Transportation tax foes plan a rolling protest on I-285

One measure of opposition to the transportation sales tax in metro Atlanta will come on Saturday, July 21, when tax foes intend to stage a rolling protest on I-285. From TrafficTruth.net:

We are planning a demonstration that everyone and anyone can participate in. We call it ” Lights for Liberty Drive”

We will all converge on to 285 outer loop at 10am on Saturday morning July 21st and go counter clockwise for 2 loops or about 2 hours. We should drive the speed limit in the center lane with our flashers on. Please don’t impede traffic. We only want positive coverage. We are hoping to have hundreds of cars on the loop at the same time, coming in from all directions at the same time. Set up a caravan if we can from your area. Display signage or decorate your car in protest to the NEW TAX and send a message that we do not support it!

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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mike

July 12th, 2012
12:46 pm

If they’re going the speed limit on 285, that’s impeding the flow and is worse than occupiers camping out.

Bruce Spengler

July 12th, 2012
12:47 pm

So, their purpose is to demonstrate how congested traffic will be if we all vote No?

td

July 12th, 2012
12:48 pm

Although I am planning on voting no, if these fools impede my travels then I will give them the proper sign as I pass them.

Gene

July 12th, 2012
12:49 pm

The irresponsibility on behalf of those against the T-SPLOST is astounding. People like Vincent Fort are using this issue are using this issue to settle personal grudges while they lead their people off a cliff.

Pledge

July 12th, 2012
12:50 pm

Vote YES on the T-SPLOST. I hope these idiots get arrested.

Fairness

July 12th, 2012
1:00 pm

I am voting no on T-SPLOST, because the the only knot that is going to get untied will that of the taxpayers in the ten county area. Remember, the government does not create jobs, that’s done by the private sector, according to many supporters of this bill.

Kris

July 12th, 2012
1:01 pm

Reminder to the protesters.

Turn Off Your Phone, Please Watch Your Driving
Do not TEXT , you might get a ticket (in GA cavity search in possible).
If you can drive on I-285 and stay within 10 mph of the posted speed limit, thanks for protesting.
I pray you survive to VOTE NO

Last Man Laying Down

July 12th, 2012
1:03 pm

I haven’t made up my mind as yet on T-SPLOST, but I “tire” easily from the debate. I don’t like the idea of a “rolling roadblock” to “signal” opposition. Perhaps they should put the “brakes” on this notion recharge their “batteries” and instead put up some Don’t “Tread” On Me signs. I know it’s dry, but I only have so much time to eat lunch and typing takes away from that.

Proud Voter

July 12th, 2012
1:05 pm

Oh, great. Another stupid event for Georgia on CNN. We really need this negative publicity. I, too, hope they all get arresed.

We must vote for t-splost and at least give Georgia a chance to enter the twenty-first century with futuristic ambitions for our transportation woes.

To the naysayers: I hope the rolling roadblock keeps you from going to the polls!

Really?

July 12th, 2012
1:07 pm

This has the intelligent factor of -120!! Vote yes on T-Splost,we need to keep Atl moving!

Carole

July 12th, 2012
1:07 pm

If I could wrap my brain around wasting two hours of gas I’d join them. But I live on a fixed income–mine.

Bill from Atlanta

July 12th, 2012
1:17 pm

You t supporters must be on another planet because your ignorant of the past lies, thievery and waste this state has conducted with transportation proceeds.
Or maybe ya’ll must be part of the bunch that will be lining their pockets if this passes.

Danny O

July 12th, 2012
1:20 pm

I-285 is 64 miles long. Assuming the average protestor gets 30 mpg, they will each burn about 4.25 gallons of gasoline for their protest. Assuming a cost of $3.25/gallon, each protestor will spend $13.81 on gas.

Old Hippie

July 12th, 2012
1:21 pm

What idiocy! Driving the speed limit on the perimeter will only slow down traffic and prove how bad Atlanta traffic is, and how much we need to improve our transportation systems.

Baron Dekalb

July 12th, 2012
1:27 pm

I am also unsure about how or whether to vote on this issue. The entire state benefits from the economic and cultural engine that Metro Atlanta represents, yet legislators are too cheap or short-sighted to make the necessary investments to keep a real city going. It seems to me that these improvements–as well as an expansion of service and reduction in fares on MARTA–should be funded from the state level, with the goal of improving our shared enviroment and attracting new businesses.

