Two Sams, an Elliott and a Sanford on polarized politics

This was alumni weekend at Emory University, possibly because they don’t have a football team.

Part of the program on Saturday was a panel of law school graduates discussing the polarized state of American politics: Former U.S. Sen. Sam Nunn (’62), U.S. Rep. Sanford Bishop (’71) Attorney General Sam Olens (’83); former congressman Elliott Levitas (’52).

Herding the cats as moderator was Yvette Miller (’88) presiding judge of the state Court of the Appeals. Tom Clark, associate professor of political science, also sat in on the discussion.

Here’s the video turned out by Emory:

Below is a rough, incomplete transcript.

For the last few weeks, Nunn has been engaged in an unofficial campaign to rally the nation’s political elders – Republican and Democrat – in support of a bipartisan deal to address the federal deficit and avoidance of the “fiscal cliff” that looms in January. So he loomed largest in the discussion.

The panel closed with a brief skirmish over voter ID between Bishop and Olens.

The highlights:

Nunn:”What affects us the most right now is the fiscal problem. The world is in a very fragile economy. The United States is in a fragile recovery. Thankfully, we are recovering – but it’s very fragile. We have a fiscal cliff coming in January that almost everybody, whether to the left or right economically, says will take us into recession because it’s a massive tax increase and a very large spending cut….

“The demographics have been driving our problem for a long time. Every year that you let it go by, you basically let it go further, and it gets harder. The demographics are basically the blessings of longer life. We’re living longer, and we have not adjusted our social programs to that. When we passed Social Security and Medicare – don’t hold me to the exact numbers – in the mid-60s. Now life expectancy is from 78 to 82 or 83. No insurance company can write an actuarial policy on that basis. They would go broke. But we haven’t squared that with the American people….

“Right now both political parties are not using common sense, they’re not using arithmetic. And they are basically misleading people every day….”

Levitas: “[The tea party] made two commitments. One of those commitments was..’We’re not going to compromise. We’re going to come up to Washington, and we’re going to stand for what we stand for, take it or leave it.

“They said, ‘Furthermore, we’re going to read the Constitution of the United States word for word.’ They did. Now, I have found that to be one of the great ironies of modern-day politics. …I may be wrong, but I don’t know of any political document that contains more compromises than the U.S. Constitution.

“This nation cannot work without accommodation and compromise. We have already – each one of us in this room – paid a price for the uncompromising attitude of people in the Congress of the United States. When the credit rating of this nation was downgraded for the first time in my lifetime, it wasn’t done just because of the massive debt. That was part of it. But it was done because the rating agencies looked at the Congress of the United States and didn’t think these people were capable of governing because they couldn’t reach accommodation and compromise….”

Bishop: “…I’ve been in Congress nearly 20 years. I have seen this polarization develop, and it’s a phenomenon that’s very, very dangerous. …[Holds up a book.] Let me just highlight a publication that has written about it, by Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein. It’s called, ‘It’s Even Worse Than It Looks: How the American Political System Collided with the New Politics of Extremism.’

“…They have documented the trends that have gotten us to the place where we are. Among them are the fact that we have instant news cycles. [Members of Congress] don’t spend much time together.”

Bishop bemoaned the lack of opportunity for members of Congress to socialize or to travel together.

”Relationships are key to the ability to resolve issues, whether it’s practicing law, in the Legislature or in Congress. You’ve got to have a personal relationship with your colleagues in order to go past the issues….”

Olens: “I had a great mentor in my political career, and that’s Senator Isakson, who lives five minutes from me. He fits that mode, just like Senator Nunn, of someone who has tried to solve problems rather than create problems….

“When I was in law school here, Senator Nunn – I could think of “Scoop” Jackson, a couple other folks – people that solved national problems. You’d be hard pressed to think of five now, out of 535 federal elected officials in Congress at present….

“I think the public desires honesty more than anything else. …The public doesn’t get mad at you if you disagree with them. The public gets made at you if you’re inaccessible, if you don’t make your opinions known to them.

