Nathan Deal’s Plan B: Governor intends to step into transportation vacuum
On Tuesday morning, as metro Atlanta voters hurled an $8 million sales tax campaign into the trash, Gov. Nathan Deal held what aides called his first session with top transportation officials to discuss Plan B.
What voters dismissed was a bottom-up list of $8 billion in road and rail projects created by local elected leaders. (Read the main AJC piece on the TSPLOST vote here.)
The Plan B that staggered out of the governor’s office will be its polar opposite: Dramatically smaller, paid for with shrinking funds, and highly centralized. Projects will be hand-picked by a governor who intends to squeeze every penny available.
And no matter what others might say today, don’t look for a sequel to the TSPLOST referendum. A second vote has no place in the governor’s Plan B.
Instead, Chris Riley, the governor’s chief of staff, said traffic planners in regions across the state will be quickly asked to resubmit lists of road and rail proposals that require state and federal funding – figuring in an 8 percent decrease in federal funding. The governor has veto power over each list.
Riley said that Deal intends to use that authority to direct cash to absolutely essential projects in metro Atlanta and elsewhere. “The state’s top transportation priority is the Ga. 400 and I-285 interchange,” Riley said. But metro Atlanta residents could also find themselves enduring pot holes and worse for the sake of better roads around the Port of Savannah, he added.
That’s another priority.
The governor’s top aide said Deal had been hesitant to speak of alternatives before TSPLOST balloting ended. ”We didn’t want anyone to think that it would fail. But you can’t be a governor and not look at both options,” Riley said.
The governor is likely to express his disappointment today over the outcome of Tuesday’s vote. Certainly he will focus on the price of austerity, as chosen by voters. “Will we be able to compete in the global market with Plan B? Yes. Will every company look at us? No,” said Brian Robinson, Deal’s director of communications.
But in a way, defeat clears the way for Deal to assume full responsibility for the mess that is Georgia’s system of planning and paying for moving goods and people. The TSPLOST referendum, with its awkward system of roundtables to settle on project lists and a vote conducted in the heat of a GOP primary, was the handiwork of Gov. Sonny Perdue.
But, however liberated he may feel, Deal has few options. The most direct route – asking a Republican-led Legislature for a tax increase, whether on gasoline or anything else, is off the table. Some opponents of the TSPLOST, including Senate Majority Leader Chip Rogers of Woodstock, have said they’ll push for a second TSPLOST referendum with a more road-friendly list.
But that would require a Legislature willing to debate it, a business community willing to pony up millions for another campaign, and Republican leadership in suburban Atlanta that will speak up for when the time for voting comes. Let’s ask Tim Lee, the chairman of the Cobb County Commission, how that worked out for him.
Any attempt at a second vote will move without the governor’s backing. “We haven’t given any thought of presenting it to the General Assembly,” Riley said.
That leaves the big decisions on what will be built, and with what funds, largely in the hands of the governor, the state Department of Transportation, and planning agencies like the Atlanta Regional Commission. But mostly in the hands of the governor.
“The governor will not move forward without the consent GDOT,” Riley said – very carefully. Deal will court approval from the DOT board, but he intends to keep the initiative. The governor recently appointed a trusted aide, Toby Carr, as the DOT’s planning director, giving him another layer of control over what transportation projects are funded.
So the Atlanta Regional Commission will soon have to clear its wish lists with the governor. ARC Chairman Tad Leithead said he’ll be happy to do so. “I think the entire state would welcome anything the governor does to keep transportation moving,” he said.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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424 comments Add your comment
Wutehvah
August 1st, 2012
9:11 am
Think Deal will follow-thru on killing the 400 tolls now that TSPLOST has been killed?? NOT!! That promise came outta the blue he thinks that’s gonna help his re-election. Why not kill the tolls now?? Too little / too late
amy
August 1st, 2012
9:13 am
Of course there was a plan B!!! No one lied to you, plan B is just not as extensive because there will be no tax income to build roads or make improvements. How does anyone think these things get done?
Amazing
August 1st, 2012
9:17 am
Tha AJC headline that the Tea Party won is misleading. One, it is an insult to the intelligence of non-tea partiers who clearly voted in large numbers against T-Splost. The headline should read Georgians won in the defeat of T-Splost. What is also interesting is that I heard someone say they voted against the T-Splost because they did not trust policitians to handle the money appropriately. But, the same knuckleheads (from the right and left) were put back into office. Doing the same thing the same way will not get you different results!
