Grover Norquist’s reply to Saxby Chambliss: ‘His promise wasn’t to me’

So it looks like we have a renewal of last year’s sniping between U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss and Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform and originator of the no-tax-increase pledge that many Republicans – Chambliss among them – say will only aggravate a $16 trillion federal deficit.

Given the dearth of news on Thanksgiving Day, Chambliss’ comments on Norquist and his pledge, made to WMAZ in Macon, drew an inordinate amount of attention. Said Chambliss:

“I care more about my country than I do about a 20-year-old pledge. If we do it his way then we’ll continue in debt, and I just have a disagreement with him about that.”

That kind of rebellious chatter could have an impact on negotiations between President Barack Obama and congressional Republicans that are set to begin in earnest on Monday. Late Friday, Norquist sent us this lengthy response:

Senator Chambliss promised the people of Georgia he would go to Washington and reform government rather than raise taxes to pay for bigger government. He made that commitment in writing to the people of Georgia.

If he plans to vote for higher taxes to pay for Obama-sized government he should address the people of Georgia and let them know that he plans to break his promise to them.

The Senator’s reference to me is odd. His promise is to the people of Georgia.

In February 2011 he wrote an open letter addressed to me when he joined the Gang of Six saying he would not vote for any plan that raised taxes. He would support only tax revenue that resulted from higher growth.

That was a public letter he and co-signers Oklahoma Senator Tom Coburn and Idaho Senator Mike Crapo sent to the press to explain their negotiating position as they joined the Gang of Six in early 2011:
Note this excerpt, the final sentence of the letter:

“If and when there is a legislative proposal to be presented to Congress and the American people, we look forward to again working with you and all interested parties to support a proposal where any increase in revenue generation will be the result of the pro-growth effects of lower individual and corporate tax rates for all Americans.”

That is certainly a position I support and the only “plan” that I have endorsed is the Paul Ryan budget that brings the budget to balance and pays down the debt without any tax hikes.

Sen. Chambliss voted for the Ryan plan. I miss his point in trying to attack me.

Raising taxes on the people of Georgia to pay for Obama’s reckless spending is not the right thing to do for America or Georgia. We have a problem because Washington spends too much, not because Sen. Chambliss has failed so far to raise taxes on the hard-working men and women of Georgia.

Sen. Chambliss mentions his fear of losing a primary if he breaks his word to Georgians and votes to raise their taxes. History reminds us that when President George H.W. Bush raised taxes in a deal that promised (and did not deliver) spending cuts he was defeated not in the primary, but in the general.

When Democrat Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska violated his pledge to the American people, he would’ve won a primary battle. But he withdrew because polling showed he could not win a general election having both lied to his state and raised their taxes.

I would urge all Senators to oppose Obama’s budget that raises taxes on the American people and sets the stage for larger taxes in the future on energy that will hit all Americans and raise the cost of living while reducing the number and quality of jobs in America.

I hope and trust that Senator Chambliss will keep his promise to Georgia and not raise taxes on the people of Georgia.

To be fair, in the WMAZ interview, Chambliss didn’t express “his fear” of losing a primary should he discard Norquist’s pledge. But he acknowledged that such an action would likely enlist Norquist on the side of a primary challenger in 2014.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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192 comments Add your comment

Bob Loblaw

November 24th, 2012
10:17 am

You miss his point, Grover? The point is that us conservatives that can think understand that we need revenue. We can cut, cut, cut and never get out of this mess. Wars are expensive. Health care costs have soared for decades with nothing done but cuts to doctors and hospitals. The last 15 years have left us with a lot of debt as well as the loss of lots of lives in our military. The time for a budget deal has arrived. Conservatives that believe in common sense will preserve our nation’s solvency and update outdated tax policy.

We are tired of you, Grover. It was cute in 1994 to sign your little pledge but it’s gotten old and you are old. You and the likes of you (Ralph Reed, Karl Rove, Koch. Bros. Social freaks that think a rapist impregnating a woman is a gift from God) are the reason we are losing. It’s time to use our brains and putting on a blindfold to tax policy is not how we’ll get our country out of this mess.

