Tea party souring on GOP: ‘We’re fighting a two-front war’
Tea partyists are already drawing lines in anticipation of a Mitt Romney collapse.
Below is language from a fund-raising email over the name of Jenny Beth Martin, the Cherokee County woman who is a co-founder of Tea Party Patriots.
The letter focuses on Majority Leader Eric Cantor’s recent statement that a victory by President Barack Obama could undercut House Republican opposition to tax increases in the “fiscal cliff” negotiations that a lame-duck Congress must take up before the end of the year.
From the TPP email:
We need to stop Obama’s big government agenda this fall and then make sure the Republican political establishment doesn’t sell us out next January.
Patriot, the challenges facing our movement are even greater than I expected. We are, in effect, fighting a two front war.
One against Barack Obama and his cronies who are turning America into a socialist wasteland.
And another against professional politicians like Eric Cantor and Tom Cole who believe they need to surrender to the liberals at the first sign of trouble.
Let me be perfectly clear: No matter who wins the Presidency in November the Tea Party Movement is not going anywhere. We are going to keep fighting against tax hikes, higher government spending and out-of-control government.
And if Obama does win, we will fight any politician who believes that the federal government doesn’t have enough money and that taxes should go up.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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joe
September 27th, 2012
1:37 pm
…”against Barack Obama and his cronies who are turning America into a socialist wasteland.”
Amen! If you want to see the writing on the wall, look at the best current example of a socialist wasteland…Greece. If Obama gets his way, we will look like that in years, not decades.
DJ Sniper
September 27th, 2012
1:37 pm
The Tea Party: The biggest threat this country is currently facing. These morons need to understand that compromise is a party of government. There will be times with one side simply is not going to get what they want, while there will be other times when both sides can get what they want. You can’t just take your ball and go home like a spoiled child.
Carol
September 27th, 2012
1:39 pm
Anger little bugger isn’t she. Socialist wasteland.
DJ Sniper
September 27th, 2012
1:40 pm
And for pete’s sake, please stop repeating the talking point that this country is headed towards socialism.
Jon Lester
September 27th, 2012
1:41 pm
Well, you know what? The government really doesn’t have enough money, and taxes do need to be raised in the higher brackets.
I don’t doubt the Tea Party will “stay,” but I don’t think it’ll do much growing.
J Kilgore
September 27th, 2012
1:42 pm
She is exactly right. Speaking as an active Republican and a county officer, I will NOT SUPPORT any Republican who surrenders to the liberal, socialist agenda in this country. I do NOT believe that Romney will lose, but if that happens, I expect the Republican Party leadership to continue to oppose ANY tax increase, to continue to advocate for smaller government managed by more fiscally responsible leaders. If the current Republican leadership is not up to that challenge, then that Party will die and another will take its place. It is up to the Republican leadership to purge the Cantors and the Boehners from the Party and to renew our true conservative commitments.
cc
September 27th, 2012
1:46 pm
“Tea partyists are already drawing lines in anticipation of a Mitt Romney collapse.”
Sorry, Galloway, you’ll have to offer up something better than this to prove “anticipation of a Mitt Romney collapse”. Unless I totally missed something in the statement by Ms. Martin, I saw nothing indicating what you suggest.
A little ‘liberal projection’, Jim?
cc
September 27th, 2012
1:50 pm
“Greece. If Obama gets his way, we will look like that in years, not decades.”
I think “months” would be more likely rather than “years”.
DJ Sniper
September 27th, 2012
1:58 pm
J Kilgore, please explain how you expect revenue to be raised with no tax increases at all. I know TP folks love to say that cutting spending is the answer, but you must realize that cutting spending alone. Also, will you and other TP folks please cease and desist with the whole “socialist” label? This country is not, nor has it ever been, headed towards socialism. Please step away from the right wing talking points.
boib
September 27th, 2012
2:11 pm
Tea party should break from the republicans and form its own political party. And take the christian taliban with them.
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
September 27th, 2012
2:14 pm
“Greece. If Obama gets his way, we will look like that in years, not decades.”
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Actually that is how it will look if the Tea Party gets their way. The severe spending cuts have accelerated the economic downward spiral in Greece. Private sector job growth in US is improving but is tampered by job losses in the public sector. Job losses that would only accelerate under any type of austerity plan.
You don't say
September 27th, 2012
2:28 pm
Panic is setting in…………
hahahahaha
WAW
September 27th, 2012
2:36 pm
Well finally there is hope that the Republican Party might be saved. Hopefully, the Tea Party will officially become the United States’ Third Party. With all the success it can muster (not much) for austerity politics. There’s another % that comes into play besides Mitt’s 47%. That is the number of Americans who receive part or all of their income via government (the President, Members of Congress, Judges, DA’s, Title Clerks, Teachers, all Military, Police, Fireman, Governors, Legislators, Prison Guards, etc., etc., etc.) which also includes almost all the Tea Party’s supporters. People! People! People! How long will you vote against yourself? In the voting booth, not far!
Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
September 27th, 2012
2:37 pm
The “tea party” is just a cloak worn by Rome’s Fifth Column, the same way they donned the name “Whig” after they filched it from the “de facto” anti-Roman Catholic Founders of America.
Road Scholar
September 27th, 2012
2:41 pm
Don’t ,forget that bogeyman standing right behind you! Now it is a 3 front war!!! If you hear voices, we can make it a 4 front war!
Road Scholar
September 27th, 2012
2:43 pm
Oh and bless their little hearts!
