Billy Graham group removes Mormonism from list of cults

RomeGaGuy

October 18th, 2012
9:36 am

Billy must have dementia

Baron DeKalb

October 18th, 2012
9:38 am

I don’t know why Rev. Graham had to give away the store on this one, especially when his own heavenly accounting is fast approaching. He could just as well have said, “We still consider Mormonism a cult, but we are confident that Mitt Romney’s commitment to his faith is as superficial and malleable as his political positions.”

E-Roll

October 18th, 2012
9:40 am

“Our primary focus at the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association has always been promoting the Gospel of Jesus Christ,” Ken Barun, the evangelical association’s chief of staff, said in a prepared statement. “We removed the ( cult) information from the website because we do not wish to participate in a theological debate about something that has become politicized during this campaign.”

Let me translate this for you – Mitt Romney is the guy that we want you to vote for since he is the Republican and we can’t get you to vote for him when we are preaching demagoguery against his and other religions so those guys are cool with us now.

So if the next Republican candidate is a Jehovah’s Witness, Scientologists or gasp a Muslim will Franklin Graham have the same thought process?

Personally I do not care what any church says about politics because I keep both of them totally separate.

Glenn Dowell, Ed.D.

October 18th, 2012
9:47 am

Rev, Graham may have dementia, but I remember quite well his silence during the Civil Rights movement. This so-called minister is just an opportunist who appears to attract extremists like former idiot, Richard Nixon, and modern day buffoon, Mitt Romney.

In the name of God, just keep silent

eli

October 18th, 2012
9:53 am

Charlatan. That is the word that comes to my mind when I hear Billy Graham’s name.

I am curious how much Romney paid for this sudden change of heart. We will never know…it was probably a personal check from one his his Swiss bank accounts. You know, because honest people have those types of bank accounts.

None of this really matters. The fascist right will take a Mormon over a black guy any day of the week.

Bobby

October 18th, 2012
9:56 am

Yeah, he’s substituted gays in the place of Mormonism. He’s simply exchanged one form of discrimination for another. I’m sure God is rolling his eyes.

dixie

October 18th, 2012
9:57 am

Really, it’s all about the rich supporters, not about the poor folks sending in their $20 per month to get into heaven.

billy's legacy

October 18th, 2012
10:01 am

Well, remember when the country was in such turmoil about whether we should treat blacks as full fledged citizens and Billy Graham stepped in and spoke out for their rights and said we should love everyone, as commanded by God? Me neither.

MoFaux

October 18th, 2012
10:01 am

Every religion, by definition, is a cult. Some are just bigger than others. Some people need to learn how to use a dictionary.

Name (required)

October 18th, 2012
10:02 am

Too little, too late, Billy. You’ve got your ticket punched for some place other than Earth and your train leaves REAL soon. Dress lightly because I hear it’s downright HOT there.

jconservative

October 18th, 2012
10:02 am

Interesting development. And not isolated. Several protestant ministers have made a living bashing the Mormon faith only to suddenly “see the light” as it became apparent that Romney would be the Republican nominee.

Does that have anything to say about their convictions, or maybe, their lack of convictions?

If Mormonism is a cult, how does making Romney the nominee change Mormonism being a cult.
The Mormon faith has not changed. It is the same this year as it was last year. What changed was politics.

joejoe

October 18th, 2012
10:04 am

Enter your comments here

Tinder Boxx

October 18th, 2012
10:04 am

All this goes to show is how religion – which is theoretically NOT supposed to be a factor in politics, has permeated and polluted the process.

Rustycard

October 18th, 2012
10:06 am

Politics makes strange pew-fellows. How much is the evangelical movement willing to compromise in their stated beliefs? All the Baptists who explained to me patiently for years how Mormonism is a cult have had a conversion experience. The most segregated hour in America is a still hallmark of the Southern Evangelicals. And let’s not even get into the historic treatment of Blacks as second class citizens by the LDS church.

joejoe

October 18th, 2012
10:06 am

oh how ironic its suddenly ok to vote for a satanic cult member for president after decades of hearing christians tell me Mormonism was from the DEvil.
NOw its unchristian not to vote for a guy who believes he is a Kolobian space god

janet

October 18th, 2012
10:06 am

They don’t want to politicize his religion? Who can forget Sarah Palin’s little adventure to Haiti with Graham because she was such a caring, compassionate Christian. She got her photo op and left to never speak another word about Haiti… Same tune, different words.

lees

October 18th, 2012
10:08 am

Wonder what they must be thinking right now up on Kolob?.

Wilson

October 18th, 2012
10:10 am

Mormons don’t believe in the Holy Trinity — they believe God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost are separate entities.

Here are some quotes from BillyGraham.org:
In general, cults differ from Christian churches first of all in what they believe. Cults always deny some part of what the Bible teaches (which is why some add other so-called “sacred” books to the Bible).

The basic mark of any cult, however, is that it rejects the divinity of Jesus. The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ was God in human flesh—that He alone was both fully man and fully God. Cults, however, deny this, and often confuse people who aren’t familiar with the Bible by twisting its meaning.

I’d love to know what the argument is for concluding that Mormonism is not a cult.

Jimmy Canen

October 18th, 2012
10:11 am

The so called “fascist right” would be glad to have a black president. The problem is whenever we have a good prospect they get lied about and ripped and the public believes everything the LIBERAL media says. Nobody who runs the national debt up the way the last two administrations has deserves to be president. That has nothing to do with color!

Raymond

October 18th, 2012
10:12 am

Franklin has total control over his dad even where they be buried.

Bob Loblaw

October 18th, 2012
10:14 am

I can see the Grahams looking the other way and voting for a Mormon but to disavow something like the Graham’s are doing, here, is unnecessary and weakens their witness. I know they got a donation to the cause. This is so ugly. Presidents have had Billy Graham on speed dial since the 60’s and now, since he’s senile and his son doesn’t have the political authority of his dad, they do this…

Little boy wants Daddy’s power. He just weakened himself to the point where he’s going to wither like dry grass.

Robert

October 18th, 2012
10:14 am

“Our primary focus at the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association has always been promoting the Gospel of Jesus Christ,”

I know in my heart that these so called “Christians” will be “Judged” for what they do. Jesus said “These Things Abidith In Me – Faith, Hope and Charity – But the greatest of these is Charity which means love. May God have mercy on their souls. Amen.

OBAMACARE

October 18th, 2012
10:16 am

WHO CARES!!!? OHIO! OHIO! OHIO! OBAMA 2012!!!!

beachdog

October 18th, 2012
10:17 am

At least they still consider Unitarians a cult.

Joe Velardita

October 18th, 2012
10:18 am

How about all religions are cults. They meet all the criteria: dogma, ritualistic behavior, belief in a supernatural power. Wake up America: we’ve all been brainwashed since childhood. Think about it. A virgin birth? Only one set of genes? Come on.

Ken

October 18th, 2012
10:19 am

I now consider the Billy Graham evangelism association to officially be a cult.

Charles Milton

October 18th, 2012
10:19 am

Wow, all you guys really don’t get it. You are spewing nonsense just as the Pharisees did in the Bible. Don’t worry about Billy, he has a great home already established in Heaven. It’s just that anyone in their right mind would not vote for a muslim who bows down to foreign muslim leaders and has no respect for America! Check out the UTube video where he admits he is a muslim and quotes several koran items but leaving out the one where his god tells him to kill everyone not like him.

BW

October 18th, 2012
10:19 am

LOL….God this is such a cynical world…is it not completely obvious why they decided Mormonism is not a cult NOW?

GW

October 18th, 2012
10:19 am

I applaud Mr.Graham for meeting with Mitt Romney and hearing his personal confession of faith in Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. It is a man’s personal walk with our risen Lord that is the true test of a man’s walk with God. Only God knows a person’s heart and it is not anybody’s place to judge anothers commitment to Jesus. Yes, Mitt attends the Mormon Church and walks the Christian life whereas Obama claims to be a Christian and does everything he can to prove otherwise. Jesus said it best, “You shall know them by their FRUITS” Thank You Mr. Graham for your wisdom and Christian leadership. God Bless you Sir.

perry parks

October 18th, 2012
10:20 am

In the Last Days, even the elect will be deceived. I called the Billy Graham Ministries before this became public…I related my objections to Franklin deceiving Dr. Graham into endorsing Romney and the COST of this deception. You cannot imagine my shock when the person to whom I was speaking admitted their own fear.

It appears to me, after the Todd Akin affair, this candidate has no principles, integrity, or FEAR OF GOD. That is perhaps because his belief is that the Father God is a man of flesh and bones. This is revealed in the Doctrine and Covenants.

The Mormon Bible is composed of four books, The Bible, including scriptures added in Smith’s interpretation of IT, (2) The Doctrine and Covenants, (3) The Book of Mormon and (4) The Pearl of Great Price all four, including the Bible, are considered the Holy Word of God),

May God have Mercy on their Souls..

Dave

October 18th, 2012
10:20 am

Seems to me that if Billy were actually a religious leader as opposed to someone seeking influence using gods name, his opinion on this matter wold not sway so conveniently.

Was god less merciful last week? or is it simply problematic to endorese a candidate you call a cultist.

Billy, get right with the 4th commandment.

Ellen

October 18th, 2012
10:20 am

All religions are cults. That’s the whole point. They control you, tell you what to think, how to see others, how to vote, what to do with your money–all for the advancement of THEMSELVES. Please don’t fool yourself into thinking they actually CARE about you. Believe me, there are no bigger egos than the priestly class of any faith. God, Spirit, the Universe is far bigger, far greater than ANY religion. But dumb southerners are are merely religious sheep–led by their religious “shepherds.” Remember, the Kingdom of God is WITHIN–not with Billy Graham.

Peach Fuzz

October 18th, 2012
10:22 am

Well now, isn’t that convenient?

Joanne32a

October 18th, 2012
10:22 am

For a Christian who bases his hopes on a second coming of Jesus sometime in the future has to be a complete mindless nutcase. Graham has been such a futurist that he left the basic teachings of Christ and put everything off for some other time when Jesus comes back to rapture Graham and his baptist buds. There is not one scripture in the bible that teaches a “second coming of Jesus Christ”… none. Christ lives IN His followers … NOW. Apostle Paul clearly taught that. He continues to do that each and every day. Christ said He would come to destroy the old Jewish religion and that happened in AD70 when He used the Romans to do away with that entire system that was clearly trying to destroy Christianity. The kingdom of God is within His followers… with Christ changing them from the inside out. It has nothing to do with what Graham and others like him teach. ZERO

CLEMSONDUDE

October 18th, 2012
10:23 am

Christian Nazis are a cult…think about it.

