House Republicans balk at cliff deal

U.S. House Republicans emerged from a lengthy caucus meeting this afternoon declaring their opposition to the “fiscal cliff” deal that hastily passed the Senate overnight with an 89-8 vote. After hearing a festivus-style airing of grievances against the deal — struck by Vice President Joe Biden and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell — House leaders are still trying to figure out what to do with it. Many Republicans want to amend it to include more spending cuts.

Brendan Buck, a spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner, said: “The lack of spending cuts in the Senate bill was a universal concern amongst members in today’s meeting. Conversations with members will continue throughout the afternoon on the path forward.”

Lawrenceville Republican Rep. Rob Woodall was walking the halls clutching a report from the Congressional Budget Office that illustrated members’ concerns. According to the nonpartisan CBO, the deal would add $3.97 trillion to budget deficits in the next decade as compared with current law. Current law, of course, includes big tax hikes and spending cuts that lawmakers say they do not want. And the vast majority of that deficit impact ($3.63 trillion) comes in the form of tax cuts that Republicans generally like.

But Republicans want cuts from other programs to offset the impact of the spending provisions, which include extending long-term unemployment, maintaining Medicare reimbursement rates for doctors and putting off the across-the-board “sequester” cuts for two months.

Coweta County Republican Rep. Lynn Westmoreland said he was surprised at how overwhelming the Senate vote was and that he could not support the bill unless it’s changed.

“That was kind of a shock to us that they didn’t stand for some spending cuts, so we’re dealing with that right now,” he said.

Woodall added, “I don’t think there’s anyone in the seventh district of Georgia who wants me to trade away good policy for America in the name of expediency because the Senate has run us up against this deadline.”

House Democrats did not share those misgivings, for the most part, after being wooed by Biden. Atlanta Democratic Rep. David Scott — who like the vice president also spent his childhood in Scranton, Pa. — said Biden “has his own way of presenting things and did a great job.” Scott said he was backing the deal.

“We’ve got the kind of deal that Americans can be proud of because there is a very, very serious hunger among the American people to see Democrats and Republicans come together on something,” he said. “And we’ve got something here.”

For House Republicans looking to tweak the bill and send it back, the Senate is in session but not all senators are in town. Georgia Republican Johnny Isakson slept from 2:45 a.m. to 6:30 a.m., then caught a flight back to Atlanta. Calling from his Cobb County home, where he was preparing to watch the Georgia Bulldogs in the Capital One Bowl, Isakson said it was not hard for him to support the deal, which both he and Georgia Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss voted for.

“The net effect of that vote was a $3.7 trillion reduction in taxes for 99 percent of American taxpayers,” Isakson said.

“There was a lot in it for everybody but the main thing that’s been missed by most of the media … these are all permanent changes. Congress would have to pass an act to change the taxes put in place.”

He had not spoken to his House GOP colleagues, but predicted that they would like it, too.

“They’ll have a lot more time to absorb the final deal than we did and I think as they absorb it they will recognize the value,” Isakson said.

That prediction has not come true so far.

- By Daniel Malloy, Political Insider

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clem

January 1st, 2013
5:07 pm

house repubs need to go tweak themselves

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Rafe Hollister

January 1st, 2013
5:09 pm

Johnny showing how out of touch he really is. Yeah, they like it a bunch John!!! How could you not stand for some fiscal responsibility rather than vote for something that adds almost 4 Trillion to our debt.

the bob.bob

January 1st, 2013
5:13 pm

Any Republican that gets out of line will have to answer to Lord Grover Norquist! Ideological purity and loyalty to The Pledge comes before the good of The Nation.

Ideological extremists will destroy this country. The “Just Say No!” radicals must be thrown out!

jefflz

January 1st, 2013
5:13 pm

We need to mount a nation-wide recall effort to get the Tea Party Taliban out of Congress and let the Republicans return to normalcy. The GOP is being held hostage by a minority of rabid extremists who are funded by a cabal of very rich fascists.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 1st, 2013
5:17 pm

Raining on obozo’s parade?

Awesome.

S Koehn

January 1st, 2013
5:18 pm

Spending is the problem! There is nothing here to significantly reduce spending. We must cut from ACTUAL spending, not projected. The House must amend tthis bill to include real cuts in spending.The tax exemption extensions listed in HR8 read like a list of special interests. Change the rates to reduce taxes.CUT SPENDING increasingly over the next decade. ! WE DO NOT NEED ALL THOSE INCENTIVES FOR CLEAN ENERGY, most of which have gone to failed/ failing enterprises. Space exploration is continuing in the private sector. Prizes offered in the pricate sector are reaping significant new technology. This bill is just kicking the can down the road, yet again.