ByteMe
September 27th, 2012
2:56 pm
Jenny Beth is nuts.
The GOP is the one that should be souring on the Tea Party. The GOP thought they could control it, but found out that it will end up losing them elections.
Wow
September 27th, 2012
3:03 pm
President Obama won the 2008 election, so he deserves the title of “President” in front of his name. Next time, refer to him as President Obama. Thanks
the cat
September 27th, 2012
3:17 pm
Maybe they can hire Karen Handel to help with their campaign.
Obama is dishonest
September 27th, 2012
3:17 pm
“Tea partyists are already drawing lines in anticipation of a Mitt Romney collapse.”
WOW……what a left-wing partisan (illogical & unsubstantiated) comment! Jim you are very predictable and extremely biased.
People who do not realize we are ALREADY on a path towards socialism are ignorant (plain & simple). If you happen to be one of these people……………please please please do some research regarding the subject (you will undoubtedly realize that America is really close to being considered a socialist society by definition and we will get there by the end of Obama’s second term IF voters remain uninformed and ignorant regarding the facts).
Forget the media and your emotional based decisions; do what is best for America………..Vote against Obama OR simply stay home if you plan to cast a vote for this dishonest and horrible incumbent president. You might consider this a difficult task; however, many Americans would agree this would be a patriotic act.
Please become informed prior to casting votes in important elections!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cc
September 27th, 2012
3:20 pm
Wow@3:03 pm:
Obama? Hussein? Socialist? Communist? Muslim? Moocher-In-Chief? Empty suit? Empty chair?
Anything but . . .
. . . ‘cause I KNOW you showed the same respect to President G. W. Bush!
Look before I leap...
September 27th, 2012
3:23 pm
Every time I see the word “socialist” used in this blog, I know the poster is a mindless Limbot and move to the next post.
cc
September 27th, 2012
3:24 pm
Obama is dishonest@3:17 pm:
Well said! The only thing I would add is that if Obama is re-elected, it will be the last presidential election held in America barring armed insurrection.
cc
September 27th, 2012
3:26 pm
“Every time I see the word “socialist” used in this blog, I know the poster is a mindless Limbo and move to the next post.”
Only the uninformed or unintelligent fail to see it . . .
Our Less Fortunate Friends
September 27th, 2012
3:36 pm
Funny, those of us on the left feel the same way about you.
Except one of us favors the professional study of repeatable reality and accepts their council.
The other has to deny, distort, destroy and decieve the results from the self same.
I know where I’m putting my poker chips…and it isn’t on the side of truthiness.
You don't say
September 27th, 2012
3:38 pm
Well said! The only thing I would add is that if Obama is re-elected, it will be the last presidential election held in America barring armed insurrection.
_________________________
Paranoia is no joke. It should be taken seriously………… You should see a therapist before the hallucinations kick in
hahahahahah
clown
cc
September 27th, 2012
3:42 pm
I accepted that Obama was initially elected because of speaking ability and his delivery of the rhetoric the majority of voters wanted to hear at that time. At the same time, I knew that the people supporting him could NOT have looked into his background and beliefs.
The only logical conclusion concerning ANYONE who still supports him is that they fall into one of three categories:
A person supporting Obama now is willfully and blissfully ignorant.
A person supporting Obama now has no knowledge of history, advent and progression of communism ultimately ending in dictatorship and complete loss of freedom.
A person supporting Obama now has made the conscience decision that he/she prefers communism to capitalism, having never experienced communism or learned anything about its resulting human poverty and suffering.
There is NO OTHER POSSIBILITY . . .
cc
September 27th, 2012
3:45 pm
“clown”
. . . and you are the worst kind of fool.
Joseph Wilson
September 27th, 2012
3:49 pm
Spending cuts and austerity in Europe have caused a double-dip recession. The weak stimulus in the U.S. cushioned us from going into another recession. Obama’s Jobs Act would help state and local governments restore cuts in education and public safety (teacher, police, and firefighters at pre-recession levels). It is what Republican Presidents have done in the past when economic conditions worsen. Republicans feared a rising economic recovery in 2012 so they blocked jobs act to help them paint a dire economic picture and win the election. That strategy looks like it backfired on the GOP, according to the polls.
Two-thirds of the deficits comes from the Bush tax cuts, funding for two wars on the credit card, and an unfunded Medicare drug prescription benefit (proposed by Bush). Putting the tax rates back to the level they were under President Bill Clinton would help the economy grow.
People don’t forget what happened under the George W. Bush administration and Republicans are offering the same solutions that caused the problem in the first place. Clinton campaigns tirelessly for Obama next month and where is Bush? Is he under the Republican Federal Witness Protection Program? Only Democrats bring his name up and Republicans would like you to forget what happened from 2001 to 2008.
cc
September 27th, 2012
3:51 pm
Our Less Fortunate Friends:
I learned and made it a policy long ago to never stand between a fool and his destiny. The problem now is that my destiny is now inextricably tied to the destinies of fools.
mark
September 27th, 2012
4:03 pm
I heard gasoline was pretty cheap in Venezula, due to the govt owning the oil, refineries and stations. So if you old tea baggers, who got every advantage of a free spending govt, does not want to share, too bad!! Give back your SS money each month, Don’t use medicare or your prescription plan that Bush gave you. Have your family return your death benifit when you die. What a bunch of cry babies!! The Tea baggers= old, white and milking the system.
