Your morning jolt: Bill Byrne suggests a city of East Cobb

Over in Cobb County, Bill Byrne, Republican candidate for commission chairman, has come down with a bad case of municipal fever. He’s raising the prospect of a city of East Cobb in today’s Marietta Daily Journal:

“It’s a concept to begin the discussion, not to end it, and obviously the two district commissioners — Bob Ott and JoAnn Birrell — would have to buy into it or it doesn’t fly, and the Delegation would have to buy into it or they won’t create it,” Byrne said.

Byrne said there is no significant cost involved because the county is already providing the public safety and infrastructure for the area.

“The county itself does not lose a single tax dollar because every city resident pays property taxes, and they would have to create a funding source as they choose to manage their affairs,” Byrne said. “When you take off the table the two most expensive government liabilities — public safety and infrastructure — then they can look at facilities that they choose and hopefully do much like the city of Sandy Springs did and privatize most of it.”

So far, the cityhood virus has been largely confined to Fulton and DeKalb counties.

In the same article by Jon Gillooly, Attorney General Sam Olens, an east Cobb resident and former commission chairman who is supporting incumbent Tim Lee in the primary runoff, says he would oppose the idea.

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And its football team will be the Newt U. Gnus: Losing doesn’t enhance your chances of a prime-time gig in Tampa, according to the New York Times:

Newt Gingrich hoped to get a coveted speaking slot at the Republican National Convention. Instead the Romney campaign will have him teach a series of workshops they have nicknamed Newt University.

Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain are not scheduled to speak, either. They have decided to stage their own mini-convention of sorts — calling it a “unity rally” to dispel any doubts about their party loyalty — at a megachurch about 20 minutes outside town.

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Speaking of Newt Gingrich: On CNN last night, the former Georgia congressman offered up a less-than-absolute defense of a new Mitt Romney ad that accuses President Barack Obama of gutting federal work-for-welfare requirements:

A taste from the transcript:

Anderson Cooper: I’ve got to come back to then the wording of this ad, and again, it’s “under Obama’s plan you wouldn’t have to work, you wouldn’t have to train for a job, they just send you your welfare check.” That’s not saying “we assume this” or “we think this” or “we worry about this,” it’s saying as a fact “this will happen” and that’s just not supported by evidence.

Newt Gingrich:I think if the ad makers had asked me I would have said “This makes it possible” would have been a good way to enter into what it said.

Cooper: So you think the wording of the ad is not actually accurate, that it is too straightforward?

Gingrich: Well, I think the ad does assert, but this is a political ad. In 30 seconds you tend not to get all the various amendments and things —

Cooper: But accuracy is important.

Gingrich: I believe, absolutely, that the Obama administration is filled with people who do not believe in the work requirement…

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The GOP’s right wing has been highly upset over new evidence that the Mitt Romney campaign hasn’t wholly disavowed his health care reform efforts in Massachusetts. From Politico.com:

A Mitt Romney spokesperson offered an unusual counterattack Wednesday to an ad in which a laid-off steelworker blames the presumptive GOP nominee for his family losing health care: If that family had lived in Massachusetts, it would have been covered by the former governor’s universal health care law.

“To that point, if people had been in Massachusetts, under Governor Romney’s health care plan, they would have had health care,” Andrea Saul, Romney’s campaign press secretary, said during an appearance on Fox News. “There are a lot of people losing their jobs and losing their health care in President [Barack] Obama’s economy.”

Ann Coulter is calling for Saul’s head. Erick Erickson of Redstate.com posted the following this morning:

Conservatives have put aside their distrust of Romney on this issue in the name of beating Barack Obama. They thought he and his campaign team had gotten the message and the hints. Consider the scab picked, the wound opened, and the distrust trickling out again.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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89 comments Add your comment

ty cobb

August 9th, 2012
9:43 am

They should put a moat around east cobb.

Question Man

August 9th, 2012
9:44 am

Rather than continuing a drip-drip-drip of multiple city-oriented municipalities, why not start creating municipalities based on individual streets or blocks? Wouldn’t that bring control much closer to home and ensure the true Balkanization of Georgia?

td

August 9th, 2012
10:03 am

Anyone that thinks Obama is waiving the welfare work requirements to increase work is just a plain fool.

Road Scholar

August 9th, 2012
10:16 am

Byrne was a cook the last time he was in Cobb government. How has he changed? City of east Cobb?????

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

August 9th, 2012
10:17 am

“If that family had lived in Massachusetts, it would have been covered by the former governor’s universal health care law”
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And now that ACA has been upheld by SCOTUS, it will not matter what state you live in. You will still have health care coverage after a rich guy from Bain Capital sends your job overseas. Thanks Mitt for providing the model for which affordable health care is available to all ‘Mericans.

