Peggy Noonan: ‘Time to admit Romney campaign is an incompetent one’
A surprising column from Peggy Noonan in the Wall Street Journal includes this:
It’s time to admit the Romney campaign is an incompetent one. It’s not big, it’s not brave, it’s not thoughtfully tackling great issues. It’s always been too small for the moment. All the activists, party supporters and big donors should be pushing for change. People want to focus on who at the top is least constructive and most responsible. Fine, but Mitt Romney is no puppet: He chooses who to listen to. An intervention is in order. “Mitt, this isn’t working.”
….Romney doesn’t seem to be out there campaigning enough. He seems—in this he is exactly like the president—to always be disappearing into fund-raisers, and not having enough big public events.
Consider this fodder for Romney’s private fund-raiser at the Marriott Marquis in downtown Atlanta on Wednesday afternoon.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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honested
September 18th, 2012
11:44 pm
In the ‘Even A Blind Hog Eventually Finds an ACORN’ Department, finally peggy noonan gets something correct.
Chuckey Cheez
September 18th, 2012
11:46 pm
Incompetent? Yes.
Dangerous? You bet.
Classically Republican? Check.
This is the death knell for the far-right Republican party. Even Republicans know that this is a knife to the heart. This is a “Lonesome Rhodes” or “Glenn Beck” epic fail moment in American history.
The white power movement has finally shot itself in the head.
Bubba
September 19th, 2012
1:15 am
It is not the end of the far right wing of the Republican party. The party has been purged of centrists. The party will blame Mittens’ loss on his not being sufficiently right wing purist. In 2016, the contest for the nomination will belong to the far right only — Paul Ryan, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Jim Demint, etc. There will be no room at the table for a sensible conservative like Huntsman. The only exception might be Jeb Bush due to the party’s affection for familiar family names of failed former presidents, just as the Democrats would love to have another eligible Kennedy.
gabeagle
September 19th, 2012
1:40 am
If Peggy Noonan was a little more brave and a little less tactful she might admit Mitt Romney himself is incompetent and not just his campaign. He’s the one not fit to serve as President not his campaign.
Buckhead Boy
September 19th, 2012
5:48 am
And, the criticism of Noonan, Brooks, Kristol and other thoughtful conservatives was leveled before the full video became available and exposed some truly frightening remarks in addition to the dumb. For example, Mr. Romney tells of being contacted by a former Secretary of State who suggested that peace in the Middle East might be attainable after the election, which Romney didn’t explore because he’s concluded that peace will never be a possible.
Jack Bowen
September 19th, 2012
5:48 am
Frank, truthful comments from Ms. Noonan. And, in reality, Mitt Romney simply said what he really believes. He cannot see the hypocrisy of criticizing others who get government help, while he made tons of money by driving companies into bankruptcy so the government would assume liability for their pension programs, which then enabled Romney & friends to sell the companies, now free of that liability, for huge profits. Talk about welfare!
Steve
September 19th, 2012
6:46 am
Mitt is trying to be exactly what he is … a “businessman” who has to answer to no one. Trouble is, Washington D.C. is filled with politicians. Mitt has proven that he does not have a clue as to the needs of the middle class. The Republican party still doesn’t have a center, but only a right and far right. They will get trounced again. Afterwards we will be treated to their sad, bloated eyes wondering what happened. I will tell you now that the real world happened. This is how things are and you still have not figured it out.
DeborahinAthens
September 19th, 2012
6:53 am
I shudder to think it, but, I fear, by some sort of machinations similar to those that got Dubya elected, that Mitt will be our next President. The Republicans in the various states have made no bones about jiggering election laws to disfavor the Dems and favor the Repugs. There is one video of some politician in one of the swing states telling an audience, after passing restrictive voter registration laws, that, “We have deliver out state to the Republicans.”. He was very proud of himself.
WAW
September 19th, 2012
6:55 am
I paid my taxes, Thank You. I employed people and took care of them. My rule was “you take care of my customers and I will take care of you”. Thanks to the Great Recession at the point of my retiring, I have enough “loss” that will probably mean that I will die with unclaimed deductions. My problem with Mitt’s comments, while technically correct, is his lack of concern for millions in my situation. I am not a victim! I am a retired businessman who did his job, took care of his people (very well, I might add) and paid my taxes. To be “written off” by a Corporate Raider is too low. Since I am now a burden to the Republican party, I’ll take the Community Organizer. Maybe, just maybe, he will appreciate what I did for my country. Now Mitt needs to produce his Tax Returns just to prove he is a loyal American and not a whining victim like me.
