Your morning jolt: Saxby Chambliss wants presidential debate on deficit reduction

U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss and a bipartisan trio of his colleagues are demanding that one of three presidential debates this fall be dedicated to the deficit recommendations of the Bowles-Simpson Commission.

From their letter to the Commission on Presidential Debates, via The Hill:

“Specifically, we request that you ask the presidential candidates which of the recommendations of the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform they would adopt as part of their plan to reduce the deficit. As part of this discussion, we believe that it would be essential to engage the candidates in a detailed discussion of their priorities for tax and entitlement reform,” the letter states.

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Part of the problem with the concept of metro Atlanta’s transportation sales tax was that it required you to associate with people you’d rather not. From an editorial in today’s Marietta Daily Journal:

[R]ather than rely on the state or the Atlanta Regional Commission to solve our road problems, Cobb’s next chairman and our legislators should combine with their counterparts in the neighboring counties that generate a disproportionate share of our traffic — namely Cherokee, Bartow and Paulding.

Rather than being part of a metro-wide approach trying to address Atlanta’s congestion all at once, the more promising approach might be to create a northwest region consortium or commission — not to create a new layer of bureaucracy, but for the express purpose of focusing on relieving traffic congestion.

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State Rep. Doug Collins was out of the box on Wednesday with an attack on Martha Zoller, his runoff rival in the Republican race for the new 9th congressional district. The state lawmaker pointed his finger at her endorsements by Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich in an email to supporters that included this:

We expect her campaign to continue to follow the Obama strategy of using celebrities instead of substance over the course of the next three weeks…Over the next 19 days, we have to come together and show once again that We Are the 9th District – not Governors from Alaska and media celebrities from D.C.

The emphasis is in the original. This is a dog whistle of a message that, if placed in a lower frequency, reads: “They ain’t from around here.”

For her part, Zoller on Wednesday was content simply to join the Republican rally around Chik-fil-A CEO Truett Cathy.

A debate between Collins and Zoller has already been scheduled for 7 p.m. Monday, Aug. 13 at the Gainesville Civic Center.

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The Athens Banner-Herald reports that state Rep. Doug McKillip of Athens, who lost GOP challenger Regina Quick by only 70 votes on Tuesday, won’t ask for a recount:

While McKillip said he had discovered some minor irregularities in connection with Tuesday balloting, specifically that a half-dozen voters in Athens-Clarke County apparently assigned incorrectly to House District 117 — he indicated that there was no overriding reason to seek a recount.

McKillip wasn’t the only party-switcher to lose on Tuesday. In fact, Republicans lost a far more important recruit. From the Gainesville Times:

Political newcomer Jeff Stowe easily beat incumbent commissioner Ashley Bell by double-digit percentage points in Tuesday’s Republican primary to take the District 4 seat on the Hall Board of Commissioners….

The District 4 results were surprising. In fundraising, Bell raised nearly $44,000 in campaign contributions in 2012, according to the latest available numbers. That was four times that of Stowe.

Still, Stowe was able to strike a chord with voters that may have come down to party loyalty.

Bell, who is African-American, joined Republicans to great hoopla in 2010. Here’s the ceremony that greeted the event:

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To appreciate the irony of this New York Times story, you have to remember that New York City has filed lawsuits over its claim that Georgia supplies much of the weaponry used to commit crimes in the Big Apple:

[I]nJune, New York City sold more than 28,000 pounds of the Police Department’s spent shell casings not to a scrap metal company, as it has in the past, but to a Georgia ammunition store. The store, Georgia Arms, routinely buys once-fired shell casings, reloads them with bullets and sells them to the public.

The store sells bags of 50 bullets, at about $15 each; per Georgia’s gun laws, no questions are asked and no identification or registration is required. It is a transaction that could not occur in New York City, where it is illegal to possess ammunition without a license to own a gun, and where obtaining a license to own a gun is harder than in most other states.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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[...] Your morning jolt: Saxby Chambliss wants presidential debate on deficit reductionAtlanta Journal Constitution (blog)9:48 am August 2, 2012, by jgalloway. U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss and a bipartisan trio of his colleagues are demanding that one of three presidential debates this fall be dedicated to the deficit recommendations of the Bowles-Simpson Commission. [...]

