s meeting. Conversations with members will continue throughout the afternoon on the path forward.”
Lawrenceville Republican Rep. Rob Woodall was walking the halls clutching a report from the Congressional Budget Office that illustrated members’ concerns. According to the nonpartisan CBO, the deal would add $3.97 trillion to budget deficits in the next decade as compared with current law. Current law, of course, includes big tax hikes and spending cuts that lawmakers say they do not want. And the vast majority of that deficit impact ($3.63 trillion) comes in the form of tax cuts that Republicans generally like.
But Republicans want cuts from other programs to offset the impact of the spending provisions, which include extending long-term unemployment, maintaining Medicare reimbursement rates for doctors and putting off the across-the-board “sequester” cuts for two months.
Coweta County Republican Rep. Lynn Westmoreland said he was surprised at how overwhelming the Senate vote was and that he could not support the bill unless it’s changed.
“That was kind of a shock to us that they didn’t stand for some spending cuts, so we’re dealing with that right now,” he said.
Woodall added, “I don’t think there’s anyone in the seventh district of Georgia who wants me to trade away good policy for America in the name of expediency because the Senate has run us up against this deadline.”
House Democrats did not share those misgivings, for the most part, after being wooed by Biden. Atlanta Democratic Rep. David Scott — who like the vice president also spent his childhood in Scranton, Pa. — said Biden “has his own way of presenting things and did a great job.” Scott said he was backing the deal.
“We’ve got the kind of deal that Americans can be proud of because there is a very, very serious hunger among the American people to see Democrats and Republicans come together on something,” he said. “And we’ve got something here.”
For House Republicans looking to tweak the bill and send it back, the Senate is in session but not all senators are in town. Georgia Republican Johnny Isakson slept from 2:45 a.m. to 6:30 a.m., then caught a flight back to Atlanta. Calling from his Cobb County home, where he was preparing to watch the Georgia Bulldogs in the Capital One Bowl, Isakson said it was not hard for him to support the deal, which both he and Georgia Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss voted for.
“The net effect of that vote was a $3.7 trillion reduction in taxes for 99 percent of American taxpayers,” Isakson said.
“There was a lot in it for everybody but the main thing that’s been missed by most of the media … these are all permanent changes. Congress would have to pass an act to change the taxes put in place.”
He had not spoken to his House GOP colleagues, but predicted that they would like it, too.
“They’ll have a lot more time to absorb the final deal than we did and I think as they absorb it they will recognize the value,” Isakson said.
That prediction has not come true so far.
- By Daniel Malloy, Political Insider
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clem
January 1st, 2013
5:07 pm
house repubs need to go tweak themselves
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Rafe Hollister
January 1st, 2013
5:09 pm
Johnny showing how out of touch he really is. Yeah, they like it a bunch John!!! How could you not stand for some fiscal responsibility rather than vote for something that adds almost 4 Trillion to our debt.
the bob.bob
January 1st, 2013
5:13 pm
Any Republican that gets out of line will have to answer to Lord Grover Norquist! Ideological purity and loyalty to The Pledge comes before the good of The Nation.
Ideological extremists will destroy this country. The “Just Say No!” radicals must be thrown out!
jefflz
January 1st, 2013
5:13 pm
We need to mount a nation-wide recall effort to get the Tea Party Taliban out of Congress and let the Republicans return to normalcy. The GOP is being held hostage by a minority of rabid extremists who are funded by a cabal of very rich fascists.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 1st, 2013
5:17 pm
Raining on obozo’s parade?
Awesome.
S Koehn
January 1st, 2013
5:18 pm
Spending is the problem! There is nothing here to significantly reduce spending. We must cut from ACTUAL spending, not projected. The House must amend tthis bill to include real cuts in spending.The tax exemption extensions listed in HR8 read like a list of special interests. Change the rates to reduce taxes.CUT SPENDING increasingly over the next decade. ! WE DO NOT NEED ALL THOSE INCENTIVES FOR CLEAN ENERGY, most of which have gone to failed/ failing enterprises. Space exploration is continuing in the private sector. Prizes offered in the pricate sector are reaping significant new technology. This bill is just kicking the can down the road, yet again.
Curious
January 1st, 2013
5:23 pm
AESOP,
more likely raining on your parade.
Curious
January 1st, 2013
5:26 pm
S Koehn,
who did the R&D to get the space program going?
i remember 7-8 Vanguard rockets blowing up on the launch pad or right after takeoff.
tell the truth
January 1st, 2013
5:26 pm
Aesop’s Fables and other Lib Economic Theories no rain here
your wealthy greedy repukes will get a tax increase finally- ain’t it grand??
td
January 1st, 2013
5:26 pm
Glad to hear that Republican house members actually get it. This is nothing more then a Democratic spending bill. BTW libs, Grover actually supported this bill because it made the tax cuts on the bottom 98% permanent.
“The “fiscal cliff” deal that was designed to save money actually includes $330.3 billion in new spending over the next decade, according to the official estimate the Congressional Budget Office released Tuesday afternoon.
CBO said the bill contains about $25.1 billion in new cuts, but those are swamped by the new spending on extended unemployment benefits for the long-term jobless and other new refundable tax credits that President Obama fought for.
Of those cuts, only $2 billion are scheduled to take effect in 2013.
And CBO also warned that some of the cuts Congress is counting are from programs on which CBO never expected the money to be spent anyway — such as cuts to the Consumer Operated and Oriented Plan, which was part of Mr. Obama’s health care law.
