Your daily jolt: ‘You could see riots in the streets,’ says Saxby Chambliss

A newly re-elected President Barack Obama will make a White House appearance early this afternoon to set the tone for negotiations with House Republicans on avoiding the so-called fiscal cliff.

But no pressure. Certainly not from U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss, one of the leaders of a bipartisan approach to tackling the question of spending cuts and revenue increases. From an interview with Chambliss in today’s Washington Post:

”I was watching the news this morning and looking at Greece. That’s exactly where we’re headed. There are riots in the streets. It’s either going to be done by us, using this opportunity we have now, or the people we sell our bonds to are going to [respond]. You could see riots in the streets of the United States if we don’t do this right. We have the opportunity right now, and it’s imperative that we do, primarily through a $4-5 trillion package over 10 years.”

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Several thousand residents of Georgia would rather see a dead scientist in Congress than a fellow who declares evolution and such to be lies from the pit of hell. Via this morning’s Athens Banner-Herald:

Charles Darwin, the 19th-century naturalist who laid the foundations for evolutionary theory, received nearly 4,000 write-in votes in Athens-Clarke County in balloting for the 10th Congressional District seat retained Tuesday by five-year incumbent Republican Rep. Paul Broun….

“I can’t ever remember seeing a (write-in ballot) report that long,” said Athens-Clarke County Elections Supervisor Gail Schrader after releasing the full list of write-in numbers to local media Thursday morning.

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Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed quietly gathered a group of core supporters on Thursday to assure them that he had no intention of accepting any appointment from the new Barack Obama administration and would press on with his 2013 re-election bid.

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In the first 48 hours after Tuesday’s presidential defeat, many Republican eyes are putting immigration at the top of the fix-it list. From today’s Wall Street Journal:

House Speaker John Boehner and other Republicans in Congress said Thursday that they want to consider broad changes to immigration laws next year, after an election in which Hispanic voters turned out in force to help President Barack Obama win a second term.

Columnist Charles Krauthammer may have stirred up the most dust on the topic:

The principal reason [Hispanics] go Democratic is the issue of illegal immigrants. In securing the Republican nomination, Mitt Romney made the strategic error of (unnecessarily) going to the right of Rick Perry. Romney could never successfully tack back.

For the party in general, however, the problem is hardly structural. It requires but a single policy change: Border fence plus amnesty. Yes, amnesty. Use the word. Shock and awe — full legal normalization (just short of citizenship) in return for full border enforcement.

In Georgia, immigration activist D.A. King is pushing back. From today’s Marietta Daily Journal:

Nearly half the illegal aliens in the U.S. did not come here illegally. They overstayed temporary visas. For votes, should we ignore visa violations, too? This is how most of the 9/11 terrorists were able to remain here….

Documenting millions of resentful undocumented Democrats is a crack-pot method to elect a Republican President.

Former Atlanta mayor Shirley Franklin passed on a link to this Miami Herald article, which she said was passed to her by Manuel Diaz, the former mayor of Miami. It includes the following:

Obama actually won Cuban-Americans on Election Day itself, taking 53 percent of their vote compared to 47 percent for Republican Mitt Romney, who built up a lead among those who cast absentee and early in-person ballots, according to the survey of 4,866 voters conducted by Bendixen & Amandi International.

So Romney narrowly carried Cuban-Americans, 52-48 percent, which is a decrease for Republicans when compared to 2008.

“Obama is picking the Republican lock in Florida,” Fernand Amandi said, noting that Hispanics are Florida’s fastest-growing segment of the electorate.

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Sharon Mitchell, the interim elections director for Fulton County, admitted some problems on Tuesday night, but denies that it was the “debacle” that Secretary of State Brian Kemp said it was:

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State Sen. Doug Stoner, D-Smyrna, reports that he has tried to reach out to Republican Hunter Hill, who defeated him on Tuesday, but hasn’t been successful.

“I had to leave a message,” he said.

Last year, Stoner’s Cobb County district was drawn into Republican Buckhead last year, with Tuesday’s result in mind — part of the Republican quest for a constitutional majority in the Senate. In conceding, Stoner added this:

“The final tally of 52.87 percent to 47.13 percent demonstrates that had this district not been gerrymandered, I may well have won. In fact, I carried the Cobb County portion of the district two-to-one,” Stoner said.

