Your morning jolt: Splitting with governor, Chip Rogers to condemn transportation sales tax

You don’t normally see a politician voluntarily tying his contest to another, but Senate Majority Leader Chip Rogers, R-Woodstock, apparently feel his re-election bid is doing well enough to break with tradition.

Rogers is expected to condemn the proposed metro Atlanta transportation sales tax as a major tax increase in a news conference to be held within the hour, according to the Associated Press. That would put him in public opposition to Gov. Nathan Deal, who has been talking up the sales tax – and has endorsed Rogers in his GOP primary contest against Brandon Beach of north Fulton County.

Last year, Georgia lawmakers – Rogers among them — voted to allow 12 regions throughout the state to ask residents whether to approve a 1-cent sales tax hike to fund a pre-approved list of projects. Rogers was a non-voting member of the executive committee that produced the project list that will be voted on July 31.

Rogers and Beach meet at 7 p.m. Tuesday for a debate at the Crooked Creek Homeowners Association club house 14250 Creek Club Drive in Milton. I’ll be one of two moderators. Former secretary of state Karen Handel will be the other.

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At the congressional level, Republicans are actively attempting to tie their Democratic opponents to President Barack Obama. Hence we have Republicans in the 12th District congressional campaign speaking of the Obama-Barrow health care overhaul – even though U.S. Rep. John Barrow, D-Augusta, voted against the measure.

In Cobb County, Bill Byrne, attempting to return to his old job as Cobb County commission chairman, is experimenting to see whether the same tactic can help him in a Republican primary. From a Marietta Daily Journal profile by Jon Gillooly:

Former county chairman Bill Byrne has run a campaign seeking to define incumbent Tim Lee as representing the liberal interests of Atlanta over the conservative leadership he wants to see in Cobb County.

“I sincerely believe Tim Lee is a mirror image of Barack Obama and that Obama’s policies have placed this country in peril, and the voters are going to have to make a decision as to which direction our country is going to go,” Byrne said in a Friday interview. “Tim Lee has done the same thing in Cobb County…”

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State Rep. Doug Collins, R-Gainesville, will be the July 20 beneficiary of a rare fundraiser featuring former U.S. senator and Gov. Zell Miller. And House Speaker David Ralston for good measure. Tickets are going for $250 a head.

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According to TVNewser, in a Saturday interview with CNN promoting his new CainTV network, former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said one of the stars of his new Internet TV, a homeless man named Lou, had died. Recently. “Passed away suddenly last week,” Cain said.

In fact, as CNN reported the next day, Lewis Brown, a former basketball star, died last September. From Cain’s operation: “In retrospect, we regret that we did not keep in touch with Brown on a more regular basis.”

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CBS News continues to plow ground in the behind-the-scenes story of Chief Justice John Roberts’ role in the U.S. Supreme Court decision to uphold President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul:

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By now you may have heard that New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie will be in down next week for a Mitt Romney fund-raiser also hosted by Gov. Nathan Deal. See the invite here.

With Mitt Romney’s announcement that he raised $106.1 million in June, news organizations paid special attention to series of high-end fundraisers that the Republican presidential contender held on Long Island on Sunday. From the New York Times:

Mr. Romney, who amassed a fortune as a private equity executive, seemed sensitive to the imagery of the presumptive Republican nominee spending a day raising money in some of the most exclusive corners of the Hamptons. In remarks to about 250 donors inside a giant white tent on Mr. Sobel’s property, Mr. Romney pointedly acknowledged the financial comfort of those around him.

“If you are here, by and large, you are doing just fine,” he said, his voice audible to a reporter standing on a public street not far away. “I don’t spend a lot of time worrying about those here. I spend a lot of time worrying about those that are poor and those in the middle class that are finding it hard to make a bright future for themselves.”

And yet some of those attending did not hew to the same messaging discipline. From the Los Angeles Times:

A money manager in a green Jeep said it was time for Romney to “up his game and be more reactive.” So far, said the donor (who would not give his name because he said it would hurt his business), Romney has had a “very timid offense.”