Sideline Dude
August 1st, 2012
9:19 am
And may TSPLOST rest in peace forever & ever. If it had passed, the DOT would have been even more powerful. It’s already a fourth branch of state government.
JL
August 1st, 2012
9:19 am
Just a side comment. So if rail lines are so valued by major corporations such as Home Depot, Cox communications, Coca-cola, etc. why aren’t any of their major corporations at a major MARTA train station? The business leaders should put their money where their mouths are.
This city no longer has a centralized business district, it’s fragmented.
Also, if you really want a reduction in traffic, why not introduce a Major INCOME TAX CREDIT for those who live within a 5 mile radius of where they work. (Oh wait that doesn’t put money into cronies hands, too simple I guess)
blady
August 1st, 2012
9:19 am
Has anyone asked our Georgian elected officials why they didn’t take some of the Obama stimulus dollars to fund some of these ‘critical’ projects? Seems they cut off their noses to spite their faces. And then they want us to pay for their decision to put politics before people. NO, NO, _ELL NO!
Middle of the Road
August 1st, 2012
9:20 am
Jason beat me to it : I was told there was not and would not be a “Plan B”. Then we were told a couple of days ago that the vote would be close. And you want to know WHY we don’t believe those who were pushing TSPLOST. “Yes, it WILL end after ten years, trust us.” “Yes, we will take down the Ga400 toll booths, trust us”. “Yes, we will spend this money wisely, trust us.”
Jason
August 1st, 2012
9:21 am
“Of course there was a plan B!!! No one lied to you, [...]”
Um, yes, they said over and over again “There is no Plan B”. That’s was lie. You can debate over whether or not anyone should have believed them but just because the lie was obvious doesn’t mean it wasn’t a lie. Stop enabling their awful unethical immoral behavior!
Road Scholar
August 1st, 2012
9:21 am
Oldfart @12:17am: SRTA has always been a separate authority. The Board consists of it’s Director (Evans) , the GDOT Commissioner and the Governor.
Someone accused the Tea Party and Nimby’s of killing Splost. Add: Bananas…Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything!
Alex Bacardi:The OP will do nothing but add sprawl, further diluting transportation dollars. Oh and the original OP did not go through North Fulton. It went through Gwinnett, Forsyth, and Cobb Co. It was Forsyth that allowed, no built schools, and sewage treatment plants and rezoned property within the area of the environmentally preferred alignment! It was repub homeowners that caused Sonny to kill it 30 days before the Environmental Impact Statement was to be approved by the Feds. Traffic models and patterns showed that it would minimally approve congestion on I 285 and on the local road system. Please get your “facts” right!
Bob in Atlanta.
August 1st, 2012
9:22 am
Georgia is so ass-backwards.
Liberty
August 1st, 2012
9:24 am
Metro Atlanta is a backward and conservative place. Nothing has changed.
Ken
August 1st, 2012
9:27 am
The solution is very clear … ask 3-million people to move out of the Atlanta-metro area. Now, that’s progress.
GAAREDSTATE
August 1st, 2012
9:30 am
The message was…and will continue to be …..NO NEW TAXES!
Reign in excessive spending and exorbant budgets at the FEDERAL, STATE and LOCAL Level!
Every BUSINESS that wants to survive makes FISCAL ADJUSTMENTS except GOVERNMENT!!
GOVERNMENT (At all levels!)….that nasty word that thinks it is ABOVE ALL when it comes to FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY!
GET RID OF THE FAT, THE PORK, and SPEND “within your means”! It would be AMAZING if the GOVERNMENT could set an example and stop the RUNNAWAY SPENDING TRAIN!
As a resident of COBB COUNTY….it amazes me how much money is WASTED on re-designing perfectly good roads, creating Kaos….and not fixing the simple “POT HOLES”!
I am proud that “WE THE PEOPLE” sent a message to “GOVERNMENT”!!!
hiram
August 1st, 2012
9:31 am
This is just what Brother Deal needed. Keep your eyes on him, his Gainesville poultry sugardaddies, shady business partners, and Sonny. All roads lead to Savannah. I forgot Kasim – he’s suddenly interested in Savannah also. Deal, Perdue, Reed, LLC.
