Boehner whipping Georgians on ‘Plan B’

As Georgia Republican Reps. Phil Gingrey, Jack Kingston and Paul Broun sat together on the House floor during a vote this evening, House Speaker John Boehner plopped down in the row behind them and gave them an earful. Boehner, viewed by this reporter through a door a few yards away, appeared pretty intense.

House Speaker John Boehner in June (J. Scott Applewhite/AP)

John Boehner in June (J. Scott Applewhite/AP)

Gingrey said the Speaker was making “strong arguments” in favor of his “Plan B” on the fiscal cliff negotiations — a floor vote tentatively scheduled for Thursday to maintain the marginal income tax rates for earnings $1 million and less, as well as the estate tax rates.

“The Speaker feels very, very confident if we don’t do this it’s going to end up at the 250 mark [raising taxes on income above $250,000]. … He said that’s what his great fear is,” Gingrey said.

Still, the Republican from Marietta is unsure about voting effectively to allow some taxes to rise. “My powder’s dry,” Gingrey said.

Several Republican members of the delegation are undecided, waiting out what package gets to the floor. In interviews this afternoon, Reps. Tom Graves of Ranger, Austin Scott of Tifton and Rob Woodall from Lawrenceville were in wait-and-see mode.

Broun, in an interview prior to the Boehner encounter, was firmer in his opposition and floated a “Plan C.” He said the idea had been bouncing among several conservative members to try to force a vote on extending all the tax rates, combined with spending cuts that had previously passed the House to replace the across-the-board “sequestration” cuts.

“Hopefully, we’ll have that opportunity,” said Broun, of Athens.

House leaders are still considering squashing the $1 million vote, if they can’t whip up sufficient support, or adding in some spending cuts to sweeten it for their skeptical members. It does not correlate with the discussed “grand bargain” between Boehner and President Barack Obama, but is a test for Boehner on whether he can keep his caucus together and establish a House Republican line in these negotiations. It also would throw pressure over to the Senate to act on a fallback plan if talks fail. The Senate passed an extension of marginal rates on income $250,000 and under in the fall.

A big question is whether extending some, but not all, of the tax rates qualifies as voting for a tax increase. The conservative advocacy crowd is split on this: Grover Norquist’s Americans for Tax Reform says it’s not a tax hike; Heritage Action for America and the Club For Growth say it is.

Coweta County Republican Rep. Lynn Westmoreland said he’s a “no” on Plan B, mostly because it does not include spending cuts. He was not so quick to label it a tax hike — perhaps out of deference to some of his wavering delegation mates.

“I’m not going to say it’s a tax increase,” Westmoreland said. “It’s a tax deferment. We’re deferring our taxes to our kids and our grandkids.”

- By Daniel Malloy, Political Insider

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34 comments Add your comment

Village Idiot

December 19th, 2012
7:49 pm

What do you expect from these guys? They are hell bent on giving our country away to millionaires. The worst part is that their constituents are primarily part of the 49% that the GOP disdains.

Kris

December 19th, 2012
7:55 pm

Gingrey, Kingston and Broun…As about as spineless as you can possibly get.
Was Boehner talking or crying?
I hope these clowns are in the GOP clown car when we go off the fiscal CLIFF

Native Atl

December 19th, 2012
8:03 pm

Hate the idea of any tax increase but Republicans need to learn to fight fire with fire and play the PR game better. If the Speaker is going to offer a plan with any tax hikes he should play the same game the Democrats did when they insisted the Bush tax cuts sunset after so many years. He should not only include specific spending cuts (since out of control spending is the actual problem) he should also include a provision that any tax hikes expire after x number of years and then shout from the highest mountain top that he is increasing taxes on the millonaires and billionaires just as the President wants and has droned on about for years. Throw it in the President and Harry Reid’s lap and dare them to go along. Whether they agree or don’t they will own the results.

clem

December 19th, 2012
8:11 pm

the repubs are pretty good at getting the goobers to protect all but the top .19%…..or as bush would say, their base.

Rafe Hollister

December 19th, 2012
8:27 pm

With Obama, class warfare and redistribution of wealth, trump economic growth. Pass Plan B and go home Boehner. Let Barry explain why the Pelosi/Schumer plan is not good enough anymore and middle class taxes will just have to go up.

He should have no problem allowing the tax cuts to expire, as he told us previously they only benefited the wealthy, anyway.