Stoner managed to run slightly better than President Barack Obama in the redrawn District 6, but not by much. While the Cobb County portion of District 6 is 36 percent African-American, that number dropped to 8 percent in Fulton County. In his worst precinct – the wealthy one that includes the Governor’s Mansion and West Paces Ferry Road, Stoner lost to Hill by 80 to 20 percent.

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Just in case you missed the Augusta Chronicle’s after-the-fact, harsh judgment on Lee Anderson, the newspaper’s champion in the effort to oust U.S. Rep. John Barrow, D-Augusta, from the 12th District:

Clearly, the inarticulate Anderson’s strategy of laying low – not debating Barrow and, worse, not making himself available to say much more than “hello” to the media – crippled his campaign and torpedoed his image.

“Lee Anderson ran the worst campaign of all time,” one normally soft-spoken political observer told us.

Yup. Political science teachers may want to use it as a textbook example of what not to do to be elected. Even sympathetic voters were turned off by Anderson’s unavailability to explain himself or his agenda.

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Over at PeachPundit.com, Charlie Harper offers this thought on the same topic:

Twelfth District Republicans have vowed to begin immediately recruiting a higher profile candidate for the 2014 congressional race. Senate President Pro Tem Tommie Williams’ name is floated most often.

He is stepping down as President Pro Tem for the 2013-2014 session of the General Assembly and has remained somewhat coy as to his future plans beyond that. He will likely receive a number of calls from local GOP members inquiring if his desire to work in DC has changed.

Those same folks may want to consider making a call to one other person as well. That person is John Barrow.

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Former President Jimmy Carter this morning will formally join the board of trustees of Mercer University. From the Macon Telegraph:

Carter’s ties to Mercer include a session in his living room in Plains about six years ago with Mercer President Bill Underwood and former university President Kirby Godsey. The three men talked about a large meeting to bring Baptists together. That led to a 2008 convention at the Georgia World Congress Center in Atlanta. The event, Celebration of a New Baptist Covenant, also featured former President Bill Clinton, a fellow Baptist.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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65 comments Add your comment

Jon Lester

November 9th, 2012
10:04 am

The editorial staff at the Augusta Chronicle are the kind of people you never want to go into business with. They were all about how great an Anderson win would be, and not about to give second thoughts to John Barrow, but once the counting was done, they went and made it obvious how little they really thought of Anderson. As a near-daily thorn in their side, I’m still not sure if they honestly believe some of the stuff they print, or if they’re really just contemptuous people.

RomeGaGuy

November 9th, 2012
10:05 am

Does Hunter Hill have someone that screens his calls and messages like Stoner did?

Secretary Kemp should know what a debacle is by how he handled the State Archives issue.

Bob Young

November 9th, 2012
10:05 am

Which members of the Georgia delegation voted to create the fiscal cliff in the first place? Are they having buyer’s remorse now? Will they apologize to the people of Georgia for creating a “crisis”?

Tom

November 9th, 2012
10:06 am

The 4,000+ write-in votes Darwin received represents nearly a quarter of Broun’s total in A-CC. Write-in numbers for the entire distrcit aren’t available yet.

James Connah

November 9th, 2012
10:09 am

The economy is heading downward as the full impact of some of the new measures hit next year. I decided to quit charitable donations since the government seems to be doing so much and I have no say in that. It is tiresome bailing out countries because they have made poor choices and have bad citizens. It is tiresome bailing out people who live on the coast and want everyone to share their pain when the inevitable storm hits. Here’s to a black market economy where sales and income taxes are ignored/not reported. I just sold $100,000 in gold which cost me $31,000. I’ll report 0 gain. Ha Ha

Mr. Peanut

November 9th, 2012
10:15 am

And James goes galt. don’t worry, we won’t miss you. nothing you think is going to happen is in fact going to happen. the grownups are back in charge. ;)

cc

November 9th, 2012
10:24 am

Saxby is correct . . .

Unless drastic action is taken, America will soon resemble Greece.

On another note, the stock market which has done surprisingly well through the first four years of Obama’s reign is now tanking. I think that part of the reason the market did well was the anticipation of a new president with leanings towards fiscal accountability. Absent that anticipated change, the stock market is now responding accordingly.

