A White House petition to allow Georgia’s peaceful withdrawal from Union
We’ve entered the period for thoughtful responses to last week’s woodshedding of the Republican party in the presidential sweepstakes.
In the take-my-ball-and-go-home category, we have the news that 20 petitions have been lodged with the White House website, seeking the peaceful withdrawal of certain states from the Union. Georgia, of course, is among them.
Most of them contain the same language:
As the founding fathers of the United States of America made clear in the Declaration of Independence in 1776:
“When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”
“…Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government…”
The Georgia petition, filed Saturday, currently has 4,067 “signatures.” According to the rules of the “We the People” portion of the White House web site, a petition requires 25,000 signatures to elicit a formal presidential response. For instance, this is how the White House came to release its famous beer recipe.
So how might the White House properly respond to these new secessionists should they get to 25,000? The answer is very clear: Free tickets to Steven Spielberg’s “Lincoln,” which opens Friday at a theater near you:
Seriously, it’s the toleration of this kind of foolishness that got the GOP in trouble. And if Republicans are sincere about learning from past mistakes, this seems like a good place – an easy place – to start.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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peaceman
November 13th, 2012
8:35 am
NOW I know why people feel that southern folks are dumb and this prove s there point
Jbraml
November 13th, 2012
8:37 am
Texas went bankrupt when they were an indepedent nation. Let them go and see how long they last before again begging to re-enter the union.
Tamarak
November 13th, 2012
8:39 am
As a true “native” Georgian – I wish all of you would leave my state and take your phony form of government with you. Give our people back their land!
Whirled Peas
November 13th, 2012
8:42 am
It is amazing how intolerant the left can be all the while proclaiming themselves to be tolerant. We live in a brave new world were everyone is equal but some are more equal than others. And no one can be more arrogantly intolerant of anyone who does not share their views of the world than the lefties on Jim Galloway’s blog. He has gathered a hell of a lot of leftist kooks on one website. Most of them need to go back to school and take remedial English.
Jbraml
November 13th, 2012
8:43 am
The original Edmund Ruffin was also a fool.
sam
November 13th, 2012
8:47 am
banned by America
Jbraml
November 13th, 2012
8:48 am
When did it become intolerant to condemn treason?
Pandora
November 13th, 2012
8:49 am
This will not happen. Ignorance Is bliss. All of these racist people are dying off. If this happens, which I SERIOUSLY DOUBT, Georgia will NOT HAVE ANY REPUTIBLE businesses doing business with them. I say that all of these racist people just need to go on an island alone and just self destruct. So sad and pitiful!!!
Let it go you red-necked racsit people! White people are the minority now. Always has been and will continue to be. Get over it!
Pandora
November 13th, 2012
8:50 am
peaceman I’m a southerner and I am TOTALLY against this foolishness. I’m from New Orleans and this is bullsh#!!
michael
November 13th, 2012
8:50 am
These are the same people that would be yelling “Love it or leave it.” Let them go to Mexico or pakistan when they should do quite well.
The Austrian Brotherhood
November 13th, 2012
8:52 am
It’s Constitutional and legal but you totalitarian ignoramuses can’t abide by people different from you. Progressives, like Jim “cumstache” Galloway, are the biggest hypocrite intolerant collectivists, just like your comrades in Greece. You can have your taxes and world empire and murder and corruption. Secessionists can do fine without you bozos. And Lincoln was a tyrannical dictator responsible for nearly 800,000 deaths you dimwit fools.
robert
November 13th, 2012
8:52 am
racist elements? really?…. legitimate rapes was a bibical statement (Jeremiah and Psalm) and the 3% I think you are totally wrong about
robert
November 13th, 2012
8:55 am
For more proof read all these comments! Like Pandora
Jbraml
November 13th, 2012
8:55 am
The Austrian Brotherhood
There was a logical, well thought out post. You can’t open your mouth without subtracting from the sum knowledge of mankind.
just sayin'
November 13th, 2012
8:55 am
It’s free speech, it’s legal to do, so why be so critical. If the libs were doing this, it would be heralded as a great statement of freedom. Always critical of the right, the press (read: Galloway) is so eager to criticize those who disagree. Give them credit for standing up for what they believe, even if you think it is misguided.
just me
November 13th, 2012
9:01 am
It is obvious that dems and their socialist/progressive fellow travelers are always just sitting at the ready for another lib blog so they can spew their vitriol at anyone who has a different opinion. No doubt these are the 47% Romney referred to who essentially are parasites living off government hand-outs. I just hope the money holds out so you will have your government checks, unemployment, food stamps, obamaphones, etc, for 4 more years.