Curious

January 1st, 2013
5:23 pm

AESOP,

more likely raining on your parade.

Curious

January 1st, 2013
5:26 pm

S Koehn,

who did the R&D to get the space program going?

i remember 7-8 Vanguard rockets blowing up on the launch pad or right after takeoff.

tell the truth

January 1st, 2013
5:26 pm

Aesop’s Fables and other Lib Economic Theories no rain here

your wealthy greedy repukes will get a tax increase finally- ain’t it grand??

td

January 1st, 2013
5:26 pm

Glad to hear that Republican house members actually get it. This is nothing more then a Democratic spending bill. BTW libs, Grover actually supported this bill because it made the tax cuts on the bottom 98% permanent.

“The “fiscal cliff” deal that was designed to save money actually includes $330.3 billion in new spending over the next decade, according to the official estimate the Congressional Budget Office released Tuesday afternoon.

CBO said the bill contains about $25.1 billion in new cuts, but those are swamped by the new spending on extended unemployment benefits for the long-term jobless and other new refundable tax credits that President Obama fought for.

Of those cuts, only $2 billion are scheduled to take effect in 2013.

And CBO also warned that some of the cuts Congress is counting are from programs on which CBO never expected the money to be spent anyway — such as cuts to the Consumer Operated and Oriented Plan, which was part of Mr. Obama’s health care law.

All told, the bill deepens the deficit by nearly $4 trillion over the next decade, when the new tax cuts and spending are combined.

The bill also delays by two months the automatic spending cuts slated to take effect Wednesday, with a promise to reduce spending in the future to cover for them.”

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/jan/1/deficit-fiscal-cliff-bill-actually-spends-330-bill/#ixzz2Gl68L2dK
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Kris

January 1st, 2013
5:26 pm

I would just like to say thank you to the Senate for doing the absolute minimum we expect of you. Thanks for doing your job. Thanks for doing your part to head off another recession as we are barely recovering from the last one. And after skating the edge of national and global economic disaster for the better part of four years, and doing absolutely nothing, thanks for doing your job and backing away from the edge. That is the absolute minimum we could expect of you and you did it. Kudos! Congratulations!
Now let’s see if the House will follow and do the absolute minimum we could expect of them. C’mon House, you can do it. Do YOUR job

Corey

January 1st, 2013
5:28 pm

@Aesop’s Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 1st, 2013
5:17 pm

passed the Senate overnight with an 89-8 vote

Raining on whose parade? I didn’t know that there are 89 democrats in the Senate.

skeeter

January 1st, 2013
5:30 pm

to the cliff repukes to the cliff

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 1st, 2013
5:32 pm

Those “wealthy, greedy repukes ” provide more jobs than obozo and his crack head food stamp showering “green” boondoggles could ever hope to.

So let’s suck them dry and fund some more follies, there you go, genius.

WAW

January 1st, 2013
5:33 pm

The latest news for the Kardashian House of Representatives. We vote NO! What else is reality?

td

January 1st, 2013
5:33 pm

Also Saxby, You might as well announce your retirement because you are going to lose a primary challenge in two years.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 1st, 2013
5:34 pm

I never said Senate Republicans weren’t cowards.

skeeter

January 1st, 2013
5:35 pm

Aesop’s Fables and other Lib Economic Theories He is still the President and you’re still a troglodyte

td

January 1st, 2013
5:35 pm

A few revision to this feel good legislation:

US national revenue: 2,170,000,000,000
Federal Budget: 3,820,000,000,000
New Debt: 1,650,000,000,000
National debt: 14,271,000,000,000
Recent budget cuts: 35,500,000,000

Now let us remove 8 zeros and pretend it is a household budget:

Annual family income: $21,700
Money family spent: $38,200
New debt on the credit card: $16,500
Outstanding balance on the credit card: $142,710
Total household budget cuts so far: $38.50 (now $14)
New revenue coming in this next year (Obama proposed tax increase): $80.00 (now $61)

skeeter

January 1st, 2013
5:36 pm

please repukes please take us over the cliff do it do it

skeeter

January 1st, 2013
5:37 pm

td we read this the first 10 times you posted it

go back to your coloring book

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 1st, 2013
5:39 pm

obozo’s a president like the botulism is a medicine.

