A White House petition to allow Georgia’s peaceful withdrawal from Union
We’ve entered the period for thoughtful responses to last week’s woodshedding of the Republican party in the presidential sweepstakes.
In the take-my-ball-and-go-home category, we have the news that 20 petitions have been lodged with the White House website, seeking the peaceful withdrawal of certain states from the Union. Georgia, of course, is among them.
Most of them contain the same language:
As the founding fathers of the United States of America made clear in the Declaration of Independence in 1776:
“When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”
“…Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government…”
The Georgia petition, filed Saturday, currently has 4,067 “signatures.” According to the rules of the “We the People” portion of the White House web site, a petition requires 25,000 signatures to elicit a formal presidential response. For instance, this is how the White House came to release its famous beer recipe.
So how might the White House properly respond to these new secessionists should they get to 25,000? The answer is very clear: Free tickets to Steven Spielberg’s “Lincoln,” which opens Friday at a theater near you:
Seriously, it’s the toleration of this kind of foolishness that got the GOP in trouble. And if Republicans are sincere about learning from past mistakes, this seems like a good place – an easy place – to start.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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Debbie Dooley
November 12th, 2012
2:56 pm
Ignorance is bliss…..
retiredds
November 12th, 2012
3:16 pm
Even if these buffoons get 500,000 GA signatures that does not represent all of the people of this state. My guess is that they would lose a referendum to secede rather handily. But it makes them feel better then they should go for it. What is the old adage, never make a big decision when you’re angry because it inevitably will be the wrong decision.
Question Man
November 12th, 2012
3:19 pm
Is this another legislative initiative cooked up by the leadership at ALEC?
Marlboro Man
November 12th, 2012
3:21 pm
Poor excuse for an American.
JL
November 12th, 2012
3:24 pm
Just when I thought living in Georgia could not get more embarrassing….
Wesley Dunn
November 12th, 2012
3:26 pm
At a time when our country needs unity and a spirit of cooperation to solve huge problems of national and international importance- not to mention the Republican Party needing to broaden its base to be relevant again, what GOP strategic genius framed this up?
John Jowers
November 12th, 2012
3:27 pm
Why should the GOP take any more responsibility for these nutjobs than the Libertarians or Democrats? Clearly these folks are on the very fringe of society. I’m not sure any of us would even have an awareness of their antics if those in the media didn’t give them the publicity they so crave.
yuzeyurbrane
November 12th, 2012
3:28 pm
I would say amen to their request but for the fact that I and at least 45% of Georgians would suffer terribly under these traitors. For the same reason, I would feel the same about most of the states of the Old Confederacy.
Dunwoody
November 12th, 2012
3:44 pm
I guess we could secede, but we’d have to get foreign aid from the real USA to survive.
M
November 12th, 2012
3:46 pm
One Nation, under God, indivisible, unless my team lost in the election.
Del Olds
November 12th, 2012
3:51 pm
An army of lawyers? Might be a better strategy, and more successful, with a better chance of winning.
Jimmy
November 12th, 2012
3:54 pm
This is not the time to quit the fight.This is a time to re double our efforts and defeat the enemy,Barrack Hussein Obama and his policies.We survived the likes of Jimmy Carter,and we will survive this socialist also.Not a single vote cast for Obama in the state of Georgia helped re-elect this fraud to the White House.100% of the electoral votes from Georgia went to Mitt Romney.
JB
November 12th, 2012
3:56 pm
Withdrawal?!?! Are you kidding me??? These frickin’ idiots need to withdraw from the state and not stay and embarass the rest of us. Please leave quickly and don’t utter another word on your way out!!!
me
November 12th, 2012
3:58 pm
Why are you assuming these are GOP members? How do you know that this same group wouldn’t have petitioned if Romney had won? I guess there is no such thing as unbiased media! Especially from the AJC. My guess is that it makes more sense to stir the pot than offering helpful solutions.
JB
November 12th, 2012
3:59 pm
Hey Jimmy, not a single vote or dollar from Ga helped elect Mitt, either. Let me guess, you’re one of the folks that signed that worthless piece of paper.
Scott Fresno
November 12th, 2012
4:04 pm
Treason much?
Beta
November 12th, 2012
4:08 pm
I wonder if these folks used their real names. Probably not, but if yes now the hated government, and their neighbours, have a list of potential trouble makers to keep their eyes on. Surely, they didn’t use their real names, you think?
Michelle
November 12th, 2012
4:09 pm
Jimmy, Thankfully, as a Georgia voter, my vote was added to the popular vote, which President Obama won as well.
J Throckmorton Malcontent
November 12th, 2012
4:10 pm
Yes and there were Union men who wept with joyful tears,
When they saw the honored flag they had not seen for years;
Hardly could they be restrained from breaking forth in cheers,
While we were marching through Georgia.
Hurrah! Hurrah! we bring the jubilee!
Hurrah! Hurrah! the flag that makes you free!
So we sang the chorus from Atlanta to the sea
While we were marching through Georgia.
“Sherman’s dashing Yankee boys will never reach the coast!”
So the saucy rebels said and ’twas a handsome boast
Had they not forgot, alas! to reckon with the Host
While we were marching through Georgia.
So we made a thoroughfare for freedom and her train,
Sixty miles in latitude, three hundred to the main;
Treason fled before us, for resistance was in vain
While we were marching through Georgia
JL
November 12th, 2012
4:10 pm
Georgia is too small for a country and too big for an insane asylum.
Tom
November 12th, 2012
4:14 pm
Publish the names of every one of these traitors.
MANGLER
November 12th, 2012
4:15 pm
So when 75, 85, 95, and 20 are blocked at the borders, and the port of Savannah has gunships preventing commercial trade, and terminals T through K at Hartsfield all become International … then what? You think you are quabbling with Tennessee over water rights now? Just wait until they point guns at you for being a foreigner. You don’t like equal rights for all or medical care for the masses or publicly funded schools? Fine. Secede. When GA’s population drops from 9.8 million to the people who sign the petition only, then I guess it won’t matter much that TSPLOST didn’t pass.