Things change over 20 years, Grover…we hadn’t spend a dime on war resulting from 9/11 and our country has endured the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. Stay away from Georgia. We don’t need you or your stupid, thoughtless politics anymore.

Common Sense

November 24th, 2012
10:30 am

“Sen. Chambliss mentions his fear of losing a primary if he breaks his word to Georgians and votes to raise their taxes.”

If only Chambliss had done something to curtail spending.

This RINO must go. He has not held up the Constitution. He does not reply to his constituents.

Without the Bush tax cuts, which were just a reduction of the Clinton tax increases, we would still have record deficits.

If we want to return to the tax rates of the ’90s. then let’s also roll back the excessive legislation and minimum wage increases we have had since then. To blame only the tax rates is so near sighted that they are in the end, blind as a bat.

M

November 24th, 2012
10:32 am

Stow it, Neckbeard.

marks

November 24th, 2012
10:34 am

I am sad to see people calling themselves conservatives agreeing to tax increases. I would like for them to tell me where is it they ever see the Federal government spend LESS after a tax increase that did result in higher revenues? Look back at the 1920s during a great depression, oh thats right there was not a great depression, the federal government cut spending and tax rates and it resulted in the roaring twenties which saw unprecedented growth. Take a look at governments around the world that cut tax rates and spending or significantly reduce the rate of government growth and notice how they are doing. The Cato Institute have a chart that showed if we limit Federal spending growth to 2.5% annually the budget would be balanced in about 10 years. Increasing taxes always encourage increased spending, doubt me? Look at California.

Mark B

November 24th, 2012
10:34 am

If Senator Chambliss’ first objective is to the country, he would have never been a part of any spending bill passed while George W. Bush was in office. He would have never voted for TARP. He came to us in 2008 pleading with the state of Georgia to send him back during the run off election because he would be the 41 vote against ObamaCare. We listened to him, sent him back and look what it got us. Now, we are talking about another US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT manufactured crisis that once again Senator Chambliss is going to call on the people of the United States to bail THEM out. Saxby Chambliss is a disgrace to the state of Georgia.

Just Nasty & Mean

November 24th, 2012
10:38 am

Saxby is showing his “inside the beltway” logic. the United States does not have a revenue problem. We are the highest taxed countries on the planet–especially corporate taxes.
WE HAVE A SPENDING PROBLEM!

We have forgotten one of the monikers that should ALWAYS precede a tax increase–”CUT SPENDING FIRST”.

Saxby blames decades of overspending for our current fix. Well…….Saxby is part of the problem.

He doesn’t understand economics. He doesn’t understand the problem. And he doesn’t understand Georgians.

Time for this weak-kneed RINO to go.

Weetamoe

November 24th, 2012
10:39 am

Norquist is correct. Chambliss his breaking his promise to the Georgians who voted for him. Norguist has no power at all to appoint, select, impose, or punish. Only Obama has that and his promise to be a uniter has failed miserably–most divisive president in history, and his own words are the evidence. Know what would be fun? A debate between Saxby and stonedorfragged Cleland.

LAW

November 24th, 2012
10:44 am

Common Sense? No, absolutely not.
Nor do you know what you’re talking about.
We DO “still have record deficits.” – Or aren’t you connected to reality? The reason for those deficits is, in large part, Bush’s giveaway of my taxes to his super rich donors and their syncophants so they could play in their Wall Street casinos. The second largest reason is: two wars that Bush started with borrowed Chinese money and then proceeded to lose by the most incompetent military strategy since Pickett’s Charge. Result: National Depression in the US lasting more than five years so far, tens of thousands on young Americans dead for no reason, and a $13 trillion debt burden dumped on the NOT rich – who continue to whine about how tough their lives are while playing with their dancing horses and hiding their money off the shores of the country they love- as long as it’s a free ride for them and them only.

Phil Lunney

November 24th, 2012
10:50 am

Grover is groveling. He feels his ‘power’ slipping away.