Bryan -- MARTA supporter
August 1st, 2012
9:33 am
Here’s why the T-SPLOST failed. Because of comments like Tim August 1st, 2012 1:02 am
Uninformed people. The Ga 400 tolls were nothing like the T-SPLOST because there was no limit set on how long the tolls would be in place. There were limits set by law with the T-SPLOST.
Also the HOT lanes were force upon commuters. We had the option to vote on this. Enjoy your plan B no voters!
Middle of the Road
August 1st, 2012
9:35 am
Plan B for improving traffic and restoring faith in government:
Remove Toll Booths from Ga 400 TODAY! Eat the penalties.
Disband GRTA.
Convert I-85 HOT lanes back to HOV lanes. Pay back any federal monies.
Study the REAL causes of traffic congetion on ROADS and come up with REAL solutions (not building a Beltline that will not take ANY traffic off 75 north).
I think you will find the majority of causes of gridlock are:
Peace Out ATL
August 1st, 2012
9:37 am
Good job in not passing a tax that would have been funded by a lot of people who don’t even live in your own state. I know I would HATE it if a bunch of random strangers helped to pay for renovations to my house. So yeah, way to not let people from out of town help to pay for new roads and mass transit opportunities! Woo hoo! Take the power back! Yeah! Let’s instead wait on property and gasoline tax increases to fund renovations to 285. That’ll show big government!
Just another referendum on the fiscal stupidity of most of America. This city will be a laggard in the southern business community by 2020.
PLAN B
August 1st, 2012
9:38 am
Move to a city with residents who care about their future. You all have fun with a population of Tea Baggers and those too poor or stupid to move. Should make for a good mix at Braves games.
Hayek
August 1st, 2012
9:39 am
JL..Spot on,
I woud opine that the answer is because their employees would have to either downsize or spend big $$ on similarly size homes and pay for private school.
Like I said on page 4, this plan was about maintaining status quo and lacked vision.
Wutehvah
August 1st, 2012
9:39 am
Bryan — MARTA supporter …
Yes, there were limits set on GA 400 tolls. The project passed because the tolls were to be stopped once the project was paid for. That happened several years ago, yet the toll is still being collected.
PLAN B
August 1st, 2012
9:39 am
@middle of the road. You just named 3 things that cost money without solving anything. Brilliant.
BLAH!!! BLAH!!!! BLAH!!!!!!!
August 1st, 2012
9:40 am
I didn’t agree completely with everything that TSPLOSH was bringing to the table, but it was a START… when are some of us going to come out of our caves and realize that the rest of the World, better yet, the rest of the Country is passing this region by… Sorry, this isn’t the seventies anymore, time to get out of your little World’s for a moment,the population isn’t going to get any smaller (unless some big natural and/or self afflicting occurrance happens) …. Gwinnett, Dekalb, North Fulton, Cobb, and Clayton all have MASSIVE TRAFFIC ISSUES!!! No, these bootleg, stupid transit buses a.k.a Gwinnett Transit (even though helpful) will not solve the problem, we need more RAIL LINES, Sidewalks, heck, even more bike paths to control the problem, the goal is to get some of the cars off the Dang roads!!!! I personally am sick of wasting my life in traffic!!! Sick of HIGH GAS PRICES, Sick of hearing about another deadly accident (and sitting in it), sick of spending of my hard earned money on all of the stupid Car maintance!!!! No, I’m not going to move elsewhere (unless I can actually find a better job), I am actually from here!!! The Atlanta metropolitan area continues to prove to be a Big City with a Mississippi Mentality!!!!!!! Georgia, grow the $^%@ up, stop with the scared, slave mentality!!!! Vote for Politicians who actually know what they are doing, stop supporting the idiots in organizations such as the Tea Party and NAACP!!!!! Time is passing us all by!!!!!!
Good Grief
August 1st, 2012
9:40 am
Are we actually to believe that we don’t have enough revenue to make cuts in certain places and move those funds toward targeted infrastructure repair?
Or is Georgia’s government just like the federal government: willing to raise spending 5%, but then unwilling to make even the smallest of spending cuts?