Scrivener
September 19th, 2012
7:19 am
Color me shocked – shocked, I tell you, that Bookman and Galloway are searching the internet for anything negative they can find about Romney. And it has been such a great couple of weeks for Obama and all his great attention to our security and foreign affairs. But that’s not the narrative they want, of course.
Scrivener
September 19th, 2012
7:22 am
“My problem with Mitt’s comments, while technically correct, is his lack of concern for millions in my situation. I am not a victim! I am a retired businessman who did his job.”
Maybe your problem is really that you want to assume he’s talking about you, when he wasn’t. But you knew that all along and just chose to try to pretend otherwise to make a political point. As if you weren’t going to vote for Obama.
Edmund Ruffin
September 19th, 2012
7:22 am
Chuckey Cheez must have cheez for brains. There is nothing far right about Romney nor the Republican Party. If either/both were far right we might expect to see Constitutional government restored to the Republic, but restoration of Constitutional government is not in the cards. It is true that the Romney campaign is running itself in the style of McCain and doesn’t look good. That bunch of northeastern liberals would do well to go on the offensive so they can beat the Communist-in-Chief.
Tedd
September 19th, 2012
7:33 am
I tend to think the “big events” are so often just a gathering of bused in cheerleaders. The Republicans just don’t do that as well and it in no way addresses the issues at hand. Dumb way to measure success.
Cherokee
September 19th, 2012
7:43 am
Wrong Scrivener.
Romney was talking about retired folks, soldiers in war zones, elderly residents of nursing homes, poor families with kids, as well as retired businessmen, and something like 4000 millionaries who pay no income taxes.
Vote for him if you want, but his comments were dripping with disdain for people like you, and the majority of Americans.
resno2
September 19th, 2012
7:45 am
If people paid as much attention to what obama has said in the past about what he truly believes as they do about what Romney says it might be an even race.
ByteMe
September 19th, 2012
7:50 am
So when Romney loses, will Republicans decide the reason was:
(a) he wasn’t conservative enough.
or (b) he didn’t try to pivot hard enough to the center after the primaries.
If (a), look for Democrats to win in 2016 as well. If (b), then they can have their own “hope and change” after all.
B. Thenet
September 19th, 2012
7:56 am
Just remember than since that video from Obama in 1998, that Romney has changed from a pro-choice, big government, pro government healthcare governor from one of the most liberal states in the country to a “conservative, small government” candidate.
I don’t think the Romney campaign wants to go in the way back machine, but at this point their campaign is in such dire straits they have no choice.
BTW, how much you want to bet that the Romney campaign and Drudge(who are obviously working in conjunction with each other) were trying to save that clip until just before the debates….but had to run it out early to stem the bleeding.
Cherokee
September 19th, 2012
7:59 am
ByteMe, I agree. When Romney loses, it’ll be interesting to watch the civil war in the Repub party – between people like Edmund, who love to toss around the Communist epithet in spite of the fact that we’re having record corporate profits under Obama – and the Jeb Bush’s of the world, who understand that the party will die if they only try to appeal to angry old tea party white guys.
WAW
September 19th, 2012
8:11 am
Scrivener: I was doing the fence thing. Most of my friends will vote for Romney and were pushing hard on my thinking, until Jimmy’s grandson helped kick me (and probably a whole bunch of other folks too) in the butt. Daddy often repeated that Great Depression line “Don’t vote against yourself”. I’m off the fence and will vote for me. I am a person of worth, a loyal American, and very pissed off voter.
ScottC
September 19th, 2012
8:24 am
Probably the most disturbing thing about Romney’s latest gaff is that he said what he believes. He says he is a businessman (and he is) who is used to firing non-producers. He appaently thinks he can do the same to the citizens of this country. No matter your political affiliation you have to be very concerned that someone with this mindset could be our commander in chief. And, lastly, after running for President for over 6 years he still hasn’t figured out who he is or what the Presidency is.
jd
September 19th, 2012
8:24 am
My grandfather never forgot Hoover’s policies — he reminded me constant — Republicans say they are for the little guy — but they are all about big business and the very wealthy… The god they place in their platform, their beliefs, is the god of mammon
Doug
September 19th, 2012
8:26 am
Ironically, Obama is the great campaigner and horrible president. I think it’s possible that Romney is not a good campaigner but might be a good president??
resno2
September 19th, 2012
8:40 am
If Americans were actually in the mindset of firing non-producers obama wouldn’t even bother running. We need someone with actual real-world experience. Not someone who’s none political resume is less than half of a page. Romney actually built a business, and had to make difficult decisions along the way to make it successful (83% (?) success rate in turning around business he acquired). What had obama done prior to his selection into politics to prepare him for knowing what it’s like to be ‘one of us’? What business did he build? What real jobs has he held?