WAW

December 19th, 2012
8:36 pm

The cliff has Republican written all over it. It came about because of the Republican determination to have a “failed” Obama. They refused to raise taxes on the rich and kicked the can down the road toward the cliff. They set this date so that it would after the elections and their winning Romney would “save the day”. Joke on Republicans! Now Boehner & Co. have no wiggle room left. This is the real Republican choice – call up SB-3412 for an up or down vote – or go off the Republican cliff. Ever heard of READ MY LIPS. Having to raise taxes of their owners is a Republican tradition.

Makemyday

December 19th, 2012
8:42 pm

Listen, passing a Plan, any Plan sometimes is a BAD Idea.(Congress is notorious for doing it!) Lock it down. Boehner is going to get run out of the Republican Party if he pushes this down our throats. O only got 51 percent of the popular vote. Certainly not a Mandate as he is acting like. Pass on any Plan this year and start again next year. We will survive.

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clem

December 19th, 2012
9:11 pm

hey rafe, guys at top are making out like bandits compared to middle america. things have gotten really out of wack since st. ronnie.

Native Atl

December 19th, 2012
9:30 pm

Makemyday, normally I’d agree with you and I vaguely recall some Will Rogers quote about the only difference between death and taxes is that death doesn’t get worse when congress meets. So, yes, congress is notorious for screwing things up. But in this case if the Repubs don’t do anything then the President, dirty Harry and the MSM will just continue to blame everything on Repubs and the Tea Party….but if we call their bluff with a plan that actually cuts spending and sunsets any tax increases….then we’ll have an argument that we gave the President what he’s blathered on about, “millionaires and billionaires need to pay their fair share”…..and he refused. I’m betting that he won’t sign it ’cause he WANTS taxes to go up on anyone and everyone that still pays them. He doesn’t WANT to sign a bill….he WANTS the fiscal cliff but he also wants to blame it on the Repubs. He’ll still try to blame us of course…but if our wimp leaders can learn to play the PR battle they’ll at least have some ammunition in their pocket if they pass something that fits his own stupid rhetoric about ‘fair share’. At least then maybe some of the brain dead people in this country might wake up to see what a fraud and hypocrite this President is when we basically gave him what he wants and he wouldn’t agree. If he does agree we all know that the tax increases aren’t going to solve the problem but he’ll still have to own it ’cause we did what he wanted. Either way it makes it harder, admittedly not impossible, for him to shirk the blame. Home Depot’s Ken Langone said the Speaker’s plan was a good idea ’cause it “takes the tax issue off the table”….which I interpret as taking away the President’s own argument. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/home-depot-co-founder-raise-my-taxes-go-right-ahead-you-get-nothing-out-of-it/

Road Scholar

December 19th, 2012
10:22 pm

If the repubs in the house pass their plan Mr President, counter with your plan with cuts to the house health insurance (let them buy their own on the open market), cuts to their private health club, and cuts to their travel budgets. Enough is enough. Boehmer, who elected you president?…….. NO ONE!

Athens Independent

December 19th, 2012
10:56 pm

Broun is an embarrassment to me living here in Athens. Maybe the wackiest of all republicans. A complete idiot. He is one of the reasons I am Independent now instead of a republican. The far right and far left have killed each party. Bring back the Alan Simpson”s – please !!

td

December 19th, 2012
11:36 pm

Road Scholar

December 19th, 2012
10:22 pm

If the repubs in the house pass their plan Mr President, counter with your plan with cuts to the house health insurance (let them buy their own on the open market), cuts to their private health club, and cuts to their travel budgets. Enough is enough. Boehmer, who elected you president?…….. NO ONE!

We do not live in a dictatorship. The President only heads the executive branch. The people decided to give him 4 more years but they also decided to keep the Republicans in charge of the House. It is called compromise.

CC

December 20th, 2012
12:00 am

“They are hell bent on giving our country away to millionaires.”

As opposed to giving it away to freeloaders?

Jack ®

December 20th, 2012
5:46 am

If President Bush’s tax cuts expire, my taxes will go up $4K and I’m sure as hell not a millionaire. Spending cuts for parasites are what’s needed.

Travis McGee

December 20th, 2012
6:25 am

The Republicans have come up with a two-prong program for victory: !. Change the Electoral College process, and 2. get all the fools on your side and you can be elected to anything.

I would suggest a more complicated, but realistic approach: quit running iddiots! And, Georgia has quit a few, including Broun, who embarrass themselves, the state, the country and the entire human race with their stupidity.

clem

December 20th, 2012
7:20 am

as noted above the house is controlled by repubs and senate by dems and the exec branch by dems so compromise should be tilted to the majority ie the dems. common sense says that people voted for prez who ran on the tax issue. additionally dems gained seats in house where gerrymandering protects the repubs. if memory serves dems won more house votes than repubs. remember georgie w who said he had mandate, he had political capital after winning in 2004?