Progressive Humanist

October 18th, 2012
10:24 am

That’s rich. You’ve got one cult that classifies another cult as a cult, and then when a guy comes along from the second cult whose political ideology the first cult agrees with, that first cult decides to give the second cult a pass on being a cult, not because of a consensus on religious belief, but just to help the guy get elected. Gotta love it.

Pit

October 18th, 2012
10:24 am

Everyone change depending on the current environment and time. We see and judge others but we never see ourselves.

Ann

October 18th, 2012
10:27 am

Well said, E-Roll. I concur.

Name (required)

October 18th, 2012
10:29 am

I just want to know why the millions donated to Obama from foreign Muslims isn’t making news.

Royce

October 18th, 2012
10:31 am

I’m completely amazed at the responses here. It reminds me of Mark 9:38-41.

38 “Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.” 39 “Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, 40 for whoever is not against us is for us. 41 Truly I tell you, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to the Messiah will certainly not lose their reward.

Georgia

October 18th, 2012
10:32 am

Wow what a tough issue. It’s just so upsetting to observe the Mormon’s presumptuous editing of our holy bible. This is like the Islam thing. Some christians dont believe in the virgin birth of Christ because it’s part of the doctrine of Islam. Do we exterminate false religions? Or do we share the planet and quit thinking we’re righteous, and let God sort us all out on judgement day? History recorded the result of our great great grandfather’s attempt to destroy Mormons. (Vengence is ours sayeth the Hoard.)

If only our bigoted and misguided ancestors had a crystal ball and could see how peaceful we now coexist with the Mormons, and how Mormons have produced amazing Americans like the Romneys.

Kit

October 18th, 2012
10:33 am

If you read carefully, the statement says merely that they have removed the cult information because they don’t want to get into a political debate over it. They haven’t taken Mormons off their list, per-say… they just took down the list. It’s a case of “we are removing this bad press page because it makes us look bad, and it makes this other guy look bad”.

Not that it really matters; I’m not a fan of either of them.

Shine

October 18th, 2012
10:35 am

And now the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association has proven it is a big phoney like the PTL Club and that kook Pat Robertson and the 700 Club. They will bend to anything or say anything to keep the $$$$$ flowing in.

Progressive Humanist

October 18th, 2012
10:35 am

Ah, yes, the cultists are out en mass on this thread, trying to substantiate and support their own subjective myths. I love to see people try to use fiction as a form of evidence. This should be good.

Joanne32a

October 18th, 2012
10:36 am

This is America .. the land of the free and the home of the brave…. You can believe whatever you like here in the good ole USA and you can also vote for whoever you’d like. As individuals we reap what we sow. As a country we reap what we sow.

John

October 18th, 2012
10:38 am

A keeper of “lists” should be discounted at face value. Take a few moments and recall history’s list keepers.

Elizabeth

October 18th, 2012
10:38 am

A few years ago the Charlotte Observer exposed Franklin Graham’s earnings and perks from his several evangelical businesses. It made me think “the Son of Man had no place to lay his head”
and it also made me convince my aged mother to quit giving to Franklin’s stupid “Christmas shoebox” project, which is a big deal in North Carolina. (You BUY a box for $5 then fill it up with trinkets for foreign children. It is delivered along with a religious tract.) Wonder how much moolah Romney contributed in order for Daddy Graham to have this revelation?

Royce

October 18th, 2012
10:39 am

As a member of the Mormon church (and definitely not as a spokes person) I amazed and pleased by this gesture of good will. While I know several people commenting so far seem to know everything about his God’s mind and will and eternal judgement, I think as there have been bridges of understanding built between the religions the Reverends Graham acknowledge that we all need allies to fight against secularism and the lack of faith in God and Christ that is spreading rapidly. Mitt Romney will be an allay to the Evangelicals and the good work they do in spreading the word of Christ. Go read Mark 9:38-41. Fortunately the judgment of Mormons and Rev. Graham will be up to God. In the meantime, embrace those who are fighting for the same things as you.

Stan

October 18th, 2012
10:39 am

All you rabid Obama supporters….just ready to tear Graham apart for your Machiavellian convenience. Religious matters don’t matter to you but woe to the the relgious person that interjects that opinion into the public discourse. I say horse crap. Religious opininon belongs in the public discourse just like your weak intellect opinion. Frankly, with the glass house that most of you are living in, I am surprised it hasn’t already shattered because of the non stop stones you throw.

gadem

October 18th, 2012
10:42 am

LOL…I guess when you support cults its OK as long as that cult leader is a Republican.

Juan

October 18th, 2012
10:42 am

A lot of hate and anger from a bunch of “so called” christians. You all ought to be shamed of yourselves, and go back and study your your bibles some more. Jesus loved and died for everyone……….

Name (required)

October 18th, 2012
10:43 am

Dear Evangelicals, it’s OK to vote for Mitt Romney. Just ask yourself, do you really want another four years of Obama?

Curtis Lowe

October 18th, 2012
10:44 am

Lawd, Lawd!! Dey sho is a lot o’ hatin’ goin’ on in dis here papuh.

Mormonicus of Borg

October 18th, 2012
10:44 am

Clearly Mr. Graham got a special message from the same place the Mormons got one back in the early 80s, when they decided to stop slagging on black folks and start admitting them to their priesthood and (most importantly) to the BYU football team.

And that place the special messages came from is THE WALLET.

Tyre Taylor

October 18th, 2012
10:44 am

What a hypocrite you are.I am ashamed that you took Mormonism off as a cult.You should be ashamed.I will never have anything to do with you again!

Stan

October 18th, 2012
10:44 am

Its better than supporting a cult that has Obama as the cult leader—-rewriting the Bible for his own comfort—-taking care of himself and trashing the Faith.

Doug

October 18th, 2012
10:48 am

What a shame. He could have just as easily said “while we have significant differences on matters of theology, we believe Mitt to be the best qualified candidate.”

blackbird13

October 18th, 2012
10:50 am

How conveeenient.

Tyre Taylor

October 18th, 2012
10:50 am

Stan you are a stupid idiot!

Ronald Regan

October 18th, 2012
10:50 am

Incredible, who cares what his declaration is. It is completely obvious what their objective is. Evangelicals blindly follow the Republican agenda which is oddly in contradiction with the very beliefs they hold dear. The point is the choice is being made for you; become an independent thinker. Consider not the opinion of political groups which obscure their true agenda masking themselves as a religious organization.

Charlie Jones

October 18th, 2012
10:52 am

After reading the article, I was okay because the BGEA association simply stated, “We removed the ( cult) information from the website because we do not wish to participate in a theological debate about something that has become politicized during this campaign.” Then, I read the comments to this article…that is what makes me sad. People have no understanding or regard for the faith that made this nation great. More importantly, very little to no regard for God. Sad, very sad that we have become so jaded. Scripture speaks clearly that there will be a day like the one in which we are now living…

Titandave

October 18th, 2012
10:56 am

Who are the “Franklins”?

Let's be honest...

October 18th, 2012
10:56 am

Obama is clearly the greatest threat to the American way of life. Four more years of his corruption will have America on the quick and steady decline as a respectable nation. Let’s be honest…he is THE problem.

I love Coca Cola

October 18th, 2012
10:57 am

They maybe confused, but none of that matters they are clearly fans of Coca Cola as obvious from the Photo. Mr. Graham for this you have my deepest respect. Obama drinks Pepsi and cool aid so I am voting for Romney!

Pat

October 18th, 2012
11:00 am

Actually, the real problem is the unopen coke on the table.

Booby

October 18th, 2012
11:02 am

You Democrats quit knocking Bill Graham. When all of you Democrats end up in Hell, Billy Graham will be the only preacher willing to go down and give you ice water.

To Joanne32A

October 18th, 2012
11:02 am

Joanne,

You are correct that Jesus lives through the Holy Spirit through his followers. However, the Bible clearly mentions a 2nd coming of Christ when the world will be judged. The 2nd coming will not be like the first. Jesus will return as a king and a warrior. He will reign.

Tyre Taylor is an idiot

October 18th, 2012
11:03 am

Stan is smart

RCB

October 18th, 2012
11:05 am

Let’s see…..Rev Jeremiah Wright or Rev Billy Graham. They both claim to be “Christans”. Who cares??? Religion is a very personal thing, as it should be. If you are basing your vote on religion, then you are part of the problem.

Splavistic

October 18th, 2012
11:06 am

repost: @tynlamzic Billy Graham does not have any “principles”, and nor does his son, save the principle of amassing influence. But I don’t see why his quiet change of direction on Mormonism should be a big deal: his career is based on the promulgation of a thing which necessarily requires extensive exegesis to square its circle, and immunity to the discomfort of cognitive dissonance. Why would he flinch at a minor adjustment to his stance on Mormonism, in that light?

RealTruth

October 18th, 2012
11:06 am

Is is not what they are really saying on their web site. http://www.billygraham.org/articlepage.asp?articleid=2077

Splavistic

October 18th, 2012
11:06 am

Oh for a time when America’s president no longer has to say that he/she is a Christian.

Splavistic

October 18th, 2012
11:07 am

@booby Nice name. Christian much?

Splavistic

October 18th, 2012
11:07 am

I use big words to make people think I am smart.

Brock

October 18th, 2012
11:08 am

Mittens even got the religious nuts a flip floppin.

matt

October 18th, 2012
11:08 am

News flash: Every religion that is different than your own is a cult.

RCB

October 18th, 2012
11:09 am

Matt….that’s the truth!!!!!

Norris T.

October 18th, 2012
11:09 am

See how easy it is to ditch your convictions when you are a conservative?

Splavistic

October 18th, 2012
11:10 am

“Romney is a Christian.”
“Obama may be a Muslim.”

Are code words for:

Romney is White.
Obama is Black.

Splavistic

October 18th, 2012
11:11 am

Real mature. You’re not the real Splavistic.

RCB

October 18th, 2012
11:11 am

Norris T….see how easy it was for Obama to ditch his pastor when he was running for Pres?

Splavistic

October 18th, 2012
11:11 am

I AM A HUGE RACIST

Splavistic

October 18th, 2012
11:12 am

Yes, name poacher, I use big words. Sorry if the command of the English language makes you ’skeered’. I will try to eschew obfuscation next time.

