Your daily jolt: Georgia doesn’t need more abortion laws, says Hunter Hill

State Sen. Doug Stoner, the Smyrna Democrat whose district has been extended into Republican Buckhead, on Thursday night continued to draw out GOP challenger Hunter Hill on abortion and contraception. From the Marietta Daily Journal:

Hill said his opponents claim he’s been endorsed by Georgia Right to Life.

“It’s not true. I was endorsed by Georgia Right to Life in my 2008 campaign — incidentally, against Sen. Stoner — but I’m not endorsed this time around,” he said. “But to clear the record, I am pro-life. I’ve come to that belief through a lot of prayer and personal belief and talk with my wife, and that’s just where I am personally, but I don’t believe that we need additional laws at the state level to address this very personal issue.”

We’ve said it before: In this day and age, that’s a notably unusual statement from a Republican. But District 6, while thoroughly Republican, is a different kind of Republican.

That personhood question on the GOP primary ballot in July? It narrowly failed in District 6, 49 to 51 percent – while other pockets of GOP voters approved it with 2-to-1 margins. Toss in Democrats and general election independents, and a measure to give an embryo all the rights of an out-of-the-womb human being becomes an anchor, not a life vest.

This new 6th District also cast an estimated 51 percent of its votes for Mitt Romney in this year’s presidential primary – the only Senate district that gave the eventual nominee a majority of its votes. Rick Santorum, the unabashed pro-life candidate and social warrior, drew only 10 percent of the vote.

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Over at the Savannah Morning News, Larry Peterson quotes Mike Berlon, state Democratic chairman, as saying his party is preparing another court challenge to Georgia’s voter ID law – after next week’s election:

“It will probably take a while to wend its way through the courts,” Berlon said at a Savannah news conference. “But we feel pretty good about the fact that we’re going to win.”

…. Obtaining a photo ID, Berlon said, sometimes requires a person to pay for a certified copy of another document. That, he added amounts to an unconstitutional poll tax.

Moreover, he said, it’s inconsistent to require — as Georgia does — a photo ID for voting in person but not for casting an absentee ballot.

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With a multi-million dollar debt still lingering from his presidential bid, Newt Gingrich has taken a job pumping gas. From ARL Now, a local Virginia news website:

Gingrich, a McLean resident, will be appearing at the Pentagon Liberty gas station at 2300 Columbia Pike (next to Bob & Edith’s Diner) from 7:00 to 9:00 a.m., when the station will be offering gasoline for $1.84 per gallon. The event is sponsored by the New American Energy Opportunity Foundation, a group that promotes increased energy production in the United States.

…The $1.84 per gallon price reflects the price of gas in 2008, before President Obama took office and in the midst of the country’s economic crisis.

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With four days left to the campaign season, there are too many polls of likely voters out there to digest. But there’s only one poll of likely non-voters, courtesy of the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press:

Nonvoters are numerous; in 2008, they constituted about 43% of the voting age population.

Nonvoters favor Barack Obama over Mitt Romney by a wide margin (59% to 24%). While most nonvoters (64%) have a favorable view of Obama, just half as many (32%) view Romney favorably.

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The Washington Post quotes U.S. intelligence officials this morning as saying that the CIA rushed security operatives to an American diplomatic compound in Libya within 25 minutes of its coming under attack:

The agency mobilized the evacuation effort, took control of an unarmed U.S. military drone to map possible escape routes, dispatched an emergency security team from Tripoli, the capital, and chartered aircraft that ultimately carried surviving American personnel to safety, U.S. officials said…..

The decision to give a comprehensive account of the attack five days before the election is likely to be regarded with suspicion, particularly among Republicans who have accused the Obama administration of misleading the public by initially describing the assault as a spontaneous eruption that began as a protest of an anti-Islamic video.

No kidding.

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Obama adviser David Axelrod has threatened to shave his ever-present moustache if his boss doesn’t win on Tuesday. So the Washington Post sought some advice from an expert on upper-lip salvage efforts: U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Marietta, who ditched his lip hair in 2007:

Gingrey’s communications director, Jen Talaber, made it clear her boss is rooting for Axelrod to have a date with his Mach 5. “The congressman is hopeful David Axelrod will have to make good on his promise,” she said. She also offered a helpful suggestion for dealing with the equivalent of a farmer’s tan of the upper lip. “My personal advice for Axelrod is, if his upper lip hasn’t seen the light of day in 40 years, he better invest in some self-tanner,” she added.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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102 comments Add your comment

Puerile Pedant

November 2nd, 2012
9:29 am

Hunter Hill — flip flopper or disingenuous pol?