“This nation is being governed by continuing resolutions with little legislation being passed. And I tend to think of governance by continuing resolution as government by the inept….

“I recall when President Bush sought to revise Social Security. It was not pretty. And of course the problem is harder to solve now…

“The state of Georgia is run very different from D.C. In the Georgia House, the minority leader is Stacey Abrams. Stacey works very well with the folks on the other side of the aisle. With most significant legislation, she’s in the meetings, helping to finalize the form of the bill. She is constructive. On the Senate side, Jason Carter is very engaged and helpful in that regard….”

Nunn: “We had furious arguments. These were big issues. But we respected each other. …I never passed a major piece of legislation in 21 years where I didn’t have a Republican partner. Not one. We always tried to find a way to govern. ..

“The other dimension of this is that the people at home have to be part of this. The wings of both parties are flapping very hard. They’re very active, they put big money in, they’re extremely involved, and the middle doesn’t get very involved.

“The wings have every right to get involved. You have every right to have a tea party. But the tea party and others like them, left and right, when it comes to governing – if you let them govern, or try to govern, it’s like the dog who catches the car. They don’t know how to govern, because they don’t know how to compromise. They don’t know how to work together. They don’t know how to listen….

Nunn credited Isakson’s bipartisanship, but paid special attention to U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss, who is at the center of a bipartisan effort to reach a deal on the federal deficit and faces a 2014 re-election bid.

”Saxby’s big problem now – what does he do in the primary? Is it a sin to work together? I think that the middle has to rise up. They have to get involved. One of the questions you need to ask people running for federal office is not, what is your position, but are you willing to consider for just a moment that you might not be correct?

“Even if you are 100 percent sure that your political party or your candidate is right, and the other party is 100 percent wrong, no party after this election is going to be able to impose its will fiscally on the other….

As the discussion turned to the growing diversity of the American electorate, the congressman from Albany noted the low rate of voter participation in the U.S., citing it as a cause of political polarization.

Bishop: “Perhaps we need some incentive so that people either get tax breaks to participate, or they get penalized if they don’t participate. But even in the worse countries in the world, they’ve got greater participation than we have…”

That, of course, led Bishop to the topic of voter ID.

”After the 2008 election, there was a strategy developed to try to suppress the vote. Eliminate early voting, or reduce the length of early voting, because certain demographics found that convenient to participate, and it drove up turnout, which helped President Obama get elected. So certain politicians said we need to do something so these people don’t vote. Let’s make it more restrictive by requiring photo ID.”

Bishop sat right next to Olens, who has defended Georgia’s voter ID law for the last two years. He offered a quick rebuttal:

Olens: “Speaking of diversity, I’m the ‘R’ on the panel. So let me just say that when Michelle Obama comes to Atlanta, and you want her to autograph your new book, you need to show a photo ID to get in line.

“When you want to go visit an individual in their federal office, you have to show a photo ID. When you want to go to Target this afternoon and give them a check, you have to give them a photo ID. Why all the sudden it’s a conspiracy against minorities voting to show a photo ID, to me is as foolish as criticizing the tea party for actually wanting to avoid the fiscal cliff. I think those kinds of comments is what this panel was intended to reduce.”

The panel wrapped up shortly afterwards.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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53 comments Add your comment

cc

September 30th, 2012
12:17 pm

“Right now both political parties are not using common sense, they’re not using arithmetic. And they are basically misleading people every day….”

Only a fool would disagree with this statement!

“When the credit rating of this nation was downgraded for the first time in my lifetime”

It has been downgraded TWICE now!

“After the 2008 election, there was a strategy developed to try to suppress the vote”

What a crock! Olens answered that charge very well. Bishop should seriously consider retiring; he has done enough damage.

crankee-yankee

September 30th, 2012
12:17 pm

Interesting that some of our elder statesmen are looking to educate the current crop. Been a long time coming, hope its not too late. All the Sunday morning R talking heads were in lock-step today calling Obama a liar. Is that their new strategy? I think it is telling that the R strategy avoids specifics of their own plan to throw mud. Things do get dirty when you are on a losing team.