Steve

July 12th, 2012
1:28 pm

There’s a speed limit on 285?

Danny O

July 12th, 2012
1:38 pm

Everyone should be aware that if TSPLOST fails, then the region faces a financial penalty. Any region that votes the referendum down has to match state maintenance and improvement grants at a 30% rate rather than 10% rate. 30/70 split is a lot higher than 10/90. See OCGA 48-8-244(d).

Tom

July 12th, 2012
1:48 pm

There’s a speed limit on 285?

Yes…..determined by each vehicle’s manufacturer. :-Þ

GaNative

July 12th, 2012
1:54 pm

Bill from Atlanta–Your argument’s logical conclusion is that we should never invest in a transportation project again. Say good bye to keeping up with the rest of the country. This is simply unacceptable and shows that you and most other naysayers have ZERO plan for addressing this problem.

Baron DeKalb–this is the only way to keep dollars taxed in Atlanta to stay in Atlanta for transportation projects. That was one of the big drivers (pun intended) behind this idea, and why it is essential for moderninzing Metro Atlanta’s transportation infrastructure.

Shar

July 12th, 2012
2:18 pm

I have already voted no, but this rolling protest idea is foolishly counterproductive as the posters above have noted.

The reasons to vote against this tax are that the government collecting it and spending it is deeply corrupt, that the most optimistic projection shows up to a 6% drop in commute times for select north/south commuters in ten years IF no increase in traffic loads happens before then, that the 15% going to the counties is undirected and a slush fund, that the immediate jobs have already been assigned in backroom deals to the lawyers, financial people and “consultants” who are salivating to bill out open-ended studies and litigation at hundreds of dollars per hour and who are bankrolling the Chamber’s strong-arm campaign of employee intimidation, electioneering on the actual ballot and advertising untruths, and finally because the major projections require a THIRTY year tax, not a ten year one.

Reasons to vote for? You’re a developer who has bought land affected by the projects or you are one of those lawyers, finance people or consultants. No one who actually wants transit in and through the metro area should even consider a yes vote.

Bob Loblaw

July 12th, 2012
2:20 pm

The blockade will anger so many people that it will become a story and the irony, that folks against a tax for transportation created a traffic jam, won’t be lost.

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Three Jack

July 12th, 2012
2:26 pm

What happens when a group decides to protest by driving speed limit on I285 — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B-Ox0ZmVIU

Very dumb idea is you actually want people to support your cause.

Marlboro Man

July 12th, 2012
2:41 pm

Traffic is killing jobs, Untie the Knot.

Frankie

July 12th, 2012
2:56 pm

Traffice is not the only culpret killing jobs…employera are killing themselves…
I work for a company that was located 20 minutes (in traffic) from my home. they decided that they would move closer to the presidents home and away from our main CLIENTS…some 40 miles away. Now my commute is 100 mile round trio or 3 – 4 hours per day commuting…and yes I am looking for another job…

I won’t be voting for the TSPLOST…too much waste fulness of my money as it is.

There is no information to prove that the tax and improvement will actual improve the flow of traffic anywhere in Atlanta.one accident and its over.
You would better served to teach people how to drive

Frankie

July 12th, 2012
3:02 pm

we should take steps to untie atlanta traffic but the improvemnts they have listed I do not see that as an improvement. not even a right step.
We lost touch when the housing boom was in effect.

For example…Wade walker park just built a state of the art aquatic center on rock bridge road and stone mounain – lthonia rd…NO IMPROVEMENT TO THE ROAD WAS DONE….there is a traffice jam there every day. You have two lanes (200 feet)the merge into one right at the entrance turn. The smart thing would hav been to out a real turning lane there and extend the second lane another quarter mile.
Peopl are so stupid that they get over into the far right lane trying to beat the traffic off the light then move over two lane to the left to turn into the aquatic center….
and the cops on site don’t help anything just add to delays..

explosive offensive line

July 12th, 2012
3:09 pm

Please vote NO to corruption and more wasted tax money.

Simeon B.

July 12th, 2012
3:12 pm

I see this going really well… not.