Keepin' It Real
November 13th, 2012
9:04 am
@ Robert:
Yes, racist elements. Your pretending is a testimony of how out of touch your party is. Also, Todd Akin is NOT Jeremiah nor David… I READ the King James version DAILY. Finally, to think implies doubt. So that there is no doubt, you have been informed that the tactics and policies of the GOP does not even serve the vast majority of its constituency. Good luck to you and the GOP.
ray
November 13th, 2012
9:08 am
Let them secede and SUCCEED! You loser libs will have no money to pay for your entitlements.
johnny reb
November 13th, 2012
9:09 am
Huh
johnny reb
November 13th, 2012
9:10 am
Why do I feel like beating the crap out of every liberal I see now
Joseph
November 13th, 2012
9:12 am
For the Georgians, who want to withdraw from the union, why not save a lot of paperwork and just book a one way flight out of the United States of America to what ever country you would enjoy being a citizen of.. I’m sure you all will not be missed, because more than likely the only thing you are spreading in the United States is ignorance and hate. I guess it’s sad to wake and realized that the ball is no longer in your court and you are not in charge of the game. This country has changed and the “Good Ole Boys” are no longer the majority in charge and their money can not buy as much as they thought it could.
Chuck Allison
November 13th, 2012
9:17 am
Is this foolishness? Actually, folks in the rural counties will never be able to outvote the hoards of “takers” in the cities. And we cannot hope to earn enough money to support them and take care of our own families as well.
It is in desperation that the traditional American families wish to escape the sadness that has become the United States of America. They want to continue to live in Christian communities where there children are taught self reliance, hard work, personal hygiene, and family values.
Tom_B
November 13th, 2012
9:18 am
Their reason for wanting to secede is valid. So, in lieu of seceding, how can WE THE PEOPLE get Congress to limit its powers to that which has been delegated to it in our Constitution, as amended????
ETrammell
November 13th, 2012
9:20 am
This is really sad accuse for a soar loser get over it you lost the election move go forward.
Keepin' It Real
November 13th, 2012
9:24 am
Regarding welfare, handouts, or whatever… Answer a question for me. Why is 91% of Red states considered welfare states compared to only 39% of Blue states? Number don’t lie… http://stangzine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/welfare_states.jpg
#OnlySpeakOnWhatYouAreASubjectMatterExpert
Bravesfan77
November 13th, 2012
9:27 am
I welcome it. I would stay for sure. Listen Camille, you are spouting off but yes that’s exactly what we are tired of. All of those things you mention are needless, cost billions of dollars and create nothing but regulations. As for government money, where do you think the government gets their money? FROM THE STATES. So its not like we would not survive. As for jobs, honey they would not be leaving here the would be flooding here. Low tax, no unions, people that want to work. No social programs, no moochers. You know nothing about business that’s for sure. Hospital, bet we could have one of the best because all the doctors would be here too.
Robert
November 13th, 2012
9:29 am
The trend in Georgia has been to “annex” and create your own City (Milton, etc.). Annexation is a greater threat to the quality of life for many Georgians. If the “annex” trend continues over the next 10 years Georgia will have a “segregated” society. Annexation is the first step in seceding from the Union.
Jay Dubu
November 13th, 2012
9:30 am
How could Georgia ever function without the funds/services provided by the Federal Government? The state receives way more in benefits than it contributes to the National Economy.
The 4000+ people that signed the petition, should be excorted to the border of their choice, and given the heave-ho.
Good riddance!!!
Tiredoffools
November 13th, 2012
9:31 am
Don’t you fools realize that what-became-the-United-States SECEDED from Great Britain??? If people are not free to leave the union, then they’re not free!
Tiredoffools
November 13th, 2012
9:33 am
And please get yourselves educated on the definition of “civl war”. The north and south were not engaged in a civil war – the south simply wanted to withdraw from the union. If you’re a public school regurgitant, you’ve never heard this before.
Ty
November 13th, 2012
9:38 am
I got my Obama phone and my food stamps for 4 more years
Joann
November 13th, 2012
9:57 am
I suggest that all the people who want to withdraw from the nation— that you get your passports turn them inat the nearest border ( if you have one) get on a plane ,boat , walk or swim to the nation of your choice and be happy. Don’t let the USA hit you where the good LORD split you !!!!!
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
9:59 am
seems my post is being censored…not sure why
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
10:00 am
maybe if i post this in bite-sized chunks
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
10:01 am
Please tell me how we are a better nation today than we were 4 years ago, or even 50 years. I beg of you to not spew a bunch of rhetoric, but actual facts. I love how you make the assumption that this is all GOP, when it could be that there are many people that are not affiliated with any party that are simply disheartened with the direction this country is headed..