Question Man

September 30th, 2012
12:56 pm

Since the intent of the photo ID requirement is to suppress voting, doesn’t Olens’ seemingly convincing explanation ring hollow?

Just Saying..

September 30th, 2012
1:10 pm

“The panel wrapped up shortly afterwards.”

Or, right after after Sam Olens illustrated The Problem…

Or, right after after Sam Olens messed in the punch bowl…

Or, right after after Sam Olens showed he really hadn’t heard any of the prior speakers…

Or, right after after Sam Olens illustrated why the GOP is headed for an education Nov 6…

Michele

September 30th, 2012
2:15 pm

The major problem with our system today is the lack of statesmen like Sam Nunn. He even left the Senate after one term because of the partisan politics and the stalemate in our congress. I see little to hope for in the future unless politicians have their feet put to the fire by the ordinary citizen. Most people are disenchanted with the political process in America, as I am. The best way to shake it up is to get involved and tell your representatives what you feel is right. Force the issue. Accuse them of partisanship when you see it. I have tried and tried with my two Senators, but every time I write I get back the form letter stating their opinion on the topic I addressed. There is no personal attachment between the rulers and the peasants. That needs to change.

electrician

September 30th, 2012
2:55 pm

Bishop: “Perhaps we need some incentive so that people either get tax breaks to participate, or they get penalized if they don’t participate. But even in the worse countries in the world, they’ve got greater participation than we have…”

gonna need voter I.D. to make that happen, very strange position indeed.

citizen

September 30th, 2012
4:25 pm

When Citizens United was passed and created an unlimited funding stream through super pacs, the Presidential election will be decided by the money the global banking system contributes versus the amount of oil being pumped out of Saudi Arabia. Good-by the great America that we have loved and lost.

Drew

September 30th, 2012
5:02 pm

“So let me just say that when Michelle Obama comes to Atlanta, and you want her to autograph your new book, you need to show a photo ID to get in line.”

And this analogy is apt because being denied the right to vote is exactly as terrible as being denied the right to an autograph from Michelle Obama.

cc

September 30th, 2012
5:17 pm

Michele:

“He even left the Senate after one term because of the partisan politics and the stalemate in our congress”

Sam Nunn served twenty four years, or four terms, and left the Senate in 1997. He did not leave “after one term” as you stated. At the time he left, there was no “stalemate in our congress” because neither political party had steamrolled the other as did the democrat party in 2008 and 2009.

“I have tried and tried with my two Senators”

Have they been there more than “one term”?

cc

September 30th, 2012
5:29 pm

“Since the intent of the photo ID requirement is to suppress voting, doesn’t Olens’ seemingly convincing explanation ring hollow?”

The intent of the photo ID requirement is to suppress voter fraud. Democrats are understandably upset about requiring ID to vote as it will doubtless cost them (and ACORN) some votes. Photo ID is required for nearly every transaction in which an individual is involved. This includes traveling by aircraft, bank transactions, cashing of checks (including social security and welfare checks), visits to many doctors’ offices, medical procedures whether done as an out-patient or in-patient at hospitals, operating a motor vehicle, etc. The photo ID was free to all persons who could not afford to pay for it. Your complaints and charges are invalid.

Why, when photo ID is required for so many things, should it NOT be required for something so sacred as a vote?

cc

September 30th, 2012
5:38 pm

“Good-by the great America that we have loved and lost.”

I do believe you are correct in the above statement. $16 trillion in debt ($6 trillion in the past three and three-quarter years alone), the appeasement of enemies that wish our nation destroyed, the systematic ignoring of constitutional issues by the executive and the rendering of the House and Senate irrelevant by use of illegal executive orders have definitely taken a toll on America. The national debt is now 70+% of GDP and growing.

honested

September 30th, 2012
6:39 pm

cc,

Since there were no documented cases of ‘voter fraud’ to support the onerous and expensive ALEC sponsored voter suppression effort, shouldn’t the State of Georgia have declared victory and left things alone?
It would have certainly saved money….

