Your daily jolt: Republicans absorb Tuesday’s lessons
The message from last night: The dynamics of Georgia politics haven’t changed much in four years. Republican Mitt Romney on Tuesday won this state (53.4 percent) by nearly the same margin as John McCain (52 percent) in 2008.
Here’s the county-by-county map of last night’s returns.
In fact, with the exception of D.C.-infected Virginia, Republicans won every state in the Old Confederacy, and a few border concerns besides. But 206 electoral votes won’t win you a presidency. Elsewhere, the GOP clearly needs to recalculate its audience and its message.
Republicans had bet the demographic changes measured in countless surveys and the 2010 census wouldn’t show up at the polls. They were wrong. The quick and simple from the Associated Press:
In exit polling Tuesday, voters mirrored the voting public’s makeup of four years ago, when Obama shattered minority voting barriers and drove young voters to the polls unlike any candidate in generations.
White voters made up 72 percent of the electorate — less than four years ago — while black voters remained at 13 percent and Hispanics increased from 9 percent to 10 percent.
That flew in the face of GOP assumptions that the fierce economic headwinds of the past three years and the passing of the novelty of the first African-American president would trim Obama’s support from black voters, perhaps enough to make the difference in a close election.
However, Obama carried Virginia, the heart of the old South, in part by having increased his record support from black voters there in 2008, which reached 18 percent, to more than 20 percent, according to Obama campaign internal tracking polls.
On CNN this morning, former U.S. House speaker Newt Gingrich simply said “I was wrong” when he predicted a 53 percent victory margin for Romney:
Said Gingrich:
“We all thought that we understood the historical pattern and the fact that, with this level of unemployment, with this level of gasoline pricing, what would happen….The country was looking at a different set of things than we were looking at.”
The miscalculations and misstatements – both Todd Akin in Missouri and Richard Mourdock in Indiana lost their Republicans campaigns – cost the GOP control of the U.S. Senate. Again, from AP:
In a somber statement, Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, said Republicans “have a period of reflection and recalibration ahead.” He added that, “While some will want to blame one wing of the party over the other, the reality is candidates from all corners of our GOP lost tonight.”
Some will declare that Republicans were beaten because they weren’t conservative enough. A message from Jenny Beth Martin, the Cherokee County woman who heads up Tea Party Patriots, arrived just before midnight. It included this:
What we got was a weak moderate candidate, hand-picked by the Beltway elites and country-club establishment wing of the Republican Party. The Presidential loss is unequivocally on them….
We cannot change what the Republican establishment handed us tonight. We can stop Barack Obama from fundamentally changing the future and character of this nation. We can stop the mushy-middle, non-fighters in the GOP from rolling over and getting rolled, yet again by the Left.
Or you can simply move on. This voice mail from Republican Joe McCutchen, who lived and breathed Mitt Romney for 18 months, arrived this morning:
”I’m sorry about Mitt, but I’ve already gone to work on the next two-year election. I’m happy about my nephew Hunter winning. We’re going to take over the Senate in 2014. I’ve already started to work on the next election.”
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In the passage of Amendment One the charter school measure, five counties in metro Atlanta provided 62 percent of the 625,133 margin of victory:
– DeKalb: Yes, by 81,784 votes;
– Cobb: Yes, by 83,204 votes;
– Gwinnett: Yes, by 74,626 votes;
– Fulton: Yes, by 111,733 votes;
– Clayton: Yes, by 39,503.
We’ve received one estimate that the charter school measure won approximately 65 percent of the African-American vote in DeKalb, 64 percent in Fulton, and 72 percent in Clayton. This despite concerted opposition from the likes of the Rev. Joe Lowery; state Sen. Emanuel Jones of Decatur, chairman of the Legislative Black Caucus; and state Sen. Vincent Fort of Atlanta.
This was the result that TSPLOST supporters wanted, but couldn’t get. Here’s a link to the county-by-county map of the returns.