Ryan

October 18th, 2012
11:12 am

What is baffling to me is even after slavery, the holocaust, the civil rights movement, and every other discriminatory and abhorrently ignorant displays of evil in between, we still have an abundance of people who obviously have hard and hateful hearts against a particular group of people for no other reason but they don’t understand them or are envious. This is apparent by reading any of these anti-mormon/anti-wealth posts that obviously base their assertions on their own concoctions and machinations rather than fact. All you have to do is attend a single meeting at the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints and you will quickly realize that their entire faith is centered in Christ. Whether you believe in the religion or not is one thing. But to demonize or spread falsehoods about a group of people is bigotry. Also, stop hating on Romney just because he’s been able to accumulate a great deal of wealth as a businessman. What in the world has happened to our country when wealth and success are frowned upon? Our Founding Fathers are rolling over in their graves!

John K

October 18th, 2012
11:12 am

Too funny, all through primary season the fundies were saying they couldn’t vote for a Mormon, since he wasn’t a Christian. I guess they’re willing to compromise their faith for their vote.

wonder12

October 18th, 2012
11:13 am

Must have been encouraged by his racist son Franklin.
Obama 2012

Splavistic

October 18th, 2012
11:13 am

Oh, man, geez. Anonymous has hacked my AJC.com comment name. Whatever shall we do?

TechRon

October 18th, 2012
11:14 am

I do think that Mormonism is way off. When you look at the theology, it is so crazy that I cannot imagine that any person with normal common sense could be fooled by it. None of it adds up and some of it is downright zany. Romney believes it all, I guess. I still think he is a lot better choice for President than Obama. He has my vote. As a Christian, I find their religious beliefs strange and unsupportable, but as people, I find Mormons to be honest, hard working, moral, ethical, etc. If it comes down to Romney or Obama, I have zero problem backing Romney.

Splavistic

October 18th, 2012
11:14 am

If I didn’t have access to a thesaurus everyone would see me for the huge fraud I really am.

Ola

October 18th, 2012
11:14 am

Anyone with any common sense can see that Franklin runs the show now and he wants you to vote Republican. Do you remember when Obama went to see Dr. Graham and prayed with him? I did not see that in Romney’s visit.

Splavistic

October 18th, 2012
11:15 am

In light of Obama’s support for Gay marriage does Graham still think he is a Muslim?

I voted for Ralph Nader

October 18th, 2012
11:15 am

The Christian mentality is as follows:

“Your religion is different than my relgion. I know my religion is the right one because I was raised practicing my religion and I have never been exposed to other religions. Therefore, your religion must be a cult.”

Splavistic

October 18th, 2012
11:16 am

Nobody will be fooled by you.

Splavistic

October 18th, 2012
11:16 am

Wow, @fakeSplavistic, you know what a thesaurus is.

dotcom

October 18th, 2012
11:16 am

looks like ol mitt, is on the caffeine again…..(coke)………..sinner

Splavistic

October 18th, 2012
11:17 am

Seriously, you need to stop.

Auntie Christ

October 18th, 2012
11:17 am

Hey, I don’t care which god we’re worshipping as long as I get to rape, kill, loot and pillage in his name and for his greater glory. But it really is confusing when these leaders keep changing the lists of people I’n supposed to hate. It’s enough to make a guy think that maybe all this religious stuff is just a racket to make some people rich, like the grahams and that mr pope in rome, and keep others ignorant and stupid.

Booby

October 18th, 2012
11:18 am

Yee haw! Spit! Jeezus is my co-pilot!

Booby

October 18th, 2012
11:19 am

Billy and his spawn, Franklin, are perfect examples of the, tax-exempt, anti-semitic KKKauKKKasian right wing and equally perfect examples of what happens when aluminum siding salesmen take up religion. I pity those who possess little intelligence and believe anything they say.

Splavistic

October 18th, 2012
11:20 am

Mitt Romney will slowly subjugate to the will of his Church Elders, and we as a nation will transform into a theocracy. No amount of cognitive dissonance will stop our understanding of the true nature of the situation.

Gail

October 18th, 2012
11:22 am

I cannot believe this……NOW after all these years, we change what we believe to vote for a white Republican. Racism is alive and well……..I always loved you Billy…..now you must be getting senile.
ACTUALLY it is not just Billy, I have heard several people over the years that cannot stand Mormons, who now thinks MITT is the greatest. What hypocrites.

Booby

October 18th, 2012
11:22 am

@SplavisticFake Cognitive dissonance is not measured as an ‘amount’. Plain ole don’t make no sense, boy!

Splavistic

October 18th, 2012
11:23 am

@fakeSplavistic you are pathetic

Tom

October 18th, 2012
11:25 am

It is ashamed that Franklin will ultimately destroy the Graham name and association. Were it not for Reberend Graham’s dementia this would not have happened. When Reverend Graham was of sound mind he distinctly defined cults and listed Mormons among them. About 15 years ago an evangelist made the rounds to many southern Baptist churches preaching against these cults and the Mormons in particular. I can’t remember his name but it was totally sanctioned by the Southern Baptist.I as a Southern Baptist personally have found Mormons to be pleasant,nice people. I just don’t agree with their theology. I’m guessing the game changer for Southern baptist, though they will not admit it,was the election of a black President. This has led to a change of theology apparently. We should be ashamed.

Joe Blow

October 18th, 2012
11:25 am

Very interesting, opportunistic, and so on……. He cooked his goose with me when he came out of his royalness to garner support to write the homosexual population out of the state constitution in North Carolina on Amendment One. So….if I read a report that he held up a bank or liquor store, chances are that I wouldn’t even flinch. He showed his true colors that day, so much for a legacy….. Usually, if you give them enough rope, they will hang themselves. No surprises where this racket is concerned.

Booby

October 18th, 2012
11:25 am

@SplavisticFakeSplavistic Now THAT is cognitive dissonance.

Splavistic

October 18th, 2012
11:26 am

I have complete command of the English language. This makes my arguments impervious to assault. My wisdom is unmatched by any other mere mortal.

LanFan

October 18th, 2012
11:27 am

This is a question I have been wondering for a long time, how evangelicals could have been good with Mitt. I now see we are just supposed to overlook it. They still meet there definition of cult just not to calling it that. Still not changing my mind. But in Georgia my vote will not matter. But it still gets me Sunday knowing that most of the people around us will be voting for a cult leader.

jhette

October 18th, 2012
11:28 am

for those who don’t know, mormon’s believe we all can become God and will become God with our own kingdom. people should research the mormon belief system.

ironically, the antichrist is said to call himself God. just saying…

do your own research.

Gregory Pressley

October 18th, 2012
11:28 am

You know, it is reall amazing to me how evangelicals want something to fit their needs they decide it is not a cult anymore. I wonder if the evangelicals really know what a cult is.

Rick

October 18th, 2012
11:29 am

LanFan, you are part of the problem.

Unashamed of JC

October 18th, 2012
11:29 am

I John 4:1 of the Bible says “…do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God…” Grahams, don’t be deceived. Mormonism is a cult because it believes the Bible is incomplete and that errors have been introduced. It has therefore taken the liberty to create other so called “sacred” texts to “add to” the Bible. I John 2:22, 23 says “Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either.” Mormons don’t believe Jesus is divine so why would you all feel at ease to suport Romney and take Mormonism from your website listing of cults??! Are you now diluting the gospel you have preached for years?? You denounce the ways of Islam, are you now cowarding down to a wealthy politician because it looks bad? President Obama is not perfect but he has been baptized into Christ and believes Jesus is God – and is working hard to turn this nation right side up. Economically and with regards to protection from extremists. What is your problem? Anything you preach in a crusade from here forward means nothing to God if you don’t repent. I am a fellow Christian sister and according to the word of God I can judge you. So take heed “brother” and don’t sell out.

Clark (that is my real name)

October 18th, 2012
11:29 am

It’s about time. Mormonism is not a ‘cult’ any more that Jehovah’s witnesses are ‘cults’. I hate the term simply because AMERICANS CAME HERE TO PRACTICE RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS!! doesn’t matter if they are mormon, hindu, buddhist or muslim. The idea that somehow evil has come from a protestant rhetoric having to ‘eat crow’ and vote for the guy they have labeled for years is poetic justice. Their basic beliefs are the same as every other church. Christ is Lord, God is our Father in heaven and The Holy Spirit confirms the first two. Some of you people really need to learn how to read!!

Booby

October 18th, 2012
11:32 am

@fakeSplavisticFakerThanFake You sound like you just got back from DragonCon. You don’t have to speak like a SciFi nerd to sound intelligent. Just sayin’.

George

October 18th, 2012
11:34 am

That is a dam shame only a fool would believe it though .Any educated person knows that Mormons are a cult and a racist group.Graham should be ashame of himself.

Mike

October 18th, 2012
11:36 am

So much hate for Rev. Graham. Sounds like all the condemnation of
Pres Obama and the wonderful Rev Wright for his holy teachings. Oh, wait that didn’t happen.

Jenna

October 18th, 2012
11:36 am

Obama is a Muslim, so why are we even debating whether being a Mormon is a questionable religion for our country’s leader? The nitwits of this country had no problem electing Obama even though he is most definitely NOT a Christian, so this is a non-issue really.

Booby

October 18th, 2012
11:36 am

In case you couldn’t figure it out, I am really Splavistic. (I’m sure you didn’t know that you fake idiot.)

Splavistic

October 18th, 2012
11:38 am

@fakeSplavisticFakerThanFake You sound like you just got back from DragonCon. You don’t have to speak like a SciFi nerd to sound intelligent. Just sayin’.

Pot, meet Kettle.

RCB

October 18th, 2012
11:38 am

When “pastors” live like royalty with mansions, multiple cars, flashy clothes and jewelry, etc, while collecting tens of thousands of dollars from congregations living at/near the poverty line, I call THAT a cult. Depends on what your definition of “is” is.

Miss J

October 18th, 2012
11:39 am

Wow…..now that Mormanism is removed from the cult list does that mean it’s a legitimate religion?

Ok…Whew now I can go out and vote for Mitt.

Al Oliver

October 18th, 2012
11:41 am

>“We removed the ( cult) information from the website because we do not wish to participate in a theological debate about something that has become politicized during this campaign.”

Looks like Graham Incorporated are also fine with deception. Help me now, who was the first deceiver according to the Bible?