All told, the bill deepens the deficit by nearly $4 trillion over the next decade, when the new tax cuts and spending are combined.
The bill also delays by two months the automatic spending cuts slated to take effect Wednesday, with a promise to reduce spending in the future to cover for them.”
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/jan/1/deficit-fiscal-cliff-bill-actually-spends-330-bill/#ixzz2Gl68L2dK
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Kris
January 1st, 2013
5:26 pm
I would just like to say thank you to the Senate for doing the absolute minimum we expect of you. Thanks for doing your job. Thanks for doing your part to head off another recession as we are barely recovering from the last one. And after skating the edge of national and global economic disaster for the better part of four years, and doing absolutely nothing, thanks for doing your job and backing away from the edge. That is the absolute minimum we could expect of you and you did it. Kudos! Congratulations!
Now let’s see if the House will follow and do the absolute minimum we could expect of them. C’mon House, you can do it. Do YOUR job
Corey
January 1st, 2013
5:28 pm
@Aesop’s Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 1st, 2013
5:17 pm
passed the Senate overnight with an 89-8 vote
Raining on whose parade? I didn’t know that there are 89 democrats in the Senate.
skeeter
January 1st, 2013
5:30 pm
to the cliff repukes to the cliff
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 1st, 2013
5:32 pm
Those “wealthy, greedy repukes ” provide more jobs than obozo and his crack head food stamp showering “green” boondoggles could ever hope to.
So let’s suck them dry and fund some more follies, there you go, genius.
WAW
January 1st, 2013
5:33 pm
The latest news for the Kardashian House of Representatives. We vote NO! What else is reality?
td
January 1st, 2013
5:33 pm
Also Saxby, You might as well announce your retirement because you are going to lose a primary challenge in two years.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 1st, 2013
5:34 pm
I never said Senate Republicans weren’t cowards.
skeeter
January 1st, 2013
5:35 pm
Aesop’s Fables and other Lib Economic Theories He is still the President and you’re still a troglodyte
td
January 1st, 2013
5:35 pm
A few revision to this feel good legislation:
US national revenue: 2,170,000,000,000
Federal Budget: 3,820,000,000,000
New Debt: 1,650,000,000,000
National debt: 14,271,000,000,000
Recent budget cuts: 35,500,000,000
Now let us remove 8 zeros and pretend it is a household budget:
Annual family income: $21,700
Money family spent: $38,200
New debt on the credit card: $16,500
Outstanding balance on the credit card: $142,710
Total household budget cuts so far: $38.50 (now $14)
New revenue coming in this next year (Obama proposed tax increase): $80.00 (now $61)
skeeter
January 1st, 2013
5:36 pm
please repukes please take us over the cliff do it do it
skeeter
January 1st, 2013
5:37 pm
td we read this the first 10 times you posted it
go back to your coloring book
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 1st, 2013
5:39 pm
obozo’s a president like the botulism is a medicine.
Curious
January 1st, 2013
5:41 pm
Aesop,
In all liklehood those “obozo and his crack head food stamp showering “green” boondoggles could ever hope to.” create the most jobs.
Without consumer demand, those “wealthy, greedy repukes ” wouldn’t be able to fall into that category.
td
January 1st, 2013
5:42 pm
skeeter
January 1st, 2013
5:36 pm
please repukes please take us over the cliff do it do it
And tell us what going over the cliff really means?
Tax increases on everyone? Real spending reductions? Better then this sham that is nothing more then a hidden Democratic spending bill. The Republicans can make it their first order of business in a few days to cut all those taxes and restore the defense spending and blame Obama and the Dems for not allowing tax cuts and gutting the military.
stac
January 1st, 2013
5:43 pm
Please don’t tell me there is no room for spending cuts. We do not have a tax problem, we have a government that is out of control and gives to everyone who asks at the tax payers expense. Start cutting out these programs that keep people dependent on the government. Its time people stand up and start taking care of themselves. Lets start with the Obama phone and time on it monthly. Go from there.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 1st, 2013
5:46 pm
Curious – Buying blunts at the convenience store is exactly one of the top contributors to the nation’s gross domestic product.
skeeter
January 1st, 2013
5:47 pm
td let’s do it let all the tax increases take effect- every single one of them- on income, payroll. dividends. capital gains, and that fabulous death tax that you all hate so
and let the auto cuts take place that your boys agreed to
let’s give it a go- what do you say???
Steve
January 1st, 2013
5:50 pm
This is nothing more than more rhetoric by the Liberals trying to make themselves out to be bi-partisan.
We want REAL spending cuts. This is not a cut. We are still spending more. It has to stop. Just because many Liberals don’t even pay taxes they think it is perfectly reasonable to just spend all over the place. That is the EXACT same mentality that puts many of them in the need of government assistance in the first place.
td
January 1st, 2013
5:52 pm
skeeter
January 1st, 2013
5:47 pm
It is better then increasing the debt by another $4 trillion over 10 years with this deal. When these taxes go up on everyone else then maybe the American people will start to realize the real problems in spending we have in this country.