Look before I leap...

August 2nd, 2012
10:15 am

Interesting that Atlanta’s murder rate is nearly 3 times that of NYC.
Jus’ sayin’

Sir William Jennings

August 2nd, 2012
10:15 am

Romney is for killing the trillion or so in sequestered spending cuts Obama signed in the August 2011 budget deal.

Romney = Bush type big spender.

Look before I leap...

August 2nd, 2012
10:26 am

Chambliss is an idiot.
You can’t address deficit reduction while the economy is barely limping along.
We have an 800 BILLION dollar gap in production output and any politically motivated attempts to reduce the deficit by raising taxes and slashing spending will toss us right back into recession.

The analogy is, the unemployed person who has just enough money to pay the rent and put food on the table but also owes Citibank several thousand on his Visa. Citibank is just gonna have to wait until this person goes back to work.

oldfart

August 2nd, 2012
10:28 am

“…not to create a new layer of bureaucracy, but for the express purpose of focusing on relieving traffic congestion.”

And then if they so choose they can present their constituency with a SPLOST vote within a “special district” that is constitutionally allowed to levy taxes, their county.

legionaire

August 2nd, 2012
10:35 am

Sen. Chambliss is whizzing in the wind. His biggest problem is that he insists on trying to be another McCain and reaches across the aisle to dems ala Ted Kennedy and “comprehensive immigration”. Liberal dems laugh at him behind his back as a hick redneck south Georgia hack. The only solution to runaway spending is being done one RINO at a time and one liberal democrat at a time and working to kick out Obama and all his czars. Underestimate the Teaparty and the taxpayers at your own risk.

Mary

August 2nd, 2012
10:43 am

You are right legionaire…we do laugh at him behind his back! And he is a big redneck from South Georgia… and by the way Ted Kennedy passed away last year please show a little respect.

RetiredSoldier

August 2nd, 2012
10:53 am

Want to jump start the economy and balance the budget? Cut the budget, eliminate federal agencies that aren’t needed. Reduce the agencies that are needed. Eliminate Obamacare and implement the Fair Tax. Now you will have a functioning economy and a more responsible federal government.

Willie

August 2nd, 2012
10:56 am

How disingenuous of you to be “offended” at a supposed lack of respect for a deceased senator but have no comment when a sitting senator is called an “idiot”. Get a new act because this one is boring.

Hypocrite.

Ga Values

August 2nd, 2012
10:57 am

I voted for Saxby 1st time, never again.

Auntie Christ

August 2nd, 2012
10:57 am

We have 90.000 troops in Afghanistan, 70,000 in Japan and Korea, another 70,000 in Europe, all being paid for out of a DoD budget of almost $800 Billion this year. Yet the biggest threat to our lives is a lone assassin carrying back packs, shoes and underwear filled with plastique.

The most galling to me is watching the Olympics and seeing commercials from General Foods telling me to save my box tops so that my local school can get pens, paper and printers for our children’s education. I believe the Pentagon should be the ones saving box tops, and my children getting a big chunk of that money going to Japan, Korea and Germany’s ‘protection’

chambliss signed norquist’s pledge for no tax increases, and is a constant advocate for more military spending and perpetual war. He is the last person I will listen to when he calls for austerity at the expense of the sick, the elderly and our children’s future.

Oldman45

August 2nd, 2012
11:01 am

Just what we need…Saxby in another debate…talking and never doing anything!

yuzeyurbrane

August 2nd, 2012
11:02 am

Saxby is just engaging in a little political pr to make him look reasonable for his next election. Not a chance that either Romney or Obama want to highlight this issue and therefore neither will agree to debate it without unacceptable conditions.

TiredOfIt

August 2nd, 2012
11:05 am

“implement the Fair Tax”
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Never going to happen, the 1% would have to pay more.

Bill from Atlanta

August 2nd, 2012
11:27 am

Really, everyone needs to remember all that Sax has done and not done when he is up for re election. Hope that the conservative informed will have enough clout to prevent us from putting another middle of the road hick back in office.
Not that it has much to do with this blog but Johnny “traditional GAWGA conservative values” Isackson supported the UN gun control treaty. How do we elect these clowns?
Auntie Christ…again I half agree with you. We are wasting gobs of money with the military. What I disagree with is I don’t think austerity is in your vocabulary. Destroy All government programs except what was specified by the original creators of this governmnet (later interpretations by the USSC are WRONG!) and give the freedoms back to the citizens. I think they can survive and thrive without big brother.