Darwin
September 27th, 2012
4:05 pm
The Tea Party is nothing but a bunch of idiots.
cc
September 27th, 2012
4:12 pm
mark:
Are those people to be given back all the money they have paid into Social Security/Medicare? Will their employers be given back the monies they contributed to Social Security/Medicare? A death benefit of $255.00? Wow, what a loss!
These people and their employees have paid for those benefits: they aren’t being given anything.
cc
September 27th, 2012
4:13 pm
Darwin:
Still TRYING to evolve, eh?
Don Abernethy
September 27th, 2012
4:13 pm
I will vote Republican to try to save out country.But…..I will have to omit the Democrat idiots are beating the tar out of the two losers I am counting on namely the Republicans and Tea Party. Both will be replaced if we lose. Democrats have had a free ride too long. They need some real competition and a good whipping and I will bet my side will rise up this time if we lose..
GDI
September 27th, 2012
4:17 pm
Why do libs want to inject money into the economy with more stimulus and then remove money from the economy with higher taxes?
CommonSenseIsUseful
September 27th, 2012
4:17 pm
Again, use some common sense folks. Obama won Florida by 2 and Ohio by 4 in 2008. And you really believe that he’s leading by 10 in those states? Think for yourselves people, the polls are complete b/s:
CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac poll is a joke. The Poll sample in Florida D+9. In 2008 the exit poll showed D+3 and in 2004 it was R+4 so in this election it should probably be minimum R+1 or +2.
Ohio D+9. In 2008 it was D+8; In 2004 it was R+5
Pennsylvania D+11. in 2008 it was D+7 while in 2004 it was D+2
If anyone thinks that the Dems are going to vote in the record numbers they did in 2008 again in 2012, you’re just not dealing with reality. Obama has been a colossal failure, the youth vote is abandoning him as they sit unemployed, the Jewish vote is falling for him, the Catholic vote is falling for him, the independent vote is dramatically falling for him. Use your own mind and try to convince yourself that Obama is going to win MORE votes than he did in 2008? Hey, in 2008 he ran a great campaign, full of feel good slogans and promises (none of which he accomplished) and it was greatly stacked against the Repubs in 2008 as we were all disappointed in Bush and the economy was cratering.
Use some common sense people.
You don't say
September 27th, 2012
4:20 pm
cc
You are drowning in ignorance.
You are Romney need to take your clown shows on the road as a duo………
He is toast……………….. You will cry and site this or that, but you know it.
Enjoy the ride……… Bozo
Kris
September 27th, 2012
4:20 pm
Pee party be gone and good riddance. What a waste of time.
Impeach DEAL recall his cronies.
Re-elect President OBAMA
Our Less Fortunate Friends
September 27th, 2012
4:21 pm
Again, CC, we share exactly the same opinion of the other side but from diametrically opposing positions.
I believe that anyone voting for Romney is now in one of three categories:
1) They are more loyal to their ideology than they are to the country. That they will see the country drive itself into the ground before they will give an inch on any subject that they are told to toe the line on.
2) They are willfully and blissfully ignorant.
3) They have no knowledge of history, advent and progression of fascism, having never experienced fascism or learned anything about its resulting human poverty and suffering.
THERE ARE OTHER POSSIBILITIES…
But you well demonstrate that they are highly highly unlikely.
cc
September 27th, 2012
4:29 pm
CommonSenseIsUseful@4:17 pm:
Don’t confuse them with facts; they have no real hold on reality as it is.
cc
September 27th, 2012
4:33 pm
Our Less Fortunate Friends:
Try looking at this another way; there are two trains only departing the station, one bound for hell and the other for an unknown destination and you MUST choose one. If you’re not particularly interested in touring hell, much less living there, what is your only other choice?
honested
September 27th, 2012
4:39 pm
When she says the ‘tea party movement isn’t going anywhere’ doesn’t she mean it is just running in place?
You don't say
September 27th, 2012
4:44 pm
Try looking at this another way; there are two trains only departing the station, one bound for hell and the other for an unknown destination and you MUST choose one. If you’re not particularly interested in touring hell, much less living there, what is your only other choice?
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Seeing that is not reality but your ill informed brainwashed talk radio ignorance………………. it means nothing
You don't say
September 27th, 2012
4:48 pm
cc
Lying is a sin. So if you are a Christian, stop doing it
Your Jesus would not be a proud man if he read the crap and lies you post on a regular basis
cc
September 27th, 2012
4:49 pm
You don’t say:
I think we’re finished . . .
It’s my error! Talking with a stump . . .
DJ Sniper
September 27th, 2012
4:50 pm
You know the right wing paranoia is getting bad when a Catholic bishop says that voting for Obama will condemn your soul to hell. You can cut the irony with a knife.
another comment
September 27th, 2012
4:51 pm
I believe that alot of idiots and pompous Georgian’s will get a big surprise when the President wins by a Landslide in November. Everyone on my facebook from Florida is Pro Obama. Everyday, I get Pro Obama stuff from them. Followed by those from Ohio, and Penn. Along with North Carolina and even those who live in South Carolina believe that South Carolina is in play. Why do they believe South Carolina is in play, because of Nicki Haley. Some of them even voted for Nicki Haley because she was a women. But she has turned out to be an idiot, just a Tea Bag wind bag. Those in Florida definitely think they have the worse Republican Gov. So you will not see those states taking a chance on another Republican or the Tea Party.
cc
September 27th, 2012
4:52 pm
Our Less Fortunate Friends:
As I wrote . . . you and I are done.