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A review of other Georgia contests worth noting this morning:
– Both Republican incumbents on the state Public Service Commission won re-election. Chuck Eaton (52 percent) beat Stephen Openheimer (43 percent), with Libertarian Brad Ploeger taking 5 percent. Notice that the results roughly mirrored the presidential contest.
Stan Wise (66 percent) beat David Staples, who ended the evening as the state’s most popular Libertarian, with 34 percent – or more than 1 million votes.
– Democratic incumbent John Barrow finished off Lee Anderson with 54 percent in the 12th District congressional race.
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Republican challenger Hunter Hill beat Democratic incumbent Doug Stoner in the race for District 6 state Senate seat. But Republicans will have to wait for a runoff and special general election contest in District 30 before they can claim a supermajority in the Senate.
State Rep. Bill Hembree, R-Winston, narrowly missed (48 percent) winning outright, and will face Republican Mike Dugan (24 percent) in December. The winner must still face an independent in January. Former House speaker Glenn Richardson finished third (15 percent) in the District 30 contest.
So the count in the Senate is 37 Republicans, 18 Democrats, and one race yet to be decided.
Members of the new Republican Senate caucus will meet next week in south Georgia at Little Ocmulgee State Park to pick a new leadership team. Do not overlook the fact that, at one GOP celebration last night, Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle was introduced by state Sen. David Shafer, R-Duluth, who is likely to be elected Senate president pro tem.
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Democrats this morning claim they have blocked a GOP supermajority in the state House, keeping Republicans to 119 seats of 180. Among those races:
– In House District 12, Democratic incumbent Barbara Reece of Menlo lost to Republican Eddie Lumsden (51 percent).
– In House District 16: Republican Trey Kelley trounced (69 percent) Democratic incumbent Rick Crawford of Cedartown, who had promised to switch to the GOP if re-elected.
– In House District 81, Democratic incumbent Scott Holcomb defeated (56 percent) Republican Chris Boedeker.
– In House District 96: Democratic incumbent Pedro Marin survived (55 percent) a GOP challenge from Mark Williams, who was hospitalized during a portion of the campaign.
– In House District 105: Republican Joyce Chandler of Lawrenceville defeated (51 percent) Democrat Renita Hamilton for an open seat.
– In House District 138: Republican Mike Cheokas of Americus barely survived (50.64 percent) a Democratic challenge from Kevin Brown.
– In House District 145: Independent incumbent Rusty Kidd (54 percent) defeated Democrat Quentin Howell. Despite their effort to knock him off, Democrats say Kidd’s presence in the House– plus their 60 members — deprives the GOP of supermajority status.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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Butch
November 7th, 2012
3:18 pm
Anyone with half a brain could see Obama is going to spend this country out of existence. Unfortunately for this country, a lot of people don’t have half a brain. They just want the government to do everything for them instead of doing things for themselves. It doesn’t work that way. If you want all of these stupid wasteful spending items, you have to pay for it. I don’t know anyone that could get away with the spending and borrowing that the government does, but hey, we think we’re all special and can do whatever we want. We are in for very tough times ahead.
Oh and by the way. Most of those people that have higher degrees that voted for Obama (see the exit poles) are the ones that have educated themselves out of the workforce into jobs that don’t and shouldn’t exist. They’re just too stupid to actually realize it instead of doing a job that can and will actually make money and provide benefits in the real world. Don’t whine about college debt for master and doctor degrees that you can’t pay back.
Evan
November 7th, 2012
3:20 pm
Colin Powell is actually an American hero and Vietnam veteran who would probably rather sell his soul than vote for a lying, outsourcing, tax-increasing sack of sh*t, like Romney. The fact that all these clearly racist people have claimed that this endorsement was race based are fooling themselves. Is it really that hard to imagine that principled people, who are even marginally intelligent have significant trouble ignoring Mitt Romney’s incessant lies, and overall lack of character.
