Don’t bet the farm on Marco Rubio as Mitt Romney’s running mate
Several years ago, there was a publishing house that failed to recognize the potential of a certain, young cross-cultural politician in Illinois.
The rights to “Dreams from My Father” were sold to another imprint for pocket change. Once Barack Obama decided to run for president, someone made a lot of money.
But it wasn’t the company that paid Obama to write his autobiography.
Now, another cross-cultural politician has written another memoir. This time, the publisher knows a long-term investment when it sees one. U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., arrived in Gwinnett County for his book-signing last week with a team of roadies and his own bus, with his face plastered on the side.
U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio signs books at Discovery Mills in Gwinnett County on Thursday. Marcelo Wheelock, Mundo Hispanico/ Marcelo.Wheelock@mundohispanico.com
And this is a man who’s only getting mentions for vice president?
But seriously, it was significant that, on Thursday, while Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty were in Ohio, doing battle with President Barack Obama and his re-election bus tour, 41-year-old Rubio was at Books-A-Million, engaging in a little free enterprise by selling copies of his memoir, “An American Son.” (Penguin Group, $26.95)
Rubio’s defeat of former Gov. Charlie Crist in 2010, by chasing him out of the Florida Republican primary then burying him in the general election, was the first major eruption of tea party clout in GOP ranks. That the Miami-born son of Cuban émigrés brings something different to the table was evident from the hundreds of people who lined the walls of the bookstore, patiently waiting.
Young men in shirts stenciled with “An American Son — 2012 National Book Tour” hustled fans through at the rate of six a minute – a pace that was efficient, but not rude. Many of those in line were Republican regulars. State Sen. Don Balfour of Snellville waited with five books opened and ready for Rubio’s pen.
“He’s an American dream,” the chairman of the Senate Rules Committee said.
But “Where are you from — originally?” was a crucial part of Rubio’s patter. The Florida senator drew a significant number of Spanish-speakers who normally wouldn’t be seen at a Republican event in Georgia. It is this connection to Latinos – and perhaps his confession that he considers hip-hop “a guilty pleasure” — that makes Rubio so valuable to Republicans looking down the road.
Last month, as his book tour began, a TV news network declared that Rubio was not being asked to provide the documents that would indicate he was among those being vetted as a potential running mate for Republican Mitt Romney.
The Romney campaign decreed this to be untrue. Rubio himself has declared the topic off limits. But there are clues – in Rubio’s book, in a quick interview that preceded his visit to Gwinnett County, and in the general climate – that would lead one to bet that he won’t be paired with Romney on that stage in Tampa.
First, the climate: For the better part of a year, Rubio had worked in the U.S. Senate on his version of the Dream Act, an effort to legitimize the presence of young people brought here by their illegal immigrant parents. Obama’s decision last month to enact the Dream Act by executive order – which Rubio declares to be “too broad” — undercut any effort the Florida senator might make this year.
Yet when it comes to illegal immigration, Rubio has placed himself squarely at the crossroads of Republican thinking. “On the one hand, these are human beings we’re talking about. These are people – many of whom are desperate to provide their families a better life,” Rubio said last week. “On the other hand, a million people immigrate legally, permanently every year to the U.S. Our message to them can’t be, come here illegally because it’s cheaper and quicker.”
Romney took a hard line on illegal immigration during the primaries. Rubio is aimed at a judicious compromise and negotiation. Were Romney to choose Rubio as a running mate, any daylight between the two men on the issue could pose a serious problem.
Then there’s “An American Son.” As campaign biographies go, it’s not a bad read. Like Obama’s autobiography, Rubio devotes much of his book to his immigrant family’s history, and the ability he develops to negotiate among white, Hispanic and African-American worlds.
Rubio also writes about his religious journey – from Catholic in Miami to Mormon in Las Vegas then back to Catholicism, with a touch of Southern Baptist thrown in for good measure.
Rubio is generous toward the Church of Latter Day Saints and its emphasis on family values, but he allows one uncomfortable criticism to be uttered through his beloved grandfather, who attended a single service: “He told me he would never go back because he hadn’t seen a single African American in attendance.”
Six or so years ago, as Obama – like Rubio, then a two-year veteran of the U.S. Senate – was pondering whether to make a White House run, Senate Democrats urged him on. The longer a potential candidate stays in Congress, the less viable he is, they told him.
I asked Rubio if he felt the same. He said no. “The Senate is a platform to speak out against things you think are wrong, and defend things that you think are right,” Rubio said. “My focus has been to be the best U.S. senator I can be. If I can do that, then I will have opportunity to do things in the future – and maybe outside of politics.”
Which sounds like a man ready to make a long-term investment in himself.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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D Wright
July 7th, 2012
9:31 am
Mr. Rubio does not have the intellectual heft to be either VP or President. He is cuban american and that is why he is republican—the cubans of Florida have never forgiven JFK for the Bay of Pigs–a really great reason to be republican 50 years after the fact!! I live in Florida and resent more and more every day that my views do not matter to this senator or to our idiot of a governor . Democrats never push the other views to the side no matter how stupid they may be. Mr. Rubio is finished before he can even begin.