Oh right. Satan. And they follow right along in his footsteps. I’m guessing these words no longer have any meaning for them-

“You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. ………Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” -J.C.

I voted for Ralph Nader

October 18th, 2012
11:41 am

Christianity is a total fraud. For centuries the Christians have used their religion to support the slave trade, to take away women’s right, and to ultimately wage war against anyone who holds different beliefs than they do. More wars have been fought over Christianity than for any other reason. And America is more segregated at 10 AM on a Sunday morning than at any other time of the week. I spit on Christianity and its evil influences.

Mahopinion

October 18th, 2012
11:42 am

Christianity is a cult.

GaBlue

October 18th, 2012
11:43 am

Yes, how convenient.

**snore**

I voted for Ralph Nader

October 18th, 2012
11:44 am

And, this should go without saying, but voting for Ralph Nader should make you think I am extremely intelligent, and so you should listen to everything I say.

Tony

October 18th, 2012
11:44 am

All religions are cults and all cults are religions. The main difference between a religion and a cult is a religion is accepted and a cult isn’t. If you believe that God resides on a planet near the star Koloff in faraway solar system….you’re are a fool. If you believe that Native Americans are a lost tribe of Israel….you’re a fool. If you believe in magic underwear….you’re fool. If you believe that St. Peter and Joseph Smith will be there to usher you through the pearly gates….you’re a fool. If you believe that black people wear the mark of Cain…you’re a fool. So by definition if you are a Mormon you are a fool!

jf

October 18th, 2012
11:45 am

It is so sad that people feel the way they do about our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. I am here to tell you that religion in itself will send you straight to hell. The Bible does not mention, Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, Jehovah Witnesses and so forth. It does tell us to beware of false teachers. With this being said, the Bible tells us that the only way to the Father is thru Jesus, His Son. The Bible says, “I am the Way, the Truth and the Life and no one comes to the Father except by Me”. These words were spoken by Jesus, who came to give His life so that we might have life eternal when we die, if we believe and confess with our mouth that He is Lord. Also, notice that the Bible didn’t say a way, but the Jesus is THE Way!!!! I am sorry that the Grahams felt the need to do what they did. I don’t share Romney’s faith and convictions, but at least he does have convictions and I can just pray for him. The reason that our world is in the mess that it is in now is because our lack of convictions and lack of Godly men to lead us. If you remember, the reason our forefathers came to America in the first place was to worship God. Read your history!!!

can't believe it

October 18th, 2012
11:45 am

lost all respect for Billy Graham

Tony

October 18th, 2012
11:48 am

My life is miserable.

itamazesme

October 18th, 2012
11:50 am

AMEN!!! JF – God wants a relationship NOT a religion and it seems that most if not all in politics and some in ministry are missing that relationship.

Billy Graham

October 18th, 2012
11:50 am

Everybody, I respect your opinions. Look, I can’t say this on my website, but I still think it’s a cult. We just can’t have four more years of this buffoon in office. So just vote for Mitt and let’s get our country back on track. Then we can go back to hating Mormons.

Memaw

October 18th, 2012
11:50 am

If taken off a cult list, why NOW. Doesn’t make sense, Romney stops and makes a visit to the Rev. G and changes immediately start happening, so what was promised on that mountaintop???? Hope those men realize that our Lord is an all knowing God and can listen in on all conversations eve one about the 47% and birther issues….

drew

October 18th, 2012
11:51 am

Ghandi once said, “The only thing wrong with being a Christian…are other Christians.” So true…Religions love to put each other down. Wonder what God thinks about that?

The real truth

October 18th, 2012
11:51 am

What coincidental timing.

AJC.com Moderator

October 18th, 2012
11:53 am

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That's the way it is

October 18th, 2012
11:54 am

As a man I’d love to have a different woman in bed everynight to lay the pipe to… Now I ask how many of you women are willing to share your husband or boyfriend with many other women?? That’s kinda what mormons do… So yeah it’s a cult but who cares let’s all convert! I mean hey I love women!!!! As for who is president… I’d vote for any Idiot as long as the current Idiot is gone… Why should I care if he is qualified to run the country.. Those who voted for obama 4 years ago didn’t care… (little o was used on purpose as I have Zero respect for it) Watch I’ll show you how it works… Bush.. Did ya’ll see that? There’s the respect…

A Bible Reader

October 18th, 2012
11:56 am

Wilson: The bible is very clear that Jesus is not in fact God, rather, his only begotten son whom he sent forth to the Earth. There are countless scriptures that back up this fact. So called “christian” churches have lied to their members for generations. These lies, along with the idea that God would act along with Satan to punish people in a fiery hellfire forever are not backed up by the bible. I don’t expect you to agree, nor do I expect you to ever accept the truth about these matters. Just had to go on record since you were pretty blatant about this fact-wrong as you are.

Big Al

October 18th, 2012
11:59 am

If Jesus and all his disciples actually existed then where are they buried? Why is it that religious figures that existed thousands of years before Jesus have actual burial places that people can visit, yet you can’t find the burial places of anyone mentioned in the Bible? And why is the Bible the only mention of Jesus life. There were other writers who lived in the Middle East at the same time as Jesus yet none of them wrote about him and his supposed miracles. If Jesus was running around raising the dead and turning wine into water then you would think other people would write about it, but nobody did. The lack of proof makes you question the entire validity of the Christian religion.

Are you serious?

October 18th, 2012
12:04 pm

Just in time for the election. I guess it’ll go back on the list after the election if President Obama wins.

BobDog

October 18th, 2012
12:12 pm

@ Glenn Dowell Rev, Graham may have dementia, but I remember quite well his silence during the Civil Rights movement
——————————————
I wondered about Graham’s civil rights record, especially knowing he grew up in North Carolina. Here is something I found on him on Wikipedia. Wrong?

From the mid-1950s on, Graham became increasingly opposed to segregation and racism, while keeping his eye on public opinion. For instance, in 1957 he invited Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. to join him in the pulpit at his 16-week revival in New York City, where 2.3 million gathered at Madison Square Garden, Yankee Stadium, and Times Square to hear them.[3] Graham never appeared publicly again with King, but he posted bail for the minister to get him released from jail in 1963 during the civil rights protests in Birmingham

Karen Rust

October 18th, 2012
12:12 pm

we are choosing a president not a pastor……………….look at the fruits from the last four years without casting blame and condemnation.

kray

October 18th, 2012
12:13 pm

This really surprise me that the Grahams’s would endorse Mitt Romeny and Mormanism. How can a Bible Believing Christian vote for Mitt who is apart of an Occultist Religion. However, I guess any ole White Person will do and I have no respect for Franklin Graham and I”m sure he had a lot to do with his Father making that statment along with the check that was written for the Graham cause, or should I say the Franklin Graham cause.

Bob Barker

October 18th, 2012
12:14 pm

Can’t we all just get along???

That's the way it is

October 18th, 2012
12:15 pm

@ a bible reader… so the holy trinity is a lie huh? Jesus is God in the flesh you idiot.. Satan used a serpant back in Genisis and God had Jesus in the new tesiment…
@ big al.. Jesus was placed in a tomb and rose on the third day.. There is no body…
and my great great great great great great great great great great great great great Grandfather wrote about it… In fact Mark, Luke, James, Matthew and many others wrote about it too…..

Reggie

October 18th, 2012
12:15 pm

It is what it is! Now, look who is trying to be politically correct! The ultra conservative right, trying to hide Romney’s background so he can gain. If you literally think about it, America is suppose to be a country with freedom of religion. Therefore, we should not try to force our views on religion toward others. Unfortunately, that is what the ultra conservative right wingers try to do. What is going to happen in 12-20 years when Obama is no longer in the picture and you have someone who is not a christian either president or about to become president? Are we going to attack them based on religion, call them a Muslim, Buddist, or whatever? As stated earlier, it is what it is! Mormonism is about many marriages, hatred, racism, and other bigotry. But, to be politically correct, or to keep a good black man out of office who is trying to better America for ALL Americans, Graham and others choose to hide behind their ignorance!

kray

October 18th, 2012
12:15 pm

Also, the way the Billy Graham is looking in that photograph, I’m sure he doesn’t know what today’s date is or the year we are current in or what day of the week is today. Shameful!

Patty

October 18th, 2012
12:16 pm

Every religion has believers in the Lord Jesus Christ as well as non-believers on the rolls of their church. It’s a personal relationship with Christ that matters, not the branding of a religion that makes a person a ‘Christian.’

That's the way it is

October 18th, 2012
12:17 pm

And for those who keep saying black… obama is half n half morons… I wouldn’t vote for the black half or the white half…

BigAintheBigA

October 18th, 2012
12:20 pm

This really isn’t much in the way of news. The Grahams are good folks but they’re not the Baptist Popes or anything.

Bob

October 18th, 2012
12:22 pm

Billy Graham is one Baptist Minister,

The Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) which is the 2nd largest Denomination in the United States (Catholic #1) Still Lists Mormanism as a cult. Top 5 Cults According to the SBC are: The Mormon Church, Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Worldwide Church of God, the Unification Church (the Moonies), and Christian Scientists (Scientology).

emo

October 18th, 2012
12:23 pm

I used to know a lady who said “I can’t vote for somebody who thinks Jesus and Satan are brothers!” I’m sure she’ll hold her nose and vote for him, though…

Shine

October 18th, 2012
12:24 pm

the Graham kook society wants to distance themselves from the Mormon as a cult thang simply because they dont want to be involved in the politics of it. That’s why they have no stand on gays, abortion, and practically any other social issue like pre marital sex, adultery, etc etc etc …Its just too political for these hypocrite phoneys to fathom….gag

atllaw191

October 18th, 2012
12:26 pm

I was instructed as a young child to read all of their books, listen to all of their broadcasts, and now to know they were only spewing what ‘THEY WANTED ME TO KNOW’ like reading only the parts of the Bible they wanted me to learn, not the “other parts”…seems like a sham now, doesn’t it. “Train a child in the way he (sic she) should go and he will not depart from it.” now so trite…I find it incredibly damning that the way they have lived will determine the way they have died!

Ghost

October 18th, 2012
12:28 pm

Shows you the depths of the religious right’s hyprocrisy. They had to get Romneny of “the List” in order to try to get him elected. What happened to sticking to your convictions in times of adversity?