Erick Erickson, he formerly from WMAZ radio, started torching Saxby right after he joined the Gang of 6. Erick and his ilk have no desire for an America that works but rather for his ‘voice’ to be heard, like Grover’s.
It is time for leadership and Mr. Chambliss knows that he has lost the Tea Party base so he may as well go ‘all in’ and do what is right for America and his own political survival.
Who knows, Saxby might even earn my vote (I hope my admission does not further damage him as a GOP politician, lol).

deegee

November 24th, 2012
10:54 am

marks, there was a recession in 1920-1921. The top tax rate was raised in 1916 to 77% in order to pay for WWI. The top rate was lowered in 1926 to 25%. The Federal Reserve expanded credit, by setting below market interest rates and low reserve requirements that favored big banks, and the money supply actually increased by about 60% during the time following the recession. By the latter part of the decade “buying on margin” entered the American vocabulary as more and more Americans over-extended themselves to speculate on the soaring stock market and expanding credit. Very few expected the crash that began in 1929, and none suspected it would be so drastic or so prolonged. Sound familiar?

kathy

November 24th, 2012
11:03 am

Boys and Girls, would everyone please open their eyes to the reality of this situation. We could tax the super rich at 95% and our situation would not change…we could cut everything in half and our situation would not change… We do need to compromise…we need to cut spending and make the tax code fair (be honest the tax code is not fair). everyone needs to contribute their fair share…EVERYONE…..Now, everyone who has the honor of serving the American People ..(.a phase I have heard over and over again)..DO YOUR JOB. FIX THIS MESS.

Mr. KnowitAll

November 24th, 2012
11:05 am

LAW–You are repeating democRat talking points to the point you believe them.

Under Bush, lower tax rates provided a growing economy–even after the economic trauma of 9-11-01–an unemployment rate we could only DREAM about under Obama, opportunities for college graduates other than flipping burgers, and a debt that was bad, but containable.

Now we have a debt rate that would make Keynes blush with disbelief. opportunities and career dreams are flushed, a reduced income for 4 successive years–1st time in history,

You call this BETTER?? You must be delusional to ignore the facts smacking you in the wallet.

LAW

November 24th, 2012
11:05 am

Just Mean and Stupid-
The US DOES NOT have the highest taxes; the US is not even close.You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about, though checking is easy enough that even you could (probably) do it.

Income taxes in some Canadian provinces are 50%, for only one example, and that is on top of federal taxes. Top taxes are higher in many European (EU )countries: Belgium (50%); Denmark (55%); (France (41%); (Germany (45%); Iceland (46%); Italy (45%); Norway (54%); Portugal (46%); Spain (52%); Sweden (57%); UK (50%); than in the US (38%). And, each of these countries has a VAT (sales) tax of up to an additional 25%. Makes Romney’s 14% look like chump change, eh chump?

DANG those pesky facts. But you can try to lie again next week. I may not be watching you…

GOB

November 24th, 2012
11:06 am

Bob Loblaw
10:17 am

Love your law blog, man.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

November 24th, 2012
11:07 am

GOP will never learn. Go ahead and back Paul Broun in the primary Grover. Then Georgia will have 1 elephant and 1 donkey in the US Senate.

LAW

November 24th, 2012
11:15 am

Knowitall-
The Bush miracle was a mirage. It collapsed under the weight of it’s own BS within six years. The initial growth was due to the surplus left by Clinton (a Democrat, as you may remember) that Bush wasted like a drunken sailor within two years.
The debt is a hangover of the borrrowing from China to finance rax cuts for the parasite class- the non-productive scammers who prefer to be called investors (in China, in Russia [think Twit Romney]; in Saudi Arabia, etc.). But go ahead and confinue to parrot Republican lies. I don’t mind; it gives those of us who backed a winner a good laugh at your pretrense that we don’t have your number.

