Your morning jolt: David Koch favors gay marriage, says tax increases may be necessary

TAMPA – As the Republican presidential ticket of Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan jetted away, this bombshell was making the rounds, courtesy of Politico.com:

Billionaire industrialist David Koch, who is helping steer millions of dollars to elect Mitt Romney and congressional Republicans, on Thursday [said] he disagrees with the GOP’s stance on gay marriage and believes the U.S. needs to consider raising taxes to balance the budget….

Koch said he thinks the U.S. military should withdraw from the Middle East and said the government should consider defense spending cuts, as well as possible tax increases to get its fiscal house in order — a stance anathema to many in the Republican Party.

“I think it’s essential to be able to achieve spending reductions and maybe it’s going to require some tax increases,” he said. “We got to come close to balancing the budget; otherwise, we’re in a terrible deep problem.”

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Whether you loved it or hated its message, cherish the fact of this Republican National Convention that just ended, because it may be the last of its kind that you see. The major TV broadcast networks, despite their waning power, have successfully dictated a new length to the major political parties – they’ll serve as unpaid venues for Democratic and Republican commercials for three days, and no longer.

And only one hour each day. It was the latter time restriction that got Republicans into trouble last night. Rather than lean on some very effective, very emotional testimony of Mitt Romney’s personal friends, the campaign leaned on Clint Eastwood, the “mystery guest” touted through the week by the campaign, to quickly create a large audience at the front of that hour – with the hope that viewers would hang on to see the presidential candidate accept his nomination.

In that sense, however bizarre Eastwood’s act was, the strategy may have succeeded.

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Where GOP vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan delivered angry attacks a night earlier, Mitt Romney on Thursday had the air of a father demanding the car keys from a teenaged Barack Obama who had broken curfew:

I wish President Obama had succeeded because I want America to succeed. But his promises gave way to disappointment and division.

And if you didn’t choke up at the story of George Romney and the daily rose he gave his wife, you’re not human. But this may have been Romney’s most effective line for wooing independents:

You know there’s something wrong with the kind of job he’s done as president when the best feeling you had was the day you voted for him.

According to my AJC colleague Daniel Malloy, Georgia delegates leaving the Tampa Bay Times Forum for the last time liked the approach:

“I think it really energized the base,” said Joseph Gullett, chairman of the Paulding County Republican Party. “Hopefully it energized people who weren’t Romney supporters before. It shows his direction about the issues.”

Perhaps the most striking aspects of the speech were personal ones, when Romney talked about raising his children and choked up when discussing his late parents.

Insurance Commissioner Ralph Hudgens said the address showed “the real part of Romney that has not been displayed — the man that loves others that’s willing to give himself.”

Hudgens added: “I couldn’t have said what he said without choking up. It made me realize how real he is.”

Bill Knowles, of Macon, said that as compared with the 2008 Republican Convention, this event was crisp and focused on the economy. Yet he was impressed that Romney covered a wide range – both policy-wise and personally.

“There was some humor; there was emotion; it was a well-rounded speech,” Knowles said. “Romney is not the bombastic Chris Christie type. He’s more intellectual. He’s a passionate speaker, and that’s what came through.”

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Here at the Tampa Bay Grand Hyatt, our difficult neighbor has just left.

Reporters covering the Georgia delegation, which is housed here, have been relegated to a cluster of cabanas that are on the Hyatt property, but are about a quarter-mile away from the huge hotel.

It would be rude to suppose that the distance was meant to allow Georgia Republicans to party without fear of observation.

But there was an advantage. The cabanas are apparently where the hotel prefers to house guests with pets, or guests who smoke. For the past five days, we have entertained U.S. House Speaker John Boehner as a neighbor. He didn’t have a dog.

The first tip-off was the Mini Cooper with the “Boehner for Speaker” bumper sticker. The second was the full-throated U.S. Secret Service protection.

But this must be said: There was no loud music, no empties left on the lawn. And except for the fact that, while fetching ice, one was required to keep hands in sight at all times, the neighborhood was a very safe place to stroll – any hour, day or night.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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137 comments Add your comment

honested

August 31st, 2012
11:12 am

Interesting.
While the repugnican party may not be able to face reality, it seems their primary funding source may have finally come to accept the truth.
I guess there is no free lunch, especially when the koch brothers stop paying for it!

ByteMe

August 31st, 2012
11:14 am

The “Eastwood strategy” failed. People are talking about the old guy talking to the chair more than they’re talking about Romney this morning. It’s not good for the candidate to get upstaged like that at his big coming out party.