Liberty Lady 2
January 1st, 2013
5:52 pm
Jefflz, You have been reading too much liberal propaganda…”the tea party” is not a single political party. It IS a movement with many facets. It is IS supported by many everyday working, unemployed, retired, young, old, independents, vets, etc. etc. who are mostly color-blind, and openhearted, believe in being paid for our work, paying our bills, living within our means, deciding ourselves how to distribute the fruits of our labor, helping those in need, and funding Government only to the exent provided for in our Constitution. which I suggest you study, as well as review the definitions of fascisim, socialism, communisim.
skeeter
January 1st, 2013
5:54 pm
td do it tell your drugstore cowboys to do it
you will have to tell your Ga delegation what to do because they could not find their butt with both hands unless Grover tells them what to do and how to vote
CC
January 1st, 2013
5:59 pm
The House is responding correctly in this matter. Obozo and the dimwits give lip-service to increasing revenue but want astronomical increases in spending. The answer from the House should be a resounding, “No!” Let the taxes and the lay-offs begin! Let’s also start taxing the moochers, too. Taxing of Social Security benefits has been the rule for some time now, so let’s tax the welfare recipients, too.
LET’S TAX EVERYONE!
Rafe Hollister
January 1st, 2013
5:59 pm
How anyone who has one objective brain cell thinks that a 4 Trillion dollar spending bill is what this country needs. We have spent 5 T in the last four years, and what has it got us, four years older and deeper in debt. We owe our soul to the Chinese store.
What happened to the “balanced” approach to reducing the deficit, that Barry promised. He is the bait and switch master, always promising to do something with our fiscal problems, and then is the first to escalate the spending and poke fun at those wishing to cut spending. Dishonest, deceptive, and disingenuous, but the Libs and lapdog media love him. The end justifies the means for them, I suppose.
clem
January 1st, 2013
6:02 pm
tparty crowd, not to swift, dick armey fleeced them for a big chute
VA/DC/MD
January 1st, 2013
6:03 pm
Eric just wants yet another 15
Real Athens
January 1st, 2013
6:04 pm
“According to the nonpartisan CBO, the deal would add $3.97 trillion to budget deficits in the next decade as compared with current law … the vast majority of that deficit impact ($3.63 trillion) comes in the form of tax cuts that Republicans generally like.”
Does anyone read before they comment? I thought conservative were for tax cuts?
This whole stand off is about one party “winning” in the eyes of voters. As a result, we all lose.
Real Athens
January 1st, 2013
6:07 pm
LL Deuce:
” .. I suggest you study, as well as review the definitions of fascisim, socialism, communisim.”
I suggest you learn the differences; because there are many. While you’re at it, learn to spell them too.
Kris
January 1st, 2013
6:07 pm
Corey “ Raining on whose parade? I didn’t know that there are 89 democrats in the Senate.”
Now we need another 89 Democrats to replace 89 GOP slime balls that will not do their job.
td
January 1st, 2013
6:09 pm
Real Athens
January 1st, 2013
6:04 pm
And where is your link to the article you are quoting?
cdawg
January 1st, 2013
6:10 pm
Way to go guys. Continue to fight among yourselves while the rest of the nation goes to pot. Get real. Think about what you are doing and pass this measure before you send us into another recession or worse a depression. Work together as you would if you were in business. There is no other option……
Chris
January 1st, 2013
6:10 pm
We have a bunch of overpaid politicians deciding each of our fate who have lost touch with the reality of what it is to be a 30-60k a year American. They are playing russian roulett with our lives, our children and our country. Congress gets a raise Mr. President, yet our Country gets trust into a Recession due to your inability to lead…. shameful. Just another reason why we should have term limits on all our political offices. So the individuals leading our country never have a chance to forget what it is like as a Average Joe and never take us all for granted again.
clem
January 1st, 2013
6:12 pm
if market tanks because of these theatrics, what does that say about the market?
Pete
January 1st, 2013
6:17 pm
The problem in the House is as follows: the district lines have been so gerrymandered that these GOP radicals in the House will continue to be re-elected no matter how much damage they do to the country. The GOP will be blamed for this but it doesn’t matter. The same clowns will continue to be elected.
td
January 1st, 2013
6:19 pm
ITLE I—GENERAL EXTENSIONS
Subtitle A—Tax Relief
Sec. 101. Permanent extension and modification of 2001 tax relief.
Sec. 102. Permanent extension and modification of 2003 tax relief.
Sec. 103. Extension of 2009 tax relief.
Sec. 104. Permanent alternative minimum tax relief.
Only part of the bill that is good and the reason Grover supported it.
TITLE II—INDIVIDUAL TAX EXTENDERS
Sec. 201. Extension of deduction for certain expenses of elementary and secondary school teachers.
Teachers union payoff not needed
Sec. 202. Extension of exclusion from gross income of discharge of qualified principal residence indebtedness.
Special interest tax cut not needed.
Sec. 203. Extension of parity for exclusion from income for employer-provided mass transit and parking benefits.
Payoff to Dem cities not needed
Sec. 204. Extension of mortgage insurance premiums treated as qualified residence interest.
You should not be able to write off PMI as an interest deduction. Put 20% down on a house.
Sec. 205. Extension of deduction of State and local general sales taxes.
Only works in high tax Dem states not needed.
Sec. 206. Extension of special rule for contributions of capital gain real property made for conservation purposes.
Special interest tax cut not needed.
Sec. 207. Extension of above-the-line deduction for qualified tuition and related expenses.
Special interest not needed
Sec. 208. Extension of tax-free distributions from individual retirement plans for charitable purposes.
Special interest not needed
Sec. 209. Improve and make permanent the provision authorizing the Internal Revenue Service to disclose certain return and return information to certain prison officials.
td
January 1st, 2013
6:21 pm
TITLE III—BUSINESS TAX EXTENDERS
Sec. 301. Extension and modification of research credit.