Jim Frankland

November 24th, 2012
11:18 am

Well I hope the good people of Georgia look at his decisions very closely and if needed look for a REPLACEMENT in two years. This is why career politicians need replacing! They get tied up in GOVERNMENT and don’t care about the people anymore (coming from a state where we know a lying traitor when we see one [Nelson]) . Sure, “care about the country” sounds good, but now he’s going to perpetuate the problem. LETS BE BLUNT AND HONEST. You ask ANY Republican or any businesses man about taxes, sure up front they say NO. But the reality is, we are not totally against it, given the RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES. Here it is. 1.) Balance the budget*, and have honest, moral, men in government who WILL keep their hands out of the cookie jar. 2.) Then and ONLY THEN raise taxes with a iron clad sunset clause — the goal being to right the country by paying down the debt. When the debt is paid off, the taxes immediately cease. Middle of the year or not. (*) and when I say balance the budget, of course net zero isn’t going to happen, because we have far too many entitlements we promised, but there must be a sustainable plan in place to right the ship. Once a 10 year plan is set in concrete, let me know and we’ll talk about taxes, until then bug off!! I am sick and tired of a Democratic BALANCED approach that is just bull crap! Raise taxes now (guaranteed) for an equal (not proportional) promise of cuts — cuts in a predetermined increase. (ie: we planned to increase the budget of this or that by 10%, but we’re willing to CUT it to 5% increase — NO!!!!! a CUT is a CUT! 80% of what you had LAST YEAR, or FIVE YEARS AGO. AND at the current line in the sand, proportional is a 3 to 1 spending cut to tax raising. [end of rant]

Road Scholar

November 24th, 2012
11:19 am

JN&M:”We are the highest taxed countries on the planet–…”

The US is a country! Not countries. And please provide your data concerning this. I believe LAW just blew your argument out of the water.

As for the spending problem, while it is chump change, let’s discontinue Congress’s health club and health care. Let them see what we are up against. Since Ya”ll want large cuts let’s start with defense. We now spend as much as the next 10 countries in defense spending and have 50% of naval vessels in the world.

MC

November 24th, 2012
11:22 am

We’ll take care of Saxby if he votes to raise taxes. How is it the liberals can’t figure out you can raise taxes on the rich to infinity and it wouldn’t make a dent on the deficit. I don’t get it. If we don’t cut spending, we’ll never get the numbers to match. You do realize if we grew the job market, we would have more people working to pay more taxes. Raising taxes only will not get us out of the mess we are in. Also, the blame Bush for everything sure does get old. The libs have owned Washington now for 6 years. It’s about time you took responsibility for the joke of a government we have now.

Truth-O-Meter

November 24th, 2012
11:26 am

Each state has two senators. I did not vote for either of the sitting senators; however, I am a resident and taxpayer of the state of Georgia and the US. I expect these senators to represent the interests of ALL Georgians and not just those who voted for them. Isn’t that one of the complaints that conservatives have lodged against President Obama?____that he is only interested in giving “stuff” to those who voted for him. (And that is a lie. I know of no one who voted for this president who has quit her/his job because they were promised to be taken care of.) I wish conservatives were as upset about the waste of taxpayers’ dollars to hold more than 30 votes against the ACA only to see each fail and they knew they would. But conservative house members wanted to send a message.

Yes, we need to watch spending. Spending such as TARP that was designed to stabilize the economy should not be lumped in with other spending. Had we not lost 700k jobs a month during Pres. Bush’s last months in office, that would not have been necessary. Sometimes it is necessary to stabilize a patient before the actual treatment to recovery can begin. Our president stabilized the economy. Now it’s time for the real treatment to begin__tax reform, revenue increases, infrastructure projects such as repairing bridges and highways. The voters on Nov. 6th said they wanted to give him that chance.

As our family traveled back home on yesterday, I could not help but notice the blue signs noting the Eisenhower Interstate System. Thank God these current Republicans were not in charge back then; we would all be on a dirt road in our horse and buggy trying to get home in time for work on next Monday morning.

MC

November 24th, 2012
11:28 am

Law, we didn’t have a surplus under Clinton. We have run deficits with our government ever since the beginning of time it seems. We haven’t run a positive cash flow as a government in a long, long time.

hoyamoto

November 24th, 2012
11:30 am

Get real Grover. I’m from Georgia and I support Senator Chambliss’ decision to do the right thing for America and Georgia. You’ve served the purpose of the wealthy and it has been rejected by the American people.