DJ Sniper
September 27th, 2012
4:52 pm
Something tells me that if these polls were tilted towards Romney, our resident conservatives would swear up and down that they were accurate. The only poll that matters is the final poll on November 6th.
On that day, let’s sit back and see what shenanigans the right may try to pull off.
honested
September 27th, 2012
4:56 pm
Of course the conserrrrrrrrvatives dispute the polls.
They dispute education.
They dispute evolution.
They probably (in private) dispute gravity.
And they can’t explain why, even with a special dedicated network and almost all of talk radio that they are neither fooling nor converting anybody.
Obama 2012!
cc
September 27th, 2012
4:56 pm
“Lying is a sin. So if you are a Christian, stop doing it Your Jesus would not be a proud man if he read the crap and lies you post on a regular basis”
As I wrote . . . you and I are done.
Don't Tread
September 27th, 2012
4:57 pm
Jenny Beth is right. It’s past time to kick the socialists out of office, and anyone else who sells us out to appease the Left.
This country does need a viable third party, but the $64,000 question is (appropriately): who’s going to fund it? Business executives mostly give to Republican establishment types and entertainers mostly give to Democrats. You need big-money donors to effectively run a campaign (at least until most folks use the Internet instead of traditional mass media to get their information).
cc
September 27th, 2012
5:00 pm
Our Less Fortunate Friends:
My 4:52 pm post was not for you. Sorry . . .
Retired Soldier
September 27th, 2012
5:03 pm
J Wilson-
I love it when you blame republicans when the democrats are equally bad or worse. How so?
“Two-thirds of the deficits comes from the Bush tax cuts, funding for two wars on the credit card, and an unfunded Medicare drug prescription benefit (proposed by Bush).”
1. Obama supported a continuation of the Bush tax cuts, Obama signed the extension into law.
2. Two wars on a caed card? Obama paid for them? You can’t say that when Obama is running a larged deficit than Bush did.
3. Drug Prescription Plan? You mean the one that the democrats in Congress voted against because the one they wanted cost even more?
4. Bush isn’t around because he was a lousy president, the only problem is Obama is worse.
cc
September 27th, 2012
5:04 pm
another comment@4:51 pm:
Did they release you or did you escape? The dope must be really good in your alternate reality!
Facebook?
Really!
Ugly Politics
September 27th, 2012
5:05 pm
@cc
September 27th, 2012
4:33 pm
Our Less Fortunate Friends:
Try looking at this another way; there are two trains only departing the station, one bound for hell and the other for an unknown destination and you MUST choose one. If you’re not particularly interested in touring hell, much less living there, what is your only other choice?
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You are definitely a carbon copy of the Tea partyists.
They’re generally old and of moderate to low income.
The demographics of the movement seemingly align with those who traditionally vote for the conservative candidate as well.
56 percent of Tea Party respondents are white male; 22 percent are over the age of 65 (compared with just 14 percent who are between the ages of 18 and 34).
honested
September 27th, 2012
5:06 pm
dont tread,
Where are there any ‘Socialists’ in office?
Did you mean in Sweeden, Finland, Denmark?
Because aside from Bernie Sanders (jeez I wish he were my Senator) there are NONE here.
Retired Soldier
September 27th, 2012
5:09 pm
Ugly Politics-
What’s your point? Don’t those folks have a right to express themself? A right to influence policy or the direction of the country?
cc
September 27th, 2012
5:14 pm
Ugly Politics:
“You are definitely a carbon copy of the Tea partyists.”
Since I’m not a member of the TEA Party, I guess you adjudge that I am a “carbon copy of the Tea partyists”.
“They’re generally old and of moderate to low income.”
How did you determine my age or income? You have a high to very high income, and just how old are you?
“The demographics of the movement seemingly align with those who traditionally vote for the conservative candidate as well.
56 percent of Tea Party respondents are white male; 22 percent are over the age of 65 (compared with just 14 percent who are between the ages of 18 and 34).”
. . . and where did you get all this valuable information?
Daniel
September 27th, 2012
5:16 pm
I would be cranky too if I were a fat pig of a women (seriously, google image her name if you aren’t eating). I always appreciate when someone is equally ugly on the outside as they are on the inside.
The Tea Party’s agenda is more dangerous to American prosperity than the Taliban or Al Queda will ever be. These fascists hide behind nationalism to push hateful agendas – kinda like the Nazis did.
Please everyone vote against the republicans, even if you don’t vote for Obama. We must break up this hyper conservative faction that has hijacked our party. If they lose this election, the sane Republicans will take the party back for 2016.
And Jenny Beth, we know that the Tea Party isn’t going away; Hate mongers will always exist. We are just going to silence you, so you can sit in your trailer in woodstock and eat fried chicken with your white trash family. Welcome to the 21st century
You don't say
September 27th, 2012
5:16 pm
cc
Jesus is disappointed in you. He doesn’t like cowards and liars……
He wants you to be a LION Christian, not a lying Christian.
You are not even a kitten
You don't say
September 27th, 2012
5:18 pm
“As I wrote . . . you and I are done.”
You do not make the rules on these blogs. I will reserve the right to respond when I wish to do so. You have them same right as well.
Tough if you can’t handle it.