Bryan -- MARTA supporter
August 1st, 2012
9:41 am
@ GAAREDSTATE August 1st, 2012 9:30 am
You guys really showed government huh? Guess what? GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO SHOW YOU NOW! Instead of us using local money to pay for projects decided by local officials we will now have BIG government choose our projects for us and we will be forced to pay for them. Not with tax increases but with reduction of government spending in programs needed and the perfect HOT/TOLL lanes that we currently have. And trust it will be done by any governor (Repub or Demo) because ATL has a traffic problem.
GREAT JOB NO VOTERS!
PLAN B
August 1st, 2012
9:41 am
Atlanta + 12 years = Detroit
REALLY??
August 1st, 2012
9:46 am
So plan B is to put all transportation decisions in the hands of someone with no transportation experience? What a bass ackwards state this is.
Road Scholar
August 1st, 2012
9:46 am
My observation on the vote: The same incumbents were revoted back in, or at least lead and will have a runoff.-So much for throw those bums you can’t trust out! The Tsplost was defeated- No new revenue- same problem we have now- too many needed projects and not enough funds. The business community lost big time- then why do you keep supporting the same candidates- do you think your on-going support will change anything? Deal is taking over GDOT- it happened under Perdue- you’re a little late- now it is out in the open. Reelect the GDOT Board? Who the he!! do you think the legislators will vote in?
Get real! All you transportation “experts” that voted against Tsplost…have fun sitting in more traffic when the GRTA and Cobb buses stop running and all those people get in their cars! Have a nice morning noon and night in traffic, ya’ll!!! Oh and the price of gas is going up! Put that in your gas tanks!
yuzeyurbrane
August 1st, 2012
9:48 am
Deal is to be commended for exercising some leadership. If he chooses wisely, the voters will reward him; if he chooses badly, or corruptly, the voters will punish him. Ideally, these choices should come from the legislature but T-Splost has shown what a bunch of spineless politicians they are.
J Throckmorton Malcontent
August 1st, 2012
9:48 am
Hopefully this we be the end of goverment by referenda in Georgia. If it doesn’t work in California it certainly won’t work here.
The reason politicians and politics are a necessary evil is that it requires a professional class, acting professionally, to advance the public good. When the Georgia executive & legislature show some interest in something other than shovin’ dem babies back up in there and slashing education funding and accept their responsibility to act and lead, then progress of some sort can be made. If you kick it back to the people–any people, not just Georgians or Americans–they will always vote for less taxes and more services. This is a given. It is the task of the political class to work around this fact.
No one expects politicians not to line their pockets–but if they forget to do the public good while doing well for themselves, they will lose the public trust and therefore access to the cookie jar.
john
August 1st, 2012
9:51 am
Delta should build up it’s presence in Charlotte because that will become the capital of the South. Atlanta and Georgia as a whole just took a huge leap backward, But we still have the trolley from Centennial Olympic park to the King center.Does that qualify as Mass Transit?
Debbie Dooley you and fellow Tea Partiers have ruined the Republican party. I am ashamed to say I am a Republican ,You and Chip Rogers have no foresight and will drag Georgia and Atlanta into a second tier city and region.
Frankie
August 1st, 2012
9:51 am
SO what your suggestion, stop complaining about a loss and get a new plan.
a lot of the so called traffic fixes in and around atlanta were not backed by any information, what purpose does it serve to widen a road that is seldom used or the traffic flow is not causing any delay.
They should be looking at the Merge lights that back up traffic onto the secondary roads ad are the cause of numerous accidents daily.
If the TSPLOST was so great, what was the money we spent previous tax dollars on to IMPROVE the roads used for…wy are we in the situation we are in now with traffic concerns…
GA DOT filed to properly plan forexpansion. they fell behind in the planning now they are trying to make up for it by wrapping this whole initiative around job creation, business comng to georgia…
the campaign did not give enough info…what states have utilized TSPLOST and have succeedd…name them
If we are 9th in the nation with the worst traffic there are 8 other cities where the traffic is worse and what fixes have they implemented to correct there situation….learn from the worse…
Good Grief
August 1st, 2012
9:52 am
How could you be okay with the way TSPLOST was presented? The government “chicken counters” had numbered the eggs before they’d even been laid. What I was told, by a TSPLOST proponent, was that it was a 10-year or $8.5 Billion tax, which ever came first. So what if it went ten years but only garnered $6 Billion? Do we just tell the counties whose jobs had not been completed but had been promised that they were just SOL?