BILLY MAYS HERE
November 12th, 2012
4:16 pm
IDEA: Let Puerto Rico into the union and kick Texas out. Seems like a great trade to me.
BILLY MAYS HERE
November 12th, 2012
4:16 pm
“WE LOVE AMERICA SO MUCH WE WANT TO LEAVE AMERICA” –Dummy States
Honky Talkin
November 12th, 2012
4:17 pm
Watching the GOP fade into extinction is great entertainment.
PMC
November 12th, 2012
4:18 pm
Why do you report on this? Might as well go to a lunatic asylum and report their ramblings as well.
BILLY MAYS HERE
November 12th, 2012
4:18 pm
Dunwoody
November 12th, 2012
3:44 pm
I guess we could secede, but we’d have to get foreign aid from the real USA to survive.
Haha, maybe they could ask Israel for it.
Kathy F.
November 12th, 2012
4:19 pm
From an old bumper sticker: If at first you don’t secede, try, try again.
GoodScout
November 12th, 2012
4:20 pm
All of you who want to secede can go — but you can’t take the territory that was fought and died for by TRUE patriots.
Take your treason and go live in your neocon dreamland, Somalia. Leave America for true Americans who respect our elections and institutions.
Matt
November 12th, 2012
4:21 pm
Lessons from the Election… http://bit.ly/Ukn7PA
earthworx
November 12th, 2012
4:21 pm
Hear hear Mr. Galloway!
doc
November 12th, 2012
4:23 pm
oh yes, please leave the united states! i work at the cdc and would love to move to a more sophisticated and enlightened state than this miserable backwater. lol. they are gop’s nuts. let them suffer the monsters they created
JL
November 12th, 2012
4:24 pm
And Jimmy? Georgia DID help Obama win reelection. By being a state run by right wing lunatics who passed an array of Draconian laws. That allowed the national Democrats to point to Georgia and ask Latino and women and gay and independent voters if this is the party and the ideas they really wanted in the White House. Those voters overwhelmingly said no and voted for Obama.
John Jowers
November 12th, 2012
4:24 pm
If you’re going to blame the GOP for every crackpot group in GA, you might as well make them responsible for the “Sovereign Citizens” as well.
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/gwinnett-man-pleads-guilty-to-stealing-foreclosed-/nR7CZ/
camille
November 12th, 2012
4:25 pm
LOL!!!….. I can’t stop laughing…
Go ahead and secede…… give up medicare, medicaid, food stamps, peachcare, federal money for schools……roads………..epa………… osha…….. airport………federal parks……loose a lot of jobs (government jobs, air force base, contractor jobs)…………… many companies would pull out of GA…..Grady, a trauma hospital would cease to exist… go ahead and pull out.. save me some money….. LOL!!!! people just don’t think.. they react… LOL!!!!
Congrats PRESIDENT Obama on your win…..
camille
November 12th, 2012
4:28 pm
If people are sooooo unhappy with the presidential election LEAVE THE COUNTRY.. no one is stopping you. Retain your ‘privilege’ as a US citizen and move to a foreign country. Have good health care, superb military, inspected meats and vegetables… JUST LEAVE…
Eli
November 12th, 2012
4:31 pm
Sore losers, the whole lot of them.
Withdraw from the Union?…over an election?! Give it a rest.
I seem to remember a bunch of racists doing that once…I also seem to remember that it was a miserable failure.
Grow up, people. The sun will rise in the east again tomorrow. Millionaires and Billionaires will still be millionaires and billionaires…and wealthy Americans like myself will still be able to turn $50k/yr manufacturing jobs from the US into $5/day jobs in China…just like Romney and the GOP like.
rock in my shoe
November 12th, 2012
4:31 pm
where do i sign?
Honky Talkin
November 12th, 2012
4:31 pm
Most of these GOP idiots should move to Hawaii. They don’t think it’s a US state anyway…..
Blake
November 12th, 2012
4:33 pm
I’m for it.
Denise
November 12th, 2012
4:34 pm
JB….LOVE YOUR COMEBACK TO JIMMY!!! CLASSIC!!
stan
November 12th, 2012
4:34 pm
are they kidding ! bunch of dummies!
Senor Coughee
November 12th, 2012
4:35 pm
So where’s the article equating all Democrats with Jared Loughner? It’s only fair. Especiall if you’re going to equate all Republicans with nut cases like these. Then again, I already know the answer. “That’s different”. Go to hell, Jim, and take your biased BS with you.
professor says...
November 12th, 2012
4:36 pm
WHY are so many white people so intolerant of anyone else’s success?
WHY can’t you get along with people other than other whites? You are so damn ignorant and this secession-thing proves it yet again. Grow up!
Gary Burley
November 12th, 2012
4:37 pm
Why does the rest of the country think we’re a bunch of backward hicks again? Oh yeah…
Denise
November 12th, 2012
4:37 pm
@me…cut me a break. You know this would not be the case if Mr. Romney had won.
JRHD
November 12th, 2012
4:44 pm
I served this country so that all of you could throw stones at each other. SMH and sadly walk away.
2DPointAtlanta
November 12th, 2012
4:44 pm
This is one thing the President might support.
He gets nothing but dramatic resistence from us (Georgia) anyway. Russia split up and most of those small countries are getting along fine.
Agree 100%
November 12th, 2012
4:46 pm
to the Debbie D. you must be blissful. retiredds let me guess like you just did Obama care will not hurts us WRONG. JL Georgia could not get more embarrassing I’ll buy the bus ticket if you promise to leave. Tom thanks for publishing your whole name DUH. Doc I’ll get you a tickeet to leave with JL. God forbid these people express their rights under the Constitution but then most of you are properly people who supported Obama he is the guy that doesn’t care a bit about the constitution and just want to get this county in such bad shape he can become king or emperor
Jeff
November 12th, 2012
4:48 pm
Supposedly the US is commemorating the 150th anniversary of the Civil War. The only problem is for some people in Georgia that war never ended.