A New York City donor a few cars back, who also would not give her name, said Romney needed to do a better job connecting. “I don’t think the common person is getting it,” she said from the passenger seat of a Range Rover stamped with East Hampton beach permits. “Nobody understands why Obama is hurting them.

“We’ve got the message,” she added. “But my college kid, the baby sitters, the nails ladies — everybody who’s got the right to vote — they don’t understand what’s going on. I just think if you’re lower income — one, you’re not as educated, two, they don’t understand how it works, they don’t understand how the systems work, they don’t understand the impact.”

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The AJC’s Politifact Georgia today takes a look at President Barack Obama’s claim that the federal government has made investments in science and technology inventing the products that led to the creation of Google.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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169 comments Add your comment

Erik

July 9th, 2012
9:58 am

Politics makes strange bedfellows. I happen to agree with Chip Rogers on this one.

clyde

July 9th, 2012
10:03 am

I personally think Rogers lost his mind.

Ga Values .................. VOTE NO FOR WASTE, GRAFT & CORRUPTION

July 9th, 2012
10:08 am

Hell just froze over I agree with Rogers. He must be cut out of the graft from the beltline, Reed & Deal’s corrupt cronise don’t want to share the graft.

Ga Values .................. VOTE NO FOR WASTE, GRAFT & CORRUPTION

July 9th, 2012
10:10 am

Hell just froze over I agree with Rogers. He must be cut out of the graft from the beltline, Reed & Deal’s corrupt cronies don’t want to share the graft.

BIg Hat

July 9th, 2012
10:14 am

When is 9 months like 9 hours or 9 days or 9 weeks or 9 other lies that come out of Cain’s mouth every 9 minutes? 9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9.

Proud Voter

July 9th, 2012
10:19 am

Again? If it isn’t Chip Rogers idea, then he’s going to oppose it, whether it’s a good idea of someone else’s or not. Rogers wants to fund transportation by making all roads into toll roads and then his “supporters” can make money from it. He and his political ilk want transportation and education to be privately funded. I vote against Chip Rogers.

MARTA Rida

July 9th, 2012
10:24 am

Can we just cut Cherokee County from the metro and let them go back to being backwoods?

Ben The Independent

July 9th, 2012
10:24 am

Rogers voted to have the opportunity to vote on the sales tax and then campaigns against it. I don’t get the logic here??

Anyone But Chip

July 9th, 2012
10:25 am

Jim, I think you may have the reason for the split with Deal wrong. In fact, I think it may be the exact opposite. Chip Rogers is feeling the heat in his district on several fronts, enough to even get out and (gasp) go door to door for support. Chip’s reversal is more about shoring up his flank to ensure that he can’t be questioned on his “Taxpayers Best Friend” tagline as he originally voted to support sending the question to the public. With the debate scheduled for tomorrow, the timing suggests he’s going to get heat on these issues and wants a steady leg of support in at least one area. Please make sure to explore the question during the debate of local control vs school choice and the imposed “litmus test” on a school board that made a fiscally responsible decision rather than kowtowing to a Republican plank.

td

July 9th, 2012
10:27 am

It would be nice if Jim had also reported that the majority of the $106 million came from small donors.

td

July 9th, 2012
10:29 am

MARTA Rida

July 9th, 2012
10:24 am

Can we just cut Cherokee County from the metro and let them go back to being backwoods?

I guess that would mean that North Fulton should be cut off as well.

Cutty

July 9th, 2012
10:32 am

Yeah right. Vote in favor of allowing the citizens to approve the TSPLOST. Then 3 weeks before the actual referendum say you’re against it. So he really was for it, before he was against it. Or was he?

Bill from Atlanta

July 9th, 2012
10:32 am

Not sure what Rogers background is but I’m glad he isn’t supporting the T-Tax. I think anyone who would support this government con are the ones that have lost their minds!