Axelrod — say goodbye to your “stache”; your boss doesn’t deserve re-election, but your opponent doesn’t deserve election. How about a do-ver? Hillary vrs. Chris Christie? At least that way we know our next President will have some huevos.

Voter ID opponents just don’t get it — the inconsistency of not requiring ID for absentee mail-in voting but requiring it for in-person voting is all about voter suppression, not preventing fraud. Given that the 11th Circuit and Supremes are controlled by GOP appointees, a little inconsistency and voter suppression will be no problemo. Better spend time getting minorities and old folks IDs. Many will still be refused the right to vote (especially latinos) but this is Georgia, its our tradition. Fergit Heck!

Uncle Billy

November 2nd, 2012
9:33 am

Axelrod can grow a beard. Obama in a landslide!!!

shoshanna

November 2nd, 2012
9:34 am

With 66% of the majority party in Georgia saying “YES” to a personhood amendment . . . it may be an “anchor” in his district, but if he has any aspirations of running for higher statewide office it is a “nail” in his coffin.

trueblueeagle

November 2nd, 2012
9:38 am

53,000,000 babies dead
1,700 a day
Our hands are covered with the blood of our children.

Tom

November 2nd, 2012
9:42 am

A “personhood” amendment couldn’t even pass on a general statewide ballot in Mississippi, the most bass-ackward lingering bastion of Bronze Agers left in the Union. It wouldn’t pass in this state, either.

LOL

November 2nd, 2012
9:46 am

@Tom: “bass-ackward.” I see what you did there. Very clever. I literally laughed out loud! Next time maybe make a cuss word but use $$ instead of ss. HIlarious!

Jaynie

November 2nd, 2012
9:54 am

Bass-akward is the socially acceptable (even to little old ladies) terminology for idiots here in the deep south, along with “bless his/her heart”. My 98 year grandmother uses both phrases regularly!

curious

November 2nd, 2012
10:00 am

trueblueeagle

November 2nd, 2012
9:38 am
“53,000,000 babies dead
1,700 a day”

You may need to check your math or did you mean for the last 85 years?

Newt pumping gas. With the economy like it was in 2008, it’s a wonder the oil companies weren’t paying us to use gas.

Shar

November 2nd, 2012
10:21 am

I applaud Mr. Hill’s willingness to subjugate his personal beliefs to the expressed will of the constituents he seeks to serve. The unfortunate reality is that, were he to win the office, the pressure exerted by his fellow Republicans to toe the party line on abortion would immediately supercede the views of the people in District 6. The Republicans are willing to allow candidates to say whatever is needed to win, but they will not tolerate office holders who actually seek to represent their constituents if those constituents disagree with party policy.

If the voters of District 6 want their views to be represented, they are much better off with Mr. Stoner.

bookman parrot

November 2nd, 2012
10:25 am

curious at 10am is worried about math.
tom at 9:42am is okay with killing babies/fetuses (for the lib crowd) when the mood strikes.

Buymadeinusjobs

November 2nd, 2012
10:31 am

Republicans will say anything to get elected , look into their past voting records/speeches, google names /check them out.what they did, believe that, they will be laughing at you voters who do not have sense enough to watch out for your pocketbook.. 41 % of Georgians fit Rommey’s video 47% moochers and you could be one tommorrow if have a heart attack, lose your job, or have to take low paying job. If you are not a millionaire , you should think twice about voting republican. Why do you think weathy are giving millions to org. like Crossroads/Rove, American Prosperity/KOch bros, Freedom works, 600 more. to buy your vote for a republican.
75% of all super pac money goes to tell lies against democrats. .
Why wouldn’t Republicans lie/ their leader Rommey does? Google CNN Archives, see what Rommey said in primary debates about FEMA- blocked to state/private, after sandy hit , yesterday he said he would support FEMA.
He said he would not increase taxes for wealthy even $1 for $10 in cuts, he said he would sign Ryan Budget 2011[all repubs. in Washington voted for.] which made medicare a voucher, cut 35% from medicaid when more seniors[aging population]/disabled may need nursing home care, more unemployed/low paid workers children will need medicaid gov’t healthcare, cut 17 billion from veterans programs ,when more veterans due to Republican unpaid for Iraq/Afgan wars. c span has votes, bills, budgets, speeches, hearings etc for washington politicians.