Anita
November 12th, 2012
4:51 pm
As a resident of Georgia, I must admit there a lot of idiots that live here. Next they will petition to start slavery again.
Anita
November 12th, 2012
4:51 pm
As a resident of Georgia, I must admit there a lot of idiots that live here. Next they will petition to start slavery again.
TG
November 12th, 2012
4:57 pm
Agree with 2DPointAtlanta! Don’t let the door hit you in your big wide butt gas hog behinds. .
Oscar Knight
November 12th, 2012
5:02 pm
……..This will be the Game Changer for Obama, and Our Nation, before we go into the total self destruction motions. Aloha Obama !!!
tiger5
November 12th, 2012
5:03 pm
These people are just reacting irrationally to an event that crushed their confidence and hope in America. I personally do not identify with either party but I can see that Obama is a representative of the extreme left and his policies WILL destroy our society; economically and morally. This is just fact. hopefully a consevative House can keep him somewhat in check. Remember Libs, NOTHING is free. Absolutely NOTHING. We will pay the price, sooner or later.
Harold
November 12th, 2012
5:07 pm
Not a bad idea. Obama has done a magnificent job dividing us along race, ethnicity, income and gender so why not just go our own way? The libs can have CA and all the blue states and let all the illegals in they want. Take a look at the path CA is on, lets get out before it consumes us here.
Dumb Dixie Goobers
November 12th, 2012
5:20 pm
Wow! Let them secede, and yes, Israel, Gawd’s chosen country [among the evangelical freaks] can provide the foreign aid, ’cause gubbermint dependent Georgia will need it. Just pay me in US currency–my relatives were fleeced last time filing out was tried.
The star has such dumb ‘leaders’ that the ACOG past president, County Commissioner PAarish, of UNION county declared a special confederate day, and more stars and bars went up all over the county and on all the Big Foot Trucks. Nobody told ‘em it’s Union County for a reason–they weren’t on the side of the losers.
I’m sure they are this time….
Independent
November 12th, 2012
5:21 pm
If they want to secede, then they can pack their bags and go to another country that suits their desires. Perhaps, Poland, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Yemen or some other right-wing country. While I am not one to gloat over a victory, these folks make me want to. The people of the US have spoken, and I might add that only 53% of Georgians voted for Romney so that isn’t exactly overwhelming. The election is over. Get over it; stop whining; go out and try to do something constructive to make your community a better place.
atlmom
November 12th, 2012
5:23 pm
Oregon is one of the states requesting to leave hardly a republican stronghold.
Tired
November 12th, 2012
5:24 pm
Isn’t this just the next logical step after the fiefdoms of Sandy Springs, Dunwoody, Brookhaven, etc. seceded from their counties?
Allen
November 12th, 2012
5:27 pm
Jail’em all for treason.
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
November 12th, 2012
5:29 pm
That could be confusing. There is already a country called Georgia. Would they sue for international copyright infringement of country names? Is there such a thing? What if Russia accidentally invades the wrong Georgia? Then there is the matter of all the change of address forms everyone would have to fill out. Sounds like too much hassle.
Old Dawg
November 12th, 2012
5:30 pm
Georgia has greatly benefitted from the federal government. Military bases, road construction, academic research grants, the construction of new bridges in Savannah and Brunswick, the deepening of the Savannah Harbor, transportation grants at Hartsfield-Jackson airport … the list is endless.
Sad to say, the Age of Nut-jobs continues!
Jim8307
November 12th, 2012
5:31 pm
Traitors all, IMO. What part of the Pledge of Allegiance did these morons fail to learn in elementary school.
Lindas
November 12th, 2012
5:39 pm
How stupid racism makes people. Withdrawing from the union is something that more than likely would have to be voted on. Really? How do you idiots really think that would turn out? Save the waste of tax dollars. Pack it up and move on out of the country. You won’t be missed. Idiots.
Keyser Söze
November 12th, 2012
5:40 pm
Sad and funny at the same time. This is the right version of the lefties that threaten to move to Canada when a republican gets elected. Irony certainly is not a strong suit with these people.
MeME
November 12th, 2012
5:42 pm
Dear “me”, you really are a tool. How does me think it could be any group other than the. GOP. Don’t be insulting… I’ve lived in GA. The GOP IS narrow minded.
MeME
November 12th, 2012
5:43 pm
So Oscar and the likes of you…where were you during the Bush years? How offensive
Kris
November 12th, 2012
5:47 pm
When the last CROOK and idiot leaves the gold dome, please turnout the light.
America Love it or Leave it! Delta is ready when you are.
I pledge Allegiance to John Boehner (bonehead) oops my bad my name is not price (is wrong).
Buymadeinusjobs
November 12th, 2012
5:55 pm
Hot dog, that will let blue states keep more of their money if they do not need to worry about 41% Georgians who fit Rommey’s 47% moochers. Good Bye Ft. Benning, Ft Stewart, Moody AFB, Atlanta IRS, CDC, mail procesing, all good paying jobs. Good bye Most hospitals, nursing , homes , doctors, they are dependent on medicare/medicaid. I think one poster had it right , put them on train to some states who want all whites , maybe AZ or ALA ,,,, No VA or social secuity. The want it like 1800’s so let them have it, You guys may want to go camping for a month and make sure that life suits you, no internet/cable.
If you hear someone threatening to fire employees because of election , find some place else to spend your money. Employees/other person::Set up business to compete and put him out of business. Employees , you can probably get almost as much money from unemployment, food stamps, medicaid for your children’s healthcare and not buying gas for your car.If that small business is operating that close, they would have failed anyway. We all know if I make 350,000, I can deduct expenses for plant, equipment and employees say $ 100,000 so that leaves 250,000 minus Itemized or standard deduction[about 7500] , exemptions 2300. each. So most businesses fit in 98%.