Chief Justice John Roberts turns out to be one of the worse judges on the SC bench ever. He will go down infamously with the likes of Warren, and Burger as judges who turned the role of our government inside out. His contribution is one who participated in the destruction of American exceptionism. His opinion doesn’t even make sense.
Liberals should smile when they get assistance from so-called conservative like the Bush’s, McCain and Roberts who contribute to their goals better than their own leadership can.

catlady

July 9th, 2012
10:32 am

Good ole Chip “If I ain’t makin’ a buck, you ain’t makin’ a buck” Rogers! Remember, his money is on motels, not roads.

Hypocrite Hunter

July 9th, 2012
10:34 am

With anti T-Splost polling in the 60’s in his districts, the interesting thing isn’t that Rogers is against it. The interesting thing is that it is probably the single albatross that will bring down Beach…who happens to be stuck with it. Without the T-Splost, the combination of educrat, pro-illegal immigration, North Fulton Rockefeller Republican bases would probably be sufficient to take out Rogers…who has spent considerable political capital on relatively small coalition Charter School and tax agendas. The promised “Chamber love” which was expected from the tax shifts and employment law changes simply evaporated. Not to mention, his church base took a hit from GRTL types needing cover for wanting to push a Ralph Reed confidante. Suddenly the 14 year old gambling show on his radio station and motel fiasco with Tom Graves which used to be ignored are now polite uber-right code for “he didn’t wave nearly as many signs as he should have at the last anti-abortion rally”.

yellowdog

July 9th, 2012
10:36 am

CHIP PANDERS AND PANDERS AND PANDERS; he probably wants to make a run for governor himself…..flip flop; rather let the infructure collapse in the name of not raising taxes; this is why the people vote on it and so they should on 7/31; georgia cannot go any further backwards than it is…….. wake up people. vote yes the right thing to dol

Josh

July 9th, 2012
10:38 am

The consequence of improved traffic flow is more growth that quickly consumes the improvements so we just have to keep bumping up the taxes.

Perhaps instead of encouraging more people and employers to move to the Atlanta region, we should be promoting growth in other smaller regions like Columbus, Augusta, Savannah, etc. where the cost of creating and maintaining the traffic maze isn’t as high.

Red

July 9th, 2012
10:39 am

National level: Democrats say ‘let’s raise taxes on the rich and the revenue will be used to build roads, bridges, etc. It will create jobs!’ Republicans say ‘That’s bad! Do not hike taxes! Do not expand government! Let jobs be created by private sector.’

State level: Republicans say ‘let’s raise taxes on EVERYONE and the revenue will be used to build bridges, roads, etc. It will create jobs.’

Why is it when Obama says a targeted tax hike in the name of job growth Republicans say it is bad? Then when the GOP pushes across the board tax hikes here in GA in the name of job growth, it becomes a wonderful thing? I love how the GOP supporters then go for the jugular by justifying this on the traffic issue as well. If tax hikes and expansion of government bureaucracy in the name of job creation is bad at the national level it should be bad at the state level as well. The Republicans in GA have justified Obama’s plan as the way to go. Or are we just using the Romneycare defense of mandates are fine to impose on people if your state constitution allows for it….hypocrites.

Marlboro Man

July 9th, 2012
10:41 am

Untie the knot, traffic is killing jobs.

Oh yea, Rogers is a crook, ask Bartow Co Bank, don’t loan him any $$$$.

wumpy fish

July 9th, 2012
10:41 am

“Will the kid” has placed his bet for the long term.The governor’s mansion, put Ralph Reed on the ticket with him and we could have Indian casinos on W Paces Ferry.

A Conservative Voice

July 9th, 2012
10:44 am

@Proud Voter

July 9th, 2012
10:19 am
He and his political ilk want transportation and education to be privately funded. I vote against Chip Rogers.

Hey PV, you still gonna have a DOT job when TSPLOST goes down?

Road Scholar

July 9th, 2012
10:44 am

Conservatives are always pissed off when they don’t get their way, and find all sorts of ways to divorce themselves from someone, even a conservative SC Justice, doesn’t do exactly what they want.