Truth-O-Meter

August 2nd, 2012
11:32 am

I showed Chambliss the door when he “swift-boated” Max Cleland. Nothing he says now can ever mitigate that performance in my book.

Funny how Republicans say the government does not create jobs but they were sure scrambling a few years ago to keep military bases in their district open and cited negative economic impact if they were to close.

Auntie Christ

August 2nd, 2012
11:32 am

Definition of the “Fair Tax” to a repub/tea partier: My taxes are to high, yours are too low, you need to pay more.

Auntie Christ

August 2nd, 2012
11:34 am

The repub/tea party definition of a “Fair Tax:” I’m taxed enough already, you’re not. You need to pay more.

AmVet

August 2nd, 2012
11:37 am

How any veteran could vote for the depraved coward, Saxby Chambliss, is beyond me…

Auntie Christ

August 2nd, 2012
11:41 am

sorry for the duplicate post above, the site showed an error first time around,

td

August 2nd, 2012
11:54 am

yuzeyurbrane

August 2nd, 2012
11:02 am

“Saxby is just engaging in a little political pr to make him look reasonable for his next election.”

Why does it matter to Saxby? If he does not have primary opposition from the right (which this may cause) then he will easily win re election in Georgia.

Mr_B

August 2nd, 2012
11:54 am

Mittens would have a hard time in Saxby’s debate, since he’s on record as supporting the Ryan budget, which will actually increase annual deficits, unless we get unemployment south of 3%.

GaBlue

August 2nd, 2012
11:55 am

Interesting… Sexy Chablis is working Obama’s campaign now. Good for him/her!

WOW

August 2nd, 2012
12:04 pm

I applaud Senator Chamliss (there is a first time for everything; if he would issue Max Cleland a public appology he may have earned my vote). This would be an interesting debate since both candidates have not clarified there stance on Simpson-Bowles. Not that its perfect, but it seems to me to be a decent place to start negotiating.

@legionare
Your sentiments are exactly why nothing is getting done in Washington.

Kris

August 2nd, 2012
12:06 pm

“Saxby Chambliss and a bipartisan group of idiots/crooks of his are demanding”

Well I and (any takers on the forum) three for a trio, or six for a citizen party, To DEMAND that SAXby put a cork in it and resign.

Recall Chambliss
IMPEACH DEAL
Recall reed and ride him out on a rail.

Metro Mensa Man

August 2nd, 2012
12:14 pm

Mary @ 10:43a.m.; Would that Mary Jo Kopechne could be alive today and show your Teddy “..a little respect..”>/i>

jwc

August 2nd, 2012
12:16 pm

The comments themselves show how uncivilized and intolerant we are becoming. It’s time for debate…real debate. Romney shows only ambition. He’s secretive in the Nixon tradition. He answers nothing. He thinks he’s above it all, and “YOU PEOPLE” are not deserving of information from him. He’s not a veteran, yet he wants to be Commander in Chief. He pays scant taxes, but he wants to distribute your income. He breaks the law (lies), but he wants to legislate. He needs to be publicly exposed for the charlatan he is….one debate should do it…. and we need to get on with paying down debt, producing goods that produce real work, income equity, tax reform, and a raft of important issues ignored for so long for the sake of political posturing. The tipping point is coming if we don’t.

20/20

August 2nd, 2012
12:25 pm

TO: TiredOfIt – 11:05 am

“implement the Fair Tax”
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Never going to happen, the 1% would have to pay more.

Sure wish it could be enacted, then the 99% would make up the deficit difference instead of whining constantly. I believe as the socialists do, that the wealthy should “pay their fair share” and go a step further in saying that the 47% that pay little or NO taxes should also pay their fair share. What good for the goose…
That extra 30% “fair share” that has been mentioned by the ever-whining liberal socialists would also be a starting point for the 47 percent whiners.
Selah.

jconservative

August 2nd, 2012
12:26 pm

I would love to see a debate centered on both reducing deficit spending and paying off the $16 trillion national debt. I have yet to see a plan by anyone that takes on both these challenges.