BTW…I’m a person of worth, a loyal American, and very pissed off voter too.
tiredofIT
September 19th, 2012
8:47 am
So Romney used government money to bailout Bain. So he is that incompetent and a moocher!
Aser706
September 19th, 2012
8:56 am
Bain used funds from the FDIC. Which is not a bailout and does not funded by taxpayers, but instead deposit insurance payments.
resno2
September 19th, 2012
8:56 am
tiredofIT: What?
obamaSinLaden
September 19th, 2012
8:58 am
you sniveling liberals really should open your eyes. think foryourself. don’t get caught in these traps. these traps are set on purpose to snare you! and you being blind and all, you step right into the middle of it. romney is some what right . the numbers are probably 37 % instead of 47%. btw, this countrys true liberty is just one more elitist supreme court justice away.
Mass Runner-Up
September 19th, 2012
9:00 am
Time to add a Republican to the list of presidential runner-ups from Massachusetts: Dukakis, Kerry, Romney
HRpufnstuf
September 19th, 2012
9:03 am
Peggy Noonan? I can’t stand her. She is sooo full of herself, like she is some sort of authority. *rolls eyes*
WAW
September 19th, 2012
9:07 am
resno2: I appreciate and respect our common values! However, our differences are apparent by your questions; “What had obama done prior to his selection into politics to prepare him for knowing what it’s like to be ‘one of us’? What business did he build? What real jobs has he held?” With the “victim” level of unemployment, rising poverty, etc., Obama has more experience at helping people rather than bottom lines. If you take care of people (as Mitt did when he was Bishop of his church) at their time of great need, my experience is that they will bust their butts to help you. That was true in American history, most all of the CCC boys volunteered within a week of Peril Harbor. I think people need to come first again.
WAW
September 19th, 2012
9:11 am
“I think people need to come first again.” Guess I just moved from liberal to FLAMING liberal.
retiredds
September 19th, 2012
9:15 am
How many times does the Mittsker have to clarify his statements? If he thought it through the first time he wouldn’t have to cover and backtrack. I am also interested in the audience to which he made his comments: are any of them victims? Might want to check their deductions? After all when you come down to it, strictly speaking (strict constructionist parallel) isn’t a tax deduction a form of government handout?
jconservative
September 19th, 2012
9:32 am
Actually Romney was talking about me.
I am a retired business person. I draw income from investments but have it arranged that no taxes are due on that income. I also draw Social Security, am on Medicare, have a Bush 43 Prescription Drug Plan and pay no income taxes. So I am part of that 47% who do not pay income taxes.
Romney: “There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it….These are people who pay no income tax. Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax. So our message of low taxes doesn’t connect.”
Obviously Romney does not know who his constituency is. Also, just as obvious, Romney does not know what he is talking about. This is what Peggy Noonan is talking about in her article.
I am afraid the Romney campaign is handing this election to Obama on a silver platter.
resno2
September 19th, 2012
9:36 am
obama has no experience with the bottom line, and community organizer experience at helping people. That and two years of being present as congressman is apparently all that qualifies someone to be President. Unfortunately, as our economy and unemployment rate can attest, that’s not enough.
resno2
September 19th, 2012
9:47 am
Romney doesn’t know what he’s talking about? And obama does?
Quick question: If Romney’s history (up bringing/education/etc) was identical to obama’s, do you think we’d be talking about it nor not?
jconservative
September 19th, 2012
9:51 am
“That and two years of being present as congressman is apparently all that qualifies someone to be President.”
Actually what qualifies someone to be president is winning the election. Obama won the election with 53% of the vote. 66 million of our fellow voters voted for him, more votes than any other president in history. That fact alone makes him qualified.