BobDog

October 18th, 2012
12:32 pm

@Big Al

Those darned Romans weren’t very good at preserving graves. I recently had the opportunity to visit the sites where the Apostles Paul and Peter are buried. St. Peter is buried beneath St. Peter’s Basillica in the Vativan. St. Paul is buried nearby in Rome.

Billy

October 18th, 2012
12:36 pm

I still believe it to be a cult, but after searching on the internet for a simple, scriptural explanation, other that fruitcake sites, I can’t find one. I vote GOP, so MR’s mormonism won’t stop me in the slightest. I sure would like to get a definitive book on why this a cult. Someone loaned me a book back in the early 80s on how the various denominations were in scriptural error. I grew up a baptist and was shocked that they had some scriptural errors. I swore off going to anything that was denominational at the time, but have since mellowed out. I go to First Assembly in Griffin; it’s not perfect, by far, but for a denominational church, it’s mostly scripturally correct. The pastor is a respecter of persons to a small degree, but then again, apart from his preaching from the pulpit, I don’t like him, either…

Kim Huffman

October 18th, 2012
12:39 pm

What is the evil Mormon kryptonite, Coca Cola doing in the picture…is the dead looking guy in the center trying to kill off Mitt?..call the secret service, quick!!!

Bob

October 18th, 2012
12:41 pm

From an evangelical perspective, Mormonism is not faithfully or soundly Christian because it deviates from historic, biblical standards of orthodox Christianity. For example, Mormonism teaches that God the Father is an exalted Man, that Jesus, angels, and human beings were all the literal spirit offspring of our “heavenly Father and Mother,” and that the ultimate goal of the Christian life is to become exalted to Godhood ourselves. The LDS Church derives these doctrines from its expanded canon of “scripture” that includes alleged modern revelations given to Joseph Smith, who claimed to be the Prophet through whom God restored true Christianity to the earth.

http://www.4truth.net/fourtruthpbnew.aspx?pageid=8589952813 (North American Mission Board of the SBC)

Anne

October 18th, 2012
12:43 pm

Just shows anyone/anything can be bought and sold. There is a reason we were founded with a Separation of Church and State/(government).

Bob

October 18th, 2012
12:44 pm

BTW – as a Baptist I will still vote for Romney. We can’t withstand 4 more tears of Obama’s mismanagement of the Economy, and our Nation…

lefty_316

October 18th, 2012
12:46 pm

Billy Graham considers Unitarianism to be a cult? How dare he. The great Joseph Priestley, one of the Unitarian founders, was a brilliant man, a poly-math of the first degree. Bill Graham is a stupid backwoods hick from Oklahoma.

I’m simply amazed that there are still people in this country so incredibly ignorant that they believe the Bible is word-for-word true. The Southern Baptists, the Pentecostals, the Assembly of God……I have nothing but disdain for the literalist beliefs these uneducated fools.

Joanne32a

October 18th, 2012
12:46 pm

AD70 was the end of the Jewish religion as the world knew it. Jesus prophesied that it would be destroyed in Matthew 24. That is the only time He said He would come … not some other time way out in the future as Billy Graham has taught all of these years… along with Hagee, LaHaye, Lindsey, Camping. The “second coming of Jesus Christ” is not in the Bible… anywhere.

He came INTO His followers on the Day of Pentecost and continues to live IN His followers today.

It has nothing to do with any “second coming” in this or any other generation.

AD70 ended the old Jerusalem … and all of its Jewish practices… temple, feasts, priests, etc.

Jesus said … “this generation would not pass away until all of these things happened” The generation He was talking to was the one standing right there with him. Remember audience relevance. Stick to the correct tenses and you will find the 1st century generation of believers were the ones going through tribulation… not our generation which is what Billy Graham has taught all these years.

MoveOnForward

October 18th, 2012
12:49 pm

I don’t care, i’m votin for obama. I wants MY FREE HEALTH CARE, MY FREE CABLE, AND MY FREE SECTION 8 HOUSE!

Proud American

October 18th, 2012
12:50 pm

I am a Christian and who are Billy Graham and his son, God. So, just because Billy Graham and his son say so, or remove this we are suppose to say. Well, okay just because they said so. I hate that they are letting their political biases get in the way. If you check their past records, they have never embraced a Democrated President. Sad.

kjh

October 18th, 2012
12:51 pm

i always felt that billy was the one preacher that couldn’t be swayed, but you lost me on this one billy.

Jeff H

October 18th, 2012
12:51 pm

TechRon wrote at 11:14 that Mormonism is a theology “so crazy” and “downright zany” and that he “finds their religious beliefs strange and unsupportable”. He then says Mormons, as a people, are “honest, hard working, moral, ethical, etc.” Here’s my question for others to consider: how does a mormon theology which RonTech characterizes as crazy, zany, strange and unsupportable produce a mormon people that is ” “honest, hard working, moral, ethical, etc.”? Another question for others to consider: What’s crazy, zany, strange and unsupportable about a theology that produces people who are honest, hard-working, moral, ethical, etc.?

Brenda

October 18th, 2012
12:54 pm

Shame on you.

Joanne32a

October 18th, 2012
12:54 pm

Hey Billy Graham housekeeper/chef/waiter/maid …. You could have kept the Coke cans in the kitchen.

Exrider

October 18th, 2012
12:57 pm

Did Graham also determine that the Mountain Meadows Massacre was not a mass murder?

Know them by their fruits.

emo

October 18th, 2012
1:08 pm

Hey, Joanne32a, where you been? There are still plenty of Jews around, who folllow their religion faithfully, just not with the Temple and sacrifices. You’ve mentioned this twice now, and one could get the impression you might have a “Jewish Problem”. Maybe you should read Constantine’s Sword by James Carroll, a former Catholic priest, to see where that leads.

Lynn

October 18th, 2012
1:14 pm

And if I gave a rat’s behind about any of the Grahams (which I don’t, as I don’t trust those who are “professionally religious”), this might mean something. But I don’t, and it means nothing. Wait, I take that back. If the Grahams are supporting a person, that person is likely ethically challenged and not someone I could ever support.

gm

October 18th, 2012
1:18 pm

Does this surprise anyone? This is the same Billy Graham who refused to help Martin Luther King while he was being beaten during the civil rights era, its ok to change our principals and belief as long as you dont support the black guy who confess to be a christian.

Who in their right mind can take white evangelicalism preachers serious? after they preached the bible in one hand and rode with the klan the same night.

Hopper

October 18th, 2012
1:20 pm

And with this courageous decision, the Billy Graham Ministry moves purposefully into the 19th century.

WPDP

October 18th, 2012
1:23 pm

Dear Obama Supporters:
The Billy Graham Evangelical Association does not keep a keep a list of cults. So Mormonism was not removed from the imaginary list. All that happened was that Billy Graham endorsed Romney because it is believed he is better for America and Christian values than Obama. He says, ” I hope millions of Americans will join me in praying for our nation and to vote for candidates who will support the biblical definition of marriage, protect the sanctity of life and defend our religious freedoms.”

lefty_316

October 18th, 2012
1:23 pm

Joanne32 if you will do a bit of research you’ll find that the very first Christians, a sect that was established around 80 AD, were called the Ebionites. They were based in Jerusalem and believed Jesus was the Messiah. They did not, however, believe in the immaculate conception, nor the resurrection, nor the divinity of Jesus. They were the original Christians and their beliefs were mainstream at the time.

It wasn’t until much later, until the authors of the New Testament got ahold of Jesus, that he turned into a whiz-bang miracle man who got up after being dead 3 days, brushed off the dirt and got on with things. Chrstianity, in fact, was doing just fine until the authors of the New Testament came along and totally corrupted it.

Tag

October 18th, 2012
1:29 pm

All religions are cults.
All are based on faith not fact.

Danny Haszard

October 18th, 2012
1:34 pm

Destructive cult or benign religion?

The *Cult* word gets overused,but in some cases it is appropriate.
The definition of a destructive religious cult is like alcoholism-if booze controls you instead of the other way around you are an alcoholic.
I was in the Watchtower society Jehovah’s Witnesses,they are not benevolent and won’t let you leave their organization in peace.The Jehovahs are not without scandals-child abuse,deceptive mind control tactics, sex scandals, money scams, general bad behavior.
Is it a cult?
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck….
Danny Haszard *tell the truth don’t be afraid*

PlaonTruth

October 18th, 2012
1:41 pm

Anything european created is a CULT !! Therefore Billy Graham and Mitt Romney are all occults. Christainty is the same filth that was instrumental in slavery. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doug

October 18th, 2012
1:41 pm

Whiff, whifff, I smell money and power. Move over principles.

Robert Wayne

October 18th, 2012
1:42 pm

Just another slick ploy by Romney! He knows he is in a cult or he would not have visited Graham. As for Billy Graham. Shame on you for selling out! I have lost all respect for you!

Paul

October 18th, 2012
1:45 pm

For a history lesson – almost 1700 years ago the church met and established the Nicene Creed – we Christians believe in the Trinity – a couple hundred years ago a man in New York found gold tablets that he used to define his belief in 3 gods – the father, the son and the holy ghost. So now – Graham says the 3 gods are not a cult? So what god is Graham praying to? – the Trinty or some other set of gods?
And for those “Christians” who say the Nicene Creed is wrong – in the beginning was the Word – and the Word was God and was made flesh….or see the http://www.spurgeon.org.

Dirty Dawg

October 18th, 2012
1:47 pm

Wonder what that cost em? He’s bribed every one of his former Repug opponents to either say something nice or not say nothin.

Jed

October 18th, 2012
1:51 pm

On the subject of civil rights:
You can espouse all the lies about Billy Graham you want, but he’s still the man who once bailed Martin Luther King Jr. out of jail in Birmingham and once told a white audience, “we have been proud and thought we were better than any other race, any other people. Ladies and gentlemen, we are going to stumble into hell because of our pride.”

Yeah, sounds like a real racist.

And Joanne32a @ 10:22 a.m.: Matthew 24:23-31; Matthew 24:36-44; Matthew 25:31-46; Acts 1:10-11; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8. Sorry for all the references, I just thought you’d like to know the Bible has a lot to say about Jesus PHYSICALLY returning one day. Sending the Holy Spirit was a different thing entirely.

You say, “For a Christian who bases his hopes on a second coming of Jesus sometime in the future has to be a complete mindless nutcase.” Um, that’s pretty much all Christians then, regardless of denomination. It’s a universal teaching in the Bible.