But it would not have prevented the election of Representatives and Senators who would refuse to quietly acquiesce to the dictates of the OnePartyState.

honested

September 30th, 2012
6:41 pm

cc,

And as for our two current acting ‘Senators’, it is hard to tell just how long they have been there, or if they are accomplishing anything other than fund raising.

Kris

September 30th, 2012
6:54 pm

@ honestead, “accomplishing anything other than fund raising.”

That about sums it up fundraising, blowing hot air..Have they EVER done anything for the citizens. NOT.

AS for Two Sams, an Elliott and a Sanford ..fundraising and pocket lining.

This can bechanged just VOTE!

Decatur on Fire

September 30th, 2012
6:59 pm

Tear ‘em up, Sam!!

cc

September 30th, 2012
8:33 pm

“Since there were no documented cases of ‘voter fraud’ to support the onerous and expensive ALEC sponsored voter suppression effort,”

I attempted twice to answer your incorrect (or intentionally false?) statement above with links to information documenting voter fraud, but neither was allowed to post. I suggest you Google ‘voter fraud’ and ‘voter fraud in GA’. Twelve people were indicted in south Georgia for voter fraud in the not too distant past. Also, there is no way to tell how many cases of undetected voter fraud have taken place.

I’m sure that the democrat party and ACORN are opposed to a photo ID requirement as it will doubtless reduce the number of votes democrat candidates will receive.

It is strange to me that what you term as voter suppression still allowed for a higher than normal voter turnout of ‘minority’ voters.

As usual, your words have no substance, but I’ve heard the wind blow through the trees before . . .

cc

September 30th, 2012
8:37 pm

“And as for our two current acting ‘Senators’, it is hard to tell just how long they have been there”

I believe that they need to be replaced; neither of them is conservative enough to suit me . . .

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 30th, 2012
8:48 pm

The GOP is always framing voter fraud as something the dems do. Uh, what was this little thing the GOP was engaged in now in Florida? Oh yeah, thousands of fake new voters signed up. I know I know that was not the GOP but a contractor they hired. Blame the contractor? Really? Is Tony Hayward (former BP HMFIC) overseeing this?

double

September 30th, 2012
8:54 pm

Listen to the Cranks and Crazies.The America we love,and lost.Only been lost since Obama elected.And the Bush boys found Iraq.

cc

September 30th, 2012
8:55 pm

“I know I know that was not the GOP but a contractor they hired”

They FIRED the contractor; the dims would have given him a long-term contract paid for by the taxpayers, a bonus and a battery of attorneys to defend himself with if indicted by a grand jury, and YOU KNOW IT’S THE TRUTH!

electrician

September 30th, 2012
9:04 pm

back to the point of the column ‘“Even if you are 100 percent sure that your political party or your candidate is right, and the other party is 100 percent wrong, no party after this election is going to be able to impose its will fiscally on the other’ dont get distracted….

You dont say

September 30th, 2012
9:05 pm

Last November, there was a fairly competitive gubernatorial race in Maryland. Late on Election Day, robocalls targeted more than 100,000 Democratic households, telling voters to “relax” and not bother voting because Dems were going to win. It was one of the most blatant examples of GOP voter-suppression tactics in a long while.

Fortunately, those responsible got caught. Yesterday, a jury convicted the Republican ringleader.

Paul E. Schurick, the 2010 campaign manager for former Maryland governor Robert L. Ehrlich Jr., was convicted Tuesday by a Baltimore jury of four counts stemming from a robocall that prosecutors said was intended to suppress the black vote.