You don't say
September 27th, 2012
5:20 pm
Retired Soldier
We all have the right, but we do not have the right to not have someone respond to it, critique it, ridicule it or for that matter praise and agree with it.
honested
September 27th, 2012
5:22 pm
Daniel,
Good luck with that.
If only Senator millar’s voter suppression committee had a different goal.
A goal that prevented stupid people from voting instead of preventing people who oppose his teaclown views from voting.
Retired Soldier
September 27th, 2012
5:22 pm
Daniel-
Wild talk. Just a few questions
1. When has a Tea Party member been a sucide bomber?
2. When has a Tea Party member flown a plane into a building?
Tea Party members, for the most part, espouse balanced budgets, free trade, and lower taxes.
3. Which of those three are fascist or nazi?
Retired Soldier
September 27th, 2012
5:24 pm
You don’t say-
I agree.
cc
September 27th, 2012
5:25 pm
You don’t say@5:18 pm:
“You do not make the rules on these blogs. I will reserve the right to respond when I wish to do so. You have them same right as well.”
Sorry, I forgot that I needed to simplify for you. This is the very last response you will ever get from me. Now, as I wrote, you and I are finished . . .
honested
September 27th, 2012
5:26 pm
retired
1-Timothy McVeigh (member of an anti-tax, ‘christian’ extremist precursor to the tea-party).
2-The guy in Austin about 3 years ago who flew into the IRS facility.
3-Look to the hidden leadership (funders) to answer that question.Dick Armey is an ideal poster boy.
You don't say
September 27th, 2012
5:28 pm
cc
you must have had to stop for a minute to compose yourself, wipe the snot off your nose and keyboard
It will be ok man, it will be ok,,,,,,,
You don't say
September 27th, 2012
5:29 pm
cc
What are we done with?
Retired Soldier
September 27th, 2012
5:29 pm
Honested-
You are absolutely wrong. 1 and 2 had nothing to do with the Tea Party nor would a Tea Party group have allowed those types in.
As for number 3, lame answer friend.
You don't say
September 27th, 2012
5:30 pm
Retired Soldier
By the way. Thanks for your service to this great country
Retired Soldier
September 27th, 2012
5:31 pm
My pleasure, wish I was young enough to still carry the old rucksack.
honested
September 27th, 2012
5:32 pm
retired,
1&2 are cut from the same cloth as the teaclowns (and both perpetrators were as wrong and disjoint from reality as the average teaclown).
3-Without the money flowing through dick armey’s pocket, the whole teaclown outrage would have fizzled within weeks. A government that allowed wealth to control would be inherently fascist.
You don't say
September 27th, 2012
5:34 pm
Didn’t serve myself, but grew up in a military home.
Our Less Fortunate Friends
September 27th, 2012
5:37 pm
Again, same position reversed.
Which Obama would we get in 2013? Fiery campaigner or great capitulator?
With Romney, we know that even of we get governor Romney instead of primary Romney, since the one thing we can all agree on is that a man who runs for president for 7 years will do or say whatever it takes to be reelected; depends on the tea party’s strength in the Republican party in 2016.
Is the tea party getting stronger or weaker in the GOP? Judging by your posts I would guess you would say stronger.
I agree.
A vote for Obama is a vote for anything from bush light to JFK.
A vote for Romney is a vote for the Tea Party.
No thank you.
DJ Sniper
September 27th, 2012
5:38 pm
Here are a couple of things that some Tea Party groups have done or plan to do that are just as dangerous as suicide bombers or people flying planes into building:
1. A TP group in Tennessee wants the state legislature to re-write the history curriculum to minimize the “minority experience.” Long story short, they want to whitewash history to reflect their religious and ideological ideas.
2. A TP spin-off called “True The Vote” is trying to mobilize “poll watching” in minority areas during the election. There’s a report that notes that True the Vote official Bill Ouren has told volunteers they should make voters feel “like driving and seeing the police following you.” And the president of True the Vote coalition partner Judicial Watch has accused the Obama administration of trying to mobilize “the food stamp army” and “steal the election” with the “illegal alien vote.”
Retired Soldier
September 27th, 2012
5:38 pm
Honestead-
As a Tea Party member, I assure you you are incorrect. Every Tea Party event I have been to the folks attending are regular folks sacred about where this country is headed and wanting to make positive change.
To say they are anything other than that is just plain wrong. They are the “silent majority” of the 60’s & early 70’s when our country was in turmoil. The far left has awoken a sleeping giant.
honested
September 27th, 2012
5:42 pm
retired,
So if they are ’scared about where this country is heading’, are they ready to return to a taxation schedule (43% top marginal rate) of the Clinton years when things were much better.
We could even agree to do that until the shrub war debt is paid off and the annual debt service for the Iraqi War of Choice and the Afghan Fiasco are gone.
Is that the positive change they want to make, to pay the bills for errors that occurred before the President who doesn’t look like them came to power?
I didn’t think so, they are more comfortable with their imaginary fear.
Daniel
September 27th, 2012
5:46 pm
Honested – lol. I know, right.
Retired soldier – Answers to your questions
1. never
2. never
3.neither
A lot of the tea partiers’ hearts are in the right place, but they are misguided. The policy they support is not realistic in current America. It would have worked 80 years ago, but not now. Women can vote, blacks can vote, mexicans are here, gays are real and none of that will change. personally don’t care if we turn back the clock to the 1920s because I’m a white guy and I’d probably benefit, however, it isn’t going to happen.