Road Scholar

August 31st, 2012
11:26 am

Mister Romney, if you have a plan to create jobs, why haven’t YOU already defined it, or given it to Mr Boehmer? You said you love this country; what is your DETAILED plan?

Shine

August 31st, 2012
11:36 am

Too bad Koch didnt come to this revelation and push it BEFORE the GOP kooks caused a credit downgrade with their our way or the highway kookyness.

GaBlue

August 31st, 2012
11:41 am

honested,

This statement from Mr. Koch is not one I am willing to take at face value just yet. People who have done what he’s done don’t just release statements like that without a reason, and that reason is not likely to be that he wants to share his thoughts on homosexuality with the American people.

As for raising taxes, of course, many billionaires believe that working suckers don’t pay enough taxes. That’s why they spend so much money on advertising for such bogus ideas as: “Job creators, if allowed to keep more of our unearned income, will create more jobs for you working schmucks, so back off us already!”

Reality

August 31st, 2012
11:41 am

A Billionaire for republicans – color me shocked. It doesn’t matter that he may disagree with the republican platform….. as long as they protect his billions because that is all that matters.

Come on you middle class Georgians – GET A CLUE!!!!!!

ByteMe

August 31st, 2012
11:44 am

You know there’s something wrong with the kind of job he’s done as president when the best feeling you had was the day you voted for him.

And yet he’s wrong.

I had a great feeling when bin Laden’s death was announced. I had a great feeling when ACA was passed and I realized that my wife would finally be able to get health care coverage without being employed by a lousy employer.

I had a great feeling when GM turned a profit the first time after getting bailed out.

I had a great feeling when we exited Iraq and trounced Quaddafi.

Romney is expecting us to have short-term memories. We can’t remember what yesterday was like, so it must be whatever he tells us it was like. That’ll work on The Goobers, but women, minorities, and college kids are going to remember what the Republicans have stood for the past 4 years… and they are going to not pick Romney.

Tall

August 31st, 2012
11:45 am

I disagree with Mr. Koch. There is no guarantee our elected officials – Republican or Democrat – will be responsible with our tax dollars. Spending needs to be cut. Sooner or later, one of them will have to deliver that cold hard truth. If they don’t, the bond market will. The government – city, state and federal take enough of our tax dollars.

Reality

August 31st, 2012
11:45 am

If Paul Ryan was sincere in his statement…

“I wish President Obama had succeeded because I want America to succeed. But his promises gave way to disappointment and division.”

Then why didn’t he really push for the republicans in Congress to vote for President Obama’s plans and proposals? But, no. Instead they opposed all legislation just to oppose the President which slowed the economic recovery.

Tall

August 31st, 2012
11:48 am

Byte me:

You’re going to lose the ACA when the Federal government defaults on the bond payments. Tax increases on the upper income earners won’t make up for it. Enjoy it while you can. By the way, how is life in Libya these days?

honested

August 31st, 2012
12:16 pm

tall,

Lets make a deal.
We’ll worry about the debt that was incurred to prevent collapse of the American Economy AFTER we raise taxes enough to pay off the entire debt of the Afghan Fiasco and the Iraqi War of Choice.
That way, we at least won’t have to pay interest on those two enormous wastes of blood and treasure.

honested

August 31st, 2012
12:18 pm

Reality,

The only time paul ryan is sincere is when he is thanking contributors for their cash!

ByteMe

August 31st, 2012
12:25 pm

You’re going to lose the ACA when the Federal government defaults on the bond payments

Written like someone who doesn’t understand that without ACA, the Federal government was scheduled to spend MORE uncollected revenues on health care than after ACA was passed.

I’m sure I have a fainting couch around here for you, though.

cc

August 31st, 2012
12:54 pm

honested @ 12:16 pm:

On whom should we raise income taxes?

The top 1% (you know, that ‘hated bunch’) pay 36.73% of federal taxes

The top 5% pay 58.66% of federal income taxes

The top 10% pay 70.47% of federal income taxes

The top 25% pay 87.30% of federal income taxes

The top 50% pay 97.75% of federal income taxes

The bottom 50% pay 2.25% of federal income taxes

Source: http://ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html

Common Sense

August 31st, 2012
1:15 pm

“Mister Romney, if you have a plan to create jobs, why haven’t YOU already defined it, or given it to Mr Boehmer? You said you love this country; what is your DETAILED plan?”