Curious

January 1st, 2013
5:41 pm

Aesop,

In all liklehood those “obozo and his crack head food stamp showering “green” boondoggles could ever hope to.” create the most jobs.

Without consumer demand, those “wealthy, greedy repukes ” wouldn’t be able to fall into that category.

td

January 1st, 2013
5:42 pm

skeeter

January 1st, 2013
5:36 pm

please repukes please take us over the cliff do it do it

And tell us what going over the cliff really means?

Tax increases on everyone? Real spending reductions? Better then this sham that is nothing more then a hidden Democratic spending bill. The Republicans can make it their first order of business in a few days to cut all those taxes and restore the defense spending and blame Obama and the Dems for not allowing tax cuts and gutting the military.

stac

January 1st, 2013
5:43 pm

Please don’t tell me there is no room for spending cuts. We do not have a tax problem, we have a government that is out of control and gives to everyone who asks at the tax payers expense. Start cutting out these programs that keep people dependent on the government. Its time people stand up and start taking care of themselves. Lets start with the Obama phone and time on it monthly. Go from there.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

January 1st, 2013
5:46 pm

Curious – Buying blunts at the convenience store is exactly one of the top contributors to the nation’s gross domestic product.

skeeter

January 1st, 2013
5:47 pm

td let’s do it let all the tax increases take effect- every single one of them- on income, payroll. dividends. capital gains, and that fabulous death tax that you all hate so

and let the auto cuts take place that your boys agreed to

let’s give it a go- what do you say???

Steve

January 1st, 2013
5:50 pm

This is nothing more than more rhetoric by the Liberals trying to make themselves out to be bi-partisan.

We want REAL spending cuts. This is not a cut. We are still spending more. It has to stop. Just because many Liberals don’t even pay taxes they think it is perfectly reasonable to just spend all over the place. That is the EXACT same mentality that puts many of them in the need of government assistance in the first place.

td

January 1st, 2013
5:52 pm

skeeter

January 1st, 2013
5:47 pm

It is better then increasing the debt by another $4 trillion over 10 years with this deal. When these taxes go up on everyone else then maybe the American people will start to realize the real problems in spending we have in this country.

Liberty Lady 2

January 1st, 2013
5:52 pm

Jefflz, You have been reading too much liberal propaganda…”the tea party” is not a single political party. It IS a movement with many facets. It is IS supported by many everyday working, unemployed, retired, young, old, independents, vets, etc. etc. who are mostly color-blind, and openhearted, believe in being paid for our work, paying our bills, living within our means, deciding ourselves how to distribute the fruits of our labor, helping those in need, and funding Government only to the exent provided for in our Constitution. which I suggest you study, as well as review the definitions of fascisim, socialism, communisim.

skeeter

January 1st, 2013
5:54 pm

td do it tell your drugstore cowboys to do it

you will have to tell your Ga delegation what to do because they could not find their butt with both hands unless Grover tells them what to do and how to vote

CC

January 1st, 2013
5:59 pm

The House is responding correctly in this matter. Obozo and the dimwits give lip-service to increasing revenue but want astronomical increases in spending. The answer from the House should be a resounding, “No!” Let the taxes and the lay-offs begin! Let’s also start taxing the moochers, too. Taxing of Social Security benefits has been the rule for some time now, so let’s tax the welfare recipients, too.

LET’S TAX EVERYONE!

Rafe Hollister

January 1st, 2013
5:59 pm

How anyone who has one objective brain cell thinks that a 4 Trillion dollar spending bill is what this country needs. We have spent 5 T in the last four years, and what has it got us, four years older and deeper in debt. We owe our soul to the Chinese store.

What happened to the “balanced” approach to reducing the deficit, that Barry promised. He is the bait and switch master, always promising to do something with our fiscal problems, and then is the first to escalate the spending and poke fun at those wishing to cut spending. Dishonest, deceptive, and disingenuous, but the Libs and lapdog media love him. The end justifies the means for them, I suppose.

clem

January 1st, 2013
6:02 pm

tparty crowd, not to swift, dick armey fleeced them for a big chute

VA/DC/MD

January 1st, 2013
6:03 pm

Eric just wants yet another 15

Real Athens

January 1st, 2013
6:04 pm

“According to the nonpartisan CBO, the deal would add $3.97 trillion to budget deficits in the next decade as compared with current law … the vast majority of that deficit impact ($3.63 trillion) comes in the form of tax cuts that Republicans generally like.”