Truth-O-Meter

November 24th, 2012
11:31 am

Road Scholar @ 11:19.
Amen!
Notice the people who want to cut, cut, cut are the ones who really get the perks! Not once have I heard them recommend cutting their benefits. Shortly after the 2010 congress was sworn in some were reportedly irate that they had to wait a few days before they could start using their “guv’ment” insurance program.

Mr. KnowitAll

November 24th, 2012
11:33 am

Good Grief, LAW. Not everyone drinks your slop.

I guess you forgot that DOT.com bubble burst Clintoris handed Bush. Or the disemboweled intelligence service he relegated that caused 9-11 to happen causing immeasurable economic harm, not to speak of the incalculable expense and loss of lives we all endure to defend against it happening again.

So, LAW, if your logic holds on debt on Bush, what do you call the current Chinese debt–at a rate of $1.6TRILLION A YEAR—racked up under the Obama oligarchy? Chump Change?

The master you are blindly following is selling you down the slavery debt tube faster than you can imagine, yet you unconscionably back him like a starved lab rat.

So…What do your democRat talking points have to say about that?

Common Sense

November 24th, 2012
11:41 am

Sorry, Law, your ignorance is showing.

We would have had record deficits NO MATTER WHAT. That is the culture that has been in DC for decades.

The solution from the liberals is always the same. Tax someone else, and tax them more.

And for each dollar of revenue, spend three.

LAW

November 24th, 2012
11:44 am

Knowitall- (NOT)
9/11 was NOT an economic trauma in any way. Seven buildings knocked down or damaged is a hardship for ONE owner-investor landlord- and as Republicans are fond of saying, he had insurance. Economic trauma is quite different.

I have no idea what you’re blithering about with “reduced income for four years in a row”. Incomes have been rising for the last two years thanks to the containment plans and projects executed under Obama’s economic policies and that is reflected(for example) in growth in holiday sales, including this year’s, which is on track to be up 4% YOY.

Ditto: debt rate. What is that?

Love the hyperbole though. The image of Keynes being shocked by a 1% bank rate is laughable. He might have been slightly bemused by the 1000% inflation rate in Europe 65 years ago or even the recent 25% rates in some developing countries.

BTW: My wallet is just fine, thank you. I ignore Glenn Beck’s advice, don’t give money to Republican fund raisers, and that seems to work just fine.

Truth-O-Meter

November 24th, 2012
11:54 am

I do believe I will barf if one more person complains that this president is divisive and failed at being a uniter. It’s like a dishonest spouse that does not want to be married yet refuses to join in building a working relationship and blames the other for the failure of the marriage. Republicans never had any intentions of working with this president. They admitted it (Mitch McConnell) and why should any sane person believe otherwise.They were literally plotting on his defeat while he had his hand on the Bible taking the oath of office. Some Republicans and some conservatives had a four-year long campaign trying to make him look ineffective. He was not a Christian; he is a Muslim; a fascist; a socialist; had a deep seated hatred for white people. When a party votes against their own plans, there is something going on. Thank God voters can see rise above the noise machine and make decisions based on reality.

LAW

November 24th, 2012
12:03 pm

MC, I believe that you need to connect with reality a bit better.

In 1998, the US budget SURPLUS was $69 billion; in 1999, the US budget SURPLUS was $126 billion; and in 2000, the US budget SURPLUS was $236 billion.

Try to lie to somebody else. I have the facts. All you have is BS..

Common Sense?
Nope, and the truth is alien too you. We did not have deficits when the US enjoyed the benefits of being led by educated Democrats and not by Republican syncophants.

Republicans always try to put across the imbecilic lie that the rich woork harded the less they’re taxed and the middle class works harder the more it’s taxed. If lowering taxes on the rich produced jobs there would never have been a recession after 30 years of Reaganomics. Unfortunately, the old fool’s gypsy fortuneteller was a scammer too.

Dusty

November 24th, 2012
12:08 pm

Hey, cut out the animosity. We need to think through this.

Congress is stuck with competetive action. No party will agree to anything. Chambliss is trying to find a loophole. He is stuck in the midst of a Gordian knot. Congress & the president!!