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
10:02 am
A lot of you seem to choose your “team” in this “presidential sweepstakes” like you would choose a football team to root for. You act like there is no real consequence for choosing poorly. You underestimate the power of the oval office, and we as a nation have selected a president based on color and emotion rather than substance. We as a nation have decided that our president should no longer be chosen or rejected based upon his own merits but rather on his/her ability to unrealistically ‘outpromise’ the other.
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
10:04 am
maybe, just maybe that is why people would be willing to secede. maybe, just maybe….it’s because our elections are no longer decided by the nation, but largely are determined by New York City, Philadelphia, Chicago, and Los Angeles. Remember when you look at the current president that overwhelmingly throughout the electoral map, we the people chose a different president, but feel like our voice was not heard because when you carry the aforementioned cities, you carry those states.
Just for giggles...
November 13th, 2012
10:05 am
Washington DC will deny the petition. The petioners decide to organize militia and force the issue. At this point, the situation would be similar to that of former USSR countries which the US supported btw. Ironic. At the same time, the US secessionist will have no choice but to fight an “imperalist” army with unconventional tactics. When this happens in other places, here we call them guerrilla or even terrorist. More irony. Maybe the French can help out the secssionist like they did in 1776. Lets, keep going. The secessionist win. Let’s say its an independent south now. The religious right that is very entrenched in the south now has the power. It’s what the “true conservatives” want. So blue laws go into full effect. No drinking, ban on books that are blasphemous, no divorced allowed, tell women what they can and cannot do, etc…just like, you guessed it. The Taliban in Afghanistan! Oh the irony…I can go on and on.
I’m just being sarcastic. But then again, the logic is there.
ATLnative
November 13th, 2012
10:08 am
I only have one word for anyone who puts pen to paper to be included in this……..IDIOTS.
If you are not happy with how things are in the United States, please do not forget that the borders to this country swing out as well as in. You are free to go search for your Shangri-La in some other country.
lns
November 13th, 2012
10:12 am
I’m sorry didn’t our country do this once in our history… How many people died in that war. What is it with these people they think they know better than the MAJORITY …. this is a bunch of morons who want to screw up this country. I might have been of southern heritage but I am an American first.
Big Joe
November 13th, 2012
10:37 am
The sad story here is that most of these folks refuse to acknowledge that most of their anger and hatred is fueled by racial animosity. They refuse to admit that their dislike of the President is because he is black. It’s no secret that the seven least educated states, Georgia included, voted for Romney, and the seven most educated states voted for President Obama. Draw your own conclusion.
Shine
November 13th, 2012
10:44 am
How does 4000 people imagine they speak for millions? LMAO!!
zgoldatl
November 13th, 2012
10:44 am
I signed all 20 peaceful States secession petitions. I truly believe that we would be better off as a group of allied countries than one United States. I think we are too divided to have Washington DC making decisions for 350 million people in Georgia, Texas, Alaska etc. As someone in Texas said this week, ”why should Texas and Vermont live under the same government?” Secede again! I have nothing in common with people in the Northeast and don’t appreciate them representing me. Herman Cain or Newt Gingrich for President of the Free State of GA or the New Confederacy.
adamreyn
November 13th, 2012
10:45 am
@ Big Joe…..your assumption at its core is offensive and prejudiced. I don’t like this president for a lot of reasons but NONE of them have anything to do with color.
@ Ins…..this country is already screwed up.
Still no coherent response other than name-calling and race-baiting…..sounds like our current president
Shine
November 13th, 2012
10:46 am
Onama should grant their request and set them all up in a colony somehwere in Africa or on an unmammed tropical island.
zgoldatl
November 13th, 2012
10:47 am
Big Joe- What an absolute utter joke of a comment. Race was exploited by the left to win this election and you are perpetuating that myth. I’m very proud to have our first black President. Just wish he did a better job
Keepin' It Real
November 13th, 2012
10:48 am
@ adamreyn:
When Bush left office, the USA was LOSING 800,000 jobs per month. Today, the USA is GAINING 100,000 jobs per month. Simple math means that’s a net gain of a PLUS 900,000 jobs per month. PLUS 900,000 IS FAR BETTER THAN MINUS 800,000. Next question…
Shine
November 13th, 2012
10:48 am
zgoldatl
November 13th, 2012
10:44 am
I signed all 20 peaceful States secession petitions.
So you “voted” more than once? This just gets funnier and funnier.
Dixie Blue
November 13th, 2012
10:48 am
Remember that time you redrew the 12th Congressional District, and then John Barrow still won?
That was hilarious.
If you like the circus, move to Georgia. There are clowns EVERYWHERE.
Overstated Elegance
November 13th, 2012
10:50 am
The sky is falling!
The sky is falling!
OMG, what do we do?
I know, blame a bunch of stuff on the President.
Call him names that we can’t even define.
That should do the trick.
OMG, the sky is falling!