Evan
November 7th, 2012
3:25 pm
@ Butch, wtf is this guy talking about. Do us all a favor, read your post. It makes zero sense. “Educated themselves out of the workforce into jobs that shouldn’t exist” This is nonsense. This guys probably from Alabama, has a fourth grade education, his cousin is his wife and he more than likely owns 20,000 guns. Seriously just stop. It’s not cool to just talk without any factual foundation.
It's A Fact...
November 7th, 2012
3:27 pm
Okay Repubs, you lost…go back to the drawing board and come up with a better strategy that will not alienate people of color…don’t be cowards and look for excuses…hold your heads up and take the lost with pride!!! The people of the U.S. have spoken loud and clear to the confederacy!!
joke on us
November 7th, 2012
3:30 pm
It would be much better for the GA republican party to get out in front on issues like gay marriage or get out of the marriage business all together and call the license “Civil Unions”. The local church can call it what they want. I even have a slogan for it “OUT-front”. Adopt an immigration friendly policy to issue state ID’s to students regardless of their status. Energy = JOBS ; we are building a new reactor in GA; bring more energy resouces to GA; if obama likes wind power; GA should act on a wind farm off the coast. Pipelines, refineries, natural gas storage facilities, natural gas filling stations; Don’t get me wrong I love being in GA; but the Good Ole boy network is alive and well here.
If you want a T-spost fund; make it for a complete subway system for Atl and at the same time you can redo some water lines.
A thousand ideas and no one to listen; Oh, and make HSA be able to roll over year to year to help with Obamacare.
joke on us
November 7th, 2012
3:32 pm
@its a fact….
Republicans was the party of Lincoln so the GOP actually ended slavery; I just don’t know how minorties ended up with the Dems because it use to be the KKK?
Nativebird
November 7th, 2012
3:34 pm
Colon Powell is a political opportunist who sold any honor earned by his military service for the price of racial retribution once in a position of power. A hack so low of an inside the beltway sleaze that he actually knowingly and willingly let an innocent man be erroneously persecuted by a political justice system and go to jail having the full knowledge of the actual true criminal and power to come forth and clear him. Instead, Powell covered for his friend Armitage and let Libby and his family hang in the wind over the Plame affair. THAT is having no honor. THAT violates everything the militar code of honor teaches and is Unforgivable. Powell is a weak old racially revengeful honor-less scab.
Mr. Thomas Anrhony Jones, SR
November 7th, 2012
3:36 pm
the Democrats have the stronger hand. We are loyal, faithful,and when the going get rough, we get tougher. The Democrats represent the poor and the working classes, African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, women, unions, gays, Native Americans, asian Americans, and seniors. With this group we are unbeateable. Mrs. Clinton wins in 2016 and 2020. Bill helped our man in 2008 and 2012. We help his wife in 2016 and 2020. We could see Bill in 1992, 1996, Preisdent Obama in 2008, 2012,Mrs. Clinton in 2016 and 2020. And mayor of LA in 2024 and 2028.
The only way that Republicans can win is for the Republicans to begin to Pander to us. If the Republicans do not start getting it right they will go the way of the Know Nothing Party. Only a fool would vote against something for the people and then ask the people for their vote. The Republicans are stupid. That is why they always lose.
NotYourTypicalAtlantan
November 7th, 2012
3:37 pm
This election/debate process is due for a major overhaul.
We live in an information age whereas data can be obtained any day, anytime anywhere. When I wanted to know what Romney stood for, all I needed to do was Wiki Mormon Church and this information was damning on what that cult’s belief are and it’s foundation was rooted in hate, prejudice and racism. Just as I Wiki’d this information, so could anyone around the world can do the same in an era where our country has a multitude of ethnic backgrounds.