As of today I am afraid Mitt Romney is not qualified to be president – he is losing the election.
retiredds
September 19th, 2012
9:53 am
resno 2, old, tired, conservative talking points. Try something new.
Disabled War Veteran
September 19th, 2012
10:11 am
As a 100 percent disbled war veteran who pays no taxes on my disability compensation or on my tiny Social Security I guess I must fall into the category of the 47 percent Mr. Romney is talking about. If being unable to work because of being injured in the service of my country like millions of other war vetrans during one of our many wars makes me a freeloader I guess I’ll have to live with it. Mr. Romney…you may carry Georgia but not with my vote! You are far too callous for me and for I suspect a lot of other folks who are either service-connected disabled vetrans or on Social Security that they paid for over years of work. One thing I give President Obama credit for is that he has never turned his back on the military or us veterans like his predecessor did!
resno2
September 19th, 2012
10:18 am
retiredds: try answering the question.
Carrie
September 19th, 2012
10:27 am
I tried, I really DID try to hold my nose and vote for Romney, anyway. But I give up. I’m not voting for Obama, but I’m not voting for Romney either.
I’m staying home on Election Day.
Shar
September 19th, 2012
10:30 am
Romney’s problem is that he conflated two different groups. John King has an interesting article detailing this on CNN’s website this morning, but the bottom line is that Romney’s first statement – that the president has strong support among about 47% of the voting population. He was also close to correct in saying that about 45% of Americans do not pay taxes, at least if he was only referencing federal income tax – everyone pays sales taxes and most of that 45% pay property, state, municipal and other taxes as well.
Romney’s blazing mistake is in conflating those two, separate groups. The greatest number of people not paying federal income taxes are the elderly on Social Security, many of whom vote Republican, or working middle class people who take tax credits for things like child care. As King notes, “In 2008, Obama won 95% of the African-American vote, two-thirds of Latinos, 64% of other minority voters, and 52% of white women who are college graduates.”
The elderly and lower middle class workers. Blacks, Latinos and college-educated women. These are two groups that Romney, carelessly and astoundingly insensitively, threw together in a big garbage can and decided are not worthy of his consideration because :
“These are people who pay no income tax.”
“I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”
Meanwhile, of course, he used every deduction and loophole he could, both individually and corporately, to augment the large fortune left to him by his father. And he was speaking to a group of people who did precisely the same thing.
I’m really not sure how the Romney campaign, whatever their level of competence, fixes this. The remark showed such ignorance, such contempt and so clear an intention of disregarding those groups during both his campaign and his presidency that it is hard to imagine voters such as WAW, the independents who decide elections, to trust in Romney.
resno2
September 19th, 2012
10:31 am
jconservative: My apologies, my statement was not specific enough. Let me see if I can help. Being a community organizer, and and two years of being present as congressman is apparently all that some voters feel qualifies someone to be President.” Unfortunately in the ‘real world’ those qualifications barely make someone competent to run a lemonade stand.
Scrivener
September 19th, 2012
10:32 am
If you people want to intentionally try to mis-define the 47 percent, knock yourselves out – even though jconservative gave us the quote. The people he’s talking about precedes the part about WHO will never vote for him. It does NOT say retired folks, military personnel or SS recipients. It DOES list people who are dependent on government “for food, housing and you-name-it.” And he a hundred percent right. Those on social programs such as SSDI, welfare, food stamps and Section 8 will never vote for him.
honested
September 19th, 2012
10:38 am
peggy noonan, the older version of lynn cheney.
Representative of absolutely nothing, but at least close to correct on this occasion.
Scrivener
September 19th, 2012
10:53 am
WAW, you mean you’re letting your grandson set you straight on politics? Don’t you have a lifetime of world experience that he doesn’t have and has yet to learn? That could be your problem right there. Having too many takers and not enough makers will doom our country if this trend continues.
sallyjohanna
September 19th, 2012
10:54 am
I have a brother-in-law who wants the Obama promise of student loan aid despite his small phone system rep business being in the tank due of Obama policy.
My brother who owns a PVC supply business that is stuggling will vote Obama because his wife is a staunch Progressive. Their oldest son votes for Obama even though his first job is with an investment planning company.
Peggy your nose is too high in the air, down here in the trenches, I instantly understood what Romney was saying. Agree, Romney needs to tighten up the way he delivers it.