I’m glad I removed myself from the stock market and invested solely in gold at $232.00 per ounce! when that option was available.

rawmilkdrinker

November 9th, 2012
10:28 am

168 years ago today, after having burned Atlanta to the ground, ordering general mayhem and destruction, and capturing 4-500 women and children from Roswell to be sent to Kentucky, that great American Republican, General William Tecumseh Sherman began his scorched earth “March to the Sea” campaign. I guess it’s a good thing that he was ordered to go to Washington DC by boat from Savannah instead of marching up through the Carolinas and Virginia!

Georgia, The " New Mississippi "

November 9th, 2012
10:31 am

This stuff is amusing to minorities that have faced far more difficult challenges in life than the ‘fiscal cliff ” the elected politicians has placed our nation on. This cliff might be a good thing for some of the population to experience. If may correct the behavior that got us to this point.

Bob Andrews

November 9th, 2012
10:33 am

Jim, The main purpose of President Zero’s comments today is to CALM our financial markets!

You may be interested in this video from Argentina: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/9666350/Argentines-flood-the-streets-to-protest-against-President-Cristina-Fernandez.html

Suess

November 9th, 2012
10:34 am

Those “Grownups” need to be put in the corner, Peanut. And all of the other Liberals and Commies!

Say What?

November 9th, 2012
10:43 am

PLEASE. The government and economic situation in Greece no more resembles this nation than Mars. Two of the biggest reasons are 1) unlike the Fed, the European Central Bank does not have a dual mandate to pursue low employment as well as low inflation. 2) The ECB’s authority is limited to maintaining low inflation, known as “price stability,” which the ECB defines as an inflation rate below 2%.

When the 2008-2009 global economic collapse pushed down GDP and trade, and pushed up budget deficits around the world, Greece was already dealing with a massive trade deficit and high government debt. Greece had consistently run government deficits greater than 5% of its GDP, and had carried government debt that just about matched its GDP for nearly a decade, both clear violations of Eurozone guidelines. But Greek banks, and banks in Germany and France, lent money to the Greek government, buying their bonds, which regularly yielded a great 5% rate of return, and which presumably carried limited risk as the sovereign debt of a developed country unlikely to default. But as the Greek economy collapsed, Greece had to raise its interest rates to above 12% to sell the additional debt it needed to stay afloat. By the summer of 2010, Greece was pushed to the point of default.

That is why Greece is not at all like the US situation. No matter what extreme right wing organizations like The Heritage Foundation would lead you to believe.

Norris T.

November 9th, 2012
10:44 am

The only rioting I have seen was by angry rednecks at Ole Miss when Obama won a second term.

Toes The Line

November 9th, 2012
10:46 am

Senator Chambliss should be issuing those warnings in his own caucus rather than trying to scare the majority. It’s those knuckleheads who’ve delivered us into this mess.

Don't Tread

November 9th, 2012
10:46 am

Saxby got it right.

Historically, people tend to riot when their gimmies are taken away. (Or when a court produces a verdict they don’t agree with.) This appears to be more the “norm” as time goes on.

Weetamoe

November 9th, 2012
10:52 am

Gee, Kasim, Bill Campbell said the same thing when Clinton was king. Did him no good at all. After amnesty those bright young hispanic kids in Los Angeles, Chicago, and NY will find themselves beaten up for getting good grades just like the Chinese kids before them–by those who are again left behind. Given the alternative, I choose the cliff.

MANGLER

November 9th, 2012
10:54 am

Quick reminder folks: For months I’ve been reading where “Obama and the Dems had Congress for the first 2 years”. OK, they stopped the economic free-fall that was occurring and their thanks was getting a GOP stale mate. The “cliff” legislation was written and passed, by Congress, in 2011. And who was running Congress then? Hmmm? Anyone? So quit your blaming and start your isle-crossing.
Oh, and a fiscal reminder to all y’all political couch potatoes – the POTUS does not have a United States check book and cannot spend a dime. Congress does that.

BARON DEKALB

November 9th, 2012
10:55 am

Don’t Tread wants us to believe: “Historically, people tend to riot when their gimmies are taken away.”

I can’t think of any example of rioting in the US that fits this description, unless you want to go back to the “Bonus Army” of the Great Depression. Black rioting in the 1960s was fueled by years of poverty and exclusion, as well as flashpoint events such as MLK’s assassination. The Chicago 1968 convention turned into an orgy of violence as the nation’s most famous recent “police riot.” And recently, the only thing people seem to get excited enough to riot about is when their sports team comes out on top. Our values may be skewed but it’s in an entirely different way than what you suggest.

shivas

November 9th, 2012
10:57 am

Riots in the street? Well, quit playing political games and work with the President to fix our economy! Dimwit.

shivas

November 9th, 2012
10:58 am

As per Anderson, Jon Lester hit the nail on the head.