The Republican are manipulating you Tea Partiers. They are tricking the tea party to support policy that is against their best interests. When Romney says, “Obama is going to raise our taxes.” He is telling the truth. Obama will raise THEIR taxes, not OURS. THEY are the filthy rich. And yes, I do think that these billion dollar individuals and corporations should pay more taxes because they take more out of the system. Were it not for the middle 80%, these companies and individuals would not have their obscene wealth. We buy their products, we run their offices, we make them rich. They owe it to America because our system allows them to amass these fortunes. If it is sooo bad to run a business in the US, why don’t these large companies move? When Romney says that if taxes go up, the job creators will quit that is bs. They aren’t motivated by lower taxes, they are motivated by greed. I’d rather make $5million/year and pay 40% tax rate, instead of making $80k/year and pay 14% tax rate.
honested
September 27th, 2012
5:52 pm
Daniel,
Quite accurate.
Which income group benefits most from a strong system in place to ‘protect’ wealth and property?
Which group should be happiest to keep such a system in place (and pay for it)?
Cobbian
September 27th, 2012
5:58 pm
It is well past time to raise taxes again. We grew and created opportunity for everyone when taxes were higher and when we invested in infrastructure. We have turned chicken, not believing in ourselves and what we can accomplish together.
230gr Full Metal Jacket
September 27th, 2012
6:02 pm
I swear, just reading this blog will drop your IQ by at least 10 points. Reading this reminds me of why I moved out of Atlanta in the first place! Most of your parents and teachers would be embarrassed to know that they raised/taught someone so incredibly ignorant as most of the sheeple on here. I’ve seen more outright lies and distortions — from both sides — in this blog than I’ve seen in quite a while. i just have to wonder — are these folks really as delusional as they sound (primarily from the leftists/demosocialists) or are they just trolls trying to start an arguement because they are brave when hiding behind a keyboard where they don’t have to defend or justify their positions.
And “CommonSenseIsUseful” — you forgot, those folks fall into a 4th category also, and this is the most predominant subgroup of his delusional supporters in Atlanta: Those that support him purely because he is “black”. I work with a LOT of those. They have absolutely NO understanding of politics and could care less about his ideaology, all they care about is thaty they have a black president. I usually just remind them that voting for someone based upon his/her race is just as racist and bigoted as voting against someone based upon his/her race. Folks that support Obama because of his race are no better than the skinheads or KKK losers!! There is nothing wrong with supporting him if it is because you support his agenda, but when folks don’t even understand what that agenda is, yet they will vote for him again just because of his race, that is plain wrong at so many levels, and is no better than the racist trash who kept blacks out of office 60+ years ago.
But once again, we are faced with an election where we must choose the lesser of two evils — because neither candidate will be really good for the country. So we are left to choose the one who will do the least damage to our nation — which forces me to just hold my nose and vote for Romney. He may not be much better than the village idiot currently residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, but he CAN’T be any worse!!! I thought I would never see another President as incompetent as Jimmy Carter, but boy oh boy was I wrong. Obama makes O’l Brother Jimmy look like a genius, lol!!
Daniel
September 27th, 2012
6:02 pm
honested – Exactly, I want to ask Romney, Sheldon Aldelson, Koch bros, etc to ask Marie Antoinette what happened when the disparity of wealth gets too big.
I do applaud the Republican’s marketing team because they push people’s vanity and hate buttons to manipulate them to vote against their best interest.
I wish that we didn’t have an Obama, Romney, red, blue, donkey, elephant, abortion, gay marriage, legal pot and just had the parties’ agendas in black and white, arial, 11 font to vote. The dems plan would win 95%-5%
DJ Sniper
September 27th, 2012
6:02 pm
Retired, I hope you realize that the TP is actually not one unified group. The TP group that you belong to may consist of “regular folks”, but there are other groups who are truly out there on the fringe, like the 2 I mentioned in my last post. These are the ones who want to “take this country back”, but we all know what that’s code for.
Daniel
September 27th, 2012
6:05 pm
Enter your comments here
aladawg
September 27th, 2012
6:13 pm
I must reply to the person that stated that obama, barak hussian should be called president. This man has not earned the title. I would love to meet him and call him barak to his face.
Daniel
September 27th, 2012
6:13 pm
Also Retired,
I, personally, would pay lower taxes under the Republican’s plan and am still voting for the Democrats because I understand that any monies that we put in the bottom always works its way back to the top. The wealthy are wealthy because they are smarter than other people. If we give poor people, $10,000 each, they are going to spend $15,000. That comes back to me. That’s why they don’t have money; because they are stupid. If you give a wealthy person $10,000, they may spend $1000 and the rest gets saved, invested, or spent overseas on vacation.
Our Less Fortunate Friends
September 27th, 2012
6:14 pm
If Obama is as “incompotent” as carter name a piece of legislation Carter passed that upset you as much as Obamacare?
Name a speech Carter gave that inspired the left as much as Obama’s 2004 keynote address?
Name a foreign accomplishment under carter comparable to killing Osama Bin Ladin? I can…egypt and Israeli peace…but something tells me in your world, somehow carter doesn’t get credit for that because anything good comes from conservatives and anything bad comes from liberals.
Its as goofy as the klingons claiming Shakespeare was klingon from star trek.
You can dislike Obama…or carter…but before you call him incompotent, give it a basis in fact.
Or just pretend like you always do.