The call, which Schurick acknowledged authorizing, was placed on Election Day to 112,000 voters in Baltimore and Prince George’s County, the state’s two largest majority-African American jurisdictions. Recipients were told by an unidentified woman that they could “relax” because Gov. Martin O’Malley (D) had been successful.

Fortunately, other members of the former Republican governor’s team will also stand trial for their role.

You dont say

September 30th, 2012
9:07 pm

Uh ohhttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/us/indiana-secretary-of-state-convicted-in-voter-fraud-case.html?_r=0, cc as usual came uniformed and ill informed to the blog

You dont say

September 30th, 2012
9:08 pm

You dont say

September 30th, 2012
9:08 pm

cc

Could not make it out of bed if he didn’t have his right wing talking points to rely on and regurgitate each day

You dont say

September 30th, 2012
9:11 pm

Republican Comes Unglued When Asked to Provide Examples of Voter Fraud

DARLING: And there’ve been examples of voter fraud… in Florida. Look at ACORN.
TODD: Where is this voter fraud? I mean it is not this giant…
DARLING: We’ve had recent examples.
TODD: We’re talking about one or two people here, one or two people… and we’re not even a hundred percent sure.
DARLING: We just had a Michigan Congressman [Republican Thaddeus McCotter] resign… not run for re-election because he gathered signatures… his campaign gathered signatures that couldn’t be validated.
TODD: Yeah, but that’s a case of petition signatures being valid. I mean that’s a different law here.
DARLING: Yeah, but it’s very hard to catch voter fraud. Look at what James O’Keefe did. He walked into DC, he didn’t have any ID. One of his guy video…
TODD: Did he vote?
DARLING: No, he didn’t vote.
TODD: See?
DARLING: He didn’t vote. But he asked for a ballot and they were gonna give it to him.
TODD: Right, but you’re actually proving the point here. That the fraud didn’t take place because they prevented it.
DARLING: But it’s very hard to catch the fraud. That’s why you have to do it before Election Day. If you try to do it on Election Day, you’ll never catch any of the fraud.

You dont say

September 30th, 2012
9:13 pm

2002 New Hampshire Senate election phone jamming scandal

In the 2002 New Hampshire Senate election phone jamming scandal, Republican officials attempted to reduce the number of Democratic voters by paying professional telemarketers in Idaho to make repeated hang-up calls to the telephone numbers used by the Democratic Party’s ride-to-the-polls phone lines on election day. By tying up the lines, voters seeking rides from the Democratic Party would have more difficulty reaching the party to ask for transportation to and from their polling places

You dont say

September 30th, 2012
9:17 pm

cc it is a two way street

Both parties are guilty but you are so so gullible because he has allowed talk radio and your fav website to brainwash you into thinking so myopically, that you are barely think,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, more regurgitation of talking points

Step up your game………. Expand your horizons

I have faith in you that you have the ability to think. You brain works, it is just in hibernation from years of you willingly turning it off in favor of being brainwashed by you fav pundits and website

Wake the F up……………………. before it is to late

:-)

electrician

September 30th, 2012
9:19 pm

one mention of voter ID and it turns a discussion of the immediate need of serious fiscal reform into a a festival of worn out left/right conspiracies on voter fraud, this is why the blogosphere is pointless, the mind numbing distraction of polarization,exactly what this thread started out to address. this is the first time in months that i have visited any political blogs, just to remind me of why i stopped reading them.

cc

September 30th, 2012
9:22 pm

“Law enforcement officials have charged 12 people with using absentee ballots to skew an election in Georgia.
“As a result of their grand jury findings, 12 individuals were indicted in that particular matter and we will be trying that case in a court of judicial law instead of a court of public opinion,” District Attorney Joe Mulholland told the local TV station, WALB.”

http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/24/12-charged-with-voter-fraud-in-georgia-election/

You dont say

September 30th, 2012
9:23 pm

During the United States Senate election in Virginia, 2006, Secretary of the Virginia State Board of Elections Jean Jensen concluded that incidents of voter suppression appeared widespread and deliberate. Documented incidents of voter suppression include:[33]

* Democratic voters receiving calls incorrectly informing them voting will lead to arrest.
* Widespread calls fraudulently claiming to be “[Democratic Senate candidate Jim] Webb Volunteers,” falsely telling voters their voting location had changed.
* Fliers paid for by the Republican Party, stating “SKIP THIS ELECTION” that allegedly attempted to suppress African-American turnout.