David

November 9th, 2012
11:00 am

Decades of CAREER POLITICIANS put us in the mess that we are in today, to include CHAMBLISS; and he is correct, we are not beyond riots in our streets…..wait and see!

intowner

November 9th, 2012
11:02 am

double

November 9th, 2012
11:03 am

CC get over it.If you got a golden egg,sit on it.One thing for sure you have Obama for four more years.Your if,ands,& buts change nothing.Ann says no more Romney,and she should know.

intowner

November 9th, 2012
11:04 am

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double

November 9th, 2012
11:06 am

Repeat,repeat,all you gurus,we going to be like Greece.Well thanks for informing us.No news like old news.

Political Avoider

November 9th, 2012
11:08 am

Hey all you Obamacommies, Obamacommie shedding a tear for you because if you ARE working you are likely to be laid off because companies are already saying they will do so because this commie was elected. YOU voted for him thinking YOU would get more handouts. Expect your taxes, insurance, etc to rise because of him. Its a sure bet. All you freeloading parasites will suffer along with the rest of us.

In 1931 Dr. Adrian Rogers wrote this profound short paragraph:

” You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives

without working for, another must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anyone anything

that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not

have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my friends is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. “

kjds

November 9th, 2012
11:12 am

i guess saxby will be moving to that senior complex in woodstock so he can avoid a potential riot.

Skip

November 9th, 2012
11:14 am

I’ll believe the riot crap when Mitt and Sax get on a plane to France.

GaBlue

November 9th, 2012
11:15 am

Man, my Republican friends are really upset! They truly did not see this coming — probably because their selective “news” sources only tell them what they want to hear. They’ve either dropped or blocked their FB accounts… or blocked me. :( I made a point to not gloat, or even comment on or after election day, and only commented prior on things like Amendment one, the definition of rape, and to respond to Rev. Huckabee’s assertion that I was heck bound. (Seriously, CAN WE SMOKE down there? Inquiring souls want to know!)

Bless their hearts. Some of them are really nice people whose company I enjoy. I hope they get past this soon. I hope they don’t hate ME for having the sense God gave me!

Oppo

November 9th, 2012
11:19 am

Saxby is right. Hoping the grand compromise will happen. Surely the dc fools aren’t so stupid they’ll sink the whole ship.

BobV

November 9th, 2012
11:19 am

I haven’t read the Augusta Chronicle in a few years. Was wondering: did they ever change their editorial position from being the last segregationist daily newspaper in America?

RCB

November 9th, 2012
11:20 am

Kasim would LOVE a nod from Obama. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Nitemare

November 9th, 2012
11:22 am

Stoner was flushed down his automatic MARTA toilet!

Oppo

November 9th, 2012
11:24 am

And anyone who saw Anderson speak knew he was not qualified. What’s amazing was he won the primary. The chronicle is a disgrace of a paper. It’s never the staff. It’s the candidate stupid. And the prob here is that the candidate is stupid.

Democrat Man

November 9th, 2012
11:25 am

Americans should be proud that we’ve elected Obama. Now no one will have to worry about health or even getting a job. The federal governent will be taking care of us!

DEAinATL

November 9th, 2012
11:28 am

Enter your comments here

yuzeyurbrane

November 9th, 2012
11:29 am

Saxby is hungry for adoption of the Simpson-Bowles plan because he could then claim his support of it saved the nation. Without commenting on that plan, maybe it is a good proposal, Chambliss is factually way off base in comparing the U.S. situation to Greece. Besides the obvious fact that Greece is a much smaller country with a much smaller economy, the riots in Greece are being caused by the severe austerity measures being imposed on the Greeks by their German bankers. While there have been austerity measures here, they have been nowhere as draconian as those in Greece. Now they might be if we were to follow the TeaParty formula of massive spending cuts only imposed in 1 big hunk, and indeed civil disorder could occur if we reached 25% unemployment like the Greeks. If more reasonable heads prevail then temporary additional stimulus combined with phased in budget balancing (spending cuts and tax increases) could get us over this rough patch. Simpson-Bowles could provide a starting point for discussions on this. With increased demand, the over $70 TRILLION held on the sidelines by the 1% might actually be spent on increasing production and hiring to meet the increased demand.