RomeGaGuy

October 18th, 2012
1:52 pm

go watch this episode of South Park http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s07e12-all-about-mormons

Tap Out

October 18th, 2012
1:53 pm

I’m too intelligent to be a republican.

Joanne32a

October 18th, 2012
1:54 pm

Jesus pronounced judgement on the generation living at the time of His prophecy in Matthew 24 Mark 13 and Luke 21

– The same “wicked and adulterous generation” who was asking for a sign (Matt. 12:39, 16:4)
- The same one He calls an “unbelieving and perverse generation,” of which He asks “how long shall I stay with you? How long shall I put up with you?” (Matt.17:17.
- The same one that would reject God’s only Son: “But first he must suffer many things and be rejected by this generatino” (Luke 17:25)
- The same one to whom John the Baptist came and about which came about which Jesus lamented, “To what shall I compare this generation?” (Matt. 11:16-24)
- The same one who would crucity Him: “Therefore, this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the world. Yes, I tell you, this generation will be held responsible for it all.” (Luke 11:50, 51b)
- They were worse than all previous generations “more wicked… That is how it will be with this wicked generation. (Matt. 12:45)
- And the same one Apostle Peter warned his contemporaries about: “Sve yourselves from this corrupt (perverse) generation” (Acts 2:40)
- As far back as the Song of Moses in the Old Testament, which prophesied what the end of Israel would be like, God spoke through Moses of this same perverse generation, thusly: “I will hide my face from them… and see what their end will be for they are a perverse generation, children who are unfaithful…. I will heap calamities upom them and spend my arrows against them. (Deut. 32:30, 23)

The generation Jesus was clearly speaking to that was due for destruction was the one living at the time He spoke it… NOT OUR GENERATION.

Judgment did come in AD70 via the Romans and did away with the old Jewish religious system of that day. What the Jewish people today are doing means nothing… they can worship however way they want …. however… the old Jewish religious system was based on temple, priests, blood sacrifices, feasts, etc.

Jesus destroyed that system. If you look real closely you will see a empty temple mount …
He called it a “sign of this coming” in the clouds.

Proud American

October 18th, 2012
1:55 pm

I recently watch old footage on PBS of Billy Graham with former President Richard Nixon. It showed that Graham ran to his side even after he found out that Nixon was wrong with Watergate. Just because they are both Republicans. It showed that he stayed by Nixon and continued to tell Nixon how great he was. I became so disappointed in Mr. Graham after this because from what I see, the apple does not fall to far from the tree. Franklin Graham seems to be worst that his father when it comes to politics instead of what is right with God. It also looks like Franklin Graham sat his father in front of the camera for this photo shot. It is Franklin Graham who is endorsing Romney. Sad.

Robert

October 18th, 2012
1:57 pm

@Joe Velardita – “Think about it. A virgin birth?”

Your lack of respect for the greatest story ever told is unacceptable. Try opening your Bible with a group of friends who can help you understand the true meaning of the birth, death and resurection of Jesus Christ especially as we approach the holiday seasons. Jesus said “he is the light of the world and no one can get to the Father unless they accept him as their personal savior.” There is still time to redeem yourself and save your own soul. Real Christian’s know that when Jesus died on that old rugged cross and came out of the grave in 3 days we have the “Victory”. Real Christian’s know we are just being faithful until he returns. How can I help serve you? Are you hungry, sick, homeless? Are you in need of prayer? Know is the time. Praise the Lord.

arlene

October 18th, 2012
2:03 pm

How much did Mitt contribute to Graham’s church? That charlatan and his son should be ashamed for selling out to that arrogant, disrespectful idiot. OBAMA.. 2012 FOR THE NEXT 4 YEARS.

Ivory

October 18th, 2012
2:06 pm

Money attracts Money; it just goes to show how much the Graham’s are hypocrites, have alway’s been, and alway’s will be!

emo

October 18th, 2012
2:07 pm

Joanne, it’s all foretold:
30 When all these blessings and curses I have set before you come on you and you take them to heart wherever the Lord your God disperses you among the nations,
2 and when you and your children return to the Lord your God and obey him with all your heart and with all your soul according to everything I command you today,
3 then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes[a] and have compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where he scattered you.
4 Even if you have been banished to the most distant land under the heavens, from there the Lord your God will gather you and bring you back.
5 He will bring you to the land that belonged to your ancestors, and you will take possession of it. He will make you more prosperous and numerous than your ancestors.
6 The Lord your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants, so that you may love him with all your heart and with all your soul, and live.
7 The Lord your God will put all these curses on your enemies who hate and persecute you.
If you have a problem with Jews, reread v.7 a few times.

arlene

October 18th, 2012
2:07 pm

If Obama were a white man running on the Democrat ticket, Romney would be toast! Face it, folks….it’s all about skin color! Go, Obama.

Joanne32a

October 18th, 2012
2:09 pm

It is men like Billy Graham and his futurists buddies that the world of Christianity is in the mess it is in today. Graham always taught Jesus was coming within this generation which is completely against what Jesus Christ said. Jesus said “this generation shall on pass away until all these things happened” …. “this geneation” mean… the generation He was speaking to NOT OURS.

He did escatly what He said He would do to “that generation” Graham wants to negat Jesus’ words…like he either lied or didn’t know what He was talking about.

However, Mr. Graham… you are the one who is wrong. Just look what happened in AD70… to “that generation” …. the only generation that deserved judgement and the only one Jesus said it would happen.

Have fun explaining that to God when you meet Him …. You were the one mistaken… you are the one who misguided believers all these years… making light of Jesus’ words and replacing them with your own.

Jay Money

October 18th, 2012
2:13 pm

God deals with THE TRUTH, The devil deals with LIES..If you vote for Romney, your voting for the devil and in effect you too are the devil..

june

October 18th, 2012
2:15 pm

Billy Graham is a man of God for a long period of time and he should know better than of what he said. He know in his heart that the Mormons are cult. Not because they will support you in the ministry you will compromise with their belief or tell the people that they are not cult since they are cult. Other people said that all religions are cult, you don’t know what you are talking about. Accept Christ before you die because you will go to Hell and to be tormented day and night the Bible said.

Joanne32a

October 18th, 2012
2:15 pm

I don’t have a problem with Jews. The true Jew is one who has his heart circumcised not his penis. The only thing that made Abraham righteous was his faith in the SEED (Jesus) that was coming.

Jesus came to save the Jew first… then the gentile. Salvation is of the Jews… Jesus taught that. He was their messah first… to the Jew first… then the gentile.

Most of “that generation” did not want the spiritual kingdom Jesus offered but that didn’t change anythying. His spiritual kingdom still moved forward within the 40 remaining years of “that generation” …. winding up in AD70 with the destruction of “that generation” … just like the destruction of “that generation” that came out of Egypt who wandered in the desert for 40 years.

Salvation is of the Jews…

Jay Money

October 18th, 2012
2:20 pm

BG, just die already..damn…

Robert

October 18th, 2012
2:20 pm

@I voted for Ralph Nader – “Christianity is a total fraud.”

Have you ever been sick, hungry, homeless? Have you ever felt pain? Do you go to sleep at night and wake up in the morning? If you never had any of these problems in your life somebody’s “praying for you”. Maybe it’s your Mother, Father, Sister, Brother, etc.? One day I hope you get on your knees and thank God for his Son Jesus and ask Jesus to forgive you even on your death bed. He will always love you. Praise the Lord…

The Truth

October 18th, 2012
2:21 pm

Operation Christmas Child is all I have to know about the Grahams. What a wonderful work.

pm

October 18th, 2012
2:22 pm

that is a crying shame. Joseph Smith and some buried plaques?! No.

Sometimes I ask myself WHY I believe in Christianity; I believe I believe it because God has written The Truth in our hearts. Catholicism, no. Hindu, no. Buddha, no. Mormon, no.

Jesus, yes, it’s there. Mormonism is a lie and I just have to consider the culture (what a shame) why Mr. Graham would go with such.

HRPufnstuf

October 18th, 2012
2:22 pm

Ok Franklin, you want to be in the political arena? Then start paying taxes like the rest of us!

Jed

October 18th, 2012
2:24 pm

Joanne32a,

You’re correct in pointing out that Jesus prophesied the fall of Jerusalem at the hands of the Romans.

But that doesn’t discount the other scriptures, some of which I specifically mentioned to you, that cite Jesus Christ WILL physically return one day.

To say that Israelites circa AD 70 were “the only generation that deserved judgement” has got to be one of the silliest, most ignorant things I’ve ever heard. Since you (sort of/thinly/out of context) use the Bible to support your statements, what do you think about the fact that “there is no one righteous, not even one” (Romans 3:10) and “there is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:22-23)?

Yeah, “the only generation that deserved judgment.” That’s hilarious.

Church Goer

October 18th, 2012
2:27 pm

Oh, how convenient!

Joanne32a

October 18th, 2012
2:31 pm

That “generation” deserved the judgment it had coming and it came. You are right there is none righteouse… no not one. However, “that generation” …not ours was a very special generation that was receiving tribulation…. not ours. We have the ability of having Christ living in us… as He did within the first generation of believers.

However, the generation Jesus clearly referred to when He walked out of the temple .. was the generation living at the time He spoke it to. NOT OURS……

Each Christian has to walk out their own salvation… having Jesus living within them right now. Not having to WAIT ala Billy Graham… the Apostle Paul taught “Christ in you.. the hope of glory” … not having to WAIT for a physical second comingof Jesus. Paul even taught in 2Cor 13:5 … that Jesus Christ was living IN those believers… just like He lives in believers today.

Billy Graham and his futuristic buddies have been wrong. The only generation that had that kind of judgment coming to it was the generation Jesus said it would happen to…. NOT OURS

Mike E

October 18th, 2012
2:33 pm

The folks within the Baptist Convention know exactly what a CULT is because they run one.

Ask all those good ole boys….or read some about what they do at the below link. These are what you Ga Baptist follow.

CULT

http://thecultbuster.blogspot.com/

MW

October 18th, 2012
2:34 pm

From the Articles of Faith of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints: “We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.” I’m wondering how this is resolved by the extreme conservative/fundamentalist Christians that are supporting the actions of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association

Mario from Snellville

October 18th, 2012
2:38 pm

He sent us an email asking us to support the candidate that will stand up for the biblical definition of marriage. I can tell that old age is getting to him. Support the candidate who believes in a religion that encourages polygamy? Yeah, that’s it.