Georgia NEEDS more laws on hungar. No one deserves to go hungry, especially CHILDREN

November 2nd, 2012
10:31 am

@trueblueeagle

November 2nd, 2012
9:38 am
53,000,000 babies dead
1,700 a day
Our hands are covered with the blood of our children.

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Georgia needs to start worrying about all of the LIVING starving children.

The ten states that rank the highest in malnutrition were Mississippi, New Mexico, Texas, Arkansas, Maine, South Carolina, GEORGIA, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Missouri.

So, no matter where you live, chances are there is a hungry child nearby.

It can be easy to shut your eyes to this problem, especially when you have happy healthy children of your own, but for just a moment think of how the other parent may feel. They too love and care for their child but for some reason they are not able to give them enough food.

Shar

November 2nd, 2012
10:32 am

@Trueblueeagle: You are referencing legal abortions, not the estimated one-third of all pregnancies that spontaneously abort or the illegal abortions that women sought before Roe vs. Wade and would be forced to do again if that decision’s protections were nullified.

Abortion in the first trimester is safer for the woman than carrying a pregnancy to term and running the risks associated with maternal health in the US, which currently ranks below Albania and Poland in maternal deaths. Is the blood of those women not on your hands?

And what, precisely, have you done today for the millions of unwanted children who are suffering? For the women who cannot afford another baby and are pregnant? For the children who are abandoned, or who are born to mothers who did not want them and did not care for them and who thus carry the lifelong physical and mental handicaps of pre-natal abuse?

It’s very easy to talk and wring hands about “the unborn”. I personally gave birth to three children, and I can testify without hesitation that “the unborn” are a whole lot easier to deal with than babies who have to be cared for. Cheaper, too. While you agonize over the handy theoretical fetuses you don’t actually have to deal with, what have you done about the extremely needy and inconvenient unwanted babies and young children who are already here and desperate?

GaBlue

November 2nd, 2012
10:48 am

Shar @ 10:21,

Well stated. I’d like to add that the thugs at GRTL do not represent the majority or the people OR the Republicans. What they do is aggressively harass any elected Republican who does not cede to their demands, fully and immediately. Just ask Sharon Cooper (R-Marietta), a professed “pro-life” Republican who dared to expose serious flaws in last year’s HB-954. My own Rep, also a Republican, was against the bill, stating “I trust the physician to know what’s in the best interest of his or her patients.” This would of course be in line with the old-school (all but extinct) “smaller government” mantra of the Republican party, whereby individual freedom is to be protected against excessive government regulation.

But in the end, it was not worth the aggressive smear campaigns and personal intimidation this small group of fringe radicals launch against reasonable legislators, so many of them (including mine, what a disappointment) decide to roll over as commanded instead of standing up to them. One need only look at the unsolved burglary and arson crimes that coincided with last year’s legislative session to know that these fringe radicals put themselves above the law and the democratic process by which we are allegedly represented in our own government.

They should take note, however, that they will be brought into the light. No more hiding for Dan and his little band of troublemakers. Sunshine is coming their way.

Road Scholar

November 2nd, 2012
10:50 am

Newt pumping gas: He’ll probably think that the people are there to see him instead of getting cheap gas………When he talks, he always gives me gas!

Do they have a Tiffany’s there at the gas station?

Georgia NEEDS more laws on hungar. No one deserves to go hungry, especially CHILDREN

November 2nd, 2012
10:55 am

In 2011, 16.1 million or approximately 22 percent of CHILDREN in the U.S. lived in poverty.

16.7 million children under 18 in the United States live in households where they are unable to consistently access enough nutritious food necessary for a healthy life.

yuzeyurbrane

November 2nd, 2012
10:57 am

Hill sounds like he’ll fit in just fine with Romney. Wonder what his opinion will be if he gets elected?