Second, I Youtube’d the the republican candidate debates to see what other republicans thought of Governor Romney and this was an eye opener when he was accused of being a flip flopper-
I then looked up Romney’s approval rating for the State of Massachusetts and saw that Romney was losing by a landslide in his own State in addition to his birth State of Michigan.
I then google’d quotes of Romney which is one of the main reasons that he lost Michigan when out of his own mouth he suggested to let Detroit go bankrupt. Then during the debates he flips his position on letting Detroit go bankrupt as he did on each and every position that he ran his entire campaign on…the damage was already done and then there was the 47% statement that came out of his multi-billionaire mouth.
Romney obviously needed to study basic geography also stated in the 3rd debate the “Syria is Iran’s path to the sea” when a simple glance at a map will show that Iran is boarded by 3 seas, not Syria. This statement that Romney made raised the incompetent red flag with me in that how can you protect our country as commander and chief if he doesn’t know where the enemy is on a map?
Look at the horrible quality of candidates the republican party has presented to the American public just in recent years:
George Bush=Wealthy but incompetent
Dick Cheney=Thief, Ruthless, Dishonest and Heartless
Ron Paul=Intelligent but too old
Chris Christy=Strong contender, Morbidly obese
Sarah Palin=Incompetent
George H. Bush=Prejudice
Condelezza Rice=Uses big words to make it seem like she’s intelligent
John McCain=Too old
Herman Cain=Too old, too many skeletons in the closet
Mitt Romney=Incompetent with Geography and how Government works, fails to stand for anything
Paul Ryan=Wet behind the ears and needs a lesson in Social Studies on how Government works-
AD
November 7th, 2012
3:37 pm
The right-wingers on here simply do not get it…and they never will…Your assumptions about most of the individuals forming the Democratic party is as inaccurate as your assumptions about the individuals forming the Republican party. Not all Democrats are unemployed, uneducated. on welfare, looking for handouts, moochers or parasites. Not even close. Your party would do well to acknowledge that. Those elements exist within BOTH parties.
Al
November 7th, 2012
3:39 pm
@Evan
But it was ok for Democrats to blame Bush for EVERYTHING including high gas prices at the time he was in office. Don’t try to spin it, you know its true.
Think before you type idiot!!!!!
Annie
November 7th, 2012
3:41 pm
The line about the Republicans winning the Confederacy is funny but sad. I never understood why Romney surrounded himself with people who were stock in a time warp when it came to race, religious, sex, and gender issues. For a party that touts itself as being conservative and about small government, they really wanted to legislate people’s private lives, and be able to dictate who is and isn’t an American.
The sad part about Romney’s decision to align himself with these people is that he didn’t have to work for their votes, it’s not like they were going to vote for the President, so why pander to them.
Timus
November 7th, 2012
3:42 pm
The party of NO. Of “angry white men” needs to wake up. The whole anry white male things doesn’t work anymore. Come back to the center and leave the hard right wakos to themselves or find yourselves the new 3rd party!
Timus
November 7th, 2012
3:45 pm
There is a saying: “not all Republicans are racist but ALL racist are Republicans!!” Food for thought!
Mike
November 7th, 2012
3:49 pm
@ Timus – Be happy to…assuming, of course, you do the same for leftist element within YOUR party who despise this country and have no intention of truly offering real help to those in need. Perpetual entitlements aren’t it.
The Democrats stopped being the part of JFK long ago…shame.
mehlman rings twice
November 7th, 2012
3:55 pm
Nativebird,
Please wake up. General Powell didn’t let an innocent man get prosecuted for anything. That investigation was carried out by the Justice Department at the President’s direction. The judgement was rendered by the court system. Secretaries of State ordinarily don’t interfere with court procedings.
Sparta_Bubba
November 7th, 2012
3:56 pm
One day historians will be talking about Republicans, Whigs,Federalists and Democratic-Republicans in the same breath and saying “they were pretty fair political parties in their time but couldn’t change and died out.”