GaBlue
November 12th, 2012
5:57 pm
From the referenced story: “Petitioners only have to put a first name and last initial on the site.”
I hope they’ll stand behind their beliefs and put their first and last names on the petitions. I’m sure our Veterans would like to know for whom they’ve put their lives on the line, and which of their neighbors have rejected U.S. citizenship.
Neal
November 12th, 2012
5:57 pm
Yet another reason not to cut education spending.
WAW
November 12th, 2012
5:58 pm
Bit history: Georgia was not readmitted to Congress of the “One Nation” after losing the War Between the States until June of 1869 but was kicked out in December of the same year. It finally acknowledged reconstruction in July of 1870 and was readmitted again. The United States government has never recognized the right of states to secede, and considers the states to never have left the union during the war. So the President’s answer would be the same today, “You can’t.”
And while you’re thinking about it, what about saying good bye to Kings Bay, Robins, Dobbins, Fort Benning. Also, most of the corporate headquarters located in Georgia, the Braves, Falcons, and Hawks. Finally, try to balance a budget (as the State Constitution requires) with pecans and peanuts (you ain’t got no money).
jude the obtuse
November 12th, 2012
6:06 pm
@me: Would you like to make a serious wager on that? You can’t be silly enough to REALLY believe what you’re saying here?!
Shar
November 12th, 2012
6:10 pm
I wonder how these folks would have reacted if they had been on the losing end of the Bush-Gore situation, with the guy who lost the popular vote and only squeaked out an electoral college win with the help of one Supreme Court justice. Back then, the Democrats heard, “Shut up. It’s over and we have a mandate!” Now, with a Democratic victory, albeit it thin, in the popular vote and a flat out mauling in electoral vote, it’s a howling of insults, claims of vote improprieties and whining about secession.
The far right of the Republican party, long used by the establishment as a vocal group that reliably turns out on social issue fear mongering, is now wagging the dog – to the great discomfiture of the part of the party that moderates would actually vote for. The fringe, convinced of their righteousness and power by echo-chamber media, has been caught completely unaware by the national rejection of their attempt to legislate morality, and the frustration of that rejection coupled with the dawning realization that demographic change will make it impossible to win on that platform in the future has translated into absurdist responses like secession, doomsday prophecies and name-calling.
Let’s hope that the majority of the party will come to terms with the fallout of their strategy and will take the obvious steps of repudiating divisive and rancorous entertainers-cum-party leaders like Limbaugh and re-forming themselves around the small-government policies that made the Republicans a viable, meaningful alternative to the Democrats. Another excellent move that could restore credibility like a sudden tonic would be for the party to outlaw lobbyist donations to individual legislators – any and all such donations would go into a shared pot, so no particular legislator would (supposedly) know which special interest was buying their time. That would address a huge concern of the electorate and catapult the Republicans past the Democrats in terms of appearing to embrace ethical conduct and smaller government.
Gerald
November 12th, 2012
6:11 pm
I’m not for it. This bunch of Idiot’s would want to put Jimmy Carter as president. Then they could bring back 21% interest rates.
Jim8307
November 12th, 2012
6:30 pm
Revoke their citizenship and deport them all, Kenya would be a nice location. After all, these are likely the same idiots who believe the POTUS was born there instead of Hawaii. If that doesn’t work then Afghanastan or Iraq should be considered once all US troops are withdrawn.
Constatine
November 12th, 2012
6:42 pm
It’s becoming a huge embarrassment to live in this state. Georgia was on the path as being the gateway to the new south, when it hosted the Olympics in 1996. And now the least educated among us want to carry us back to the pre civil war era. Here’s an idea, why don’t all of you that want to secede and thumb your nose up at all the veterans that fought for this country, just leave. This state would be better without you and your 5th grade education.
jess
November 12th, 2012
6:47 pm
Who said these were Republicans?
Shelley Thull
November 12th, 2012
7:01 pm
I would like to apologize from Brownbackistan. Not all Kansans are stupid–just the majority.
ray
November 12th, 2012
7:27 pm
Why not let the GOP peacefully leave the Union? They seem to be the typical children who bring their ball to the park, and get spanked… and want to take their ball and go home! Bye– SEE YAH!
BILLY MAYS HERE
November 12th, 2012
7:28 pm
tiger5
November 12th, 2012
5:03 pm
…I personally do not identify with either party but I can see that Obama is a representative of the extreme left and his policies WILL destroy our society; economically and morally.
Stop lying dude you would never vote for anyone left of Pat Buchanan
Thomas
November 12th, 2012
8:09 pm
Throw your sucker in the dirt and cry! LOL
Facepalm
November 12th, 2012
8:19 pm
Have a counter-petition: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/please-ignore-petition-secession-state-georgia-we-dont-know-who-those-people-are/13JQK1QP
The Woman!
November 12th, 2012
9:15 pm
This is a joke, right? These folks are full of S***. I live in Georgia, but am so embarassed by the ignorant racists who HIDE behind what they “claim” to be conservative views. They are fooling no one but themselves. Idiots.
George Chidi
November 12th, 2012
9:42 pm
The counter-stupid petition.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/please-ignore-petition-secession-state-georgia-we-dont-know-who-those-people-are/13JQK1QP
This is Mrs. Norman Maine
November 12th, 2012
10:04 pm
He should call their bluff and let them go. Well they can’t have Georgia of course but let Texas secede and the Georgia folks can move over there. Seriously.
Charlie Sargent
November 12th, 2012
11:14 pm
If the cravkers want G,, we should ALL leave and let them have it. I plan to do so. I donot want to live in a state where people are this DUMB!!
Oscar Knight
November 13th, 2012
12:33 am
…The Splitting of California, and Areas around Atlanta,Sandy Springs,Dunwoody, Buckhead,and Johns Creek,is a role model for having more control over our Government, How our Taxes are being spent (Wasted), and cleaning up uncontrolled Government corruption, by electing our own Elected Officials.