Sec. 302. Extension of temporary minimum low-income tax credit rate for nonfederally subsidized new buildings.
Sec. 303. Extension of housing allowance exclusion for determining area median gross income for qualified residential rental project exempt facility bonds.
Sec. 304. Extension of Indian employment tax credit.
Sec. 305. Extension of new markets tax credit.
Sec. 306. Extension of railroad track maintenance credit.
Sec. 307. Extension of mine rescue team training credit.
Sec. 308. Extension of employer wage credit for employees who are active duty members of the uniformed services.
Sec. 309. Extension of work opportunity tax credit.
Sec. 310. Extension of qualified zone academy bonds.
Sec. 311. Extension of 15-year straight-line cost recovery for qualified leasehold improvements, qualified restaurant buildings and improvements, and qualified retail improvements.
Sec. 312. Extension of 7-year recovery period for motorsports entertainment complexes.
Sec. 313. Extension of accelerated depreciation for business property on an Indian reservation.
Sec. 314. Extension of enhanced charitable deduction for contributions of food inventory.
Sec. 315. Extension of increased expensing limitations and treatment of certain real property as section 179 property.
Sec. 316. Extension of election to expense mine safety equipment.
Sec. 317. Extension of special expensing rules for certain film and television productions.
Sec. 318. Extension of deduction allowable with respect to income attributable to domestic production activities in Puerto Rico.
Sec. 319. Extension of modification of tax treatment of certain payments to controlling exempt organizations.
Sec. 320. Extension of treatment of certain dividends of regulated investment companies.
Sec. 321. Extension of RIC qualified investment entity treatment under FIRPTA.
Sec. 322. Extension of subpart F exception for active financing income.
Sec. 323. Extension of look-thru treatment of payments between related controlled foreign corporations under foreign personal holding company rules.
Sec. 324. Extension of temporary exclusion of 100 percent of gain on certain small business stock.
Sec. 325. Extension of basis adjustment to stock of S corporations making charitable contributions of property.
Sec. 326. Extension of reduction in S-corporation recognition period for builtin gains tax.
Sec. 327. Extension of empowerment zone tax incentives.
Sec. 328. Extension of tax-exempt financing for New York Liberty Zone.
Sec. 329. Extension of temporary increase in limit on cover over of rum excise taxes to Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands.
Sec. 330. Modification and extension of American Samoa economic development credit.
Sec. 331. Extension and modification of bonus depreciation.
All of them for special interest payoffs, not needed
td
January 1st, 2013
6:23 pm
TITLE IV—ENERGY TAX EXTENDERS
Sec. 401. Extension of credit for energy-efficient existing homes.
Sec. 402. Extension of credit for alternative fuel vehicle refueling property.
Sec. 403. Extension of credit for 2- or 3-wheeled plug-in electric vehicles.
Sec. 404. Extension and modification of cellulosic biofuel producer credit.
Sec. 405. Extension of incentives for biodiesel and renewable diesel.
Sec. 406. Extension of production credit for Indian coal facilities placed in service before 2009.
Sec. 407. Extension and modification of credits with respect to facilities producing energy from certain renewable resources.
Sec. 408. Extension of credit for energy-efficient new homes.
Sec. 409. Extension of credit for energy-efficient appliances.
Sec. 410. Extension and modification of special allowance for cellulosic biofuel plant property.
Sec. 411. Extension of special rule for sales or dispositions to implement FERC or State electric restructuring policy for qualified electric utilities.
Sec. 412. Extension of alternative fuels excise tax credits.
Huge waste of money and more payoffs for Obama supporters.
Keep doing this GOP
January 1st, 2013
6:24 pm
Keep on doing this GOP, you got your butt whipped in the last election.
Not a single democrat that was up for re-election lost, not a single one.
Come 2014, they will get their but whipped again, even with jerrymandering
Why? Because of what is happening today.
td
January 1st, 2013
6:24 pm
TITLE V—UNEMPLOYMENT
Sec. 501. Extension of emergency unemployment compensation program.
Sec. 502. Temporary extension of extended benefit provisions.
Sec. 503. Extension of funding for reemployment services and reemployment and eligibility assessment activities.
Sec. 504. Additional extended unemployment benefits under the Railroad Unemployment Insurance Act.
How long are we going to continue to pay people to sit on their but and not find a job? It has been almost 4 years now.
td
January 1st, 2013
6:26 pm
TITLE VI—MEDICARE AND OTHER HEALTH EXTENSIONS
Subtitle A—Medicare Extensions
Sec. 601. Medicare physician payment update.
Sec. 602. Work geographic adjustment.
Sec. 603. Payment for outpatient therapy services.
Sec. 604. Ambulance add-on payments.
Sec. 605. Extension of Medicare inpatient hospital payment adjustment for lowvolume hospitals.
Sec. 606. Extension of the Medicare-dependent hospital (MDH) program.
Sec. 607. Extension for specialized Medicare Advantage plans for special needs individuals.
Sec. 608. Extension of Medicare reasonable cost contracts.
Sec. 609. Performance improvement.
Sec. 610. Extension of funding outreach and assistance for low-income programs.
Should be a different bill.
td
January 1st, 2013
6:27 pm
Subtitle B—Other Health Extensions
Sec. 621. Extension of the qualifying individual (QI) program.
Sec. 622. Extension of Transitional Medical Assistance (TMA).