That's the way it is

October 18th, 2012
2:41 pm

I bet Billy just made that statement to get the word of God out there and some of you are getting it done…. Bless all of you for spreading the word to the non believers…
May Jesus watch over and keep you…

Manny

October 18th, 2012
2:49 pm

First of all, as a Christian, Mormonism is an affront to authentic Christianity. For instance, Jesus supposed to have visited America and hung out with folks right after the Resurrection. And I guess He revealed himself to a multitude of Native Americans, yet only LDS people have any record of this. Oh, and that there are 3 heavens, not one. Oh, and God rules the universe, but there are many universes and many gods- each ruling their own universe.

As a Christian, Yikes! And this is what concerns me. You can vote for a guy that believes this, if you think that he’s the right man for the job. I’ve known Mormons and they are cool. But to discount their bizarre theological practices and thoughts in order to make it OK for Christians to vote for a guy in a political campaign is simply deception for political gain.

I would rather have Billy Graham’s organization to simply say that it’s Ok to vote for Romney as Christians. And the reason why is because what politician will totally satisfy all religious mandates in a Democratic Republic?

older1

October 18th, 2012
2:49 pm

Your will never have to worry about a J.W. running for president. We have Jesus as our king and savior and JEHOVAH as our God. I guess you could say we are of that sect spoken against at ACTS chapter 28 verse 22. and that’s good company. And of course we don’t charge to preach.

Pat

October 18th, 2012
2:54 pm

Mormons believe in Jesus Christ so that is all that matters.

Bob

October 18th, 2012
2:54 pm

Joanne32a

And which cult do you belong to the Church of everthing already happened, so there is no hope in Christs return….lol

None of the Mainstream Christian Denominations, would agree with anything you are spouting.

Because Israel rejected Christ, God allowed the Romans to destroy Jerusalem in 70 A.D., and the Jews were dispersed among the Gentile nations of the world. Since then they have wondered from nation to nation suffering bitter persecution. However, in the late 1800’s a remarkable thing started happening. In large numbers, the Jews began returning to Palestine, and in 1887 they made formal statements that they intended to REPOSSESS THEIR HOMELAND!

When World War I began in 1914, there were 80,000 Jews living in Palestine. England’s Balfour Declaration of 1917 gave strong approval for the Jews to establish a national homeland, but England reneged due to Arab pressure. Nevertheless, 400,000 Jews had settled in the homeland by 1939.

Satan saw what was happening. He knew that the Lord was regathering the Jews for a reason, and he knew the reason: the Second Coming of Christ. So Satan raised up Adolph Hitler to murder six million of God’s chosen people as an outright act of hate and revenge. This massive slaughter created enough sympathy for the Jews that the United Nations granted 5000 square miles of Palestinian land to them after World War II. Then in 1948 Israel became an independent nation for the first time in many centuries! The Arabs have fought viciously to destroy Israel, but with no success. God wants His people IN PALESTINE (Amos 9:14-15), because the Lord Jesus Christ is coming very soon. During the Six Day War of 1967, Israel even gained possession of the ancient temple sight, and plans are currently underway to rebuild the temple.

Jesus likens Israel unto a “fig tree” in Matthew 24:32-34, and He likens the restoration of Israel unto a fig tree putting forth leaves. He said that He would return during the same generation which witnesses Israel putting forth leaves as a nation. We are living in that generation! There are some four million Jews living in Palestine today. We have seen the Jews return to Palestine, and we have seen the nation of Israel prosper.

Friend, there’s a reason for all of this: the Lord Jesus Christ is coming soon!

Rival

October 18th, 2012
3:00 pm

If I had known better, I would have trained to be an evangelical minister in the south. That is the quickest way to make loads of money.

Bob

October 18th, 2012
3:00 pm

@ Pat – The Mormans believe Jesus Christ and Satan are Brothers, that them and all the Angels and human Beings were conceaved by “heavenly Father and Mother,”

Not In The Bible, NO

Who Are The Real Holy Men?

October 18th, 2012
3:01 pm

“That’s the way it is

October 18th, 2012
2:41 pm

I bet Billy just made that statement to get the word of God out there and some of you are getting it done…. Bless all of you for spreading the word to the non believers…
May Jesus watch over and keep you…”

Yes and I bet you are an idiot.

I respect the Cathy family and their Chik Fil A policies. They don’t do business on Sundays due to their religious conviction. Think about how much more money they could make if they did Sunday business? I don’t necessarily agree with the Cathy families’ politics, but they stand by their beliefs and they are due all the credit in the world for not selling that out.

Billy and Franklin Graham? That’s another story. They just sold their souls for politics which makes them no better than the politicians.

Ruben

October 18th, 2012
3:03 pm

“…we do not wish to participate in a theological debate about something…”

I thought that was your job!!! Leadership and courage is dead in America. Call Mormonism for what it is.

Mr. Right

October 18th, 2012
3:04 pm

Since the Indians was some of the first people here anyway, lets ask them what america faith should be. We all come from different places and have receive faith through our generations, so who’s to say anybody right about the right faith. There is a greater power bigger than all of us and we call it GOD. You can believe what you want to believe. I do believe if you are a woman and not rich it’s no way you can vote for Mitt and if you are rich and hate muslim or people who look BLACK but has other racial make-up vote for Mitt. Nobody votes for the right reason anyway, so vote for the person that could help YOU and YOUR FAMILY the most. I LOVE AMERICA but hate people who believe this country is theirs and only theirs. How can you find a country that was already found? This is the LAND OF THE FREE, not whites, blacks, Indians(maybe:-), or any other race.

Rival

October 18th, 2012
3:06 pm

Well, I guess there’s no reason to go to back to work. Bob says Christ is coming soon.

I prefer to believe that if you’re going to make unfalsifiable claims, make them spectacular:

http://www.venganza.org

Just as plausible as all the other myths…

Manny

October 18th, 2012
3:09 pm

Pat,

Belief in Jesus isn’t enough. Muslims believe in Jesus- they call him Imam Isa. Satan believes in Jesus and tremble, according to Scripture.

But belief in Jesus for what? That is the question. As Christians, we believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that He died for our sins- my own personal sins. We believe that without that belief, we wouldn’t receive eternal life in Heaven. We believe that only through Him, mankind can be saved. And we believe that His Word is eternal, everlasting and without rival.

Salvation through Grace is what Christians believe in- not salvation through obedience.The reason why is because we cannot achieve righteousness on our own strength. We strive to obey God, but we will always fall short. So we are saved on the credit of Jesus’ death.

Oh, and no baptisms of dead people. Baptizing a corpse is silly.

Doris M

October 18th, 2012
3:09 pm

How much did Mitt pay to have the Grahams take Mormonism off the Cult List?

pm

October 18th, 2012
3:16 pm

My gosh. Do the American people need always to be told by another how they should proceed? That is very sad.

Observe the debate, think, and vote for Obama, the one with the honesty and integrity and care for people in general.

Alternatively, you could vote for Romney, who doesn’t answer questions, won’t tell how his ‘plan’ will work, may consider you part of the unimportant throw-away 47%, and so on. But, come on, people, can’t you decide. Do you need Billy Graham, at the behest of his son, telling or suggesting to you what to do? Think!!! (gosh, this is really sad….!

arlene

October 18th, 2012
3:20 pm

…and to all of the idiots who think Mr. Obama is a Muslim: do not let the name fool you; HE IS A CHRISTIAN. Do not label him because of his color and his name!

BOB

October 18th, 2012
3:21 pm

seems every time a democrat rises to power in the US, atheists feel emboldened to surface from their hideout to bad mouth the bible and those that hold it sacred.

GT

October 18th, 2012
3:22 pm

When they backed Newt all religious affiliations were gone. Who would you rather have someone who does believe in the trinity or someone who is married more times than a Mormon?

Waiting Patiently

October 18th, 2012
3:23 pm

Bob

of more than 200 posts your post gives the most HOPE! That’s the Hope and Change I’m looking for!

Rev. John Johnson, Jr.

October 18th, 2012
3:25 pm

Fortunately, just because Billy and Franklin choose to take down information on their website (and sell out!) doesn’t suddenly change the fact that Mormonism is, indeed, still a cult in the sense that it is outside the tenets of orthodox and historical Christianity. Billy and Franklin do not speak for all Evangelical Christians. This is nothing more than shameful pandering at the expense of truth. They have no credibility.

Rick

October 18th, 2012
3:29 pm

arlene, it’s all about skin color? How did Obama ever get elected the first time then? Oh that’s right, his skin color.

billy's legacy

October 18th, 2012
3:30 pm

Southern evangelical philosophy – I might be able to convert a Mormon, but Obama’s always going to be half black.

Rev. John Johnson, Jr.

October 18th, 2012
3:32 pm

But if I’m being honest, I have no ground to stand on, because I am paid for my ministry, which Jesus taught against. Therefore I am a hypocrite.

Manny

October 18th, 2012
3:36 pm

Rev. John Johnson,

Where did Jesus teach against vocational ministry?

Joanne32a

October 18th, 2012
3:37 pm

Hey Bob …. ya been reading too many Hal Lindsey books, brother. You are taking Jesus’ words right out of context .. just like Graham and his futuristic buddies have done over the years … and try to prove something that is just not going to happen. The judgment genreration Jesus spoke to was the one living at the time He walked the earth. You have to twist and turn the Bible to prove your point…. which is what Graham and his buddies have done …
Look…. ‘Jesus is coming!! …. He is over there… no He is over here …. However… the Kingdom of God is within you. Christ lives now…. IN His believers…. and no one has to wait for a “second coming” when that is not even in the Bible …. “the second coming of Jesus Christ” is not in the bible anywhere.
Jesus comes… into anyone who opens the door to their hearts and He comes into…. Right now… it has happened millions of times over these past generations…. Our generation is just another generation… even if Israel has its land back … the only reason they were allowed to keep it in the first place was if they were obedient to God. Just look what happened when they were disobedient…

You can go on believing in Billy and his buds… looking at Israel for whatever you think is going to happen there … However…. you make a mockery out of what Jesus said was going to happen to “this generation” … the generation that He dealt very seriously with in AD70….

Pat

October 18th, 2012
3:45 pm

I want to know what Romney believes about the blood of Jesus Christ? Let’s ask him that question openly. He would run faster away than how is dodging the tax question. He is a shameless liar, and if he is so religious what has he read in his word about liars? The Mormon Church will run the country. He will keep them tax- exempt and tax every other non-profit group. Everyone is God’s creation, but not everyone is a child of God. People, do not be fooled, Romney answers questions like he believes he is the Messiah. He will create some things by giving his friends the go ahead to stop holding back and do the right thing now.