Diane
November 13th, 2012
5:55 am
Why does Jim assume these petitioners are Republican? Because those are the folks who lost and who have been calling for secession. Responsible reporters like Jim Galloway don’t report what readers want to hear. They report what they perceive as the truth. Why would Democratic voters want to secede when their candidate won? Perhaps you are not accustomed to reading truly responsible journalism?
Edmund Ruffin
November 13th, 2012
7:20 am
Secession was right in 1860, it is right today. The states, who created the union, not the other way around, always had the right to leave until the better armed army of dishonest Abe did their dirty deed.
robert
November 13th, 2012
7:57 am
I do not believe that Georgia should withdraw from the union, however the hate and ignorance of most of what I assume are from liberals is what is truly embarrassing. Especially “professor says” that person wants it to be a racial thing when the only races talking points I’ve seen for years has been from the liberals. They like to make fun of the GOP and say they’re too white and say they don’t represent the minorities, but closer to the truth is that the minorities that stand up for conservative ideas are call uncle toms. But really they are the ones standing for true freedom, standing to be free to explore their opportunity, not taking a token to stay in the life style they are in. and for those minorities I salute you!
Logical Dad
November 13th, 2012
8:08 am
Dear Seceders:
Why do you hate America?
Keepin' It Real
November 13th, 2012
8:10 am
I tell my CHILDREN all the time: “If you don’t like the rules in MY house, pack your things and leave.” My children are not allowed to live as they want in a part of my house.
ideas
November 13th, 2012
8:18 am
Hey JL….Delta is ready when you are
ideas
November 13th, 2012
8:19 am
Hey JL….Delta is ready when you are. You have the right to leave just like the majority of Georgians who want to can leave the Union. I wish it would come to a vote and then maybe all of you who are embarrassed or carpetbaggers would leave.
wishing
November 13th, 2012
8:20 am
Conservatives use to say, “America, love it or leave it.” While I disagree with the sentiment, why don’t they stay consistent with their past diatribes?
Keepin' It Real
November 13th, 2012
8:21 am
@ Robert:
Not so fast my friend. Both my wife and I are graduates of GA Tech, six figure salaries, kids in private school, live in the suburbs, very fiscally conservative, and belieive in individuality. The demographics are there (for the GOP) so you would think… The problem with the GOP include but not limited to:
1. GOP leaders not condemning racist elements in the party
2. GOP leaders not calling out idiots with “legitimate rapes” mindsets
3. GOP leaders focusing on keeping the 3% rich when 90% of their constituency comes from households un $60k.
Just keeping it real, who want to be a part of that? This past presidential election confirmed that the power of the old white man vote is no more. Change your tactics and policy and pay attention to the new face of America.
disgusted
November 13th, 2012
8:26 am
Hey, “DOC” Delta is ready when you are!!!
jimbo
November 13th, 2012
8:31 am
You lost the civil war, get over it.
peaceman
November 13th, 2012
8:35 am
NOW I know why people feel that southern folks are dumb and this prove s there point
Jbraml
November 13th, 2012
8:37 am
Texas went bankrupt when they were an indepedent nation. Let them go and see how long they last before again begging to re-enter the union.
Tamarak
November 13th, 2012
8:39 am
As a true “native” Georgian – I wish all of you would leave my state and take your phony form of government with you. Give our people back their land!
Whirled Peas
November 13th, 2012
8:42 am
It is amazing how intolerant the left can be all the while proclaiming themselves to be tolerant. We live in a brave new world were everyone is equal but some are more equal than others. And no one can be more arrogantly intolerant of anyone who does not share their views of the world than the lefties on Jim Galloway’s blog. He has gathered a hell of a lot of leftist kooks on one website. Most of them need to go back to school and take remedial English.
Jbraml
November 13th, 2012
8:43 am
The original Edmund Ruffin was also a fool.
sam
November 13th, 2012
8:47 am
banned by America
Jbraml
November 13th, 2012
8:48 am
When did it become intolerant to condemn treason?
Pandora
November 13th, 2012
8:49 am
This will not happen. Ignorance Is bliss. All of these racist people are dying off. If this happens, which I SERIOUSLY DOUBT, Georgia will NOT HAVE ANY REPUTIBLE businesses doing business with them. I say that all of these racist people just need to go on an island alone and just self destruct. So sad and pitiful!!!
Let it go you red-necked racsit people! White people are the minority now. Always has been and will continue to be. Get over it!
Pandora
November 13th, 2012
8:50 am
peaceman I’m a southerner and I am TOTALLY against this foolishness. I’m from New Orleans and this is bullsh#!!
michael
November 13th, 2012
8:50 am
These are the same people that would be yelling “Love it or leave it.” Let them go to Mexico or pakistan when they should do quite well.
The Austrian Brotherhood
November 13th, 2012
8:52 am
It’s Constitutional and legal but you totalitarian ignoramuses can’t abide by people different from you. Progressives, like Jim “cumstache” Galloway, are the biggest hypocrite intolerant collectivists, just like your comrades in Greece. You can have your taxes and world empire and murder and corruption. Secessionists can do fine without you bozos. And Lincoln was a tyrannical dictator responsible for nearly 800,000 deaths you dimwit fools.
robert
November 13th, 2012
8:52 am
racist elements? really?…. legitimate rapes was a bibical statement (Jeremiah and Psalm) and the 3% I think you are totally wrong about
robert
November 13th, 2012
8:55 am
For more proof read all these comments! Like Pandora
Jbraml
November 13th, 2012
8:55 am
The Austrian Brotherhood
There was a logical, well thought out post. You can’t open your mouth without subtracting from the sum knowledge of mankind.
just sayin'
November 13th, 2012
8:55 am
It’s free speech, it’s legal to do, so why be so critical. If the libs were doing this, it would be heralded as a great statement of freedom. Always critical of the right, the press (read: Galloway) is so eager to criticize those who disagree. Give them credit for standing up for what they believe, even if you think it is misguided.
just me
November 13th, 2012
9:01 am
It is obvious that dems and their socialist/progressive fellow travelers are always just sitting at the ready for another lib blog so they can spew their vitriol at anyone who has a different opinion. No doubt these are the 47% Romney referred to who essentially are parasites living off government hand-outs. I just hope the money holds out so you will have your government checks, unemployment, food stamps, obamaphones, etc, for 4 more years.