I wonder where all the “oust the incumbent” talk has gone in respect to Chip Rogers? Term limits? Selective amnesia!

Josh

July 9th, 2012
10:48 am

Replay to Red…

Taxes at the local/state level are better than those at the Fed level because you’re deciding with your neighbors what’s best for your area. People in California or New York don’t know what’s best for Georgia so their Fed representatives should not be making decisions for us.

stupid poor people

July 9th, 2012
10:52 am

A New York City donor… “I don’t think the common person is getting it,” she said from the passenger seat of a Range Rover stamped with East Hampton beach permits. “Nobody understands why Obama is hurting them.

“We’ve got the message,” she added. “But my college kid, the baby sitters, the nails ladies — everybody who’s got the right to vote — they don’t understand what’s going on. I just think if you’re lower income — one, you’re not as educated, two, they don’t understand how it works, they don’t understand how the systems work, they don’t understand the impact.”

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What a gem. A multi-millionaire opining that the lack of support for Mitt Romney is because “lower income” people “don’t understand” because, ya know, being lower-income equates with being undereducated and generally stupid. Nevermind statistics showing the more formal education you have the more liberal you tend to be. And not like there are undereducated Conservatives…. I’ve never met any of those… I mean not around here at least…. right?

I guess that’s how “high income” folk tend to be out of touch and self-absorbed?

Right, Mitt?

Road Scholar

July 9th, 2012
10:56 am

Josh: If you hadn’t noticed, the present gas tax (where over 60% is collected in the Atlanta area) is distributed over the whole state with at least 70% of the tax being distributed over the whole state. Do you not remember the GRIP system- the 4 laning of rural 2 lane state routes , many with only 10,000 cars a day on them, while we sit in congestion in Atlanta?

Do you not remember Sonny’s “Go Fish” endeavor; this was NOT done for the Ga Aquarium but as a tourist attraction! Oh and Sonny’s tax break on the land he bought in his home county…on one of those improved GRIP corridors?

Josh why don’t you endorse your own idea and move to south Georgia?

Shar

July 9th, 2012
11:03 am

The article on the T-SPLOST in yesterday’s AJC was illuminating. The first paragraph mentioned that Georgians will be voting on a ten-year tax, and the rest of the article quoted improvements expected at the end of a THIRTY year period. The point is clear: there is no justifying this tax over the “initial” ten year period as it will not deliver transportation benefits. This is fully intended to be at least a thirty year tax and most likely a permanent one.

The Chamber, faithfully followed by the AJC, has morphed the rationale for this tax into economic development and “jobs” in the absence of any evidence that metro transportation will actually improve. They don’t mention that the jobs will immediately flow into the hands of the Chamber members who are pushing so hard to get this passed, the lawyers and finance folk and “consultants” who already have contracts billing in the hundreds of dollars per hour and stretching into infinity. Look at the list and see how many multi-million dollar “studies” are included, with no money to actually implement whatever they consultants finally recommend.

I think the exasperation over this con job, coming on the heels of smaller con jobs like the extension of the 400 toll and the toll lanes, is finally piercing the personal greed of politicians who must defend this payoff boondoggle to their fed-up constituents. It’s not a surprise that Chip Rogers is talking out of both sides of his mouth; it’s really more a display of the Chamber’s power that more politicians are not doing so as well.

I’m off to vote early and put my NO vote into action.

Bob Loblaw

July 9th, 2012
11:05 am

Chip must be ready to handicap the T-SPLOST campaign in his district and thinks that its “NO” -5%. He’s recommending his parlay of the year on an under 62% voter turnout bet with the “NO -5%”. Call Paradise Casino today! Tell ‘em Winner Will sent you!c1cd

Bill from Atlanta

July 9th, 2012
11:05 am

Again you libs quit labeling the neocons as allies of the conservative movement. They are doing more for your cause than the cause for ))true American Values.