Rival

October 18th, 2012
3:46 pm

To Bob and all those that irrationally use religion to explain everything:

I don’t think that just because something is explained using religion that it is exempt from criticism or scrutiny. Religion is not a free pass for crazy ideas and crazy actions. This applies to a range of things from christians attempting to teach their gospel in public schools to muslims seeking to kill in the name of their god.

I’m not judging those who see the world through religious lens. But I can’t ignore when personal belief becomes public action. And for too long this country has made public laws based on personal religious beliefs. And I can come up with some fairly screwy beliefs and call it religion just as easily as anyone else. If public officials then push for those ideas to bear on 100% of the population through laws, then it is not a question of respecting personal religious beliefs.

Rational-minded people aren’t anti-religion. If there are sides to be taken and we have to divide ourselves, I’d wish that line could be drawn between reasonable and unreasonable people, rather than the religious and the non-religious.

Keep your religions out of my life. I wish I could vote for candidates that looked at things rationally and using empirical evidence…

Tom

October 18th, 2012
3:49 pm

Wonderful. It’s the 21st century, our economy is in the crapper, and we’re still having to put up with “my mythology’s better than your mythology’ arguments from the Bronze Age.

Rev. John Johnson, Jr.

October 18th, 2012
3:49 pm

“Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind.” – 1 Peter 5:2

Pat

October 18th, 2012
3:51 pm

I am completely crazy.

Tom

October 18th, 2012
3:51 pm

Unlike theists and other mythologists, I choose to have my “personal relationship” with reality.

FP

October 18th, 2012
3:55 pm

When it gets down to it- We rather have a Mormon over the Muslin..a Christian- Catholic , Pres & VP team-over the Islamic, anti Jewish, Atheist team-

Tom

October 18th, 2012
3:57 pm

Theists believe in those things which they feel through faith in God. Faith is completely dead to me. If I cannot experience or test something through my five natural senses, then it must not exist. This is a completely rational way to view the world. A way which deprives of knowledge which may be gained only through faith.

Glenn Dowell, Ed.D.

October 18th, 2012
3:59 pm

@BobDog….As a moderate, Graham deplored civil rights activists who participated in protests and acts of civil disobedience. Graham’s critics point to this contradiction — while Graham supported equality, he denounced the activists and protesters who forced the social and legal changes that made equality for African Americans possible.

Splavistic

October 18th, 2012
4:09 pm

Why does Romney’s religion matter? He could believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster for all I care. I just want someone who will honor and uphold the Constitution and restore our nation’s greatness.

CL

October 18th, 2012
4:11 pm

Flying Spaghetti Monster, thats a good one

Obama

October 18th, 2012
4:12 pm

Guys you better vote for me. This is 2012, not voting for someone because of their religion is perfectly acceptable.

Gloria Randolph

October 18th, 2012
4:29 pm

I am disheartened/disappointed … I’m a Romney supporter & find pushing this into the mix doesn’t help him. Any one who has sat under evangelical biblical teaching know the Graham Assoc is wrong. And I always thought Bob Jones was wrong when he called BG a liberal … live & learn

John

October 18th, 2012
4:30 pm

People, just read “Billy Graham and His Friends: A Hidden Agenda?” and you will see who is really the charlatan called Billy Graham.

Willard the Baptist

October 18th, 2012
4:33 pm

I don’t care what religion Willard embraces, but I don’t have to want someone who’s out on the fringe being president. I’ve been able to excuse mainstream religious beliefs because a) they’re politically expedient and b) the “miracles” happened so long ago that you can forgive the scribes for thinking that an earthquake was the wrath of God. I have a lot more trouble voting for someone who believes that Joseph Smith found golden tablets in upstate New York – golden tablets that only he could see and read – and they told him to start a religion, have multiple wives, not to have multiple wives (later interpretation), baptise the dead, etc. I really don’t want someone who believes that controlling the nuclear weapons stockpile or impacting the economy. Now, I would have no problem hiring a Mormon to be my doctor, CPA, etc. – just not president of the USA.

Rival

October 18th, 2012
4:35 pm

CL, have you now been touched by His Noodly Appendage?

Praise be to Him who boiled for all our sins and created all that is, beginning first with a mountain, trees, and a midget.

Carbo diem and R’amen

Boss Hawg

October 18th, 2012
4:37 pm

Graham is not the only Christian I know who has sold out their values in support of this Romney character. This guy has a background just as if not more shadier than the sitting president. I’d rather give see Jimmy Carter Jr get a 2nd term than go down the path Romney will take us.

Jack

October 18th, 2012
4:39 pm

@Willard the Baptist, but if the President believes that Moses parted the Red Sea, or that God spoke out of a burning bush, or that Abraham and many other prophets in the Bible had multiple wives, that is ok right? If something sounds weird but it was a (relatively) long time ago then it’s ok? Just want to make sure I understand.

margarita ley

October 18th, 2012
4:43 pm

MORMONISM IS A CULT…..SHAME ON BILLY GRAHAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

margarita ley

October 18th, 2012
4:46 pm

MORMONISM IS A CULT SHAME ON YOU bILLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve Stenhouse

October 18th, 2012
4:48 pm

To this Glenn Dowell Ed.D and other blinded by the smile of Barrack Obama. It’s not Rev Grahams decision nor is it ours to Label L.D.S. as a cult. I am not a mormon ,but know one thing for sure ,they are generally good business people with extremely good family values ,both of which this country is lacking, and for GOD”s sake and this country ,dont you think we deserve a president that doesnt want to compare himself to an impeached Bill Clinton. We also need a president that knows there are 50 states not 57 in the 50 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA> And one more humble than the 2 obnoxious ones now in office. And Mr Dowell and others speaking badly of the Rev Graham who has given his life for God, I wish you well and advise you to stay indoors during any lighting storm

margarita ley

October 18th, 2012
4:52 pm

I TYPE IN ALL CAPS SO PEOPLE WILL PAY ATTENTION TO ME BUT REALLY I ACTUALLY KNOW MORMONS AND THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE

Rival

October 18th, 2012
4:59 pm

Steve,

So God causes lightning and uses that power to smite those who speak ill of members of a particular brand of faith? Does he smite those who disparage Catholics? What about priests charged with sexual abuses – does their faith guard against God’s wrath? I just want to know, because I continue to find it odd that one man can receive such protection simply by retelling old tales and taking money from people who think he will save them from something anyone could possibly foresee.

I do look forward to any evidence you can present. I was foolish to think that lightning is caused by electrostatic discharge in the atmosphere.

Rival

October 18th, 2012
4:59 pm

*couldn’t possibly foresee

Bob

October 18th, 2012
5:00 pm

The almighty dollar has spoken!

Just a comment

October 18th, 2012
5:03 pm

Interesting how on the tray of refreshments there is Coke, Diet Coke, and maybe tea all caffeinated beverages against the Mormon beliefs….Maybe there is some water on there..

George

October 18th, 2012
5:09 pm

@Just a comment, small correction, the Mormon church does not prohibit caffeinated beverages:

http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/mormonism-news–getting-it-right-august-29

Richie

October 18th, 2012
5:20 pm

Good lord Billy Graham looks like he’s clinging on to life.

Real Athens

October 18th, 2012
5:38 pm

Billy Graham is a businessman; nothing more, nothing less. I see no difference between he and P.T. Barnum.

DebDoes

October 18th, 2012
5:39 pm

I was raised Southern Baptist and we were taught as small children–Mormonism is a cult! I don’t separate people from the faith. I do know and respect some Mormon people, but still view their religion as a cult. I’m sorry, I can’t vote for Romney….first as a Mormon, secondly as a Republican with so much wealth he is out of touch with middle America.

DebDoes

October 18th, 2012
5:41 pm

Hello…the Mormon Church does not condone any caffeine…visit mecca in Salt Lake City and you will hear ‘their truth’. I’ve been there.

Richard

October 18th, 2012
5:50 pm

Why are Christian fanatics so intolerant of others religious beliefs?

not Obamacare

October 18th, 2012
7:45 pm

You’ll accept a Muslim but reject a Mormon? Sheesh….

Tom

October 18th, 2012
8:06 pm

FYI, it appears the “Tom” at 3:57 was attempting to post as me….the “Tom” at 3:49 & 3:51. “Fake Tom” comment at 3:57 was rather nonsensical.

fuhgeddaboudit

October 18th, 2012
8:55 pm

Did anyone notice all the Coke’s these guys are drinking?

Tim

October 18th, 2012
11:11 pm

Most of you are so full of scrap! Go back to the holes that you crawled out of! You low life scum!

Tim

October 18th, 2012
11:15 pm

WHY are liberals so brainless when it comes to developing concrete and coherent thoughts?

Tim

October 18th, 2012
11:17 pm

And as for you so-called “Christ lovers” who discriminate against Mormons, I hope you like hell you petty selfish souls!

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October 19th, 2012
4:11 am

[...] That’s the headline that should have been used for the following article – Billy Graham group removes Mormonism from list of cults [...]

Heavenly Bound

October 19th, 2012
4:18 am

Whether people agree or disagrees with Billy Graham,that is their choice. He is right and he’s standing by his beliefs like anybody else would. I admire this man because of what he stands for. I have never heard any scandal on him like I have on others. I totally admire this man and he has been a inspiration to many people including me and my family.

Oldman45

October 19th, 2012
7:37 am

A Muslim or a Mormon…not much for a Christian to get excited about. Sorry Billy, the Bible hasn’t changed. America is under attack. We are truly wandering in the wilderness now. I fear what my children and grandchildren will face in the future.

Tom

October 19th, 2012
9:47 am

Q: Name the religions that are not also cults.

A: Trick question……there are none.

Howie Gardner

October 19th, 2012
9:56 am

I for one have supported the Billy Graham Association for many years. But this is over the pale. There are thousands of X-Mormons out there who have seen their lives demolished by this cult. God is a spaceman from the planet Kolob? Jesus is Lucifer’s brother? Of course it is a cult.

God Must Be Laughing

October 19th, 2012
10:49 am

I get a kick out of reading all these comments in which various posters judge one another and denigrate each other’s beliefs. God who created everything and is the Supreme Archetict of the universe must be laughing at the foolishness of us silly humans who pretend to know it all..

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