The FBI has since launched an investigation into the suppression attempts.[34] Despite the allegations, Democrat Jim Webb narrowly defeated incumbent George Allen.

You dont say

September 30th, 2012
9:24 pm

Wisconsin

The Republican Party attempted to have all 60,000 voters in the heavily Democratic city of Milwaukee who had registered since 1/1/2006 deleted from the voter rolls. The requests were rejected by the Milwaukee Election Commission with Republican commissioner Bob Spindell voting in favor of deletion.”[41]

You dont say

September 30th, 2012
9:25 pm

Time for cc to be a LION Christian and not a lying Christian

Step it up son, step it up.

You ought to be embarrassed for yourself. If not yourself, then for your family do to who you are…………..

You dont say

September 30th, 2012
9:26 pm

Montana

On October 5, 2008 the Republican Lt. Governor of Montana, John Bohlinger, accused the Montana Republican Party of vote caging to purge 6,000 voters from three counties which trend Democratic. These purges included decorated war veterans and active duty soldiers.

You dont say

September 30th, 2012
9:27 pm

Disinformation about voting procedures

Voters may be given false information about when and how to vote, leading them to fail to cast valid ballots. For example, in recall elections for the Wisconsin State Senate in 2011, Americans for Prosperity (a conservative organization that was supporting Republican candidates) sent many Democratic voters a mailing that gave an incorrect deadline for absentee ballots. Voters who relied on the deadline in the mailing would have sent in their ballots too late for them to be counted.[18] The organization said that the mistake was a typographical error.[19]

cc

September 30th, 2012
9:27 pm

You dont say:

Voter fraud is illegal, no matter who does it. It should always be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Just because both sides do it doesn’t legitimize it. The voter ID law shows no favoritism to any political affiliation, which makes suspect anyone or any group decrying its need and usage.

Haven’t listened to talk radio in a while now; have I missed anything?

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 30th, 2012
9:30 pm

Of course the GOP fired the contractor. They got caught and had to save face so they throw a low level subordinate under the bus. Had they not been caught they would have seen it through.

Kris

September 30th, 2012
9:33 pm

@ You dont say “2002 New Hampshire Senate election phone jamming scandal”

Look for part II and other tomfoolery Courtney of the GOP scum. Be on the lookout for GOP smokescreens to hide whats really going on ..For example that shotgunnin’ and golf coursing bonanza. (pocket lining).

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 30th, 2012
9:39 pm

“Voter fraud is illegal, no matter who does it. It should always be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law”
************************

Agreed

You dont say

September 30th, 2012
9:43 pm

my point is that if you listen to the “fright wing”, one would think it is just a Democratic issue when that is not the case at all

Republicans are just as dirty and involved in voter fraud and suppression as the Democrats

honested

September 30th, 2012
11:12 pm

To the point of the article, the solution is now and always be, return to the sane revenue policies that ended in 2001.
I realize those with the most to pay will whine the loudest and hire the best lobbyists, but the revenue system requires collection from those able to pay……
Especially since they have the most to lose if the system collapses.

Buckhead Boy

October 1st, 2012
5:03 am

cc, ACORN has been dead and gone for two years. Sorry you missed that. And, you appear unaware that Nate Sproul has been a Republican contractor for many years, changing the name of his operation every couple to stay ahead of the complaints. In fact, he says that it was the RNC that suggested the most recent name change from Lincoln Strategies this summer for that very reason. Maybe you have heard of Lincoln Strategies? I suppose not. However, what ACORN and Sproul did regarding mis or mal-registration could be prevented by voter ID, and hardly supports the need for Voter ID. And, voter ID will not prevent the mis or mal-use of absentee ballots; and again does not support the need for Voter ID. You then suggest, that “(t)he voter ID law shows no favoritism to any political affiliation”. That is an opinion which doesn’t seem to be shared by many, but most importantly the courts. I suppose that you have missed those recent rulings too.

