Channel 2 poll: Support for transportation sales tax continues to slip

Lori Geary and Channel 2 Action News have posted another poll that shows support for a transportation sales tax in metro Atlanta continuing to slip – and not just among white Republican voters anymore.

The automated poll, conducted by the Republican-oriented political service firm Rosetta Stone Communications, has a 3.1 percent margin of error. Take a look at the crosstabs here. From the Channel 2 website:

The poll, conducted July 11, found only 33 percent of metro Atlantans support the referendum while 56 percent oppose the measure. Twelve percent remain undecided.

Seventy-one percent of Republicans in metro Atlanta now oppose the referendum, but only 50 percent of Democrats support the July 31 vote. Broken down by race, 47 percent of African-American supporters favor the referendum. Sixty-seven percent of white voters oppose it.

This in the face of a resumed TV campaign.

Those supporting the sales tax point out that, in a mid-summer primary, turnout is likely to be low and thus figuring out who will actually cast a ballot becomes an imprecise science. This will be about turnout, they say.

John Garst of Rosetta Stone sent the following state via email late this afternoon:

“The moment of realization has to be setting in with the business community in Atlanta. After spending millions of dollars on this campaign and seeing poll numbers drop steadily, they need to be searching for plan B.”

The survey, which was conducted on Wednesday night, sampled 1,050 pre-screened primary voters of both parties and was weighted to accurately reflect the demographic and geographic turnout.

“Due to the nature of this issue and the confusion surrounding the polling for this referendum, I invite anyone from the public, the T-Splost campaign, nervous donors or the opposition to call me and I will explain and clarify all numbers.”

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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Ga Values .................. VOTE NO FOR WASTE, GRAFT & CORRUPTION

July 13th, 2012
1:57 pm

Looks like Deal, Reed & their Cronies are going to look elsewhere to line their pockets..

Marlboro Man

July 13th, 2012
2:08 pm

Untie the knot, traffic is killing jobs. Wasted time, gas and productivity, untie the knot.

Hilton Spence

July 13th, 2012
2:20 pm

People don’t trust the governor after the 400 extension. AN ABSOLUTE LIAR, and then he smugly smiles – exactly what a republican does best. And, what a disappointment Kasim Reed has been.
I’m a lifelong Democrat, but I’d vote this time for a MEAN-ASS republican for mayor and get this city going again.How about Guillani(I can’t believe I’m saying that). Our chance of becoming great has passed, with the likes of Bill, Shirley, and now Kasim. Getting rich of the parking situation Shirley?

Jesus, who would stand a chance in the city?

Marlboro Woman

July 13th, 2012
2:20 pm

Another one cent sales tax will make Atlanta too expensive to live in. That will stop companies from moving here if they look at cost of living.

tim

July 13th, 2012
2:26 pm

Glad they didn’t poll me about actress wanna be Monica Pearson. She’s the worst. Glad she’s going.

The WORST! BYE BYE MONICAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

TanaciousD

July 13th, 2012
2:27 pm

this is one SPLOST i will not vote for. I have voted for most.

Centrist

July 13th, 2012
2:28 pm

It was never popular, even though this blog said it was and the opposition was disorganized. Much of the metro Atlanta area is going to hopefully have enough turnout to reject the boondoggle, and would reflect badly on those who put it together and continue to support it. Those supporting it on the July 31st primary (think Beach), are in trouble despite AJC support for both.

Turnout will be critical, and no doubt the liberals, companies, bureaucrats, and politicians with family and friends who will gain will be out in force.

Ghost

July 13th, 2012
2:30 pm

I wonder why race has come into this. I can definitely see it being a left-wing/right-wing thing. But divided amongst color lines?

I’m against it and I’m black, in case anyone is keeping score. Tell them to do something with the money they’re receiving now instead of asking for more for “studies.”

lol

July 13th, 2012
2:30 pm

enough taxes!

lj

July 13th, 2012
2:31 pm

READ MY LIPS NO MORE TAXES YOU GOT IT DEAL, REED, ETC.

Poor Idea

July 13th, 2012
2:32 pm

I will vote NO for a simple reason. The ONE THING that would have done the most to alleviate traffic problems in the NE suburbs was not included. They should have included a MARTA extension into Gwinnett, ending at (minimally) Discover Mills and (ideally) Mall of Georgia.

The fact that it was not included tells me the whole scheme was not serious.