Sec. 623. Extension of Medicaid and CHIP Express Lane option.
Sec. 624. Extension of family-to-family health information centers.
Sec. 625. Extension of Special Diabetes Program for Type I diabetes and for Indians.
All welfare extensions. Should all be cut.
Keep doing this GOP
January 1st, 2013
6:27 pm
Only part of the bill that is good and the reason Grover supported it.
I thought the legislation was written for the American people, not someone who was named after a Sesame Street character.
td
January 1st, 2013
6:28 pm
Subtitle C—Other Health Provisions
Sec. 631. IPPS documentation and coding adjustment for implementation of MS-DRGs.
Sec. 632. Revisions to the Medicare ESRD bundled payment system to reflect findings in the GAO report.
Sec. 633. Treatment of multiple service payment policies for therapy services.
Sec. 634. Payment for certain radiology services furnished under the Medicare hospital outpatient department prospective payment system.
Sec. 635. Adjustment of equipment utilization rate for advanced imaging services.
Sec. 636. Medicare payment of competitive prices for diabetic supplies and elimination of overpayment for diabetic supplies.
Sec. 637. Medicare payment adjustment for non-emergency ambulance transports for ESRD beneficiaries.
Sec. 638. Removing obstacles to collection of overpayments.
Sec. 639. Medicare advantage coding intensity adjustment.
Sec. 640. Elimination of all funding for the Medicare Improvement Fund.
Sec. 641. Rebasing of State DSH allotments.
Sec. 642. Repeal of CLASS program.
Sec. 643. Commission on Long-Term Care.
Sec. 644. Consumer Operated and Oriented Plan program contingency fund.
TITLE VII—EXTENSION OF AGRICULTURAL PROGRAMS
Sec. 701. 1-year extension of agricultural programs.
Sec. 702. Supplemental agricultural disaster assistance.
TITLE IX—MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS
Sec. 901. Strategic delivery systems.
Sec. 902. No cost of living adjustment in pay of members of congress.
TITLE X—BUDGET PROVISIONS
Subtitle A—Modifications of Sequestration
Sec. 1001. Treatment of sequester.
Sec. 1002. Amounts in applicable retirement plans may be transferred to designated Roth accounts without distribution
Rest of this spending bill.
Todd Hamilton
January 1st, 2013
6:28 pm
Saxby and Isakson you are a joke!!!! No spending cuts, lets just add to the 21 trillion deficit, You will both be primaried and you will both be out.. Establishment Republicans you are an embarrassment and a big part of the problem..
steve brown
January 1st, 2013
6:32 pm
Term limits for these masters of doing nothing but lining their own pockets. Perhaps this is the one thing most Americans can agree on. I’ll propose 6 years for the President, 5 years for a Senator and 4 years for congress. After that they can get real jobs. I feel that term limits may be the last best hope.
Allen
January 1st, 2013
6:33 pm
Having just watched the movie- Les Miserable, there is a line which applies to the frat and college room mates The Johnny and Saxby show”
” Bring him home, he is but a boy….”
It is time for Georgia to have real conservative representation.
Todd
January 1st, 2013
6:43 pm
Let me get this right? You guys are good with the gov. spending more money and it is a bad thing that the Repubs want spending cuts.
Dysfunctional Republican
January 1st, 2013
6:44 pm
Hi, I am a Dysfunctional Republican and If I can have my way Id Like to see taxes raised on all Americans.
It does not make sense to help the American People. We are republican and we’d rather support some abstract Ideology that actually work for the people..
We think you lazy 98 percent should get a job and pay your dam taxes in your freakin upside down houses that you cant sell. What? Did you think we worked for you? NO WAY BABY
We are the New Gestapo! ULTRA RIGHT WING RADICAL DYSFUNCTIONAL BABY!
Dysfunctional Republican # 2
January 1st, 2013
6:46 pm
Please Raise My Taxes…
Makemyday
January 1st, 2013
6:48 pm
These Radical Tea Party folks–WERE elected by their voters in their Districts back home. They are representing the will of those folks. Wish the Senate had a bunch of them!! When Obama leaves office in 4 years this country will be worse than Greece but he will speed off with his Pension, Medical Insurance and Tax Paid Bodyguards for the rest of his life and he is not the only one, there are some in the Senate and House as well. Pure Politics at its worse. NO ACCOUNTABILITY!! But this is what some folks wanted. So be it.
Steven Dickey
January 1st, 2013
6:49 pm
Why do you want to bring America down so bad when we have problems that need to be worked on now. Work with America not agains it. Let’s work together and get America back on it’s feet. Be real men and women, stand up and be Republicans not pupets of the tea party or change your name to teapublicans. Please do not throw us back to a recession, the economy is still weak.
Kris
January 1st, 2013
6:51 pm
Congress and The GOP smile bags , “Bonehead” is a national embarrassment. And disgrace to the American people.
God bless President Obama.
1. Guzzle it down
2. Avoid Eat Fatty Foods
3. Drink plenty Carbonated Drinks
Raise your head, look as your political career comes to a sudden stop…usually when you fall off a cliff.
@ Todd “Saxby and Isakson you are a joke!!!!” Well Said!
Liberal Pariah
January 1st, 2013
6:52 pm
For 8 years Liberals have told us the Bush tax cuts are responsible for everything bad that’s ever happened since the beginning of time. Now it is a hill the President and the Dems are willing to die on. What changed? No spending cuts equal no solution to the problem. Go ‘obstructionists’!!!!