So, they are going to:

1. Drive the speed limit on 285. Good, lets cause congestion on 285 when there is no congestion to protest a tax that would like to minimize congestion in Metro Atlanta.

2. Drive with their “flashers” on. Illegal and dumb. If you ever have to put your “flashers” on while driving, your car better have just caught fire and you are trying to get to an emergency lane. If you do this when it’s raining hard you should not be allowed to drive. Ever.

3. Decorate your car. Are we going to do an over/under on the time it takes one of these decorations to fly off and cause an accident?

4. Lights of Liberty. How about call it the Hardly-can-see-the-Amber-”Flashers”-of-Liberty-in-the-Daylight?

Please stay home and don’t screw up the rare time in the Metro Atlanta area that there is not congestion.

Not Me!

July 12th, 2012
3:26 pm

I’m a Republican but I’ve left the Tea Party. You can’t just say NO, people. What do you stand for? When we have no infrastructure and a crumpling system, you’ll sit back and say “We Won!” Great, good for rule. You’ll rule over a 3rd class state. Way to go. Thanks for nothing.

Common Sense

July 12th, 2012
3:40 pm

Vote no on this largest increase in taxes in Georgia History.

Are we going to be paying more for empty buses like we see running up and down the roads in North Fulton County?

And when they say we spent all these dollars, and we see no improvement, give us more! are we going to keep writing even more checks for these wasted projects?

Just how many studies and millions of dollars have been spent on the northern part of I-285?

Remember when they installed all those cameras along 400 and 141 and said that they were going to be used to improve traffic light timing? What happened? Nothing.

The fastest way to imrprove traffic is to improve the skills of those driving on the roads. Stricter driving tests. Harsher enforcement of those that change lanes at the very last second to use an exit.

Teach some folks the proper way to merge onto the interstate. Teach some people that you don’t just pull out in front of other cars, forcing them to slow down because you did not want to wait.

Start school early-before rush hour, or later, after rush hour. There’s your single biggest impediment to morning commutes.

East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)

July 12th, 2012
3:42 pm

And when they are done, they all plan to meet at the Golden Corral buffet to raise awareness for obesity.

Baron Dekalb

July 12th, 2012
3:51 pm

“Common Sense:” the fastest way to improve traffic would be for Georgians to commit to carpooling and mass transit, which would also have the benefits of reducing pollution and traffic fatalities. Unfortuntely, most Georgians are too selfish and short-sighted to realize this, so maybe a tax increase is in order. All of your “common sense” suggestions about how to improve traffic amount to nothing more than pathetic rearrangement of the deck chairs on a rapidly sinking ocean liner.

Junior Samples

July 12th, 2012
3:59 pm

Yes, let’s show all the future businesses who are contemplating moving to Atlanta that we don’t want to invest in our infrastructure.
Great plan.

Road Scholar

July 12th, 2012
4:02 pm

Simeon: 3 B That debris which falls off the car becomes litter. I guess they think that the litter will mysteriously disappear for free!

East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)

July 12th, 2012
4:09 pm

“Harsher enforcement of those that change lanes at the very last second to use an exit”
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That would require the hiring (and training) of many more police officers plus the cars they would drive. Also additional judges and prosecutors to process the caseload across multiple jurisdictions. Could get expensive. Fines alone would not cover the costs. How to pay for it? How about a penny regional sales tax voted on by all the voters.

PS Did someone cut you off this morning?

Common Sense

July 12th, 2012
4:11 pm

Baron Dekalb,

If you want to car pool do so. Want mass transit, take it. But outside of two hours in the moring and two in the evening where you slow, how much are you wanting to spend to eliminate the time between an ideal commute and an average commute.

We have plenty of taxation methods ALREADY to collect funds for improvements.

I can drive from North Fulton County to the airport faster than anyone can take mass transit under the best conditions. But if you feel good waiting for the bus to take you to wait for the train, then by all means do so.

But at least be willing to pay for what it costs to transport YOU in that case. Do not rely on a subsidy from the rest of us.

The selfish amongst us are those that are looking at the wallets of others for their answers. I do not work every day for your benefit.

East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)

July 12th, 2012
4:20 pm

The selfish amongst us are those that refuse to contribute their fair share for the common good, of which they also reap benefits.