Joel

July 13th, 2012
2:34 pm

I find it interesting that we have to look at race or political leaning models. The question is do you want the government to take more of your money for any reason and use it as they believe is best, versus you use it as you believe is best? I always find it interesting when we look at the measurements of how people weigh it and wonder what the real motativator of anyone that wants the government to say how my money and this is my money since is it a sales tax should be spent. Remember that gallon of milk (average 3 per gallon will add 3 cents to its end cost).

drsoul

July 13th, 2012
2:35 pm

There needs to be a thorough cleaning of the DOT to begin with, then we need to find people who are both QUALIFIED and INTERESTED in stewardship of money and quality production of projects…this all around is one of the most corrupt areas of government in Georgia… Deal and Reed both are nothing but ’self-promoters’ with no real interest in accomplishment….words with no substance from both of them… SPLOST is just another in a long line of examples of poor or no real planning, too many fingers in the pie, corrupt ideals and a huge misleading of the public in how all of this REALLY plays out… anyone who would vote for this only votes a sign of ignorance for themselves and another notch down for Georgia… this is a great time for the citizenry to rise and start ridding our state government of waste and people who are serving for the wrong reasons…
SUFA NO MORE…(Stand Up for Atlanta…suffer no more)…

Kris

July 13th, 2012
2:36 pm

Yow did Delta get exempt from the NO sp-LOST tax before there was a No Lost tax? Or did Delta and some of the other cronies get exempt.. GA Doing Business with our hard earned DOLLARS.
“delta/ dirty DEAL….

Vote NO on sp-LOST (politician pocket lining tax. Just the cost when when the Govt is so corrupt).

Greg

July 13th, 2012
2:37 pm

I will never trust any temporary sales tax that this state comes up with. We were lied to every time, advalorem tax, Ga 400 toll, now you have a freaking pay lane on an already paid for I-85 I am a democrat but the state and metro counties have squandered too much splost money already!

ken

July 13th, 2012
2:38 pm

The facts are that We the People do not trust the politicians of this state nor the fine folks who gave us the Peach Pass lanes.

You get no more of my money.

me

July 13th, 2012
2:38 pm

NO FOR T-SLPOST!!! the tax that will NEVER go away… Look at 400 people!!

Manicmechanic

July 13th, 2012
2:38 pm

When it doesn’t pass, the proponents will act like children. Trying again year after year after year to push something that should become a dead issue for 5 years at least. A child will ask over and over and over again until they get their way or the parent finally puts their foot down HARD. Then they cry and blame all their problems on you since you said no. Happens all the time. Whoever loses, let’s be good losers and not really bad losers (blame it all on the other side).

sambo

July 13th, 2012
2:40 pm

sambos votes no not one red penny.

DannyX

July 13th, 2012
2:41 pm

Centrist is right, the AJC is in love with our conservative Republican state government. Republicans must be crazy because their TSPLOST plan sure is. Deal supports this plan. Powerful state legislators like Chip Rogers voted for this bird brain Republican plan.

How can you trust the GOP leadership in this state? They are all ethically challenged. Deal, Balfour, Ralston and Rogers have all exhibited horrible ethics.

Plan B will have to be a Chip Rogers Loan. The Republicans can borrow 8 billion for transportation projects then claim the state could never pay it back.

Do the Math

July 13th, 2012
2:41 pm

The increase of 1 penny from 7% tax to an 8% sales tax is a %12.5 increase in taxes. Please don’t fall for the “just a 1 penny increase” line.

TDub

July 13th, 2012
2:42 pm

Yeah, taxes, boo. What have they ever done for us? Except for funding the military, roads, sewers, police, firemen, public schools… We have to start somewhere with traffic in metro Atlanta and no one else has come up with a plan. The status quo is unacceptable with our rate of growth. We have to start somewhere. There is no perfect plan.

oh no

July 13th, 2012
2:44 pm

We need outside third parties to help solve out traffic issues. There are way too many counties and cities in the metro area that want to benefit their area the most. There no sense of regionalism in politics, it’s all local. Either have more local splost votes instead of the regional tsplost or become more regional in politics overall. All of these county lines and city boundaries are screwing so many things up.

JANICE

July 13th, 2012
2:45 pm

I DO NOT SUPPORT IT BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE IT WILL HAPPEN AN THEY SAY. I have an idea…………..take any raises from all of Georgia’s politicians and that just might cover a great deal of the cost.