Buymadeinusjobs

November 2nd, 2012
10:57 am

We can pump and steal all the oil from our children/grandchildren [safely stored in ground now] and let oil companies pay a pittance to taxpayers/Americans and make billions on it in the great OPEC speculative pot/ keep raising prices at pump for our gas. They are already exporting our oil, coal and natural gas and that is why they want keystone pipeline, google, i think it is koch bros involved so google them too. Some pipelines just leaked, I think in Mich. Water? How much will the rich charge us for it when they ruin ours?

Mexico has big advantage over us in low costs in energy for manufacturing, 1.00 a gallon for gas, they are not putting all or any of their energy/oil in OPEC speculation pot. We need to establish a American Taxpaper energy co-op and put all of our energy in it/no exports of coal, gas, oil, get our energy costs down for businesses and gas cheaper at pump for us. If we stay in OPEC pot, China/India, many other countries are developing and needing more energy so no matter how much we drill, drill, drill , it is not going to reduce our gas prices or help our businesses because we will pay OPEC prices which includes wall street speculation. We pay higher food prices because of high price fuel.

Georgia NEEDS more laws on hungar. No one deserves to go hungry, especially CHILDREN

November 2nd, 2012
11:02 am

A critical component to a healthy life is nutrition.

From birth, the intake of vital nutrients is essential to the growth and development of a healthy individual.

Good nutrition, particularly in the first three years of life, is important in establishing and maintaining a good foundation that has implications on a child’s future physical and mental health, academic achievement, and economic productivity. Unfortunately, food insecurity is an obstacle that threatens that critical foundation.

Georgia NEEDS more laws on hungar. No one deserves to go hungry, especially CHILDREN

November 2nd, 2012
11:06 am

Abortion is just a SMOKE SCREEN to turn the conversation

from FEEDING living hungry CHILDREN.

Its CHEAPER to give LIP SERVICE about abortion than

to give MONEY TO FEED HUNGRY CHILDREN.

DON’T BE FOOLED.

NoMoreRawDeal

November 2nd, 2012
11:06 am

Hunter Hill is right: we don’t need more abortion laws here.

What we need is a General Assembly more interested in working for the benefit of the people, as opposed to working for the benefit of themselves and their special interest backers. Wasting time on abortion legislation doesn’t help more Georgians find jobs.

Georgia NEEDS more laws on hungar. No one deserves to go hungry, especially CHILDREN

November 2nd, 2012
11:13 am

SHAME on Georgia.

Feed the children.

Matthew 25:45

Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.

Miss J

November 2nd, 2012
11:47 am

Damn GA needs jobs….we can worry about adding or taking aware someone’s rights later……………

Arlo

November 2nd, 2012
11:49 am

I am always amused at how the left always trots out abortion at election time. The real point is making abortion illegal will not stop it from happening. It is a trap perpetrated by democrats to get people to focus on a non-issue in order to sway votes.

just me

November 2nd, 2012
11:50 am

I’m confused as to how many conservatives do not want sex ed taught in school. don’t support no-cost birth control, would love to do away with welfare,… but also is against abortion. Hmmm….

Funny also that gay unions would NEVER result in unwanted pregnancies, and would most likely contribute to adopting these non-aborted babies, but they’re against that also!

Conservatives say they want smaller government but only AFTER they prevent you from making decisions for yourself and your family.

Vision and Values

November 2nd, 2012
12:00 pm

According to Sec of State webpage on Republican Personhood poll.
DeKalb 51 %
Fulton 52 %
Cobb 61 %
Looks like 6th Sen Dist is Pro-life. Especially among Republicans.

No Longer Republican

November 2nd, 2012
12:04 pm

Arlo are you an idiot???? The left doesn’t trout out abortion…it is the stupid crazy a$$ religious morons that make abortion a litmus test for all candidates. Get your head out of your a$$.

UPGRAYEDD

November 2nd, 2012
12:13 pm

“In my world, you don’t get to call yourself “pro-life” and be against common-sense gun control — like banning public access to the kind of semiautomatic assault rifle, designed for warfare, that was used recently in a Colorado theater. You don’t get to call yourself “pro-life” and want to shut down the Environmental Protection Agency, which ensures clean air and clean water, prevents childhood asthma, preserves biodiversity and combats climate change that could disrupt every life on the planet. You don’t get to call yourself “pro-life” and oppose programs like Head Start that provide basic education, health and nutrition for the most disadvantaged children. You can call yourself a “pro-conception-to-birth, indifferent-to-life conservative.” I will never refer to someone who pickets Planned Parenthood but lobbies against common-sense gun laws as “pro-life.”