Daniel
September 27th, 2012
6:15 pm
aladawg,
I think people call him president because he won the 2008 american presidential election. I may be wrong though, call donald trump to fact check me
230gr Full Metal Jacket
September 27th, 2012
6:19 pm
DJ, I’ve totally disagreed with almost everything you have posted here, but that last comment at 6:02 was dead-on. That is why the TP will never be taken seriously — they are just a rehashed version of the Libertarian party (which I absolutely support from an idealogical standpoint) which never worked because they are so splintered. The TP at it’s core is a good movement. But like so many other good movements throughout history, they have largely been overrun by the disenfranchised lunatic fringe. The same could be said of both political parties too. The bible-beating right wing extremists are no more representative of the average Republican voter than the demosocialist, neo-fascist left wing extremists are representative of the average democratic voter. But both parties have come to be known by those fringe elements instead of their actual core base. That is why no one I know who has any intellectual honesty will affiliate themselves with EITHER party. Intelligent, independant voters vote for the individual, not the party. I have never voted a straight party ticket in my life and I will be surprised if I ever do, but a lot of folks are too lazy to educate themselves about the candidates and their individual agendas, records, and ideaologies so they just vote for whoever has a “D” or an “R” beside their name. But such is the way of sheeple and minions.
230gr Full Metal Jacket
September 27th, 2012
6:23 pm
Daniel @ 6:13 — that is one of the most intelligent statements I have seen in a while. I don’t understand why more folks don’t see that is how money flows and why. “Trickle-up” economics CAN work, because stupid people are incapable of hanging on to their money (just look at most retired athletes or lottery winners if you doubt that!). Good post!!!
Daniel
September 27th, 2012
6:40 pm
Thanks 230gr.
Yeah, you get it. For an economy to work money must move and flow. Their is a limited amount of capital so when one person gets a bunch of it, someone else loses it. Why was the .com boom so good? It was a massive redistribution of wealth. Some industries weren’t so excited about the .com and internet boom. I don’t think print publications like newspapers and yellow pages liked it. What about tv and print advertisers? I don’t think they liked it either.
How do we make the money move?
Create policy that encourages new industry. What happens if govt says that US will be off petroleum by 2020? Mad money is invested into alternative energy. That would create tens of millions of jobs. Researching technologies, building new fuel stations, cars, infrastructure.
Why doesn’t our govt do this? Because the old companies spend fortunes lobbying our ELECTED officials to create policy that benefits only the few.
How do we fix this?
Put term limits on ALL elected officials; all the way down to PTA presidents
Daniel
September 27th, 2012
6:41 pm
Trickle down is exactly what it is; a trickle.
Start at the bottom and its a geyser.
td
September 27th, 2012
6:51 pm
Well since I have been in Florida all week at my condo, me and my wife decided to pick up an absentee ballot today to make sure I can vote in the Presidential election in Florida before I come home and early vote next week in Georgia.
cc
September 27th, 2012
6:55 pm
td:
Hope you enjoyed FL! I got my absentee ballots from AL, TN, and SC this week, and will do the early vote thing here, too.
td
September 27th, 2012
6:59 pm
cc
Thanks. Still have 2 more days before we have to come home. September is the best month to be at the beach, the air is cooling but the water is still very warm.
Our Less Fortunate Friends
September 27th, 2012
7:04 pm
…..Are you seriously kidding me?
Wow. Just…..wow.
This from the “voter fraud is rampant” so we must have an id crowd…
Dave Francis
September 27th, 2012
7:05 pm
None of these immigration laws are going to matter, if Obama returns for a second term? The only people it’s going to financially affect the taxpayers and the hundreds of billions of dollars to be extracted forcibly from their taxes. President Obama is sure to enact another blanket amnesty as Reagan did in 1986. Only chance to stave-off any of immigration policies is to vote as many TEA Party legislators into Congress as possible. God help us from the two corrupt political parties if we do not? Better also be alert for Democratic Voter fraud now until November, because ACORN is NOT dead.
The TEA PARTY (THE PEOPLE’S) PARTY should not be defined as just white people; they are not, they are millions of Americans of every nationality and skin color. My chapter has Hispanics, Black people, Asians from every walk of life. We are “The People “frustrated with the corruption in both parties. The Liberal oriented mainstream media have constantly lied about the agenda of the TEA PARTY. The TEA PARTY are moderate Constitutionalists, not the hard core Socialists entrenched amongst the Democrats who want open borders and no laws to stop illegal migrants and immigrants from thrashing the U.S. taxpayers safety net.
If you want higher taxes; higher gas prices at the pump; an archaic tax system that benefits the privileged in both parties; a ever growing federal government with rules and regulations that inhibit new business creation; and a president that is giving even more to the “freeloader” parasites that cohabit with the illegal alien invaders who are draining the state reservoirs of money.
I am sure about is the plan of the TEA PARTY if they can eject many Democrats and Republican incumbents and replace them? It’s already happening and by replacing incumbents in the Republican Party can politically persist that the “LEGAL WORKFORCE ACT (E-VERIFY) and the BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP LAW” finds passage and enacted to restrain more illegal alien invaders. They bring their unborn babies here, to live as parasites of the U.S. taxpayer. The children of illegal aliens had no say in coming to America, but by the enactment of the BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP BILL, this incredulous expensive issue for taxpayers is solved.
cc
September 27th, 2012
7:06 pm
td:
Yep, and it’s a lot more peaceful this time of the year, too!
Enjoy your capitalist, profit-making self!