JUSITNE ISME

July 13th, 2012
2:47 pm

NO. NO NO is the only answer. I live in DeKalb and I have paid the extra penny since its inception. All the time I have seen MARTA resources directed to the northside. But that is not the only problem. Atlanta has to learn. MASS TRANSIT DOES NOT MEAN WIDER HIGHWAYS. The Metro area needs to look at Boston, NYC, DC and that entire corridor. A person can actually live in New Jersey and commute every day to DC, NYC or almost anywhere in between..

Yes the Metro Atlanta area is loosing business opportunities because of the transportation issue. But that has to do with the lack of public transportation which is not realistically addressed in this referendum.

There needs to be a combination of light rail, buses and trains to connect Metro Atlanta to Macon, Collubus, Savannah, Chattanooga, and Carrolton.

Centrist

July 13th, 2012
2:47 pm

Waited for the required time and number of posts to mention another subject -

Yesterday Obama gutted the Workfare (TANF) law that President Clinton supported and signed into law. The MSM, of course, ignored this. In the past, bureaucrats attempted to define activities such as hula dancing, attending Weight Watchers, and bed rest as “work.” These dodges were blocked by the federal work standards. Now, the Obama Administration has abolished those standards, and we can expect “work” in the TANF program to mean anything but work. The new welfare dictate issued by the Obama Administration clearly guts the law, which is a liberal’s dream come true.

GDawg

July 13th, 2012
2:47 pm

After the “fix” the transportation department laid on Atlanta with the taking 1 lane of I-85 and making it a toll lane to improve traffic, and did it despite the disaster it turned out to be or listen to what commuters had to say … I will have an extremely hard time voting for any transportation cost.

Greg

July 13th, 2012
2:47 pm

Well If its on the ballot year after year I will vote NO! year after year

GAtor

July 13th, 2012
2:49 pm

Any person that has driven to work in the metro Atlanta could tell you how desperately we need some help in solving this traffic mess. I don’t think this T-SPLOST is the cure all, but it damn sure beats doing absolutely nothing.

Greg

July 13th, 2012
2:49 pm

Although the GA. public said no to peach lanes our voice wasn’t heard and it was shoved down our throats. The result is worst traffic than ever on I-85 and ever increasing tolls to drive in it.

Marlboro Man

July 13th, 2012
2:50 pm

A no vote will be worse for your pocketbook, just watch.

Red

July 13th, 2012
2:51 pm

You ask why is race mentioned? Mass transit is mandated for over half the money collected. MARTA has become a political weapon and tool used in the African American community and mass transit will be included. This mandated portion was intended as bait to lure an entire demographic into supporting this. The middle class suburban white baited with the whole “this helps your commute and to stop traffic” line. There are little crumbs used by a corrupt power under the Gold Dome to line their pockets…all in the name of jobs, stopping traffic, and free or low cost mass transit.

Greg

July 13th, 2012
2:51 pm

The crooked Secretary of State even put a pre emblum on the ballots to try and sway voters by saying it will create jobs and reduce traffic, If that’s not illegal what is.

No New Taxes- Get rid of old taxes!

July 13th, 2012
2:52 pm

Good commnets above from Ghost and others. This may be a Republican plan, but look what happens when you run this by Republican voters- we vote NO! that is how Repub/conservatives operate- we will stand up and say NO and our leaders will take their whipping and adjsut their attitudes. Do the Math has it right- a 12.5% increase at minimum and a 14% increase if you current tax is 6% (gwinnett county). Gov’t has more than enough money- give money back to citizen and make do with what is left. GOVT is the problem, NOT the solution.

Greg

July 13th, 2012
2:54 pm

It will take more than 10 years to pay those projects off and they will be asking for more taxes.

Greg

July 13th, 2012
2:55 pm

My wallet is already light so,,,,, NO<NO<NO<NO

Truth

July 13th, 2012
2:55 pm

The big lie is that this is just a one cent tax. That is BS. Those supporting the bill want you to think it’s only a one cent tax so people will support it. The fact is, this is a one cent (percent) tax per $1.00 spent PER ITEM! So, if you bought one item costing $100, the tax you will pay is $1.00 and not a penny. If you bought five items that cost $100 each ($500), then you are paying $5.00 tax ($1.00 tax for each of the five items).

Think about how many items you buy, from food, clothes, etc. It’s estimated that all this added up will cost the average person anywhere from 15% to 21% tax hike!! That is more than one cents folks!!