More Cities

August 9th, 2012
10:20 am

More cities = a better region. Combine local control of important issues (zoning, land use, code enforcement, parks) with a regional system for transportation, water, sewer, etc. And privatize the departments that perform work saving taxpayer’s money. Getting more and paying less. Who needs a huge count bureaucracy anymore? No one.

This is what we should have had all along. People in the big counties know you have very little influence over the politicians who don’t live in your community, are unaware of details, and largely represent other constituents. Plus these bloated inefficient and ineffective governments waste tax dollars, have too many employees, and are the aberration rather than the rule around the US. Counties should handle public health, libraries, and the courts. Let cities do the rest along with a regional board for major infrastructure. Until we adopt this model in ATL we will go nowhere as in the recent tsplost fiasco.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

August 9th, 2012
10:21 am

Not sure where I stand on the city thing except it would be better than being annexed by Marietta. I believe there used to be a city here called Chattahoochee Hills or something like that which was dissolved. They could bring back that name or call it City of East Snob.

More Cities

August 9th, 2012
10:25 am

And the same goes for these huge dysfunctional school systems too. Come on Georgia legislature let’s open up the schools as well so we can have more local control of our children’s education. Why can’t you allow new school systems to form?

For years we had this artificial limit on new cities. Now we still have it for new school districts. It’s time to change. Give citizens control again in their communities. We don’t want or need 100,000 plus students in a school system.

Kat

August 9th, 2012
10:34 am

I really did not see the “positives” in this idea of a city of East Cobb? Seems like you’d waste too much money trying to get people to “agree” on this or “agree” to that.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

August 9th, 2012
10:35 am

Just think more local control over our school system means we could vote for this at Lassiter:

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2012/08/08/60-million-dollar-high-school-football-stadium-allen-texas?hpt=hp_bn15

Just Wait

August 9th, 2012
10:38 am

The residents of east Cobb are already elitist snobs as it is, the last thing they need is their own city. With their egos, they would never agree on anything except the fence and gates to keep all the low lifes out.

Dirty Dawg

August 9th, 2012
10:41 am

Just what is it with these folks that are so all-fired anxious to create still more layers of government? Are they convinced they’re not getting ‘their money’s worth’ in services? I mean in Fulton and DeKalb you know it’s pretty much driven by prejudice against a predominately black County leadership, but Cobb? Hell, the whole damn County is ‘all in’. There’s no boogie man trying to take something away from everybody else. So the only explanation I can think of is that ‘prestigious’ East Cobbers’ have become so insular…so determined that they don’t want ‘their money’ being spent anywhere but in their neighborhood…or with the ‘private company’ that a friend of theirs runs that will take public dollars and stuff their bank accounts…that tgey want their own little fiefdom. Just think what this country would be if every state decided that the only place their tax dollars could be spent is in their state? For one thing, all the ‘red states’ would be bankrupt and a giant ’sucking sound’ would emanate from them with residents gettin the hell out…then we could expect the ‘have’ states to throw up barriers to entry – perhaps including visas. Then we really would find ourselves ‘Balkanized’. Was this a great country, or what?

Tom

August 9th, 2012
10:47 am

I’ll go out on a limb and predict Byrne’s preferred slogan for The City of East Cobb will not be “Come Have a Gay Ol’ Time in East Cobb!”

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

August 9th, 2012
10:51 am

There will be tithing plates at all checkpoints in/out with ushers watching to see how much each person puts in.

richard

August 9th, 2012
10:54 am

Gays will not be allowed in East Cobb if Byrne has his way. Even the tea party is up in arms over the massive taxes this will cause.

Capitol Hack

August 9th, 2012
10:56 am

“We want less government!” “Cut our taxes!!” “Government is incompetent!!” But somehow, adding another layer of bureaucracy and increasing the number of employees on the government payroll is OK with Georgia “conservatives”. Hello? Even if it’s “privatized”, it is still going to cost you MORE in taxes, people. What’s wrong Mr. Byrne, are the minorities starting to make inroads in your county?

True conservatives would be talking about consolidation instead of Balkanization. More cities = more government = more spending = more taxes. Simple equation. Where is a single conservative who will champion consolidation, cost reduction, and greater efficiency?

Bob Boey

August 9th, 2012
11:07 am

As a resident of East Cobb I would like to ask you lesser humans to quit discussing how we choose to address this or any other issue. Go back to digging a hole, picking weeds or whatever it is you do.

Steve)

August 9th, 2012
11:12 am

When you’re trying to create a city in Georgia, you need to tell people that all of their tax dollars are being squandered by the corruption of “those people” to the south and that everything would be so much better if only you would hand over power to them. It seems to work every time. I don’t see why it wouldn’t work in East Cobb.