Lori B.
January 1st, 2013
6:53 pm
I hate both sides! A budge is a budget!! If you dont have any money for a war, then you dont get one. If you dont have the money for 45.8 million people — almost 15% of the country to be on food stamps, then everyone doesn’t get food stamps! If you dont have the money for international aid, then you dont get to send it!!! This is NOT hard to do!!!
catlady
January 1st, 2013
6:53 pm
“Amongst?!” Who says “amongst?”
Dysfunctional Republican # 2
January 1st, 2013
6:55 pm
I have 4 children. I make 16.00 hr. My house was once worth 225k its now worth 75k. I was wondering if you brother republicans could vote to raise my taxes, in the name of your ideology….
I would be happy to support your 900.00 raise if you would jack my taxes up.
Atlanta native
January 1st, 2013
6:56 pm
Obama is a pathological liar. He said” we can make sure that we cut 2.5 dollars for every dollar of increased revenue,” Now his offer is $1 in cuts for every $41 in revenue…. Insanity…Bring on this cliff….let the moochers go the way of the Eastern Airline workers…”Better to die one glorious death than a thousand small ones” General Patton … The idiots are cheering him on while he pockets all that evil money (800% increase in wealth he has amassed in 4 years screwing this country). The idiots are cheering him on while rides them into the ground. Nobody is ENTITLED to anything as an American, You have the Constitiution and Bill of Rights as your ENTITLEMENT and the rest is on the labors of your sweat and your own decisions. You are not entitled by the Bill of Rights or Consitituion for the stupid mistakes or poor money mgmt skills you employ and thus other Americans (tax payers) are not required to provide for your existence… Simple enought concept but Obama have increased people’s dependance for their existence upon a check from the Gov’t supplied by those hard workers who made the right decisions and do not deserve to have their wealth redistributed….Socialism is his game plan….All the political angst and moral melodrama about getting “the rich” to pay “their fair share” is part of a big charade. This is not about economics, it is about politics. Taxing “the rich” will produce a drop in the bucket when compared to the staggering and unprecedented deficits of the Obama administration. Yet political and media discussions of the financial crisis have been focused overwhelmingly on how to get more tax revenue to pay for past and future spending. The very catchwords and phrases used by the Obama administration betray how phony this all is. For example, “We are just asking the rich to pay a little more.” In England for the 2009-10 tax year, more than 16,000 people declared an annual income of more than £1 million to HM Revenue and Customs. This number fell to just 6,000 after Gordon Brown introduced the new 50p top rate of income tax shortly before the last general election. The figures show AGAIN that increasing the highest rate of tax actually led to a loss in revenues for the Government. It is believed that rich Britons moved abroad or took steps to avoid paying the new levy by reducing their taxable incomes. That will happen here and you can be sure that the bloodsuckers will still demand to live a life of entitlement, so ALL taxpayers..you are next on Obama’s hit list.
skeeter
January 1st, 2013
6:58 pm
http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/American%20Taxpayer%20Relief%20Act.pdf
here is your link td
Old timer
January 1st, 2013
7:01 pm
I am very disappointed with the GA senators. We do not need MORE spending……we have a spending addiction. I also do not like bills passed in the middle of the night thqt no one has read.
Old timer
January 1st, 2013
7:02 pm
In my house we live within our means and save money.
honested
January 1st, 2013
7:02 pm
House gop, like the image of a person slowly floating away on an iceberg.
The world will begin to improve when they are completely gone.
honested
January 1st, 2013
7:04 pm
old timer,
Yes, we need to cut MIC spending in half immediately!
Unless we downsize the military to reflect what is really needed, we will be broke forever!
Old timer
January 1st, 2013
7:10 pm
And many smart well educated people are members of the Tea Party
I Amongst us!
January 1st, 2013
7:10 pm
The republicans are so obstructionist that they will over throw the government in the name of some abstract ideology that is not shared by the majority of the people
Here is a chance to keep taxes down (their suppose battle cry), on 98% of the people. And then fight for budget items when the debt ceiling issue is raise. That seem to be the logical and practical thing to do given the set of circumstances, that is if you are true to your principles.
Todd Saxby and Isakson are right. You radicals are pushing the republicans into a disgrace for position. At some point you may realize that you don’t run the country…
Angry White Male – vs,- God Women, African Americans, Hispanics, Asian and l. …. Heck even my dog and cat.
skeeter
January 1st, 2013
7:11 pm
Atlanta native feeling better now? How very typical that you repukes want to denigrate anyone that disagrees with or votes different from you
Were you born a racist or simply evolve into one?? You idiots continue to call those that voted against your two LOSERS the last 2 elections blood suckers and welfare trash. You obviously have no clue about who makes up those on welfare. I have no desire nor will I waste one more moment on trying to educate another buffoon that thinks he knows everything. I know this- you lost again. You will continue to lose. You as usual have no concern for the poor; the working man; the elderly; nor the least of these. You are a typical greedy useless repuke who rails against any kind of help for the needy but will always vote for more tax cuts for the wealthy and for giving cash subsidies to big business, the oil industry, the military industrial complex and millionaire farm owners.
Real Athens
January 1st, 2013
7:13 pm
“And where is your link to the article you are quoting?”
Read the third paragraph (above) of Galloway’s blog post you’re commenting on, fool.
Sheesh.
Old timer
January 1st, 2013
7:17 pm
By the way, can either of you guys help me with a foreclosure attorney? My House is also upside down from all the sub prime bank loans under George W Bush.