Why have you not demanded the same thing from the guy that has been POTUS for 3 1/2 years?

yuzeyurbrane

August 31st, 2012
1:15 pm

It was Romney’s best speech and should give him a bump in the polls, even though I note it followed almost verbatim the leaked text Jim published yesterday. So, even though it was delivered very smoothly, it was hardly spontaneous. The debates will be interesting. Romney usually gave a polished debate performance in Republican primaries but the question is how good will he be on questions he has not been prepped for?

zeke

August 31st, 2012
1:22 pm

cc, everyone needs to give

the well to do, tax hikes

middle americans less tax hikes, but some program cuts

the lower classes benefit cuts and program cuts

corporate america tax cuts for job creation that are of cost/benefit

states have done a lot of belt tightening…..go after federal budget with army of cost accountants and efficiency experts starting with dod

cc

August 31st, 2012
1:32 pm

zeke:

“the well to do, tax hikes
middle americans less tax hikes, but some program cuts”

If we’re going to tax ‘the well to do’ more than ‘middle americans’, how much should we raise their taxes? The top 10% already pay 70.47% of all federal income taxes!

Maybe we should just quit screwing around; why not just confiscate all their wealth?

Finally

August 31st, 2012
1:39 pm

Someone said what needed to be said, tax increases coupled with deep spending cuts. Funny, took a billionaire businessman to say it. Haven’t heard squat in this area from any politicians, who don’t make the tough decisions (other than to spend more than we take in minute after minute after minute)

zeke

August 31st, 2012
1:40 pm

cc, the bush/obama tax cuts were unfunded so at minimum those should be rescinded on top earners…the million dollar club, careful not to hurt small business owners.

cc, trickle down is bs and you know it

ByteMe

August 31st, 2012
1:40 pm

The top 10% already pay 70.47% of all federal income taxes!

And the top 400 families in the country control over half the wealth. 400 families vs. 310 million of everyone else.

We got rid of oligarchy before, we need to do it again. For America.

honested

August 31st, 2012
1:43 pm

cc,

Rather than play wrong wing games with you on taxation (I really don’t care who pays what percentage or how they are able to skate under paying more), let’s return to the tables as they were in 1999, you know, back when the ECONOMY WORKED!

jconservative

August 31st, 2012
1:48 pm

Koch has a point. How are we going to stop deficit spending and pay off the $16 Trillion National Debt?

I have seen all kinds of plans but none that address both issues.

The Republicans want to stop the deficits but never mention paying off the debt. And when talking about the deficits they take one third of the spending, defense, off of the table.

The Democrats talk about reducing deficit spending but take two thirds of the problem off the table. And, like the Republicans, never talk about paying off the debt.

For the last 31 years we have reduced government revenue and increased government spending every year. Koch’s point is that maybe we need to increase government revenue and decrease government spending, the opposite of what we have been doing for 31 years.

Auntie Christ

August 31st, 2012
1:55 pm

david koch wants to cut defense spending, raise taxes,get our military out of the Mideast, and get our noses out of folks’ bedrooms. If I or any liberals say that, pox news ‘pundits’ and their blogging brethren call us socialist, tax and spend, Amerka hating, surrender monkeys. Its strange how the repubs can be applauded for a stance that libs are reviled for. Go figure.

Steve

August 31st, 2012
2:10 pm

Any reasonable economist will tell you that you don’t try austerity measures during an economic downturn (ask the folks in Europe how well that worked out for them). We need to go back to the Clinton era tax rates, stimulate the economy, and when the the economy is back to where it was before the devastation caused by 8 years of Bush at the helm, THEN, and only THEN, we need to start streamlining spending. That includes the military, too, where we outspend every other nation 10 to 1.
Common sense, people. But the GOP is not offering this solution, and Congress thwarts the Democrats at every turn when we try to fix this mess.

Maggies Daughter Loves Tech

August 31st, 2012
2:11 pm

The Koch brothers are Libertarians. Not that the Left knows the difference. Learn the difference progressives. They are more like you than you think. Legal drugs, etc. Gay marriage, adoption, gambling. Then mark where these GOP folks are headed nationally and in Dixie. They say money doesn’t buy influence. Where is Sadie Fields when you need her?

GaBlue

August 31st, 2012
2:12 pm

Auntie C,

I wish it were strange, but frankly, it’s not unusual at all. Cap & trade, and health care reform were Republican ideas until Dems bought in. “About… face! Pivot! Attack!”

cc

August 31st, 2012
2:14 pm

ByteMe @ 1:40 pm:
The figures I posted are for income earners; wealth and earned income aren’t necessarily the same thing.

jconservative @ 1:48 pm:
I can live with an income tax increase, but not with one that is unequally applied. If it takes raising the income taxes by 10% (or whatever figure), then apply that equally across the board. Do NOT increase it by 20% on one group, 16% on another and 10% on yet another group. Additionally, programs have to be cut, including welfare. I still don’t understand how a cell phone became an entitlement!