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
November 7th, 2012
3:57 pm
Georgia is no longer home to the worst President in the History of the United States. That crown goes to Illinois!!!!!!!!!!! – Voter 2:28
And the GOP could not even beat “the worst President in the History of the United States”. As I said earlier….what does that say about the product the GOP is selling?
FWIW. I disagree on the assertion of worst president ever. Perhaps you could read up on Andrew Johnson.
mehlman rings twice
November 7th, 2012
3:59 pm
Al @ 3:39 pm:
But Mr. Bush opened up that opportunity. During the campaign for the 2004 election he claimed that if we vote for John Kerry we will be paying $2.00 for a gallon of gas. He was right – I voted for John Kerry and we started paying over $2.00 for a gallon of gas.
Bob
November 7th, 2012
3:59 pm
Mr. Thomas “The Democrats represent the poor and the working classes, African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, women, unions, gays, Native Americans, asian Americans, and seniors. With this group we are unbeateable. Mrs. Clinton wins in 2016 and 2020″ ? The democrats rep the poor by keeping them poor. The poor that voted for Obama will still be poor and will still be getting the short end. In Chicago, land of democrats, 87% of public school kids live in poverty. The murder rate is one of the highest in the land, you must be one sick man to be a fan of that. Is that the representation they need or would they be better off without the help of dems ?
creaative
November 7th, 2012
4:03 pm
you people are all awful. Left and Right wingers both suck. Right wing Christian Moralists lost the election for Romney. Had Romney been pro choice, pro gay marraige, etc etc. I believe many gay/lesbian, socially liberal people would have voted for the GOP. I have gay friends who bust their butts and make a ton of money while not coming from a wealthy upbringing. Look at Log Cabin Republicans It is moronic to say that the GOP did not run a conservative enough candidate. Most people are one issue voters which is silly. Abortion, welfare check, guns, taxes, etc. I tossed my vote away with the libetarian, but they will never win unless they come up with a sensible drug policy . Even though I feel drugs should be legal that is a difficult argument to win. Hail Zues
LwvilleGuy
November 7th, 2012
4:05 pm
I don’t think the Republicans should change a thing. I would beg them to keep doing the same thing. Keep bringing up these kooky candidates with outlandish theories about rape. Please keep on throwing red meat to the racists in your base. The more you do that the less likely you guys will ever return to power. 2014 is going to be a bad year for the Republicans because the Democrats will win the House and keep the Senate. Boehner has so bought into Mitch McConnell’s view that they shouldn’t do anything that would make Obama look good, that they’ll risk the credit rating of this country again just to score points. Last night’s results clearly showed that Americans are tired of their nonsense and will sweep them out. I just beg them to keep doing more of the same so that we can do it it 2014.
Evan
November 7th, 2012
4:07 pm
I think we pretty much shut things down for the day. Good work guys.
Evan
November 7th, 2012
4:07 pm
and gals…
Devil's Advocate
November 7th, 2012
4:10 pm
zeke’s post on Page 1 is the reason why the GOP didn’t win this year and why they won’t win 2016 if the sane members of the party don’t take control.
mehlman rings twice
November 7th, 2012
4:13 pm
Mr. President,
Please keep Rev. Lowery away from you inaugeration! His time is up.
cdpridg
November 7th, 2012
4:18 pm
No no Evan..lets not run out the door yet after your little temper tantrum. Lets back up to Butchs comment. Now start over and debate what he said rather than act like a child crying..whining and name calling. Try again…debate the facts stated Evan. I know you cannot.
cynthia roseberry
November 7th, 2012
4:18 pm
Jenny Beth, I hope all the smart folks in your camp listen to you because that would surely be the ticket to an even greater Democrat victory in 2016.