No, I don’t my taxes raised. I don’t want government directing my heathcare. I don’t want the rich overtaxed. I don’t want businesses waiting to see what healthcare is going to cost. I don’t want 50% of Americans dependant on the government. I want the armed forces of America ready to defend this country.

There are so many do’s & don’ts. I believe Chambliss is trying hard to help this situation. There is NO perfect solution and there is NO one who can find a perfect one. Chambliss has the most experience and does not want to “mess-up” anymore than the rest of us. I believe he is the best to lead us on the lousy path that we must follow at this time.

BushSux

November 24th, 2012
12:12 pm

MC, why can’t we raise the job market now. What is the hold up. You’ve had the Bush tax cuts for 10 years now and still have not created the jobs. All the business class has done is pocket the money ( in a an overseas account) and cry. It is time to put or shut up. Create some of those jobs and lets get that revenue coming in. What are YOU waiting for, some Government guarantee?

LAW

November 24th, 2012
12:12 pm

Knowitall,

How is the dot com bubble related in ANY way to Clinton? Are you on crack?

As for the “disembowelled inrelligence service”, have you ever heard of George Bush, senior, Head of the CIA who turned it into a summer camp for dilliltante Yalies who wanted to paly at being spies? The same guy who trained Bin Laden and ran Mohamar Quaddhfi as his personal paymaster?

Clinton gave Bush junior (the younger nitwit) a detailed briefing on the risks of bin Laden titled Who Becomes a Terrorist and Why that specifically described the use of planes to destroy buildings. (It is a CIA research paper that has been declassiffied.) Halfwit Bush was too busy trying to scam America into tax cuts for his rick buddies to take the time to read it. 9/11 is entirely the Bush family’s fault.

But, go ahead and try to lie to me about something else. Your ignorance is not going to help you.

Sonner LeCloche

November 24th, 2012
12:33 pm

You people would all prefer Strom Thurmond and a new Confederacy. Go ahead and secede; you were never ever real Americans anyway. We’ll take all non-whites and our military resources, build a 50ft wall along the Mason-Dixon line then nuke you. The world will be a better place.

rightwing troll

November 24th, 2012
12:54 pm

The grand Irony here is the fact that the folks that lied and cooked the books on Iraq, and on wall street are all walking away from their messes richer for their efforts and free as birds, while we are all stuck with the tab… and you wingnuts who voted for them and the policies that allowed all of this to happen continue to scream HARDER… FASTER… your bills are due wingnuts, time to pay them. The millionaires and billionaires you lionize and protect have racked it in hand over fist yet they have produced no jobs, just squeezed the actual producers who make them their money more and more, all the while they’ve stood their screaming HARDER… FASTER…

Dennys and Papa Johns will never again see a dime of my hard earned money. Papa John can just content himself with living in a 30 gazillion sq/ft mansion instead of the 40 gazilion sq/ft mansion he currently lives in…

Common Sense

November 24th, 2012
12:56 pm

“n 1998, the US budget SURPLUS was $69 billion; in 1999, the US budget SURPLUS was $126 billion; and in 2000, the US budget SURPLUS was $236 billion.”

There was never a surplus. The total budget deficit did not decline in the years you stated. This is another democratic myth.

Common Sense

November 24th, 2012
12:57 pm

Strom Thurmond was a democrat.

rightwing troll

November 24th, 2012
12:59 pm

Meanwhile a vast majority of the old, fat, white vocal wingnuts dodder out to their mailboxes monthly to collect their gubbimint checks… of course they suffer from TGCDC (That Gubbimint Check Don’t Count)….

rightwing troll

November 24th, 2012
1:00 pm

Strom Thurmond was a Dixiecrat who followed the KKK when they went over to the Republican Party… nice try though…

Just Saying..