As someone mentioned the other day, when the bathroom faucet is broken, you don’t completely remodel the bathroom. A lot of the problems with traffic flow statewide can be fixed with targeted repairs.
S12C4131
August 1st, 2012
9:53 am
Brian -
Re: your comment, “Do you realize that Dallas and Charlotte have little to no rail transit?”…
Dallas has the most extensive light rail system in the United States. Thanks for doing your research.
And now to celebrate the results of this referendum, I’m going to upgrade from a SUV to a F-250. Yep, I know I’ll use it primarily for commuting; but once in a blue moon I’ll need it for haulin’ stuff! I’ve got the space for it because I live 30 miles out of the city in a 4-bedroom house worth $130,000. And let’s face it, with the F-250 I’ll look cooler to my garishly conservative friends!!
PLAN B
August 1st, 2012
9:54 am
Charlotte Braves…has a good ring to it. If Liberty Media was smart they’d move them right now to a city that cares about the future.
Hayek
August 1st, 2012
9:57 am
Road Scholar ,
Actually most transaportation experts said it was a bad deal and would do little to alleviate congestion. South Fulton and North Fulton both said NO. I would argue that the majority who said “Yes” lived in Midtown, and West Dekalb.
Chris p
August 1st, 2012
9:57 am
8 MILLION $ typo in the first line!
willie lynch
August 1st, 2012
9:58 am
While I didn’t think the TSPLOST was well conceived it was a way for the people to have a say. So what they said was NO, and now we have no say. The shortsightedness of many in this part of the country is going to be the undoing of the greatest city in the south. As the old saying goes “You can’t get something for nothing.”
TruChristian
August 1st, 2012
9:58 am
We should have gone with Sonny’s plan and prayed for roads.
Frankie
August 1st, 2012
9:59 am
road scholar this is bigger than cobb and grta buses. the legislation has let the state down by not doing enough to promote the TSPLOST…
a ball of roads on a bill board is not enough.
the people need to know how we got to this current state of gridlock and what the plan to get us out will be not throwing money at a problem in hopes it will go away.. then try and wrap jobs and businesses around the issue.
those businesses that won’t come here becauseof traffic concersn weren’t coming here last year or the year before that or the year before that…so what happened then…
the IMPROVEMENTS the GDOT has made over the last 18 years I have been here have not been enough and they knew it…piss poor planning, now you want TAX PAYERS to BAIL out the STATE AGAIN…
WHere is my BAIL out I keeppayiing more for property taxes, gas, food, rent, etc…. and no raises, no nothin….
aggravated commuter
August 1st, 2012
10:00 am
If you want to know how the roads are going to turn out now that the Governor is in charge…just ride down and observe the road quality and conjestion on West Paces Ferry Rd some weekday morning. For those of you that don’t know, that is the road where the Governors mansion sits, and guess what its constantly backed up and one of the roughest most beat up roads in all of greater Atlanta.
NO TSPLOST !!!
August 1st, 2012
10:01 am
Vote NO NO NO for TSPLOST was right…..now T-SPLAT!!!
Johns creek
August 1st, 2012
10:01 am
Plan B is what makes sense. Fix DOT, prioritize the projects, and cut the costs of construction. it is time to govern instead of raising taxes and throwing money around. MARTA has serious problems that need to be fixed before we spend more money on mass transit, including the current Fulton/Dekalb only 1% sales tax. Stop the new Falcon dome and spend the hotel tax on the belt line, if it is such a good idea.
Bryan -- MARTA supporter
August 1st, 2012
10:03 am
Here’s why the Sierra Club and NAACP (and yes I’m Black) are idiots. I completely agree that the I-20 line from Garnett through Turner Field down I-20 to Stoncrest Mall should’ve been built. Here’s the issue though: There was 225 million for bus service but MARTA also put this project on their top priority list for federal funding. The feds already made it clear that if the T-SPLOST didn’t pass that ATL would not get as much money from the transportation bill that was passed a few months ago.