KPH

November 9th, 2012
11:31 am

There have been 1100 companies announce major layoffs (fifty or more employees)
in the last 48 hours. Brace yourself America this is only the start of what a second Obama term is going to produce.

DEAinATL

November 9th, 2012
11:32 am

Greek riots are causedd by 25% unemployment due to counter productive “austerity” measures to save big European banks. Perhaps Chambliss knows whereof he speaks – the Ryan budget would destroy the economy and perhaps lead to anti-GOP riots.

Kris

November 9th, 2012
11:37 am

Some one tell saxby to be sure to come inside when it rains.
I have been watching Boehner,
He is flop flopping like a fish on land from sonny’s fish farm.
Let me say he looks like he has been on a 3 day drunk…still stupid. The repub’s do not need to redefine themselves as we all know what they are (scum) they are willing and might still tank the economy to get their idiot in the White house…Wrong they need to do what is right FIX the damn ECONOMY… Then fix all the other PROBLEMS they caused.

While on the subject of repubs…Watch the Gold dome antics.

The word of the day is ….RECALL

Nopper

November 9th, 2012
11:38 am

Carter a joke for church leader.

Halftrack

November 9th, 2012
11:41 am

Riots are coming. If voters across our nation had understood the “fiscal cliff” that is upon us they would know that the wolf is at the door. America is little red riding hood without someone to look after us. On a radio talk show recently a single mom thought the most important issue in our Country was that Romney would take “Sesame Street” off the air. Is this critical thinking? The wolf wins and little red riding hood loses.

Jo

November 9th, 2012
11:41 am

It is hard to place blame for the fical cliff on anybody. It is hard to point to which part of the problem is due to deficiet spending, how much to low GDP growth, how much due to the payroll tax cut or refundable credits. It is amazing that we owe 16 trillion racking up 1 trillion more per year and we are worried about decreasing this amount by $506 Billion. If we do it by increasing taxes, we remove that amount from the economy, if we do it by cutting expenditures we remove it from the economy. Do we solve this problem cold turkey or a slow weaning. Even Robert Ruben wants more stimulus spending, a exemption from Payroll tax on the first $20,000 to grow the economy to solve the problem.

Increasing the growth rate of the economy while holding spending stagnet is the only way to solve the fiscal cliff. It is not popular but raising taxes on the wealthy just removes the money from the economy.

Lets just hold on throught 4 more years of the new normal and go over the cliff and get it over versus a protracted series of corrections that are just too little to be effective.

RCB

November 9th, 2012
11:41 am

People think that companies have all this cash and will be hiring IN ADDITION TO having to implement Obamacare? You’ve never run a business. They do indeed have a lot of cash, but they are responsible to their shareholders, not you and me. They are required to balance their budgets, unlike some people we know.

James

November 9th, 2012
11:43 am

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/09/1159450/-David-Frum-on-Morning-Joe-Republicans-have-been-exploited-and-lied-to-by-Right-Wing-Media

You guys have been lied to and you won’t understand it until you lose again in 2016.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/how-conservative-media-lost-to-the-msm-and-failed-the-rank-and-file/264855/

Better still you’ve been brainwashed by folks who are picking your pockets at the same time. Back up and reassess YOUR thoughts. THINK how many are “selling” you their conservative values? Why are you buying their stuff? Think for yourself.

RCB

November 9th, 2012
11:44 am

Obama and Harry Reid–the new Thelma and Louise.

Nopper

November 9th, 2012
11:44 am

Kris most uninformed on blog. Get out of the out house and open your eyes. The Demo are the ones who in last 4 years spent 6 Trillion not Repu….But blame Bush you scum a@@.

Kris

November 9th, 2012
11:48 am

@ napper….Your Point?

RepublicansAreHypocrites

November 9th, 2012
11:50 am

I find it amusing how so many people like to to accuse democrats of being the free loaders always looking for a handout. Go down to your local trailer park where everyone is white and with all of two teeth in their mouth and accompany them to the grocery store. The same people bashing handouts and voting republican will be paying with their EBT card at the grocery store and receiving welfare checks.

Tap Out

November 9th, 2012
11:59 am

Just drag a BBQ pork chop and a beer thru the middle of the street….that will break up any right wing riot.