Wilbur

October 1st, 2012
5:55 am

Galloway and his fellow pundits who shill day after day for democrats and who relentlessly serve as democrat attack proxies need to get a mirror. If we think that our politics are divisive, maybe the media needs to step up and take a little responsibility. Even in this piece, Galloway attacks the Tea party but does not acknowledge that Obama and the left set about to pass Obama care in the most partisan form possible.
When the history is written, the media will bear much responsibility for the consequences of our divided nation.

honested

October 1st, 2012
7:56 am

wilbur,

Could you outline the ‘logic’ that brings you to such an outlandish conclusion?

Cynthia Tucker McKinney

October 1st, 2012
8:12 am

I had no idea that Bishop could read. Shocking.

Cynthia Tucker McKinney

October 1st, 2012
8:25 am

Did you get a chance to ask Bishop about the Jr. Marshall program he fleeced? Did you get a chance to ask him about the fact that the GA 2nd has lost 250,000 jobs under his failed representation? Boot Bishop! House for House!

Whirled Peas

October 1st, 2012
8:52 am

Jim Galloway, you again prove to be a partisan hack. No way would any rational person look to Nunn or Bishop to solve our spending problem. These guys are the problem. You don’t send in two alcoholics to find out why the booze level in the bottles keeps dropping.

Look before I leap...

October 1st, 2012
9:26 am

” Did you get a chance to ask him about the fact that the GA 2nd has lost 250,000 jobs under his failed representation? ”

Citation? Your number seems a bit high for a district with less than 700k people in it.
Or is this just a case of blowing smoke and using fictitious stats to back it up?

Cynthia Tucker McKinney

October 1st, 2012
10:36 am

Bishop, aka the plane leaker, admitted the 250k number during his debate with Mike Keown in 2010.
I was there. The Albany Herald did a story on it in 2010. Bishop is a crook and a disgrace. He’s is under investigation by the house ethics committee for all sorts of stuff. His wife is equally corrupt and shady.

Owebama stinks and so does Bishop

October 1st, 2012
11:12 am

Bishop is a corrupt geezer. Vote him out.

Owebama stinks and so does Bishop

October 1st, 2012
11:21 am

Unfortunately, Bishop’s district is safe for him. No member of the congressional black caucus lost in the 2010 shellacking. He will remain a congressmess til he’s convicted or assumes room temp. Too bad for the GA 2nd.

Look before I leap...

October 1st, 2012
12:12 pm

“Bishop, aka the plane leaker, admitted the 250k number during his debate with Mike Keown in 2010.”

Which debate? They had several. Interesting that there is no mention of this admission that I can find.
Care to provide a link to a credible source? Note: CON UNDERGROUND does not count.

GBI investigated the Jr Marshall allegations and found no evidence of wrong-doing.
Do I think Bishop is as pure as new fallen snow? No, but aside from a dishonorable mention in CREW’s 2011 report, I just don’t see much on the guy. Hardly qualifies as the most corrupt member of Congress.

Cynthia Tucker McKinney

October 1st, 2012
12:40 pm

I never said he was the most corrupt member of congress. The GA 2nd has lost the jobs. Bishop is a puppet of the Democrat leadership in the house. He votes in lock step with Stretch Pelosi and the other libs. Bishop pees on planes (in the kitchenette), drinks too much and hasn’t done much at all for his constituents. He is still under investigation by the house ethics committee and his wife has been investigated for check fraud in Muscogee Co. Bishop was also rumored to have been caught with an underage boy (both in their undies) in the mid 1990’s. Bottom line: The GA 2nd deserves better than Congressmess Bishop.