Mr. Thomas Anrhony Jones, SR
November 7th, 2012
4:23 pm
Joke on Us the Republicans lost the support of African-Americans in 1964 when President Lyndon Baines Johnson signed 1964 Civil Right BIll. This signing along with President Kennedy and his brother AG Bobby Kennedy calling up Judge Oscar Mitchell and getting King out of prison and also standing down Geoege Wallace at the School House Door and helping Mr. Meredith at Ole Miss and FDR’s New Deal combined to get us to switch over to the Democrats. The process took from 1932 until 1964. The Republican were slow to help us and the Democrats stepped in and helped us at crucial times. The fact that Storm Thurmond a racist segregationist who raped a 15 year old African-American girl in his parents’ home and then switched over to the Republicans in the mid fifties.
The Republicans should have kicked the racist Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms and other redneck garbage. The party of Lincoln should not let a white rapist who rasped a 15 yeear old African-American girl in it or that dog Jesse Helms. In 1968 Nixon came up with a stupid idea called “Southern Strategy” Why any one would try to get rednecks from the old confederacy to vote from them is racist. In 1980 Reagan went down to Philadelphia, Mississippi to kick of his 1980 presidential campaign. Again why would any fool go down to Philadelpia, Mississippi when the Ku Klux Klansmen there were not hanging from a tree for the murder of the Civil Rights Workers is a big Fool. Also ask many Republicans why they will not pander to us on the subject of Civil Rights, Hate Crimes, Affirmative Action, Racial Quotas and Set a Sides, Jobs, Education, Housing, Welfare, and Medical Care and the fools refuse to do it. If you want our votes give us what we want. When the racist Tea Party tells the Republicans to jump, the Republicans always jump. Well when we tell the Republicans to jump, jump. Otherwise we will stay with the Democrats who not only nominated an African-American as their presidential nominee, but helped elect an African-American as the 44th President as well.
If you can support the filthy Rich, the NRA, and the racist Tea Party, you can support us on what we want. Lastly, we do not like to a white congressman from the Deep South to call our hero a liar. Never call an African-American hero a liar if you want our vote. That is plain common sense. Do not call us Liars if you want our Votes.
Voter
November 7th, 2012
4:25 pm
@DJ Sniiper – Uh again wake up. Gas prices have tax on them, check your local County, State and U.S. Government on how much each one of them tax the gas and yes, hussein obama and the democrats had a majority during the 2008-2010 years and raised them. So know what you are talking about before writing,texting a vent/blog.
Aldo Raine
November 7th, 2012
4:26 pm
Oh nice work Evan???? pfffftttt
Angry Old Man
November 7th, 2012
4:27 pm
I guess the reason so many Democrats and Obama backers are on here gloating and given the Republicans advice is because none of them have jobs and they are living on the food stamps and hand outs that the working Republicans are paying for. Where is the expanding economy? Normally a new President will give a boost to the stock market but I see it is down over 265 points today. That is the leadership of Obama and the Democrats trying to tax our way out of debt and use the war effort money, which was already debt money, and build all his roads and bridges. To where? Talk about racism of the Republicans if you want but over 75% of the non-whites supported Obama. Also, the majority of the voters under 40 supported Obama but I guess they are okay with paying off the trillions of dollars in debt for the rest of their lives. I will give you this, we need to run better candidates and quit focusing on social issues that can’t solved by legislation and focus real issues like the economy and foreign affairs.
Voter
November 7th, 2012
4:28 pm
@Nativebird – Well said. Amen!
midtownguy
November 7th, 2012
4:29 pm
Three things the GOP has to accept in order to move forward: Women are NOT going back into the kitchen, Gays are NOT going back in the closet, and the Hispanics are NOT going back to their birth country.
Larry Harrison
November 7th, 2012
4:30 pm
Evan, Alabama has two (2) high schools ranked national in the top ten – where was Georgia’s rankings?
Cissy
November 7th, 2012
4:31 pm
Actually, Cherokee, Boortz predicted this all along. And Hannity and Limbaugh admitted today that they were wrong. As did Gingrich. Their mistake? Failing to realize how scared people are, is my bet.