Alto 2

August 9th, 2012
11:16 am

SOME of us in East Cobb are normal and just like living here, agree though that there are many snobs…….just sayin’

been there, done that...

August 9th, 2012
11:18 am

There are plenty of gays in East Cobb. It’s just like a Frat house, except the guys are married to women and have kids.

Chris

August 9th, 2012
11:18 am

I grew up in East Cobb and moved back here a few years ago. There’s a good reason for that. It’s a nice area, with nice people. The schools are great and there is very little crime. If someone is proud of that, it does not make him a snob. Those who think otherwise are probably just jealous observers on the outside looking in. It’s a great place to live!

JJ Mule

August 9th, 2012
11:23 am

How about LOST MOUNTAIN CITY?

Rich Black

August 9th, 2012
11:23 am

Yet another republican asking for another layer of government. Hypocrisy at it’s best.

When all is said and done...

August 9th, 2012
11:25 am

“The city of East Cobb” will still be a pseudo-elite Real Housewives community full of white-SUV-driving parvenu trash.

East Cobber

August 9th, 2012
11:27 am

We need to break free from the low life’s abusing our tax revenue.

-East Cobb Rise UP !

C from Marietta

August 9th, 2012
11:29 am

@ Just Wait

Do you actually know anyone from East Cobb? I just love petty general statements about folks in a particular geographic area.

@ When all is said and done…

Racist much? Trash? I just love idiots that talk big behind a computer. YOUR A COWARD!

Matt the Brave

August 9th, 2012
11:32 am

Oh, great. So now the snobs of East Cobb want to have their own city like Sandy Springs. Can’t WAIT for them to look down their noses at us even more because they (wait for it) are from (wait for it more) East Cobb….

barneyfife

August 9th, 2012
11:33 am

As a resident of East Cobb, PLEASE NO!!!!! We are very pleased with out County delivery of services, particularly Police/Fire/EMS/911. We don’t want to pay additional taxes for a City which will inevitably provide inferior services, particularly in the short term.

Face it- even the cities in Cobb can’t provide the level of service and response that the County does. when there’sn incident that overwhelms the cities (and it happens more than you would like to know about), Cobb County comes in all the time to help; such as bombs, SWAT, HazMat, etc. These little fifedoms have got to stop!!! All nothing but power grabs. Leave my County aolone! Bill Byrne and Bob Ott can just go crawl back under the rock they slithered out from.

Chaz

August 9th, 2012
11:33 am

Based on the comments above – Sounds like alot of you are jealous of people that live in East Cobb. It is a great area.

jess

August 9th, 2012
11:41 am

When East Cobb becomes it’s own city the name should certainly be officially changed to EAST SNOB.

Cheese Dip So Good

August 9th, 2012
11:46 am

Funny to think how everyone still says “east cobb snobs” or “cobb county jerks” referring to that area of town. I hear it all the time, especially from friends when they are stuck in traffic trying to get home HAHAHA!!!!

not telling

August 9th, 2012
11:50 am

Wheeler HS was great when I went there 20 years ago. Now its got gang problems. We need a wall down Old Canton Rd. as quick as possible.

WTH?

August 9th, 2012
11:50 am

Remember Bill Byrne’s own words when trying to snooker Polk County into electing him, after his disasterous run for Governor (in his own words from the official 2008 transcript of the Polk Board of Elections Hearing). He claims he was a legal resident of Polk from 2002-until after 2008, and was committed to being a full-time residen of Polk and now he wants to be king of his own fifedom in Cobb again? Even Polk County didn’t want him. What hubris. You just keep shopping yourself around and stirring the pot until someone wants you. I’m the first to admit Tim Lee has made some missteps- but we want no part ofBill Byrne ever again!

So now he’s back in Cobb? No thanks- go back to Polk and just leave us alone. You are not welcome here. Go find another victim you can bully again. City of East Cobb? Really? It’s laughable. We don’t want it nor you!

James

August 9th, 2012
11:51 am

If you west cobbers weren’t leeching off all of our tax dollars, East Cobb wouldn’t need to be its own city. Go take some classes so you can get a better job instead of expecting the rest of us to carry you. West cobb is even worse that Atlanta.

billyBobjacket

August 9th, 2012
11:57 am

The dysfunctional, corrupt, and crony-run county governments of DeKalb and Fulton Counties resulted in the essentially disenfranchised residents of unincorporated areas seeking a form of government in which they would actually have a say and be able to hold elected officials accountable. If some Democrat-leaning enclave if Gwinnett County wanted to incorporate, Galloway would be all for it!

East Cobber

August 9th, 2012
12:02 pm

East Cobb Rise UP !

I like the wall idea from Old Canton road over. Lets add a Toll as well, that way people have to pay to come over to greatness.