Please lower my taxes 1st then next we will balance the books and reign in spending, can we become dysfunctional and idiotic after I save my house from foreclosure? Can we get one thing done 1st before moving on to something else?
Why are people calling this a “do little congress”?
Real Athens
January 1st, 2013
7:18 pm
“The figures show AGAIN that increasing the highest rate of tax actually led to a loss in revenues for the Government.”
Actually, you should study American History. This ain’t the “Great Empire.”
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/sep/22/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-taxes-are-lower-today-under-reag/
Wisdom
January 1st, 2013
7:19 pm
God is on the side of the poor…. Always.
tell the truth
January 1st, 2013
7:19 pm
td having trouble reading that graph I sent you td?? pretty simple to read actually
PR
January 1st, 2013
7:20 pm
Once again republicans show they don’t care about the poor, needy and unemployed. They only care about the rich who line their pockets with gold. Republicans are a-holes.
Tea Party
January 1st, 2013
7:22 pm
A dark mind.
Morality?
January 1st, 2013
7:22 pm
Fiscal Cliff is just what the Dems deserve………. let’s go!
Dum-Bass
January 1st, 2013
7:24 pm
It’s time for the House Repubs to send a message to Mr. “Hotdog” President and Senate members like Hairy Reed and Nancy Peelooser. They don’t run the world and don’t have total control of our government. Let’s go ahead and vote this one down, if no spending cuts are added, and go over the cliff and get it over with. Maybe it will teach a few people(mainly those who re-elected the STOOGE) a lesson in what happens when you walk around in a fog and don’t know what it really going on. It never ceases to amaze me how many apathetic, gullible and naive people there are in the country!
Morality?
January 1st, 2013
7:24 pm
Big Gub’ment big spending SOCIALISTS social programs over a period of many decades is 85% of the problem – mostly promoted by big gub’ment Dems….. let them take the dive – cliff ahead!
tell the truth
January 1st, 2013
7:25 pm
to the cliff repukes- to the cliff
tell the truth
January 1st, 2013
7:27 pm
Dum-Bass that would be you that is the poster boy for those
apathetic, gullible and naive people that vote repuke
Pamela
January 1st, 2013
7:28 pm
Get rid of every GOP that is willing to allow this great country to go into a depression or fiscal cliff again!!! Enough is a enough. Vote those jokers out during the next election. They have demonstrated that they do not care about the people!
Angry White Male
January 1st, 2013
7:28 pm
My wife and My 8 children All took the day off work to vote against Obama. We tried to vote as often as we could but that black police man stopped us the 4th time.
Now That did not work and that Obama rascal is still in office. So what is plan B? Yall white brothers drop by my office at the McDonald’s off exit 2 in Forsyth County hwy 85. I know how to get that varmint out of office. I got the plan B.
Morality?
January 1st, 2013
7:29 pm
People are primarily unemployed because this economy, in all reality, is still in a deep recession. Obama ain’t got no plan to save the economy…… he’s a PARTY LOYALIST 1st and “G D America”…. as his famous Rev’Runt Rat said.
Angry White Male
January 1st, 2013
7:32 pm
And yall wonder why we cling to our guns and bibles… We dont read it, its to stop the bullets when we do one of our mass murders
123
January 1st, 2013
7:33 pm
td the little dudete
you had your @ss handed to you last night o the Bookman blog
123
January 1st, 2013
7:34 pm
Morality
You are consistent that must be said. A consistent myopic little b, but consistent.
honested
January 1st, 2013
7:35 pm
Another day,
Another republican obstructionist loss,
Another pathetic excuse about how it’s the voter’s fault.
Angry White Male # 2
January 1st, 2013
7:35 pm
“The net effect of that vote was a $3.7 trillion reduction in taxes for 99 percent of American taxpayers,”
early to bed
January 1st, 2013
7:37 pm
uh you don’t think it has anything to do with the billions of dollars of cash big business is sitting on on the sidelines, while not retooling, or reinvesting in equipment and new hires?? Perhaps big business could show some leadership and belief in America and begin to reinvest in America? I know that is such crazy idea to think that big business could actually give back some to the country that keeps them in business.
td
January 1st, 2013
7:38 pm
123
January 1st, 2013
7:33 pm
td the little dudete
you had your @ss handed to you last night o the Bookman blog
Only in your wet dreams loser.
Patti Leach
January 1st, 2013
7:40 pm
We need unemployment benefits renewed!
123
January 1st, 2013
7:41 pm
td was smoked
He may as well been fellating the other bloggers
He looked so shallow and weak.
td
January 1st, 2013
7:42 pm
Net result is a $4 trillion increase in spending over the next 10 years. This is nothing but another excuse for the Dems to spend more money.
Bill Campbell
January 1st, 2013
7:42 pm
Any Republican who votes for this garbage will lose his next election! The USA will go the way of Greece id not stopped!
123
January 1st, 2013
7:42 pm
td is in the closet
He likes to fellate alpha males
John Boehner's Tanning Bed
January 1st, 2013
7:44 pm
Before Obama, Repubs never worried about balancing a budget. At least, none of Repub Presidents did.
TommyBlueJay
January 1st, 2013
7:44 pm
Sounds like there are at least a few SANE folks left in Washington.
When you don’t make enough to cover your spending, STOP SPENDING!
Harry Reed
January 1st, 2013
7:45 pm
Obama is the worst President in American History!