November 24th, 2012
1:09 pm

If Grover wasn’t a party to the promise, why does he feel a need to respond?

rightwing troll

November 24th, 2012
1:14 pm

Grover was the arm twister who forced the signing of these promises under duress…

Thankfully this year’s election was decided by a millions of people giving a few dollars apiece instead of a few people giving millions of dollars apiece… thus reducing the Grover’s leverage and source of power.

clem

November 24th, 2012
1:15 pm

bush was an idiot, gave tax breaks to folks who bought gas guzzlers.

rightwing troll

November 24th, 2012
1:15 pm

Before Faux news kicks off the war… I would like to wish you all a Merry Christmas…

Shame on Saxby

November 24th, 2012
1:18 pm

I am a republican who believes that there should be room in the GOP’s big tent for many viewpoints. I don’t vote on social issues and RINO is not an insult in my book. I will vote for a conservative republican or socially liberal republican equally, so long as the candidate in question is fiscally responsible. That is where I believe a politician’s duty rests. I will not vote for a fiscally liberal republican. Grover Norquist is the best kind of taxpayer advocate. He keeps his social viewpoints to himself and limits his advocacy to helping individuals and families keep more of their paycheck. If Senator Chambliss wants to attack someone, it should be Barack Obama. If Senator Chambliss wants to attack something, it should be Washington, D.C.’s spending. If Senator Chambliss can’t get this right, he fully deserves to be nicknamed “Senator Shambles” and to be voted out of office.

Bob Loblaw

November 24th, 2012
2:05 pm

@ shame on saxby:

Grover Norquist is no taxpayer advocate if he isn’t wise enough to know that a change in tax policy is not always a tax increase. He doesn’t know the difference. He’s also at war with GA Republicans on the state level, telling them basically to “be nice” to the federal government because it’s broke and cut the amount of money GA draws from the feds for Medicaid. He’s a DC guy and as long as you’re looking up there for tax advice, you’re going to be mislead.

Bob Loblaw

November 24th, 2012
2:06 pm

*misled. And I’ll take the opportunity of this correction to say that Grover is misleading you.

Just Saying..

November 24th, 2012
2:08 pm

Shame on Saxby:

You propose a big tent of many viewpoints, except those viewpoints you disagree with.
The result is a big tent with lots of room, as those voters with different economic opinions (yes, there’s more that one theory concerning macro economics) get kicked out. Do you wonder why the number of voters in your tent continues to decrease? That’s not economics; That’s just math…

jd

November 24th, 2012
2:15 pm

How many times has Grover lobbied the Georgia Legislature? and He isn’t registered as a lobbyist — Book ‘em Dano!

Shame on Saxby

November 24th, 2012
2:37 pm

@ Just Sayin: Saxby Chambliss has been on office for 10 years. If the government had acted responsibly during the past 10 years, we would not be in this mess. Excusing Senator Chambliss and his colleagues for their malfeasance is irresponsible enough. Rewarding them for their incompetence by allowing them to pick the pockets of the American people is wholly unacceptable. If you want to lecture someone about macro economics, please direct your comments to the incompetents in Washington who created the problem in the first place.

Susan

November 24th, 2012
3:00 pm

Our members of Congress owe nothing to Grover Norquist and his ilk. They are responsible to the citizens of our country, not the equivalent of a domestic terrorist who seeks to have the country run HIS way and not the way that is actually best. I strongly support Senator Chambliss and his stance as the actions of an adult and not a spoiled brat. As a life-long Democrat I am thrilled to call him my Senator and will continue to support his actions which recognize we are a country with many solutions to our problems and everyone can either be part of the solution or part of the problem. Grover, you are part of the problem.l

MysteryMoves

November 24th, 2012
3:03 pm

I’m looking forward to fiscal cliff…

Dr. Socrates

November 24th, 2012
3:03 pm

A true conservative, Grover Norquist is not. Republicans have degenerated into a party of religious fanatics and “no tax at any cost” disciples. The problem a true conservative must face is CUTTING SPENDING. neither Democrats nor Republicans want to cut spending. Hence, the debacle of sequestration doing it for them. I’m not so sure sequestration is such a bad idea. The fact is that virtually every department of government needs drastic cuts, including Defense. A true conservative would go down a list a cross out with red ink every non-productive, costly government program, including Medicare and war expenses without catering to the special interests. The issue of raising taxes is moot if spending is cut FIRST. The Republican Party has to be reformed to understand this novel concept.