Does anyone read before they comment? I thought conservative were for tax cuts?

This whole stand off is about one party “winning” in the eyes of voters. As a result, we all lose.

Real Athens

January 1st, 2013
6:07 pm

LL Deuce:

” .. I suggest you study, as well as review the definitions of fascisim, socialism, communisim.”

I suggest you learn the differences; because there are many. While you’re at it, learn to spell them too.

Kris

January 1st, 2013
6:07 pm

Corey “ Raining on whose parade? I didn’t know that there are 89 democrats in the Senate.”

Now we need another 89 Democrats to replace 89 GOP slime balls that will not do their job.

td

January 1st, 2013
6:09 pm

Real Athens

January 1st, 2013
6:04 pm

And where is your link to the article you are quoting?

cdawg

January 1st, 2013
6:10 pm

Way to go guys. Continue to fight among yourselves while the rest of the nation goes to pot. Get real. Think about what you are doing and pass this measure before you send us into another recession or worse a depression. Work together as you would if you were in business. There is no other option……

Chris

January 1st, 2013
6:10 pm

We have a bunch of overpaid politicians deciding each of our fate who have lost touch with the reality of what it is to be a 30-60k a year American. They are playing russian roulett with our lives, our children and our country. Congress gets a raise Mr. President, yet our Country gets trust into a Recession due to your inability to lead…. shameful. Just another reason why we should have term limits on all our political offices. So the individuals leading our country never have a chance to forget what it is like as a Average Joe and never take us all for granted again.

clem

January 1st, 2013
6:12 pm

if market tanks because of these theatrics, what does that say about the market?

Pete

January 1st, 2013
6:17 pm

The problem in the House is as follows: the district lines have been so gerrymandered that these GOP radicals in the House will continue to be re-elected no matter how much damage they do to the country. The GOP will be blamed for this but it doesn’t matter. The same clowns will continue to be elected.

td

January 1st, 2013
6:19 pm

ITLE I—GENERAL EXTENSIONS
Subtitle A—Tax Relief
Sec. 101. Permanent extension and modification of 2001 tax relief.
Sec. 102. Permanent extension and modification of 2003 tax relief.
Sec. 103. Extension of 2009 tax relief.
Sec. 104. Permanent alternative minimum tax relief.

Only part of the bill that is good and the reason Grover supported it.

TITLE II—INDIVIDUAL TAX EXTENDERS
Sec. 201. Extension of deduction for certain expenses of elementary and secondary school teachers.

Teachers union payoff not needed

Sec. 202. Extension of exclusion from gross income of discharge of qualified principal residence indebtedness.
Special interest tax cut not needed.

Sec. 203. Extension of parity for exclusion from income for employer-provided mass transit and parking benefits.

Payoff to Dem cities not needed

Sec. 204. Extension of mortgage insurance premiums treated as qualified residence interest.

You should not be able to write off PMI as an interest deduction. Put 20% down on a house.

Sec. 205. Extension of deduction of State and local general sales taxes.

Only works in high tax Dem states not needed.

Sec. 206. Extension of special rule for contributions of capital gain real property made for conservation purposes.
Special interest tax cut not needed.

Sec. 207. Extension of above-the-line deduction for qualified tuition and related expenses.
Special interest not needed

Sec. 208. Extension of tax-free distributions from individual retirement plans for charitable purposes.
Special interest not needed

Sec. 209. Improve and make permanent the provision authorizing the Internal Revenue Service to disclose certain return and return information to certain prison officials.