So, if we would have come up with 225 million the feds would have put something toward the 1 billion dollar line (lets assume 300 million) to atleast build half of the rail line (from Garnett to Candler Rd). Lets be real, we all know the WHOLE I-20 line wouldn’t have been built at one time but atleast there would have been some rail there to serve Turner Field, Glenwood Park/East ATL, and South Dekalb ITP. Untimately the extention would have been built.
But now we have no funds at all toward the I-20 line and expect the feds to foot the whole 1 billion dollar bill? When we as a region can’t even work together to fund our own projects? So instead of giving us an opportunity to have rail to Emory which is needed, possible rail to S. Dekalb, more bus rapid transit options, more express bus options, more local bus options… we now get nothing! Oh and this just doesn’t hurt transit supporters, federal funding for roads will be cut too by the feds. GREAT JOB NO VOTERS!! Instead of getting something we now get nothing…. nothing but more toll roads and HOT lanes and projects picked and forced on us by the governor!
Bryan -- MARTA supporter
August 1st, 2012
10:06 am
@ Wutehvah August 1st, 2012 9:39 am
Again, it wasn’t set by LAW to end the tolls, it was just promised that on that date they would. I promise if you send me 100 bucks now I’ll send you 1000 later Wutehvah! Don’t keep your hand out waiting… and that’s unfortunately what government did. But once it is on a contract and is law it HAS TO BE DONE!
whiteboy
August 1st, 2012
10:07 am
@ BLAH!!! BLAH!!!! BLAH!!!!!!!….. great point….but these people are going to let fear continue to control and ruin their lives….the solution is most have to die off and that takes time….thanks to the obesity problem around here with these null brain advocates, that may happen sooner than you think…
Hayek
August 1st, 2012
10:11 am
aggravated commuter wrote:
“If you want to know how the roads are going to turn out now that the Governor is in charge…just ride down and observe the road quality and conjestion on West Paces Ferry Rd some weekday morning. For those of you that don’t know, that is the road where the Governors mansion sits, and guess what its constantly backed up and one of the roughest most beat up roads in all of greater Atlanta”
–IIRC it seems to happen every time a new multi million dollar home goes up on the street. No sense in repaving it if it’s going to get torn up 1 month later.
No New Taxes
August 1st, 2012
10:11 am
Why is it that the solution to our traffic problems to always build more roads? How about studies to look at traffic patterns outside of the metro area and divert this flow from entering the metro area? Have you looked at license plates on our interstates? Many of them are just passing thru. Getting them off the metro area interstates may be the first step. But again, these are 20th century ‘band aids’ to our problem. We really need to look at this from the view of the 21st century. Telecommuting is a great way to help relieve traffic, reduce carbon footprint, maintain a healthy workforce, and many other benefits. Granted, not all persons making the ‘daily commute’ can telecommute; however, there are quite a number who can every day or perhaps 1 or 2 times a week. Instead of raising taxes to build more roads, how about offering tax incentives for businesses with telecommuting workers? Funds for these advantages could have been seeded with the millions spent on the Pro-TSPLOST campaign; what a waste. The advantages are HUGE if the business can take advantage of a telecommuting tax break. There is not enough time or space to discuss this idea fully here. But perhaps some of our legislators are reading this and can work to make this a reality.
Bottom line, building more roads is so 20th century and adds to the noise, environmental issues, oil dependencies, the list goes on and on. We need legislators who have a brain and can think for themselves on what is right and work for the future of our children. Leave your lobbyists behind once and for all and do what is right for us, the people of Georgia.
No Taxes
August 1st, 2012
10:15 am
I luv it when I can smack the powers what be up the side of their heads with a 2 by 4!!! He he ha ha, losers, no new taxes, and reduce the existing ones. Lets vote to remove the taxes on our electricity, water, phone, natural gas, cable tv, telephone, and internet service! Stop taxing everything the public does or next time we will use real 2×4’s and a few buckets of tar and feathers!
MoneyUP
August 1st, 2012
10:15 am
The crooked nathan deal will now use this chance to get hold of billions in transportation dollars to hand out to his connected friends for road deals, land purchases, development, etc. They’ll be richer than ever–taxpayers will get hosed again with more waste and fraud—typical of this poorly run city.
Chris
August 1st, 2012
10:16 am
Atlanta, Fulton and Dekalb, let’s build our own streetcars and bike trails. F@ck the the ‘burbs, and the tea party A$$holes. Let them wallow in their own $hit.