East Cobb Snob / Winner for life,

Haters going to hate

B. Thenet

August 9th, 2012
12:03 pm

Why does East Cobb need to be a city, it is well taken care of by Cobb County. Great schools, great services. East Cobb does not have the problems that Sandy Springs, Johns Creek, etc. had with the county.

If it ain’t broke…. Yet another reason to vote for Tim Lee

But, just in case here are some name ideas:

Johnson’s Ferry
The City of East Cobb(you have to say the whole thing)
Sewell Mill
Sope Creek

J Throckmorton Malcontent

August 9th, 2012
12:04 pm

Why have cities at all? Why not just band into tribes? Nothing could be more tax efficient or bootstrappy then an extended family unit hunting and gathering and making war with other tribes. Only the strongest would survice, it’s a win-win situation.

findog

August 9th, 2012
12:04 pm

The president is meeting the request of governors, some republican, to allow them to adapt welfare in their own states to what they think will work. We got to the current state of work requirements when Clinton let Thompson tinker with welfare while he was governor. I don’t see how local control could be a bad thing in republican circles; unless the ability to obfuscate the truth for political purposes. Another violation of number six by the bible thumpers…

EastCobbDavid

August 9th, 2012
12:08 pm

I thought all your GOPers believed that the Feds should get out of the welfare business and leave that and just about everything else to the states … So Obama gives the individual states a waiver so that they can design their own version of ‘work-fare’ (the order requires that any action taken by the state under the waiver reduces unemployment) … and you cry “foul”. Thank God the pres is smarter than you!

Road Scholar

August 9th, 2012
12:09 pm

In his comments above, Byrne does not define what is wrong with present services in East Cobb, nor does he define which services that he would consider needing “city” attention. But Bob Boey shows the arrogance of many in East Cobb (if he was being sarcastic, it was lost on me), but James sums up the arrogance concerning the “undesirables”. In Brookhaven, we defined what was wrong (lack of police, unresponsive Dekalb as to planning and zoning and roads and drainage) and our desire to be more hands on. There is no “additional layer” of government; we’re in the process of replacing these services with more local control and with a tax cut!

honested

August 9th, 2012
12:11 pm

I just wish I could fast-forward 10 years.
All of the ‘botique cities’ are underperforming and over-budget but they keep putting a happy face on it.
When enough time passes and people have to accept they have gained nothing but additional expenses, I hope there is a plan in place for a strong consolidated governmental structure committed to providing services rather than lining pockets.

Patrick

August 9th, 2012
12:12 pm

Another case of Republican BS.

They say: We want less government.

What they mean: We want more control over who moves into our neighborhood. Bring back the good’ ole days.

findog

August 9th, 2012
12:14 pm

East Cobb,
Chattahoochee Hills is south of the airport.
More,
Local control of schools, you mean charter, because you can always train your prodigy from home.
The true solution is the Athens-Clarke County model. We could get the number of communities down to 159; one per county, and then businesses wouldn’t be so cautious about moving to the land of minor fiefdom that Georgia has become.

ATL CPA

August 9th, 2012
12:20 pm

If you want to keep the riff raff out just don’t build cheap homes (say under $300K) and/or apartments. And this isn’t so much a race thing as it is a class thing.

honested

August 9th, 2012
12:24 pm

Also, it wouldn’t hurt if our electorate would pay attention to the effectiveness (or lack therof) of current office-holders rather than dive into pointless escapades to move the goal line rather than ensure the job of Governance gets done.
As long as we re-elect those who got us into a mess, it doesn’t matter where the city or county lines are drawn.

Patrick

August 9th, 2012
12:24 pm

ATL CPA – Spoken like an elitist. Money doesn’t make your smarter, or a better person. Assuming someone who can’t afford $300,000 home is riff raff is a major problem in this country.

Sparta_Bubba

August 9th, 2012
12:27 pm

Conservative Republicans are opposed to any government they don’t control and will continually rant and rave about “less government”, etc., etc. when they don’t control it. When they control the government, it can’t get too big! Worse bunch of whinning hypocrits I’ve ever seen!

Carol

August 9th, 2012
12:27 pm

Why is Newt Gingrich still relevant? Shouldn’t he have gone the way of Bachmann, Cain, Perry and Santorum?

Newt Gingrich would rather lie through his teeth to say something so that he can retain his 15 mins. of fame. The sad thing is, both the left and right are willing to give him the time of day.

Using his logic I can easily say that I believe he wants to be King of the United States. And that if elected he would change our Republic Democracy to a monarchy so that this will be achieved. And I truly believe he would try to do this.

The Truth

August 9th, 2012
12:39 pm

Let’s form a city so the ‘coloreds’ and MARTA can’t get in…