Phil Lunney

July 9th, 2012
11:07 am

Chip Rogers and my Georgia Senator John Albers are being the parrots of the Tea Party. No new taxes, no real alternatives that are good for the Atlanta area. If this is voted down, we will watch as Georgia and Atlanta slowly become less relevant. This was a joint committee from all of the jurisdictions and now the “naysayers” are doing what they do best, nothing.
I am tired of leaders who don’t lead, they follow other voices that are not from here.
If they successfully defeat this, they will not have an alternative, they will just tell us how this is not the answer and then rail against the lack of vision in our community.
Gentlemen, look in the mirror and see how shallow you really are.

Formerteacher

July 9th, 2012
11:08 am

Chip’s “I don’t support the T-SPLOST” stance isn’t news here in the “backwoods” of Cherokee. He’s been saying it for weeks now. Yet, so far no one has called him out on voting “yes” TWICE to put it on the ballot. I so hope Beach can pull out a win. Chip needs to be taken out to the woodshed- and left there.

Kris

July 9th, 2012
11:10 am

Whats new crooked Deal signing a law that will cause Veterans to have additional rent at VA homes . (that alone is enough o IMPEACH him.). As for Chip Way to go,I guess he got the short end of the Deal from the t-splost SCAM.

VOTE NO on Tax scam (Untie Atlanta from the dirty politicians).

Impeach DEAL

Shar

July 9th, 2012
11:12 am

@stupid poor people: I couldn’t agree more. If anyone “doesn’t understand”, it’s that overprivileged, self-absorbed and utterly blind woman who blithely spews her contempt on anyone other than “us” while inadvertently exposing herself as selfish, spoiled and completely incapable of understanding the realities experienced by her fellow Americans who can’t afford her lifestyle.

I do wonder, though, precisely what “message” we “don’t get”, and why she thinks “the way the system works” is best?

Road Scholar

July 9th, 2012
11:13 am

Shar: Repubs can’t do any meaningful planning. The law states that the tax will last 10 years. Only ten years. An extension is not possible…now get this.. without another vote and project list. Regions are suppose to …by Federals law… to have a long term plan.. called the Regional Transportation Plan and our horizon year is 2040. It is based on anticipated revenues and needs for projects. It not only identifies future project that could be needed now, but because of low funding, are not able to be implemented until latter.

JF McNamara

July 9th, 2012
11:14 am

“We’ve got the message,” she added. “But my college kid, the baby sitters, the nails ladies — everybody who’s got the right to vote — they don’t understand what’s going on. I just think if you’re lower income — one, you’re not as educated, two, they don’t understand how it works, they don’t understand how the systems work, they don’t understand the impact.”

Boy, that sure is arrogant. I wonder in what brilliant way she made her money, and how she can reconcile record corporate profits and a higher concentration of wealth in her (and other wealthy people’s hands) with the system not working? Perhaps others understand the system better since they aren’t completely sheltered from it by having a huge amount of wealth.

honested

July 9th, 2012
11:23 am

What a classic example of bait-and-switch from the One Party State.

Put up a bad plan (unless you think a giveaway to the paving contractors is a good plan) that does nothing really to improve mass transit.

Invent artificial ‘regions’ that guarantee the plan will fail due to the ‘all taxes are bad’ crowd.

Right before the vote, blame the Governor, Mayor, ‘liberals’ etc. for proposing a ‘TAX’ (as if governance was free).

Hope that the voters don’t realize it was the One Party State that was responsible for all the money wasted in the planning process.

DawgDad

July 9th, 2012
11:25 am

“Can we just cut Cherokee County from the metro and let them go back to being backwoods?”

If it were up to us we’d save you the trouble.

Mike

July 9th, 2012
11:26 am

If Rogers is involved, beware.

roughrider

July 9th, 2012
11:27 am

Ralston will always be around where money is being taken in.

sldasdf

July 9th, 2012
11:28 am

Maybe Chip should make like Chipper and retire. Only he won’t be getting any H.O.F. inductions.