Debbie Dooley
September 27th, 2012
7:13 pm
These “true conservatives” are IDIOTs. When will we learn that compromise is essential to our republic?
Our Less Fortunate Friends
September 27th, 2012
7:17 pm
So it looks like it was Morph who namejacked those two….but I don’t care who you are…please confirm you were kidding or I’ll be reporting you to the FBI, and I assure you, the AJC will give them your IP and email and they will track you down.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/10/that-woman-whos-challenging-indianas-voter-id-law-registered-to-vote-in-two-states/
As for “The Tea Party”…well, if you are not a member, or a republican…just remember last year’s debt ceiling fight. Regardless of which reality you live in, that’s all you need to know…because its more of the same on either side.
cc
September 27th, 2012
7:19 pm
“These “true conservatives” are IDIOTs. When will we learn that compromise is essential to our republic?”
True conservatives find it impossible to compromise with liberal IDIOTS; there is no common ground when libs espouse socialism.
Our Less Fortunate Friends
September 27th, 2012
7:25 pm
If there is no compromise, then there is civil war.
Usually the side that first the first shot loses.
Guess who is more likely to fire the first shot?
NH
September 27th, 2012
7:27 pm
The tea party was never NOT soured on the GOP. It was formed in opposition to the GOP in 2007.
cc
September 27th, 2012
7:30 pm
Our Less Fortunate Friends:
Do you think anyone committing, or attempting to commit, voter fraud would be advertising that fact? If you couldn’t see the humor in that, I really pity you.
td
September 27th, 2012
7:30 pm
How can compromise happen when one group wants to actually lower taxes and cut government and the other group wants to raise taxes and grow government? Can someone please refresh my memory and give me one example of when a lib actual CUT ( not reduce the anticipated future growth and not the military) in government?
Our Less Fortunate Friends
September 27th, 2012
7:34 pm
I’m sorry, but I take voter suppression very seriously. I also take voter fraud seriously.
Clinton 1998.
cc
September 27th, 2012
7:36 pm
td:
Did you see/hear Netanyahu’s address to the U.N. today?
td
September 27th, 2012
7:37 pm
I may or may not be kidding about voting in both states. I own property in both states, receive mail in both states and pay taxes in both states. Since you Dems do not believe in proof to vote then should I not vote in both states?
td
September 27th, 2012
7:39 pm
cc
September 27th, 2012
7:36 pm
td:
Did you see/hear Netanyahu’s address to the U.N. today?
I read the highlights but I was on the beach most of the day and did not hear it. I am sure Obama is praying that he takes no action until after the election,
Our Less Fortunate Friends
September 27th, 2012
7:46 pm
I do believe in proof to vote. I just believe it is such a fundamental right that you must give an ID for free to the poorest person who wants it with no more than 20 minutes of effort to do so. Which includes no backwards fees for identification papers to receive it.
Our Less Fortunate Friends
September 27th, 2012
7:47 pm
I also believe publicly saying you might commit an illegal act on the internet is really really stupid.
cc
September 27th, 2012
7:47 pm
td:
“I read the highlights but I was on the beach most of the day and did not hear it. I am sure Obama is praying that he takes no action until after the election,”
I’m sure you’re right, but I’m equally sure that Israel and Netanyahu will be following their own schedule and not Obama’s, and why shouldn’t they? Obama doesn’t have time to meet with Netanyahu, but I understand he is going to take time out of his busy schedule to talk with him via phone tomorrow. If I were Netanyahu, I wouldn’t take his call . . .
Our Less Fortunate Friends
September 27th, 2012
7:48 pm
If Netanyahu attacks Iran before the presidential election then expect the CIA to start messing with domestic Israeli politics.
Count on it.
cc
September 27th, 2012
7:53 pm
“If Netanyahu attacks Iran before the presidential election then expect the CIA to start messing with domestic Israeli politics.”
I don’t for a second doubt that Obama is stupid enough to try something of that nature. If so, it will be the dumbest thing he’s ever done.
You don't say
September 27th, 2012
9:09 pm
cc
speaking of stupid
Read what you post
most of it falls in that exact category
yuzeyurbrane
September 27th, 2012
9:12 pm
Two thoughts:
1. the long knives are already out on the right–there will be a political bloodbath among Republicans after right-wingnut ideology is soundly rejected by the American people in November.
2. it is amazing what living in an echo chamber does to the power of rational thought.
honested
September 27th, 2012
11:53 pm
The poor teaclowns.
They are about to slip into a 4 year hiatus.
The stunning losses they will help the republiclowns achieve will take a couple of years to heal.
In the meantime, the remaining House freshmen will learn quickly to bow to the leadership of our handily Re-Elected President, because holding their breath and stomping their little feet offers nothing to enhance the lives of average Americans.
S
September 28th, 2012
4:26 am
As it has turned out the Tea Party was nothing but a bunch of clueless Faux Nutty Nuz watchers and listeners of big mouth right wing radio hosts who didn’t even know they were sucked into Republican Party. The Tea Party fools were so dumb they didn’t realize that the Tea Party was taken over by the Extremist in the Republican Party. In other words they were used, by the likes of the Koch Brothers, the Rush’s and the Karl Rove bunch to further their ideology not the Tea Party’s agenda. Not to feel bad though, because even some on the SC have fallen for the Tea/publican agenda.
Tap Out
September 28th, 2012
9:42 am
Were the words “Tea Party” ever uttered at the RNC? LOL…they only wanted Tea Party votes, not their ideas. Used and abused.