Also, it’s already proven that most of the so called projects the state wants to start are under estimated in this tax and will also take longer to complete than the 10 years allowed for this tax. So, what happens, they come back after 10 years and say we need more tax money to complete these projects and so this BS continues with no END insight!

Wake up and vote NO!

mark

July 13th, 2012
2:55 pm

So the bottom line is, if we don’t pass T-SPLOST, where are we going to get the money to fix Metro Atlanta’s traffic problems? Does anybody believe that the legislature is going to reallocate money from their pet projects to build the roads and transit that we’ve already needed for the last 20 years to handle all the population growth that’s already happened?? And you know they won’t vote to raise income or gas taxes. Come on. It’s only a penny for every dollar you spend… You could save that much just not having to sit in traffic while your car burns gas!!

Old timer

July 13th, 2012
2:56 pm

Another no vote

Roekest

July 13th, 2012
2:56 pm

I thought was Rosetta Stone was supposed to help us learn a new language?

NOW I’M JUST CONFUSED!

Vote NO July 31. Don’t know for what, just vote NO.

No New Taxes- Get rid of old taxes!

July 13th, 2012
2:57 pm

By the way, T-plost loses big and in November Obama will be handed a HUGE defeat! If you are honest with yourself, look at the state of the country, ignore the main stream media, you will see Obama is ex-president walking! Take heart conservatives, this BS is over. Oh, and liberals will be much better off under romney, though they will not admit it. Too eat up with rage at others who make better choices, too guilty about the unborn they have disposed of. Oh yes, it is all about guilt and approval of a freaked out set of values.

Greg

July 13th, 2012
2:57 pm

GA. knew years ago that the population was growing in leaps and bounds and refused to act. Use hotel taxes like you plan on doing for a billion dollar stadium we dont need.

checking math

July 13th, 2012
2:57 pm

Do the Math – I like the way you put that. People hear “penny sales tax” and think “well, surely i can afford a penny” but no one buys anything for a dollar anymore. People need to think bigger. A car that costs $15,000 equates to $16,050 with a 7% sales tax. With an 8% sales tax, we’re talking, $16,200. That’s a $150 increase. Not a penny. I’m not sure whether it’s a 12.5% or a 14.28% tax increase, but regardless, it is an increase, and people need to know what they’re signing up for. The progressive way to alleviate traffic is to expand MARTA and make more commuter friendly options. And for the record, I really am not looking forward to seeing that streetcar on Peachtree.

NoThanks

July 13th, 2012
2:57 pm

Billions for governments to give to their special interest friends. No thanks.

TSPLAAAT

July 13th, 2012
2:59 pm

TSPLOST is brought to you by the same geniuses who converted the I-85 carpool lane to a pay lane. Giving these fools $7billion should be a jailable offense.

Crazy Like A Fox

July 13th, 2012
3:02 pm

Most of the projects are not necessary at this point. It’s all smoke and mirrors to pour tons of money into mass transit. The data I have seen does not warrant building or extending any new lines. This is nothing more than pandering to minorities with money seized from the productive to pay them reparations for past wrongs. Welcome to Obama’s (hope you like your change) America.

Boo Yah

July 13th, 2012
3:03 pm

I was excited about this in the early stages and would have voted yes. However, once the transit projects were taken out (Marta extension into Cobb County) and many more transit projects for that matter, my vote will be a no. Im a Cobb resident and I work downtown….and would LOVE to take the train to work in the morning. As a life long Metro Atlanta resident, i’m tired of us spending money on roads and not mass transit. No wonder why the rest of the country looks at us as being so backward!

No New Taxes- Get rid of old taxes!

July 13th, 2012
3:03 pm

Marlboro Man- Keep smoking what you got. gov’t gets no more $. ha-ha, expect me to vote to raise my own taxes, you gotta be kidding!

drsoul

July 13th, 2012
3:04 pm

mark….you and others seem to have a dim understanding and a very apathetic view of the situation…what can we do…VOTE these idiots out at the ballot box… the majority voice of people will make a difference, but this old attitude of ’so what, nothing will change’ is winning every time… YOU will become more part of the problem that the solution with your kind of analysis…. it is time for people to stand up and start protesting in every way… why fix something half way only to ask for more money and go through this again???? let’s put some people in there who can get the right help and do it efficiently… WE ARE THE VOICE OF GOVERNMENT, CITIZENS, but you have to get off your lazy A$$ and do something more than whine…!!!