Thomas Friedman

honested

November 2nd, 2012
12:40 pm

There is a solution to worrying about where mr. hill’s head is these days.

Vote for his opponent!

Doug Stoner 2012!!

honested

November 2nd, 2012
12:42 pm

visions,
Nice try, but that ‘personhood’ nonsense was ONLY on republican ballots.

Real Athens

November 2nd, 2012
12:44 pm

fed up

November 2nd, 2012
12:45 pm

Illegal or legal, how can any person with any decency be opposed to protecting the unborn?

MANGLER

November 2nd, 2012
12:56 pm

So if the 53 million were forced into birth would that mean there would be 65 million unemployed rather than 12 million, or would they all have been job creators?

RGB

November 2nd, 2012
1:06 pm

@just me – based on your reasoning, we should require that all marriages be homosexual in nature so we can eliminate abortions. Really?

@liberals in general: I never understand that fascination Democrats have with abortion. Their speeches are never characterized by regret when referencing the deaths of unborn children. Rather, they almost seem gleeful as if having an abortion is akin to winning an around-the-world vacation. Most abortions are an extreme form of birth control. And it’s no wonder that if you don’t care for the unborn that you wouldn’t care for seniors, the unemployed, or anybody else.

@UPGRAYEDD – The right to bear arms is Constitutionally protected. People use guns every day to defend themselves to prevent harm and injury to their families. In addition to the Second Amendment, what OTHER Constitutional amendments do you oppose?

Whatevs

November 2nd, 2012
1:07 pm

It’s funny how the very folks against abortion NEVER have an adopted child in their household. Yes… funny, indeed. They want to save all of the poor unborn children, force women to have children they don’t want for WHATEVER reason (it doesn’t matter), but offer no real solution to care for these helpless orphans.

Dramatic scene being played out in many suburban households today: “You got pregnant so it’s YOUR responsibility take care of your baby.” “Yes, sir. I’ll kindly carry it to term and leave it on the hospital’s doorstep, which will undoubtedly cause more strain on THOSE resources, so the baby will become a ward of the state which will strain THOSE resources, and they’ll survive on powdered mac & cheese and expired milk that some foster person will feed them. Then they’ll grow up bitter and angry because of their terrible lot in life, break the law and go to prison, where they’ll strain THOSE resources… Great idea! Thanks!”

Aaaaaand scene. *bows, exits stage left*

Georgia NEEDS more laws on hungar. No one deserves to go hungry, especially CHILDREN

November 2nd, 2012
1:11 pm

@fed up

November 2nd, 2012
12:45 pm
Illegal or legal, how can any person with any decency be opposed to protecting the unborn?

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Are you PRO-LIFE?

Are you PRO-NRA Right-to-Carry Firearms?

Do you WANT babies TO be born so that YOU can

KILL THEM WITH your FIREAMS?

sheepdawg

November 2nd, 2012
1:18 pm

if you discuss pro life, you must include gun control, global climate change, and for-profit wars in the equation

Gert Manheim

November 2nd, 2012
1:19 pm

So.. more live births leads to more unemployment and other societal ills, right? Well then, let’s just take half of the unemployed today, herd them into a gas chamber, and voila. The unemployment rate drops by half. While we’re at it, let’s do the same with impoverished children. Don’t much like looking at them myself.

You panty waist liberals are so big on killing folks inside the womb, let’s see you do it outside the womb. What your sorry arse is really saying is “out of my sight, out of my mind”. Nice try.

Seriously

November 2nd, 2012
1:19 pm

Where do i apply for a political blogger job at the AJC. All i need is copy and paste skills and a liberal slant to everything? Cool bro.

sheepdawg

November 2nd, 2012
1:21 pm

fed up- anyone with the intelligence and decency to realize its none of their personal business, and is the decision of the mother. its not a government issue, albeit the religious right keeps insisting it should be. the courts have spoken, get over it.