td

January 1st, 2013
6:21 pm

TITLE III—BUSINESS TAX EXTENDERS
Sec. 301. Extension and modification of research credit.
Sec. 302. Extension of temporary minimum low-income tax credit rate for nonfederally subsidized new buildings.
Sec. 303. Extension of housing allowance exclusion for determining area median gross income for qualified residential rental project exempt facility bonds.
Sec. 304. Extension of Indian employment tax credit.
Sec. 305. Extension of new markets tax credit.
Sec. 306. Extension of railroad track maintenance credit.
Sec. 307. Extension of mine rescue team training credit.
Sec. 308. Extension of employer wage credit for employees who are active duty members of the uniformed services.
Sec. 309. Extension of work opportunity tax credit.
Sec. 310. Extension of qualified zone academy bonds.
Sec. 311. Extension of 15-year straight-line cost recovery for qualified leasehold improvements, qualified restaurant buildings and improvements, and qualified retail improvements.
Sec. 312. Extension of 7-year recovery period for motorsports entertainment complexes.
Sec. 313. Extension of accelerated depreciation for business property on an Indian reservation.
Sec. 314. Extension of enhanced charitable deduction for contributions of food inventory.
Sec. 315. Extension of increased expensing limitations and treatment of certain real property as section 179 property.
Sec. 316. Extension of election to expense mine safety equipment.
Sec. 317. Extension of special expensing rules for certain film and television productions.
Sec. 318. Extension of deduction allowable with respect to income attributable to domestic production activities in Puerto Rico.
Sec. 319. Extension of modification of tax treatment of certain payments to controlling exempt organizations.
Sec. 320. Extension of treatment of certain dividends of regulated investment companies.
Sec. 321. Extension of RIC qualified investment entity treatment under FIRPTA.
Sec. 322. Extension of subpart F exception for active financing income.
Sec. 323. Extension of look-thru treatment of payments between related controlled foreign corporations under foreign personal holding company rules.
Sec. 324. Extension of temporary exclusion of 100 percent of gain on certain small business stock.
Sec. 325. Extension of basis adjustment to stock of S corporations making charitable contributions of property.
Sec. 326. Extension of reduction in S-corporation recognition period for builtin gains tax.
Sec. 327. Extension of empowerment zone tax incentives.
Sec. 328. Extension of tax-exempt financing for New York Liberty Zone.
Sec. 329. Extension of temporary increase in limit on cover over of rum excise taxes to Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands.
Sec. 330. Modification and extension of American Samoa economic development credit.
Sec. 331. Extension and modification of bonus depreciation.

All of them for special interest payoffs, not needed

td

January 1st, 2013
6:23 pm

TITLE IV—ENERGY TAX EXTENDERS
Sec. 401. Extension of credit for energy-efficient existing homes.
Sec. 402. Extension of credit for alternative fuel vehicle refueling property.
Sec. 403. Extension of credit for 2- or 3-wheeled plug-in electric vehicles.
Sec. 404. Extension and modification of cellulosic biofuel producer credit.
Sec. 405. Extension of incentives for biodiesel and renewable diesel.
Sec. 406. Extension of production credit for Indian coal facilities placed in service before 2009.
Sec. 407. Extension and modification of credits with respect to facilities producing energy from certain renewable resources.
Sec. 408. Extension of credit for energy-efficient new homes.
Sec. 409. Extension of credit for energy-efficient appliances.
Sec. 410. Extension and modification of special allowance for cellulosic biofuel plant property.
Sec. 411. Extension of special rule for sales or dispositions to implement FERC or State electric restructuring policy for qualified electric utilities.
Sec. 412. Extension of alternative fuels excise tax credits.

Huge waste of money and more payoffs for Obama supporters.

Keep doing this GOP

January 1st, 2013
6:24 pm

Keep on doing this GOP, you got your butt whipped in the last election.

Not a single democrat that was up for re-election lost, not a single one.

Come 2014, they will get their but whipped again, even with jerrymandering

Why? Because of what is happening today.

td

January 1st, 2013
6:24 pm

TITLE V—UNEMPLOYMENT
Sec. 501. Extension of emergency unemployment compensation program.
Sec. 502. Temporary extension of extended benefit provisions.
Sec. 503. Extension of funding for reemployment services and reemployment and eligibility assessment activities.
Sec. 504. Additional extended unemployment benefits under the Railroad Unemployment Insurance Act.

How long are we going to continue to pay people to sit on their but and not find a job? It has been almost 4 years now.

td

January 1st, 2013
6:26 pm

TITLE VI—MEDICARE AND OTHER HEALTH EXTENSIONS
Subtitle A—Medicare Extensions
Sec. 601. Medicare physician payment update.
Sec. 602. Work geographic adjustment.
Sec. 603. Payment for outpatient therapy services.
Sec. 604. Ambulance add-on payments.
Sec. 605. Extension of Medicare inpatient hospital payment adjustment for lowvolume hospitals.
Sec. 606. Extension of the Medicare-dependent hospital (MDH) program.
Sec. 607. Extension for specialized Medicare Advantage plans for special needs individuals.
Sec. 608. Extension of Medicare reasonable cost contracts.
Sec. 609. Performance improvement.
Sec. 610. Extension of funding outreach and assistance for low-income programs.

Should be a different bill.