Capitol Idea

December 20th, 2012
7:48 am

Maybe it’s something in the fertilizer that we use to grow Republicans.

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curious

December 20th, 2012
8:25 am

What’s the problem?

The Republicans voted for the fiscal cliff plan. Everybody will have to contribute. It may be just what we need to get this country back on track.

Mike

December 20th, 2012
8:49 am

The “fiscal cliff” is imaginary people. It’s all smoke and mirrors. Raising rates back to 2000 levels for everybody is the only way to have any affect on our dire financial situation. Raising taxes on this hated 1%, who already pay at a rate higher than everyone else, will not raise enough extra money to matter. It’s all about dividing people. If you haven’t noticed, Obama tries to divide in nearly every situation he engages himself in. It’s the “underdog” approach adopted by the millionaire democrats.

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follow the money

December 20th, 2012
10:07 am

I would argue that Georgia has its share of idiots on the Dem side too. Hank Johnson comes to mind immediately!

Also, gerrymandering works both ways. I went to the polls to vote against David Scott in 2008 and 2010. Low and behold, in 2012, he is no longer in my district. Hmmm, i live at the same address, yet his district changed so that he could maintain his district. FYI, my motivation to vote him out was birthed by his co-sponsorship of the bill that banned internet gambling (mainly online poker).

This time around, I voted against the GOP incumbent that was newly assigned to my district. The incumbents all needed to go.

Wake up hypocritical liberals. The problem is not only the republicans, it is the two party system. WAKE UP!

WOW

December 20th, 2012
10:45 am

Who cares how they vote on Plan B, its not going anywhere. Its a show vote, more wasting of time by the House.

james

December 20th, 2012
10:53 am

I hope we go over the cliff. Tired of all the BS from the media,
dems and repubs!

Its our fault we keep electing the same idiots to represent us in
DC…. maybe we should look in the mirror cause its our own fault…
at least the ones of us that voted in November….

Merry Christmas everyone….

BARON DEKALB

December 20th, 2012
11:03 am

The Republican / Conservative position as expressed by posters on this blog is typically selfish and hypocritical. They complain that they don’t want their taxes to go up, then they say that they “hope we go over the cliff,” which will cost ALL of us. They prefer to see the whole ship go down than to pony up their share of what it costs to run a society.

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BARON DEKALB

December 20th, 2012
11:10 am

“The problem is not only the republicans, it is the two party system”

Well, I guess the problem is solved, at least in Georgia… we don’t have a two party system down here anymore. If you “follow the money” it will lead you straight to the door of the corrupt, morally bankrupt Republican establishment.

On My Way

December 20th, 2012
11:19 am

“Spending cuts for parasites are what’s needed.” Please specify and name the parasites. We are waiting to balance the budget.

honested

December 20th, 2012
11:25 am

I look forward to no deal (not meaning the Governor in this case).

On after January 1st, the hostage takers will be disarmed and maybe we can get back to a functional government and a functional economy.

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follow the money

December 20th, 2012
11:41 am

baron: Sorry that I said something bad about your “team”. Don’t deflect. There are many problems within both parties. If you cannot look in the mirror and honestly assess the problems within the democrat party, then you are lying to yourself. No budget since 2009. wtf! do you live with no budget? I do not and would bet that you do not either.

I am no fan of the georgia legislature either. At least they did allow us to vote on sunday alcohol sales. That is about it though. The 400 toll is a black eye that Deal will live with forever. The stadium deal is pure corruption imo.

All of you that toe party line on every issue are nothing but sheeple.

BARON DEKALB

December 20th, 2012
1:48 pm

The Dems aren’t really my “team,” and I’ll be the first to admit their shortcomings. If we had a Democratic Socialist party here, or if the Libertarians would give But I can’t endorse any sort of blanket statement about “all of them” or “the two party system” being responsible for the current dismal state of affairs. It’s not “the system” or “incumbents”–it’s us, the ill-informed and reactionary electorate of the United States. But as far as where exactly to pin the blame, all I can say is that to me, the fact that the political center has been moving rightwards for the last 30 years in this country is at the root of many of our current problems.

BARON DEKALB

December 20th, 2012
1:50 pm

meant to say if the Libertarians would give an equal amount of attention and effort towards the non-economic, non-firearms oriented aspects of their platform, I might vote for them instead.