This is pathetic

July 12th, 2012
4:24 pm

So this will 1) waste gas 2) pollute 3) make traffic worse 4) achieve nothing

great. VOTE YES.

JR in Mableton

July 12th, 2012
4:24 pm

That sounds incredibly dangerous!!! Ask yourself this question…..why do funeral processions hire off duty police to escort their procession??

GDOT engineer

July 12th, 2012
4:24 pm

Common Sense: We didn’t install cameras on GA 400 to improve traffic light timing. It’s a freeway.

DJ Sniper

July 12th, 2012
4:30 pm

T-SPLOST isn’t perfect by any means, but the short sightedness by our elected officials and a lot of the people who live here is why Atlanta is in this position to begin with.

Common Sense

July 12th, 2012
4:31 pm

Reallu GDOT engineer? So there was no incentive to have the exit and on ramps timed to get cars from backing up into the main thoroughfare?

Now how smart was that?

Baron Dekalb

July 12th, 2012
4:41 pm

“Common Sense”: No form of transportation has been subsidized more than the automobile. That’s the reason that it seems so much more efficient to you. You and other car drivers have been the beneficiaries of some of the most lavish indulgences of tax dollars and it’s time to start steering some dollars towards more responsible, long-term solutions that benefit all Georgia citizens, not just those who can afford a private automobile. Some of us have other concerns on our mind besides how long it takes you to get to the airport.

Jimmy62

July 12th, 2012
4:41 pm

They lost me when they lied about ending the 400 toll. I will never again trust the local governments with extra money for transportation because they’ve proven again and again that they are dishonest scum who will say anything it takes to get more money, and then not follow through on any promises.

When the 400 toll ends and everyone involved is out of office, then maybe I will consider supporting more money for transportation. It’s not that I don’t think we could use it, I just don’t trust the people involved due to their documented history of being straight out liars.

Jimmy62

July 12th, 2012
4:44 pm

JR in Mableton: You should rephrase that and instead of hire, use the word bribe.

They are bribing off-duty police officers to use their police power to favor the people paying them money over other citizens. That’s a bribe and should be illegal, just like the churches and businesses that hire off-duty cops to use their police power to favor their members/employees over other citizens using the same roads. Bribery by any definition of the word I can find.

North resident

July 12th, 2012
4:58 pm

Someone wrote: So, their purpose is to demonstrate how congested traffic will be if we all vote No?

No. To show that NONE of the transportation improvements in the TSPLOST is going to relieve the congestion on 285. People are going to vote on 8 billion to transportation that admittedly will do nothing for MOST commuters.

Robert

July 12th, 2012
5:00 pm

The sad truth is we have seen repeatedly we cannot trust these people to do what they say they will do. Clearly show us how the money will be spent then we will vote for the tax.

North resident

July 12th, 2012
5:10 pm

You and other car drivers have been the beneficiaries of some of the most lavish indulgences of tax dollars and it’s time to start steering some dollars towards more responsible, long-term solutions that benefit all Georgia citizens, not just those who can afford a private automobile

99% of Georgians use automobiles. Therefore, spending money on roads will benefit 99% of Georgians. Maybe 1% will use transit. Therefore, spending money on transit will NOT benefit “all of Georgia citizens”.

Here is a little story: 10 yeas ago, I worked for HP at Perimeter center. We had people fly in from Europe and stay at Chamblee Dunwoody extended stay for a couple months for training. They needed to go ONE EXIT, about TWO MILES, to work. They tried to take MARTA, but it took over an hour and a half to go down into Atlanta and come back out to Perimeter center. Because they were given only enough money for transit, they ended up pooling all of their transit money and renting a car.

MARTA doesn’t go where people need to go in a timely fashion. One should not have to commute three hours a day on MARTA to go up one exit on I-285.

p.s. The Beltline expenditures will not help congestion one iota.

DJ Sniper

July 12th, 2012
5:20 pm

MARTA probably would go to much better places if the idiots who run this state had done better planning years ago. Of course, you can’t forget the racist rednecks who voted to keep MARTA out of their counties, and we all know why they did that.

Ga Values .................. VOTE NO FOR WASTE, GRAFT & CORRUPTION

July 12th, 2012
5:30 pm

the name says it ALL