The Socialist Progressives in my family are willing to chuck the Constitution for Socialism. Mitt has to win, stop being in love with your own opinion and help him! ABO
Retired Soldier
September 19th, 2012
11:09 am
Well stated Sally
Lifelong Repub
September 19th, 2012
11:14 am
Mitt is toast. I’m holding out for 2016.
resno2
September 19th, 2012
11:30 am
There may not be much left in 2016.
Retired Soldier
September 19th, 2012
11:35 am
Mitt will win, Obama will be a one termer and we will rejoice.
Village Idiot
September 19th, 2012
11:40 am
Simple question: how does anyone expect to get elected after telling 47% of the population that he doesn’t want their votes?
Not so simple a question: how does a spoiled billionaire who has never had to worry about anything in his life have the gall to look down his nose at people who were not born into wealth and priveledge?
resno2
September 19th, 2012
11:46 am
Village Idiot: You know that Romney gave his inheritance to charity… right? You also know that he started Bain on his own… right? You also know that when he mentioned 47% he was talking about those that weren’t going to vote for him anyway, and that he wasn’t going to worry about changing their minds… right? And I bet you still think that the 13% he’s pays in federal taxes is computed the same way as the amount you pay… right?
Retired Soldier
September 19th, 2012
11:48 am
VI-
Some names are apporpiate, you know what Romney was saying, that the 47% on the take from the federal govt won’t vote for him, he did not say he didn’t want them to vote for him.
Second- Yes he is well to do, is that wrong? Isn’t that what the great American dream is all about. BTW, do you know what Romney did with the wealth he inherited? Gave it away.
Obama has never had a real private job, now which is worse?
DJ Sniper
September 19th, 2012
11:56 am
Typical. Republican says something that is completely retarded, and when the s**t hits the fan, they pull out the way back machine to pull up an Obama comment from 14 years ago. For the record, I didn’t see the issue when people were talking about some of the mean things that Romney did when he was a teenager. I can’t think of anybody who didn’t do stupid stuff when they were in high school.
resno2
September 19th, 2012
12:05 pm
DJ Sniper: Do you think for a minute that the obama camp would turn down the opportunity to use a discovered recording of Romney from 14 years ago with something on it that they could use to their advantage? Please! They went back more than 30 years to say he was a bully in high school.
DJ Sniper
September 19th, 2012
12:10 pm
Resno, I don’t remember who it was who first brought up that info about him from high school. As I said, it was irrevelant to me.
Lifelong Repub
September 19th, 2012
12:10 pm
If there isn’t anything left in 2016, then we repubs need to get it together and reinvest ourselves. It’s our own fault that we’ve let Mitt be our leader. If you are honest with yourself, you’ll acknowledge THAT mistake is ours and no one else’s.
It’s OK. We’ll survive. Just not how we look right now. And that is a GOOD thing.
DJ Sniper
September 19th, 2012
12:15 pm
If the Repubs want to get it together, they should start by cleaning out the crazy. The inmates have truly taken over the asylum.
Carrie
September 19th, 2012
12:16 pm
Face it, Mitt was a mistake. We’ll survive to fight another day. But Mitt is a disaster. Even if he could be electable, I wouldn’t feel confident about what he’d do. I’d be holding my breath. Sometimes it’s better to lose now so we can win in big ways later.
DJ Sniper
September 19th, 2012
12:20 pm
When you look at the list of candidates that ran this year, none of them were a good choice: Romney, Perry, Bachmann, Gingrich, Paul, Cain, etc. The only one who seemed pretty decent was Jon Hunstman, but he refused to embrace the crazy, so that killed his chances.
Retired Soldier
September 19th, 2012
12:20 pm
Carrie-
It is better to lose to Obama than win with Romney? That’s nuts, just plain nuts.
Retired Soldier
September 19th, 2012
12:21 pm
DJ-
All were a better choice than Obama.
resno2
September 19th, 2012
12:26 pm
DJ: cleaning out the crazy inmates, like Pelosi, Reid, Waxman, Boxer, Waters and the Dems newly appointed champion for women’s reproductive rights Fluke?