And the Repubs didn’t run on hate. Really. Read their ideas. BUT–the Dem version of the Repub message was pretty hateful–enough to scare anyone who didn’t have the will or brains to do the research for themselves. (And research does not mean watching CNBC.)
That said, I do wish the Repubs would lose the far-right social conservatives. A lot of us don’t share their beliefs; and we are genuinely worried about what kind of debt burden we’re leaving our children.
Shorn of its emotion, Zeke’s message about who owns our money resonates: No one minds helping out people in need. That’s how the system worked for a couple hundred years in this country. But don’t most of us mind having our money confiscated and handed over to someone who has done nothing to earn it? I’m talking here about straightforward tax credits, not help for people who are disabled, ill, old, orphans–folks genuinely in need.
Our children may curse us for the choices we made this election. Obama has already said that jobs are not coming back; that we need to share what we have with the rest of the world; and that we need to understand that standards of living cannot rise indefinitely. Fine sentiments; but they don’t pay the bills. Basically, the message is this: Expect higher taxes and less for your money.
Is this really the best we could do?
Are you Serious?!?!
November 7th, 2012
4:31 pm
@ Zeke….
Dude, what in the hell are you talking about? You are living in a dream world. No one thinks you suck and you owe them because you are successful! You probably (might) suck because you are closed minded, fearful, and a tad bit insecure. America is for ALL, my brother. Immigrants that landed on Ellis Island AND the ones that make it across the boarder. Non-whites want the same as you– safe, quality schools for their kids, jobs, etc…basically a chance to make it in this country. Stop the lies man! Spread the Love!
Voter
November 7th, 2012
4:32 pm
@East Cobb Rino – I hear ya, it’s a sad era for America when 1/2 the voting population think the last four years is a good thing to go forward with. Like I said, are you working a job, with benefits? Think on this when obamacare hits and you get less in your paycheck and less healthcare. national healthcare has never worked. Why do you think when people have serious needs they come here to America? And watch gas prices continue to soar and unemployment rise and more people on food stamps and welfare. Then watch when the bottom falls out on these lazy people.
Evan who?
November 7th, 2012
4:32 pm
Evan’s gone. He had to leave his basement to outside and squint at the sun for a while. Big world outside.
The Mirror
November 7th, 2012
4:36 pm
Yes, they did run on hate, I have read their ideas.
It was the LYING that lost them the vote, because if you cannot admit TRUTH or REALITY you cannot adjust to it.
Al
November 7th, 2012
4:36 pm
@ Mr. Thomas
Why was a Black Panther at a polling station in Philly yesterday?
Why was a mural of Obama on the wall at polling building?
Why is it a black person can say mean,hateful things about Romney or any other white politician and its fine(not racist) but a white person says something bad about Obama automatically they are considered a racist? Can you answer these questions? Maybe Jesse jackson or Al Sharpton can help.
Look in the mirror first before you go playing the race card!!!
Libertarian
November 7th, 2012
4:37 pm
Good God…it’s funny how you Dems yammer on and on and on about the evil white man and how YOU are the TRUE party of inclusion and tolerance. Yet, Evan and Auntie Christ and a few others have insulted countless groups of our fellow American citizens on these mere 5 pages of blog.
Admit it…you don’t give a hill of crap about inclusion and tolerance…you’re just gloating because someone who you put a sign in your yard for won the election. Well, BRAVO to you. You are still every bit as nasty and F’ed up as the very people you are espousing against.
Inclusion and tolerance my ass.
Miss J
November 7th, 2012
4:40 pm
@Mr Thomas Anthony Jones
Also….
Ron Reagan did not want to sign the MLK holiday – but there were enough votes in Congress to overturn a veto so he signed it by default.
You want the B vote start including us and stop excluding us….