123
January 1st, 2013
7:46 pm
td
be good little beta boy
someone will be there to service your mail order wife in a few days
you shallow little puke and punk
td
January 1st, 2013
7:47 pm
“The budget deal passed by the U.S. Senate today would raise taxes on 77.1 percent of U.S. households, mostly because of the expiration of a payroll tax cut, according to preliminary estimates from the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center in Washington.
More than 80 percent of households with incomes between $50,000 and $200,000 would pay higher taxes. Among the households facing higher taxes, the average increase would be $1,635, the policy center said. A 2 percent payroll tax cut, enacted during the economic slowdown, is being allowed to expire as of yesterday.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-01/senate-passed-deal-means-higher-tax-on-77-of-households.html
Dum-Bass
January 1st, 2013
7:48 pm
Here’s O’bummer’s urgent plea to the legislature: “Will you guys please hurry up and get this done so I can get on Air Force One and fly back to Hawaii to join my wife and kids who stayed out there spending the taxpayers money. I raided the money tree out back so I will have lots of cash to take back with me. That way we can spend all we want to without it showing up in an audit. Michelle told me not to come back with less than $1 million, so I know what will happen if I don’t. So get to work guys, nothing else matters. SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, THAT’S MY MOTTO !!!!”
Voter
January 1st, 2013
7:52 pm
For my fellow voters, well said above. Great sarcasm, Dum-Bass and sadly, truth. Let’s go House of Reps. Defeat this bill, get some serious budget and spending cuts.
early to bed
January 1st, 2013
8:00 pm
Voter I hope that your repuke brethren will take it to the cliff- that they will do nothing
But sadly they are too in love with their position in DC and they are cowards to boot- they know what the voters will do to them in 2014 if they go over the cliff- sad but true- no sane person has ever accused them of having ethics nor concern for America
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123
January 1st, 2013
8:09 pm
td
was she here when you met her or did you have to pay to bring her here
Rafe Hollister
January 1st, 2013
8:11 pm
Now is not a good time to raise taxes, the economy is too fragile.
Bush was irresponsible and unpatriotic for running up these huge deficits.
The Bush tax cuts only benefit the wealthiest of the wealthy.
I will have the most transparent administration in history.
What we need is a balanced approach to our deficits, additional revenue to go along with spending cuts.
Was he lying then or is he lying now?
BTW, this deal passed in the house raises taxes on 77% of all households (those who work for a living). So, all you folks who just want to get this passed, so your taxes will not go up, are in for a big surprise.
Rafe Hollister
January 1st, 2013
8:13 pm
Should read– bill passed in the Senate.
Obama sucks
January 1st, 2013
8:22 pm
Black African Americans like this bill.
Ed
January 1st, 2013
8:34 pm
House Republicans balk at cliff deal…….Good ! I am glad I live in Ga where the Republicans stand up for low taxes and they try to cut government growth. Our debt is almost 17 Trillion. We are going to go bankrupt unless this spending stops.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 1st, 2013
8:39 pm
This 123/ satan thing is a real sicko.
Hung Wung Lo
January 1st, 2013
8:42 pm
I Amongst us! – My wife is Asian and she says you can kiss her a$$.
td
January 1st, 2013
8:50 pm
Looks like the Dems have hosed their own voters with this deal because they have allowed the 2% SS payroll tax cut to expire.
td
January 1st, 2013
8:59 pm
“The Senate passed legislation meant to end the “fiscal cliff” crisis in the wee hours of the morning. And it seems Hollywood’s rigorous backing of President Barack Obama and his Democrat peers in the waning months of 2012 paid off.”
Section 317 of the freshly approved legislation includes an extension for “special expensing rules for certain film and television productions.” Congress first enacted production tax incentives favorable to the domestic entertainment industry in 2004, and extended them in 2008, but the deal was meant to expire in 2011.
The fiscal cliff deal extends the tax incentives through 2013–even as payroll taxes rise on ordinary Americans.
The original tax incentive applied to productions costing less than $15 million to make ($20 million in low-income areas). The 2008 extension applies to all films, up to a deduction of $15 million (or $20 million in low-income areas). The incentive is especially generous to television series; it applies to each TV episode.
Hollywood players routinely beg the government to raise their taxes so they can pay their “fair share.”
Yet the industry moves new productions to places where existing tax breaks help its bottom line. That means plenty of shows and films are shot in states like New Mexico, which feature highly favorable tax rates, as well as destinations north of the border with similar perks.
Now Hollywood has used its clout to ensure that its generous tax incentives will continue in a time of fiscal crisis.”
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 1st, 2013
9:45 pm
More than 80 percent of households with incomes between $50,000 and $200,000 would pay higher taxes. Among the households facing higher taxes, the average increase would be $1,635, the policy center said. A 2 percent payroll tax cut, enacted during the economic slowdown, is being allowed to expire as of yesterday.
So much for the top 2% lie.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 1st, 2013
10:27 pm
$430 million for Hollywood through “special expensing rules” to encourage TV and film production in the United States. Producers can expense up to $15 million of costs for their projects.
Your money is used to “encourage” Hollywood?
honested
January 1st, 2013
11:13 pm
At last, a done deal.
Taxes go up, republican hostage takers lose.
Now we can move Forward!
Angry White Male
January 1st, 2013
11:41 pm
Can any body tell me What is plan B?
clem
January 2nd, 2013
7:17 am
the 2% tax cut for ss needed to get cut; unfortunately, it should have gone to lock box