Auntie Christ

July 9th, 2012
11:30 am

From the Hamptons: “But my college kid, the baby sitters, the nails ladies — everybody who’s got the right to vote — they don’t understand what’s going on.”

They understand just fine lady. These people who get up everyday and go to WORK for a living understand that people who contribute nothing to society except turmoil in the financial and commodity markets are laughing at them all the way to the bank. The people whose only ‘contribution’ is to buy a stock, hold it for 2 hours then sell it to drive up or drive down the price to benefit themselves, or who manipulate the price of gas, wheat or coffee through their own machinations to their own benefit, people like Bain who increase the net worth of billionaires to the harm and loss of the nation and the working class, these are the people who luxuriate in a system of taxation and favoritism that says the money made from their machinations should be taxed at a lower rate than salaries made by actual work. This is the constituency of the republican party, and the people they protect and serve, to the detriment of the rest of us, i.e. the baby sitters, the nails ladies — everybody who’s got the right to vote.

WOW

July 9th, 2012
11:34 am

@Shar

Which is precisely why she wouldn’t give her name when making those statements. I must thank her for the laugh of the day though.

md

July 9th, 2012
11:34 am

“how she can reconcile record corporate profits and a higher concentration of wealth in her (and other wealthy people’s hands) with the system not working?”

Start with understanding that those profits apply to a minority of corporations, as the majority are NOT sitting on record profits and therefore are NOT creating new jobs. And some of those that made profits did so by cutting expenses…….employees and their related benefits.

GA Rep Stink

July 9th, 2012
11:36 am

I have been 100% against whatever GA republicans like. However, now that they are not all together, I am confused. Can’t they make up their mind?

yuzeyurbrane

July 9th, 2012
11:38 am

T-Splost is dead. Chip obviously put his finger in the air and found a strong wind blowing in that direction.

Winnie

July 9th, 2012
11:39 am

There is so much wrong with this… where to start.

1. Tying unpopular national politicans to other politicans is as old as the hills and was clearly on parade when Bush was President. No comment from Jim then.
2. National “news” organizations normally take absolutely no note when Obama takes yet another fund raising trip to Hollywood, Aspen or the Upper Eastside. Why the sudden hypocricy? O yeah…it’s not sudden.
3. TSPLOST is a GIANT tax increase. But the real problem is that it’s gone off to ’solve” social problems, not to fix our transportation woes. Chip Rogers is right even if he is hurrying to catch up with his constituents.
4. Notice that no one on the left wants to talk about the benefits of the space program now that Barack Obama has gutted it. If we had spent on space what he peed away on the shovel ready stimulus we might be much better off.

GA Repub Stink

July 9th, 2012
11:39 am

Someone said that GA republicans cannot do anything meaningful. Well, I know of a very meaningful thing they have done: destroy and dismantle public education.

I didn’t say that the “meaningful” was a good thing.

Tiberius

July 9th, 2012
11:42 am

“They understand just fine lady.”

Actually, they don’t understand at all.

They don’t understand that government cannot create long-term employment, except in the public sector by growing that same sector. And each job the public sector creates takes money permanently out of the private sector, degrading the private sector’s ability to generate jobs.

Liberals don’t understand this at all.

DawgDad

July 9th, 2012
11:42 am

Auntie: You do not understand the economics of the capitalist system, and your conclusions as to who’s looking out for the baby sitters and nails ladies are quite comical, considering most are not union. There is a report out (Examiner.com) showing that in each of the 17 States that elected a GOP Governor in 2010 the unemployment rate has dropped since January 2011. Ponder THAT!

GA Repub Stink

July 9th, 2012
11:42 am

Winnie – you are such a ‘good GA republican”. Without the stimulus money from the federal government (and you give full credit to Obama), our economy would undoubtedly still be declining and likely in another great depression.

However, I fully understand your inability to see this since you are a ditto-head.

GA Repub Stink

July 9th, 2012
11:43 am

Tiberius – You are absolutely right! This must be why the federal government expenditures by Roosevelt did nothing to get us out of the Great Depression.

When will GA republicans learn history?