Mike

November 2nd, 2012
1:24 pm

would you be considered dense if you had been forewarned for over a week that a terrible storm was coming and you chose not to prepare?

DJ Sniper

November 2nd, 2012
1:30 pm

The abortion issue is one that consumes the right most of the time. They are the ones who are have proposed a boatload of anti-abortion legislation ever since the 2010 midterms. Bottom line, the decision to have an abortion rests on one person: The woman trying to decide whether or not to have one. Everybody else needs to stay the hell out of the discussion.

Bart Hill

November 2nd, 2012
1:32 pm

Have no problem with folks living on Jersey shore. Have problem with them being surprised their house was destroyed. For those who rebuild, I guarantee them the house will be destroyed within 100 more years. More like 50. Simple risk and reward.

RGB

November 2nd, 2012
1:34 pm

” for-profit wars”

Love you libs. At least you are consistent if not consistently wrong.

The USA won WWII over 3 totalitarian regimes because of what you call “for-profit wars”. Hitler took the top-down government controls factors of production approach and they lost.

American free enterprise gave us and our allies the tools to produce victory. Absent that, you’d be saluting the Fuhrer in 2012.

Libs don’t like reading, but I recommend “Freedom’s Fortress”. FDR and his cronies thought they could take over Business but found begrudgingly that Business saved our freedom. So this anti-Business mentality is long-held by the secular statists.

We don’t have 25 million people who are under/unemployed because we have too many businesses. That’s something the liberati will never accept.

As we speak, Janet Incompetano has temporarily waived the Jones Act which will (heavens) allow non-union tankers to bring gasoline into the Northeast in the aftermath of Sandy. Lesson: Needless government regulations have to be WAIVED in order to relieve the suffering of people. And the only reason Incompetano is doing it now is because the election is next week.

Gert Mannheim

November 2nd, 2012
1:38 pm

DJ Sniper – scientifically, what is the difference between a baby one day before passing thru the birth canal and one day after?? The baby is 100% dependent on the mother either inside or outside of the womb.

I suppose you are saying that our government defines scientific truth for us. Sounds dangerous to me.

Mary Chestnut

November 2nd, 2012
1:45 pm

Why would we put a woman in jail for smothering her newborn? Isn’t it her decision and hers alone? Or, maybe it’s a private decision between her and her pediatrician?

The emperor wears no clothes.

DJ Sniper

November 2nd, 2012
1:59 pm

Mary, stop trying to compare apples and oranges. What you just described is murder, which is illegal. Abortion is legal. End of story. Some of you may consider abortion murder, but again, the procedure is a legal one.

UPGRAYEDD

November 2nd, 2012
1:59 pm

We put her in jail because she has committed a murder. Abortion through the second trimester is not murder in this country.

Why wasn’t the law on abortion changed between 2000 and 2006, when the Republicans held the White House, the House of Representatives AND the Senate? Any legislation would have passed.

Because they know that do-do’s like you will keep voting Republican as long as this is an ISSUE.

Georgia NEEDS more laws on hungar. No one deserves to go hungry, especially CHILDREN

November 2nd, 2012
2:02 pm

@Gert Manheim

November 2nd, 2012
1:19 pm
You panty waist liberals are so big on killing folks inside the womb, let’s see you do it outside the womb. What your sorry arse is really saying is “out of my sight, out of my mind”. Nice try.

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YOU panty waist CONS are so big on telling people what they can and

cannot do with their bodies, but CONS KILL babies outside the womb

with YOUR FIREARMS and starving them to DEATH.

BE CAREFUL OF THE STONES YOU THROW.

UPGRAYEDD

November 2nd, 2012
2:08 pm

“Pro-life” can mean only one thing: “respect for the sanctity of life.” And there is no way that respect for the sanctity of life can mean we are obligated to protect every fertilized egg in a woman’s body, no matter how that egg got fertilized, but we are not obligated to protect every living person from being shot with a concealed automatic weapon. I have no respect for someone who relies on voodoo science to declare that a woman’s body can distinguish a “legitimate” rape, but then declares — when 99 percent of all climate scientists conclude that climate change poses a danger to the sanctity of all life on the planet — that global warming is just a hoax.”

Thomas Friedman