1.
creaative
November 7th, 2012
4:42 pm
does anyone on here have friends who voted for the candidate that you did not support. I am amazed at the hatred. One side says republicans are all racist redneck snake handling wife beating facists (most of those people don’t vote) and the other side says democrats are all worthless jobless food stamp collecting communist babies. get a grip people. Most republicans just feel the government is too big and they want spending under control and most democrats feel that they just want a fair shake for everyone. Most on both sides are inherently evil. As the only rational thinking libertarian here (just kidding), think before you type and realize that most people are decent whoever they vote for. It’s the Racheal Maddow’s and Sean Hannity’s that get you people so fired up. Relax, go work out, kiss your wife or husband, and call your mom and tell her you love her (even if she voted for the other party)
Fleming Island Hawk
November 7th, 2012
4:44 pm
The United States did not become the greatest country on the planet by taking money from the people (taxes) and then redistributing that money through stimulus plans, food stamps, etc. I worked for a small government agency and they could always find a way to spend the peoples money, but it was rare that they looked for a way not to. We’ve re-elected a president that says he’s created 5 million jobs, but since the unemployment rate is higher than when he took office, it doesn’t take a genius to realize that we must have lost more than 5 million jobs over the same period. I guess the electorate is not concerned with net results. We have 23 million people out of work, more people below the poverty level, and more people on food stamps. You can take every penny from the top one percent and you won’t put a dent in the deficit Mr. Obama has run up in four years. He criticized George Bush for the deficit he ran up in eight years and then proceeded to run up more debt in four years than all of the men that held the office before him including George Bush. Just as individuals are eventually held accountable for running up more debt than they can pay back, the government will be held accountable eventually. You can’t give away more than you collect from the American people forever. My fear is that instead of cutting non-essential programs (yes like the half billion that goes to public television every year) the administration is going to ask for more from all of us. The president said he cut taxes for the middle class by almost $3000.00, but gasoline costs $2,000.00 more per year, health care costs $2,500.00 more per year, and income is down by an average of $4000.00 per year. That is a net loss for the middle class. I love this country, but we are on a steady course to loose it.
Miss J
November 7th, 2012
4:44 pm
@Libertarian
Let’s see the REPUBS tell us they are for less Govt but they want to use the Govt to:
1. Tell us who we can marry.
2. We can’t have an abortion
3. We must speak English
4. We better follow the party line (like a Stepford Wife) and not deviate from it or risk being an outcast (i.e. Colin Powell).
So you think REPUBs include and tolerate…preception is everything my friend………DEMS got them by a mile on this one……….
STOP EXCLUDING AND START INCLUDING
Hilarious
November 7th, 2012
4:46 pm
I’m so glad the Fascists didn’t win the Presidency.
For all of you authoritarian, fascist-enablers, Love it Or Leave it.
Go. Get out. Head on over to Somalia, you should love it there.
Buh-bye!
midtownguy
November 7th, 2012
4:48 pm
I am as staunch a fiscal conservative as their is. I am also gay. So even if it bankrupts me, I can’t vote for a party who coddles the groups that openly despise me.
Miss J
November 7th, 2012
4:49 pm
The yound White and Black voters voted for Obama in record numbers…Wow REPUBS – There goes the REPUB party.
The young generation is for inclusion – wow go figure (is that not the American way)………..
Evan
November 7th, 2012
4:49 pm
Back from my lunch break you losers. I have already made a number of significant points on the previous pages. I would like someone serious to address them before I post anything else. I was actually mocking Butch’s comment with my obviously sarcastic rebuttal. I really could give two sh*ts about Alabama or Georgia, both states are backwards, rural, poverty stricken, under-educated, sh*tholes where racism is as normal and widely accepted as the fact that the sky is blue. I am proud to live in a modern, sophisticated, forward looking place like the Pacific Northwest. I have been to the south, and I have lived there as well and I would welcome the opportunity to permanently remove all traces of confederate ideology from this country. Ya’ll want to secede, bring it on. We can fuc* you over once again.