DJ Sniper
September 19th, 2012
12:27 pm
Retired Soldier, it’s a shame that Obama is trying to make this country a decent place, yet is the victim of so many lies and so much BS from the right. Ever since he took office, the right has run out a laundry list of lies against him:
He wasn’t born in the US
He’s a Muslim
He’s a socialist, facist, Marxist Nazi from Kenya
He’s spent more than any other president
He’s raised taxes more than any other president
He wants to take away your guns and get rid of the 2nd Amendment
The list just goes on and on. Is he perfect? No. Do I agree with every decision he’s made? Of course not. Still, when you put him against any of the nutjobs that ran this year, he was the best choice. I just don’t see how anybody could be comfortable with any of those Repub choices in the White House.
resno2
September 19th, 2012
12:28 pm
Carrie: you can hold your breath is Romney is elected… I’ll hold on to my wallet if far worse happens.
DJ Sniper
September 19th, 2012
12:30 pm
Sorry Resno, but you can’t even begin to compare that list with the names I posted. Those people you listed definitely have their flaws, but their level of bats**t insane doesn’t even come close to what’s in the GOP today. They want to take this country back all right……back to the 19th century.
Retired Soldier
September 19th, 2012
12:35 pm
DJ-
1. Born in the U.S. not my issue
2. Muslim- Not my issue, his muslim policy is though
3. Socialist- Yep he has that tendency, look at his policies
4. Absolutely true, if a four year period
5. Republicans have stopped him from raising taxes
6. If he had the votes, you bet he would restict the 2nd amendment
Nice try DJ
resno2
September 19th, 2012
12:38 pm
Well we weren’t $16 Trillion in debt back in the 19th century… but then again we were only $10 trillion in debt when he took office in 2008.
DJ Sniper
September 19th, 2012
12:43 pm
I’m not an expert economist, but I’ll go so far to say that the increase in debt is not Obama’s sole doing. There are plenty of people who love to blame Obama for a lot of things, such as high gas prices. These people don’t understand that the president, no matter who he/she is, has no control whatsoever over gas prices. I even saw someone the other day blame Obama for rising food costs. I guess they missed the memo about this thing called a drought that’s affecting food prices all over.
honested
September 19th, 2012
12:48 pm
retired,
Item 5, yest republican obstructionism has certainly prolonged the Bush Depression and exacerbated the deficit.
When will republicans come to grips with the fact they have to pay the bills they approve?
Oh yeah I forgot, the ‘Iraqi War of Choice will pay for itself’. What is the daily debt carry charge on that 4 trillion dollar fiasco?
Retired Soldier
September 19th, 2012
1:01 pm
Honestead-
First, I am nor have I been a big fan of Bush the younger and yes I agree a President needs to pay as he goes. I wish Obama would learn that lesson.
Your obstructionism is my principled stand. And speaking of Iraq, why did Obama adopt the Bush plan of withdrawal if it was so bad? Why didn’t he pull the troops out of Iraq as soon as he was in office? Don’t say he couldn’t, that is exactly what I would do in Afghanistan if I could tomorrow.
A supporter of Obama does not have the moral highground to lecture on dent and deficits.
Retired Soldier
September 19th, 2012
1:04 pm
DJ-
Again you are wrong. Remember Truman? The buck stops at the president’s desk. Has Obama submitted a balanced budget to Congress? Has Obama vetoed a spending bill? Has Obama offered to cut spending? Come on now, we are all smarter than this.
Retired Soldier
September 19th, 2012
1:06 pm
honestead-
That was supposed to be debt and deficits.
Carrie
September 19th, 2012
1:16 pm
Retired Soldier–
Yes, I would rather endure another 4 years of Obama than risk 4 years of wild card Romney. You don’t know Romney. No one does. He is such a loose cannon. I don’t even know what he stands for! Better the devil you know than the one you don’t. I’d rather hold out for a better GOP tomorroe and a better future.
resno2
September 19th, 2012
1:21 pm
You don’t know Romney, but do know obama, and would still vote for him?
Retired Soldier
September 19th, 2012
1:24 pm
Carrie-
Thank goodness there aren’t many republicans like you. It is truly a shocking viewpoint. But isn’t that one of the many reasons America is a great country.
DJ Sniper
September 19th, 2012
1:25 pm
RetiredSolider, the fact that you believe that nonsense about Obama and the 2nd Amendment shows me where your head is at. Obama has said nothing about getting rid of people’s guns, and he definitely hasn’t even thought about repealing the 2nd Amendment. This is nothing but a bunch of tomfoolery that the right started spreading the moment he won the election.
As for spending, there’s quite a bit of info that shows that Obama has spent less than quite a few of our previous presidents.