Going Right

August 31st, 2012
2:31 pm

ByteMe @ 11.14a; you should be so lucky to be able to even hold Clint Eastwood’s jock strap, Sport.

Road Scholar @ 11.26a; What? Romney let the idea out of the bag so that Obama can grab and run with it? Besides, the Anointed One has created so many jobs in his 4 years; Romney would be hard pressed to beat the number. Where did anyone get the idea that over 23 million people are jobless? The AO will solve that in his next 4 years…won’t he? I mean…

Shine@ 11.36a: Too bad the people of America don’t really understand that the “Progressives” (a derisive term for Socialist Democrats) are the only ones who have never been, are not now and will never be obstructionists. Perfect creatures are incapable of immature ideas such as that.

GaBlue @ 11.41; Yes, again you head is up you’re a$$. I assume that your last paragraph does indeed only call out Republicans inasmuch as there are no rich, white, Socialist Democrats who have money hidden offshore and only wish to give what that have to the Anointed One’s whims.

Reality @ 11.41; No comment, you are beyond help. Get medical help…now.

ByteMe (again); Of course, Romney is wrong. I’m absolutely shocked that you would even write otherwise – even going so far as to paraphrase his speech. After all, he is a Republican, isn’t he?

Reality @ 11.45a; Foolish boy (or girl)! Poor Republicans that were elected to the house don’t realize that they may NOT POSSESS ideas or thoughts that are contrary to those of the “Perverted”…OOS! I meant “Progressives!” They should just become Socialists, run as socialists and have a House and Senate 100% Leftist, Socialist Dimocratic. What in God’s good name would you and the other whiners on this blog write about then? Oh, yeah, “Happy Days Are Here Again,”…ugh, I’m barfing on the way to the bathroom!

Zekie @ 1.22p; I still submit that I don’t think you’re getting the medical care you should have…but, not to worry, ObamaScare will take care of you and, darn it, I will be helpiing to pay for it. Enjoy, dumba$$.

ByteMe @ 1.43p; “We got rid of oligarchy before, we need to do it again. For America. Well, finally! I agree. It will – God willing _ happen November 6th.

(dis)honested @ 1.43p World Almanac indicates that the US Senate was controlled by the Republicans 55 to 45; the House by (105th.) 228R to 206D; (106th.) by 223R to 211D. For one rare time I agree with you; we did much better with a Republican House working with a Democrat president who would take charge and lead, not play golf.

Anti-Christ: Where you been, bro? Go ahead and say it. You’ve got the media on your side and they’ll protect you.

shav

August 31st, 2012
2:34 pm

when taxes rates are lowered and bases broadened, cuaffers to the treasury fill up with cash.
FDR, JFK, Reagan, Bush 43. Fact check it.

Corporations just raise prices to cover tax hikes, so it only hurts the consumer.

RIGHTISWRONG_AGAIN!

August 31st, 2012
2:35 pm

Elephants don’t won’t to pay their FAIR SHARE of TAXES (% wise, if you make more you pay more, duh!).
They don’t won’t women to be able to control their own bodies.
They think that THEY ARE THE LAST IMMIGRANTS to be able to come to Ameirca.
They are a party that doesn’t care about folk who are less fortunate on a large scale. The government is always the problem, yet if their house is on fire they would be pissed if the fire truck did not come. Yet if we were invaded by Iran, they would be pissed if the Army did not protect them.
They are a party that lies to get what they want! Are they too stupid to know that the POTUS meant that the Government planned the roads, bridges, and infrastructure that we use everyday. I heard the same speech, come on.
They are a party that discriminates against gays, minorities, and women.
They are the party of I got mine, you get yours. My family has money, yours does not, looks like you will be poor the rest of your life with no chance to succeed. Should have picked your parents so you would have someone to borrow money from! LOL

FINALLY, They are the party of ” Just Trust Us”, even though they won’t tell you how they are going to create 12M jobs all while deregulating, taking away access to affordable healthcare, raising taxes on the Middle Class, lowering taxes on the rich (so that they can create jobs like they have been doing, LOL) and keeping the loopholes in place.