Keepin' It Real
November 13th, 2012
9:04 am
@ Robert:
Yes, racist elements. Your pretending is a testimony of how out of touch your party is. Also, Todd Akin is NOT Jeremiah nor David… I READ the King James version DAILY. Finally, to think implies doubt. So that there is no doubt, you have been informed that the tactics and policies of the GOP does not even serve the vast majority of its constituency. Good luck to you and the GOP.
ray
November 13th, 2012
9:08 am
Let them secede and SUCCEED! You loser libs will have no money to pay for your entitlements.
johnny reb
November 13th, 2012
9:09 am
Huh
johnny reb
November 13th, 2012
9:10 am
Why do I feel like beating the crap out of every liberal I see now
Joseph
November 13th, 2012
9:12 am
For the Georgians, who want to withdraw from the union, why not save a lot of paperwork and just book a one way flight out of the United States of America to what ever country you would enjoy being a citizen of.. I’m sure you all will not be missed, because more than likely the only thing you are spreading in the United States is ignorance and hate. I guess it’s sad to wake and realized that the ball is no longer in your court and you are not in charge of the game. This country has changed and the “Good Ole Boys” are no longer the majority in charge and their money can not buy as much as they thought it could.
Chuck Allison
November 13th, 2012
9:17 am
Is this foolishness? Actually, folks in the rural counties will never be able to outvote the hoards of “takers” in the cities. And we cannot hope to earn enough money to support them and take care of our own families as well.
It is in desperation that the traditional American families wish to escape the sadness that has become the United States of America. They want to continue to live in Christian communities where there children are taught self reliance, hard work, personal hygiene, and family values.
Tom_B
November 13th, 2012
9:18 am
Their reason for wanting to secede is valid. So, in lieu of seceding, how can WE THE PEOPLE get Congress to limit its powers to that which has been delegated to it in our Constitution, as amended????
ETrammell
November 13th, 2012
9:20 am
This is really sad accuse for a soar loser get over it you lost the election move go forward.
Keepin' It Real
November 13th, 2012
9:24 am
Regarding welfare, handouts, or whatever… Answer a question for me. Why is 91% of Red states considered welfare states compared to only 39% of Blue states? Number don’t lie… http://stangzine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/welfare_states.jpg
#OnlySpeakOnWhatYouAreASubjectMatterExpert
Bravesfan77
November 13th, 2012
9:27 am
I welcome it. I would stay for sure. Listen Camille, you are spouting off but yes that’s exactly what we are tired of. All of those things you mention are needless, cost billions of dollars and create nothing but regulations. As for government money, where do you think the government gets their money? FROM THE STATES. So its not like we would not survive. As for jobs, honey they would not be leaving here the would be flooding here. Low tax, no unions, people that want to work. No social programs, no moochers. You know nothing about business that’s for sure. Hospital, bet we could have one of the best because all the doctors would be here too.
Robert
November 13th, 2012
9:29 am
The trend in Georgia has been to “annex” and create your own City (Milton, etc.). Annexation is a greater threat to the quality of life for many Georgians. If the “annex” trend continues over the next 10 years Georgia will have a “segregated” society. Annexation is the first step in seceding from the Union.
Jay Dubu
November 13th, 2012
9:30 am
How could Georgia ever function without the funds/services provided by the Federal Government? The state receives way more in benefits than it contributes to the National Economy.
The 4000+ people that signed the petition, should be excorted to the border of their choice, and given the heave-ho.
Good riddance!!!
Tiredoffools
November 13th, 2012
9:31 am
Don’t you fools realize that what-became-the-United-States SECEDED from Great Britain??? If people are not free to leave the union, then they’re not free!
Tiredoffools
November 13th, 2012
9:33 am
And please get yourselves educated on the definition of “civl war”. The north and south were not engaged in a civil war – the south simply wanted to withdraw from the union. If you’re a public school regurgitant, you’ve never heard this before.
Ty
November 13th, 2012
9:38 am
I got my Obama phone and my food stamps for 4 more years
Joann
November 13th, 2012
9:57 am
I suggest that all the people who want to withdraw from the nation— that you get your passports turn them inat the nearest border ( if you have one) get on a plane ,boat , walk or swim to the nation of your choice and be happy. Don’t let the USA hit you where the good LORD split you !!!!!
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
9:59 am
seems my post is being censored…not sure why
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
10:00 am
maybe if i post this in bite-sized chunks
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
10:01 am
Please tell me how we are a better nation today than we were 4 years ago, or even 50 years. I beg of you to not spew a bunch of rhetoric, but actual facts. I love how you make the assumption that this is all GOP, when it could be that there are many people that are not affiliated with any party that are simply disheartened with the direction this country is headed..
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
10:02 am
A lot of you seem to choose your “team” in this “presidential sweepstakes” like you would choose a football team to root for. You act like there is no real consequence for choosing poorly. You underestimate the power of the oval office, and we as a nation have selected a president based on color and emotion rather than substance. We as a nation have decided that our president should no longer be chosen or rejected based upon his own merits but rather on his/her ability to unrealistically ‘outpromise’ the other.
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
10:04 am
maybe, just maybe that is why people would be willing to secede. maybe, just maybe….it’s because our elections are no longer decided by the nation, but largely are determined by New York City, Philadelphia, Chicago, and Los Angeles. Remember when you look at the current president that overwhelmingly throughout the electoral map, we the people chose a different president, but feel like our voice was not heard because when you carry the aforementioned cities, you carry those states.
Just for giggles...