What Muslim policies? Oh, I forgot: anybody who has a funny sounding name and doesn’t try to bomb the living hell out of Muslim countries must have Muslim tendencies.
As far as the socialist claim, there are plenty of socialists who will gladly tell you that Obama is not one of them.
Lastly, let’s not forget about the Republican obstructionism that’s been going on. The GOP is determined on making Obama a 1 term president, and they don’t care if they take the rest of the country on the express elevator to hell in order to accomplish that.
Retired Soldier
September 19th, 2012
1:32 pm
DJ-
Didn’t say anything about repeal of the 2nd.
Please, his budgets are higher than any previous budgets, fact.
I believe Yemen, afghanistan, Iraq and Libya are muslim countries, Obama has bombed all four.
Name one socialist that backs your claim, cite the source please.
And the democrats where all about making Bush successful. Please.
ANGRY AS HELL
September 19th, 2012
1:33 pm
DJ Sniper’s got it right. The best thing to happen to Obama’s campaign was the parade of Republican whackos who ran during the primary. The Grand Old Party ain’t so grand when the best it can produce as presidential material is a guy who obviously doesn’t know the first about running a national campaign, keeping both of his feet out of his mouth or who the 47% are. The GOP worried more about “connecting” with “Birthers” and every other kind of right-wing nutjobs Tea Party wonks. The GOP needs to take a close and honest look at itself and push all these radical crazies out of its ranks. And the first one that needs to go ….Paul Ryan, then Rick Santorum, then Michelle Bachmann, then………
Retired Soldier
September 19th, 2012
1:33 pm
And I forgot about Pakistan, my bad.
Retired Soldier
September 19th, 2012
1:36 pm
Angry-
You are correct, you have a wonderful candidate, he is beloved in all 57 states. I rest my case.
Let’s see Angry, you obviously dislike republicans and we are supposed to take your advice? Remember the 2010 election, we did just fine thank you.
resno2
September 19th, 2012
1:48 pm
Angry: It’s nice to know that the only think that makes a great leader and a president is their ability to run a successful election campaign. If that were true, shouldn’t Alexrod then be president?
resno2
September 19th, 2012
1:50 pm
Retired Soldier: I think that instead of $2 billion we should give Pakistan enough flags to burn so that they’d eventually run out of protesters from inhaling the fumes.
Retired Soldier
September 19th, 2012
2:06 pm
Sounds like a plan to me resno2. Cheaper and supports American flag makers.
retiredds
September 19th, 2012
2:56 pm
resno2: I don’t waste my time answering the conservative spin lines.
Shar
September 19th, 2012
4:14 pm
From the exchange above I have to think that Peggy Noonan is correct. Clearly, those who have made up their minds are hardened in their beliefs, and if their preferred candidate chose to say that he likes to slit open babies for relaxation they would leap to the ramparts and try to shout down any “negative spin” the “wrong side” might put on such a statement.
The most interesting responses, and clearly the ones Ms. Noonan was referring to, come from posters such as Carrie, WAW, and the other kinda-sorta undecided/independents. Even in this most red of states, Romney’s campaign has failed to convince them that he is worth supporting. Either they have decided to vote for Obama or they have decided to not participate in the election.
The purpose of a campaign is to motivate the faithful, convince the undecided and cast doubt on the alternative. The Romney campaign has failed in all three categories, and time is running out.
resno2
September 19th, 2012
5:55 pm
retiredds: What’s the spin line? All I did was ask a question.
Laserbeam
September 19th, 2012
7:53 pm
Only paid earn income tax on $374,327 (not very much) not concerned about the poor thay have a safety net, 47% . “My job is not to worry about those people,” Mitt Romney said. “I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.” Thinks middle income is $200-250000 – talk about out of touch – his loose lips will sink ships!
S
September 19th, 2012
9:05 pm
Willard Mitt Romney’s staff can’t fix what is irreparable. Romney has a problem, he doesn’t have a lick of common sense, not a lick! He is so above it all he just does not understand how this country runs, he just doesn’t get it, and never will. While his not understanding how this country works is disturbing, his clueless Foreign knowledge is just down right frighting. I hope the voters out there that are undecided, will take a pause and think about what they are about to do if voting for this Romney person.
Georgia Voter
September 19th, 2012
9:40 pm
Every time Mitt opens his mouth, he sounds less presidential than the time before. It’s really kind of sad.