Oh, and I you don’t need to know what’s in my taxes! TRUST ME… I would trust Mitt Romney with my dog, he would put him on the roof of his car…… He’s awful and selfish, so is the GOP.

zeke

August 31st, 2012
2:37 pm

going right, like to call names you piece of ship

be glad to straighten your arse out anytime anywhere, pantywaiste

neutral site and not at one of your dumb arse rallies….

come on punk, make my day

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Carol

August 31st, 2012
2:54 pm

I guess now that the Repubs have nominated Romney, Koch felt it was ok to say what he wanted. Because it really doesn’t matter. They are going to take his money anyway, and he is going to give it to them.

The Koch brothers realize that it doesn’t matter much what side of the political spectrum you are on, as long as you’re on their side for the things they want. Seems like the old saying holds true, money talks, BS walks. They have the money and are willing to give it to whomever will dance to their song.

cc

August 31st, 2012
2:55 pm

Aggressively pursuing an energy-independent America will create so many jobs that one would have to hide to keep a job from finding you! (Able-bodied welfare recipients: take note of this!) An energy-independent America will also stop the flow of wealth from this nation to the OPEC nations. Eliminating the use of food (corn) as a supplement for fuel should aid our food supply lessening the need for imported foods as well as encouraging farmers to grow food. All of this will improve our balance of trade and can be accomplished without expending government funds.

Steve

August 31st, 2012
2:56 pm

Shav, we borrowed on Raygun and went into huge deficits. Raising taxes produces revenue which creates JOBS, which in turn provides more revenue for the big businesses. It’s something that has worked in the past and is the only way we are going to get out of debt (including cutting spending).

zeke

August 31st, 2012
2:58 pm

i guess i should apologize to the blog community, ….i just get tired of name calling….poking fun is one thing though that can get out of hand. sorry, i think i will take a break for awhile as football season around the corner.

cc

August 31st, 2012
3:02 pm

zeke:

“going right, like to call names you piece of ship
be glad to straighten your arse out anytime anywhere, pantywaiste
neutral site and not at one of your dumb arse rallies….
come on punk, make my day”

Careful, zeke! This is going a bit far! It also might be wise to know your adversary before issuing a challenge!

Otherwise, it might be “Bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!”

cc

August 31st, 2012
3:03 pm

zeke:

Go Georgia Tech!

Ghost of Eisenhower

August 31st, 2012
3:11 pm

What? Republicans want out of wars they started, raise taxes to pay for wars they started and balance the budget, let loving people mind their own marital business – what kind of bizarro world is this?

Willie

August 31st, 2012
3:23 pm

Nothing will ever be a blizzard as “from this moment the oceans will recede”. That is the very definition of bizarre. Out of place self promoting inappropriate, odd, over the top, arrogant, ignorant. Not that Galloway could ever muster such truthfulness.

Don Abernethy

August 31st, 2012
3:24 pm

He has a lot of money and very little brains. He needs to be a Democrat.

Linda

August 31st, 2012
3:39 pm

Enter your comments here

Right-O

August 31st, 2012
3:46 pm

Time to bring out the “Zombies” again…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAIpI8IxgFs

Linda

August 31st, 2012
3:54 pm

I haven’t been on a blog in months. I can’t believe that there are still any Obama supporters left.

Why can’t more people see that these “progressives” are out to destroy America?

Going Right

August 31st, 2012
3:54 pm

cc: I was going to answer Zekie’s idiocy but you pretty well characterized the situation. Zekie talks a great game but 26 years of Special Forces / USMC didn’t exactly make me a wuss. I make no claims about what I can/will do as I learned a lesson early on at Camp Pendleton: If you look for and invite trouble you are sure to find or get it! But, he said he needed to suit for is little league game so we shall let him pass for now.

Going Right

August 31st, 2012
3:58 pm

Linda:You haven’t missed any real honest dialog as there are but a few of us on the right who are here to help neuter the Progressives and we are having one heck of a job. Pleas don’t go far and join our crowd and help counteract the new 21st. Century oxymoron of all oxymorons: Progressive Democrats.

zeke

August 31st, 2012
4:08 pm

going right, ok ship for brains, one last time, you like to call names, wanna call me one to my face. time and place.

zeke

August 31st, 2012
4:17 pm

that’s what i thought, secrest out!

Linda

August 31st, 2012
4:27 pm

Going@3:58, You can’t cure stupidity.

The Democrats have convinced their minions that they have created jobs.The unemployment rate on Obama’s inauguration day was 7.8% & it’s now 8.3%. Easy math. Not one single net job during his entire term. So what did $6 TRILLION added to the natl. debt do for us? Nada!

And they want more what? To do what?