Jon Lester

August 2nd, 2012
12:27 pm

Zaxby ought to know better. Have you seen a map of US military bases in the Middle East and Central Asia? Why wouldn’t Iran feel agitated? And do you really think the Israelis will care if we all have to pay $10/gallon for gas as a result of their own aggression? It’s time to stop giving aid to any and all theocratic apartheid states, including the Islamic republics we helped create in the last 20 years, and leave them to figure out their own regional solutions. Then we’d have plenty of money for a “Great Society.”

RetiredSoldier

August 2nd, 2012
12:28 pm

jwc-

Is Obama a veteran? Obama has added over 5 trillion and he’ll pay down the debt? Are you serious.

oldfart

August 2nd, 2012
12:36 pm

I’ve always gave the utmost respect to sitting Senators. I even offered to hold Herman’s overcoat for him once.

20/20

August 2nd, 2012
12:42 pm

wc@12:16am:

I took the liberty of breaking down you insane comments to see if I understand them and to ask that you please supply answers to back up your insidious claims about Mitt Romney:

1) Romney shows only ambition.
God forbid that any one in America could be accused for having “ambition”, particularly one running for Chief Executive of this country;
2) He’s secretive in the Nixon tradition.
Please give some examples of this. Having researched Romney for a publication I could not find this to be even partially true;
3) YOU PEOPLE” are not deserving of information from him.
Where did this come from? Is that your opinion?
4) He pays scant taxes, but he wants to distribute your income. Scant taxes.
Hmmm. Define scant in this context. At least he PAYS taxes;
5) He’s not a veteran, yet he wants to be Commander in Chief.
Good God you dimwit. I suppose the Community Organizer lays claim to this by once applying to be a Cub Scout. If that’s the only criteria for being CIC, Lord help us..
6) He breaks the law (lies), but he wants to legislate.
OK, what law or laws specifically did Romney break?
7) He needs to be publicly exposed for the charlatan he is.
Go back and check with Webster and see if you really think Romney is a “charlatan!”

Finally: I would like to reprint your very first statement: “The comments themselves show how uncivilized and intolerant we are becoming.” That pretty well describes your dim-witted comments.

Auntie Christ

August 2nd, 2012
12:43 pm

I even offered to hold Herman’s overcoat for him once. :) LOL But only us other oldfarts get the reference.

zeke

August 2nd, 2012
12:59 pm

auntie christ, yea but there are still plenty of old farts around; on chamblis his idea on deficit reduction sounds good (blind hog can find acorn) and i would not mind one on tax plans of each candidate with a neutral referee to call bs if numbers not right

The enemy within

August 2nd, 2012
1:02 pm

A debate on deficit reduction would be a great idea – IF RON PAUL GETS THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION. Otherwise, the audience will be left confused as to what difference there is between the two big-government candidates. Romney will be spending trillions on pointless, undeclared wars, foreign aid for Israel, the continuation of the failed war on drugs, the unsustainable entitlement programs of Social Security, Medicare, and the prescription drug plan – and SO WILL OBAMA.

Only Ron Paul has offered up a serious plan to cut spending – $1 trillion the first year and a balanced budget by the end of his first term.

I have not looked at Libertarian Gary Johnson’s plans. I suspect that he would cut extensively as well, but we can be sure that the duopoly that controls ideas and free thought in this country will never allow anything other than the limited ideas of the republican and democratic party nominees to ever be aired on national television. Just look at the last time a third party candidate was given any serious coverage.

Bottom line is that Saxby is a complete joke. He really does not care about cutting spending, the budget, or anything else in government except things that make democrats squeal. You cannot support a massive foreign empire, an horrifically invasive police state at home, and huge financial benefits for your friends in the banking sector and wall street AND cut spending in any serious fashion. Saxby and Romney both support all of the above.

Don’t look for any serious changes unless the GOP in Tampa comes to their senses and nominates Ron Paul over that milketoast warmonger Rombama.

Double Zero Eight

August 2nd, 2012
2:12 pm

Regarding a deficit debate, Obama and Romney
would memorize and rehash data that was prepared by
their handlers. In addition, either candidate can say
anything in order to win the election, with no intentions
of following through on their promises.

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