November 13th, 2012
10:05 am
Washington DC will deny the petition. The petioners decide to organize militia and force the issue. At this point, the situation would be similar to that of former USSR countries which the US supported btw. Ironic. At the same time, the US secessionist will have no choice but to fight an “imperalist” army with unconventional tactics. When this happens in other places, here we call them guerrilla or even terrorist. More irony. Maybe the French can help out the secssionist like they did in 1776. Lets, keep going. The secessionist win. Let’s say its an independent south now. The religious right that is very entrenched in the south now has the power. It’s what the “true conservatives” want. So blue laws go into full effect. No drinking, ban on books that are blasphemous, no divorced allowed, tell women what they can and cannot do, etc…just like, you guessed it. The Taliban in Afghanistan! Oh the irony…I can go on and on.
I’m just being sarcastic. But then again, the logic is there.
ATLnative
November 13th, 2012
10:08 am
I only have one word for anyone who puts pen to paper to be included in this……..IDIOTS.
If you are not happy with how things are in the United States, please do not forget that the borders to this country swing out as well as in. You are free to go search for your Shangri-La in some other country.
lns
November 13th, 2012
10:12 am
I’m sorry didn’t our country do this once in our history… How many people died in that war. What is it with these people they think they know better than the MAJORITY …. this is a bunch of morons who want to screw up this country. I might have been of southern heritage but I am an American first.
Big Joe
November 13th, 2012
10:37 am
The sad story here is that most of these folks refuse to acknowledge that most of their anger and hatred is fueled by racial animosity. They refuse to admit that their dislike of the President is because he is black. It’s no secret that the seven least educated states, Georgia included, voted for Romney, and the seven most educated states voted for President Obama. Draw your own conclusion.
Shine
November 13th, 2012
10:44 am
How does 4000 people imagine they speak for millions? LMAO!!
zgoldatl
November 13th, 2012
10:44 am
I signed all 20 peaceful States secession petitions. I truly believe that we would be better off as a group of allied countries than one United States. I think we are too divided to have Washington DC making decisions for 350 million people in Georgia, Texas, Alaska etc. As someone in Texas said this week, ”why should Texas and Vermont live under the same government?” Secede again! I have nothing in common with people in the Northeast and don’t appreciate them representing me. Herman Cain or Newt Gingrich for President of the Free State of GA or the New Confederacy.
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
10:45 am
@ Big Joe…..your assumption at its core is offensive and prejudiced. I don’t like this president for a lot of reasons but NONE of them have anything to do with color.
@ Ins…..this country is already screwed up.
Still no coherent response other than name-calling and race-baiting…..sounds like our current president
Shine
November 13th, 2012
10:46 am
Onama should grant their request and set them all up in a colony somehwere in Africa or on an unmammed tropical island.
zgoldatl
November 13th, 2012
10:47 am
Big Joe- What an absolute utter joke of a comment. Race was exploited by the left to win this election and you are perpetuating that myth. I’m very proud to have our first black President. Just wish he did a better job
Keepin' It Real
November 13th, 2012
10:48 am
@ adamreyn:
When Bush left office, the USA was LOSING 800,000 jobs per month. Today, the USA is GAINING 100,000 jobs per month. Simple math means that’s a net gain of a PLUS 900,000 jobs per month. PLUS 900,000 IS FAR BETTER THAN MINUS 800,000. Next question…
Shine
November 13th, 2012
10:48 am
zgoldatl
November 13th, 2012
10:44 am
I signed all 20 peaceful States secession petitions.
So you “voted” more than once? This just gets funnier and funnier.
Dixie Blue
November 13th, 2012
10:48 am
Remember that time you redrew the 12th Congressional District, and then John Barrow still won?
That was hilarious.
If you like the circus, move to Georgia. There are clowns EVERYWHERE.
Overstated Elegance
November 13th, 2012
10:50 am
The sky is falling!
The sky is falling!
OMG, what do we do?
I know, blame a bunch of stuff on the President.
Call him names that we can’t even define.
That should do the trick.
OMG, the sky is falling!
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
10:53 am
@ Shine…..”How does 4000 people imagine they speak for millions?” That’s how our government operates currently. The large populated cities end up speaking for an entire state in the electoral map. We have a disjointed republic because of it.
The individuals who voted for Barack Obama cast their vote with the Hollywood elite and Larry Flynt of Hustler. Do you really think their motives were for anyone but themselves. If you cast your vote along with the likes of people like this for 2 lawyers………..to steal a line from Big Joe….”Draw your own conclusion.”
Keepin' It Real
November 13th, 2012
10:55 am
@ adamreyn:
Dow Jones closes at 8448.56 01/13/2009 (week before Obama took office). Dow Jones currently at 12,843.50. Your 401k, 501B, IRA, Mutual Funds, etc have completely recovered and grown beyond what they were. THAT IS BETTER. Next question…
Ernest T. Bass
November 13th, 2012
10:55 am
And Republicans wonder why they continue to lose elections…
GoDawgs
November 13th, 2012
10:59 am
Even as much as these people who are wanting to succeed may feel about the federal government. Where would they be without federal funding? What will they do if they were to succeed to come up with there own funding and currency? Most likely beg to come back into the union after realizing there mistake and being broke.
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
11:00 am
@ Keepin’ It Real………..lol. i asked for facts not Dem talking points. according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics….and backed up by FactCheck…..show there was a net increase of nearly 1.1 million jobs — not a job loss — from January 2001 to January 2009.
It’s true that roughly 8.75 million jobs were lost from January 2008 to February 2010. But about half of those losses occurred during Obama’s presidency. BLS data show that 4.4 million jobs were lost in Bush’s last year in office, and 4.3 million more jobs were lost during Obama’s first 13 months.
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
11:04 am
please remember that during the last 2 years of Bush’s 2nd term, he had a completely Democrat controlled House and Senate. during the first 2 years of Obama’s presidency, he also had a completely Democrat controlled House and Senate. Also, the Republicans only control the House currently, which means…stop me if you’ve heard this….the Senate (who holds the power of the purse) is controlled by the Democrats.
zgoldatl
November 13th, 2012
11:06 am
Shine- No I didn’t vote more than once but as a citizen of the US (for the time being) , I have the right to sign any petition to the white house that I choose to.
Liberals/progressives are so tolerant until you disagree with them. We want to help the helpless, just don’t care about the lazy anymore.
The 10th Amendment is there for a reason. It is certainly starting to apply.
Lastly there was never a civil War in America (as a civil war implies both sides are seeking total control over the other side), but there was a War for Southern Independence or a War of Northern Aggression. As someone said before Abraham Lincoln was a murdering tyrant who raped and pillaged my non slave holding ancestors. I’m ready to move to any State that is serious about this, because the values of hard work and self reliance are being lost in these United States. I’m 26, this is about what kind of world my kids and grandkids will grow up in and I’m willing to fight for that.
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
11:06 am
Harry Reid lied to you and you bought it hook, line, and sinker because you wanted to
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
11:12 am
Also, please remember that at the onset of Bush’s presidency, we were hit at our financial epicenter on 9/11 that changed our economic landscape dramatically.
zgoldatl
November 13th, 2012
11:12 am
American by birth, Georgian by the Grace of God
Wiser than Us All
November 13th, 2012
11:13 am
“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”
Thomas Jefferson
Wiser than Us All
November 13th, 2012
11:13 am
“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”
Thomas Jefferson
zgoldatl
November 13th, 2012
11:15 am
You’d be surprised at how many moderates, even a couple Obama supporters agree that we are too spread out and divided to keep this union together. It’s not representative of the people. Things are going to get very interesting these next few months and years
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
11:19 am
What?!? Still no coherent, fact-based responses to my initial questions….Hmmmm.
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
11:28 am
Facts scatter liberals like roaches when a light is turned
zgoldatl
November 13th, 2012
11:35 am
Texas has already passed the 25,000 signature mark and Louisiana isn’t far off. That ensures the White House will have to respond
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
11:37 am
Georgia is just under 20,000 and the petition is only 3 days old. You have 1 month to get 25,000. What would the media do if this hit 100,000 or 1,000,000 by 12/10? It’d be interesting to see
Jon Lester
November 13th, 2012
11:51 am
Senor Coughee, maybe we can’t see your email, but the AJC has it on file.
zgoldatl
November 13th, 2012
12:01 pm
If at first you don’t secede, try try again
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
12:21 pm
Georgia now has just under 21,000 votes on this petition
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
1:12 pm
over 21,000 now
Big Joe
November 13th, 2012
1:21 pm
adamreyn where was your anger and indignation when this country suffered from eight years of Bush. You were mysteriously silent. Acknowledge your deepest fears: That a black man is the leader of the most powerful nation in the world. Stop the self denial and self delusion.
LwvilleGuy
November 13th, 2012
1:26 pm
I actually encourage the Republicans to keep up the loony behavior. The wackier they get the more unattractive they’ll be come. If anything, amp up the crazy. The Tea Party was fun while it lasted. Can you all come up with something else where you can walk around in period costumes and tea bags on your heads, please?
Oscar Knight
November 13th, 2012
2:11 pm
……Our Nation, Our State, Our County, Our Cities, and Our Neighborhoods has been divided for a very long time….Although this hasn’t been made official yet, it can be seen for ourselves; The Break Offs has already been occurring with areas forming their own Local City Governments.
…….This is probably the only way to Welcome Back Prosperity, Growth, Productivity, Jobs, and The American Dream !!!
Oscar Knight
November 13th, 2012
2:25 pm
…..The United States of America is Narrowing the Dysfunctional Gap; At least some are attempting to do so.
Erica
November 13th, 2012
4:26 pm
Wow I honestly just think this a bunch of bull. We are suppose to be one nation undivided….regardless of all the drama in government. Through the years we’ve survived both good and bad presidents. It’s all about who you perceive is the better candidate. So what Obama won, obviously the ppl chose him. That is the point of an election correct? So that everyone has a free vote and opinion. To those that support being released from the union, what does that say about you? You would rather run when times get hard? How do you figure the new country of Georgia’s rules will be any better? Who here would be a good president of Georgia? Without federal aid taxes would be raised and the larger companies would more than likely leave……so please explain how this is better just because you don’t want to push through 4 more years?
Mildred Harrison
November 13th, 2012
4:36 pm
All I can say is WOW. I’m glad stupidity is not contagious.
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
5:48 pm
once again Big Joe….you play the race card without answering the question. I was actually a HUGE voice of discontent over Bush’s 2nd term. And it had nothing to do with him being white anymore than my issues with Obama have anything to do with him being black.
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
5:50 pm
My deepest fears have nothing to do with a man or woman of any race, my deepest fears have to do with a staunch socialist running the country. And you are delusional if you think we are the most powerful nation on the planet at this point in history.
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
5:53 pm
@ Erica….you’re making a lot of assumptions in your argument. Also, you’re making the same arguments the loyalists made before and after the Boston Tea Party.
Erica
November 13th, 2012
7:00 pm
@adamreyn in all actuality my “assumptions” aren’t assumptions at all. As you can see most of my arguement consisted of question marks, because I honestly would like to understand how this will help people. As you previously stated, I too agree that this does not have to do with race considering I am a black woman who does not support all of Obama’s ideas and choices. I simply want to know how does anyone feel that annexing from America would be a better solution. In my opinion, whether you want to call me a loyalist or not, all I can see would be more heartache. Where would the money come from if you cut off the federal government? My family pays enough in taxes per year equaling almost $80K this year alone; I don’t see that getting any better being annexed. Call me crazy but regardless I’m a proud American, I was one during Clinton, Bush and Obama and I will continue to be, no matter the president.
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
7:25 pm
how do you like this….Google reports that government monitoring of citizen usage is more this year than at any time in history. Currently, the USA also leads the world in monitoring its citizens. the number of requests made by our government to Google is more than the next 4 countries requests combined.