Centrist
July 7th, 2012
9:50 am
Rubio is destined for a more powerful political office than one of 100 U.S. Senators who simply talk and form voting blocks. VP is not a good job, except it is a better stepping stone than a U.S. Senator unless you make a fool of yourself in that job – which many have done.
If Rubio is not the VP choice this time, or even if he is and the ticket does not beat the incumbent Obama – look to see him become Governor of Florida down the road. Chief Executive of big states have considerably more clout and experience for future Presidential runs than U.S. Senators. Our current President did not have the necessary experience – only oratory skills and the compliant media.
Deb
July 7th, 2012
10:09 am
I’m not a fan of cons, but Rubio and Paul Ryan are impressive. Jindal creeps me out.
md
July 7th, 2012
10:28 am
“Democrats never push the other views to the side no matter how stupid they may be.”
Must be why they used reconciliation to cram the hc bill through……
As for Rubio burying Crist, that was a no brainer once Crist showed he had no convictions by taking his ball and going to play on his own field…….
As for Rubio as VP……I think he needs some seasoning in the senate and it wouldn’t hurt if he ran for governor…..I’m not too keen on electing Presidents where the only experience they have is writing bills and twisting arms……..a la the current guy…..but McCain had the same problem…..lifetime bill writer…….
md
July 7th, 2012
10:37 am
Oh, and as for latinos…..I wouldn’t count on them staying on the democratic plantation of dependence…..as they tend to have a high work ethic, look for them to shift to the center/right once they realize they are pulling the wagon. Then, one would be wise to remember that latinos are for the most part catholics……so their convictions/teachings may also lead them away from the left.
And could it be possible that some cuban-americans don’t like the left because they see the ultimate left leaning gov’t running their homeland?? How’s that working out for them down there??
Centrist
July 7th, 2012
10:39 am
@ md – Well thought out posts.
carlosgvv
July 7th, 2012
10:40 am
As I understand it, Mormons did not allow blacks to be members until their chief “prophet” got God’s ok.
I wonder how many people actually believe that.
Attack Dog
July 7th, 2012
10:42 am
“…Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty were in Ohio, doing battle with President Barack Obama.” Really? 1. They were like a couple of little dogs chasing a Greyhound bus. 2. Jindal has yet to make a coherent speech on public policy and Pawlenty couldn’t make it out of Iowa. 3. Speaking of Iowa and voter fraud, who won the Iowa Republican primary?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
10:48 am
Don’t bet the farm on Marco Rubio as Mitt Romney’s running mate
Earlier this week Ann Romney suggested they were looking at a woman as a running mate, so little Billy Kristol is floating the trial balloon that Condoleeza Rice as his bet.
But I suspect the sky will be filled with plenty of trial balloons before his selection is made.
Attack Dog
July 7th, 2012
10:50 am
Learn more about why Cuba turned left (yes too far) in the first place and you will find that exploitation and plantations does have meaning, but not the way most Dixiecrats think. Speaking of exploitation and plantations, most Dixiecrats forget their sharecropper mindset was, and still is, nothing more than tools of the aristocrats.
Attack Dog
July 7th, 2012
10:57 am
Condoleeza “Mushroom Cloud” Rice for VP? SMH.
td
July 7th, 2012
11:00 am
I would much rather see Allan West or Newt as VP but I know Romney is to conservative to make such a bold move. I do not think Rubio wants to be VP right now and agree with Centrist on his analysis.
Romney will pick a moderate Conservative with impeccable credentials and nothing the press can exploit on the personal level.
Cynthia Tucker McKinney
July 7th, 2012
11:04 am
They shouldn’t even run anyone against Owebama. To challenge him is racist. Owebama is an economic genius and the economy is going like gangbusters!! Hope and Change Baby!!!! Owebama, Owebama, Owebama, Owebama, Owebama…….
Smarts not gimmicks
July 7th, 2012
11:07 am
Will ya’ll just let “Condi” fade away. (let her make her millions on the college lectue circuit, we don’t need nor want her in public office.) That selection would be no more than token nod toward two supposedly minority groups and a eady made excuse should they lose.) She may be intelligent, but Republican party needs strong wille, well thought of and repected, managment material type that can enhance ticket for a good competive, close fight with actual possibiity of wining.
md
July 7th, 2012
11:08 am
“I wonder how many people actually believe that.”
Does it matter? We all have our own beliefs, none of which can be proven right or wrong……….
One would be wise to understand that even the guy that others think is way out there may be the only one that has it “right”……..
GaBlue
July 7th, 2012
11:10 am
If I had a farm, I’d be tending to my animals and crops. I wouldn’t bet it. As for Rmoney’s running mate selection… it would be hard for me to care any less. The fact is, there’s no way the GOP choice gets any more entertaining than last time. I don’t care who you are… that was some seriously funny stuff.
md
July 7th, 2012
11:13 am
“Learn more about why Cuba turned left (yes too far) in the first place and you will find that exploitation and plantations does have meaning, but not the way most Dixiecrats think.”
Learning about the ancient past has little to do with the present…….the cuban people were sold a bill of goods and then sold down the river…….that tends to happen when folks give up their freedoms. A bit like the recent hc bill…….now that the benevolent gov’t is in charge of holding down the costs, look for more taxes on all the bad things we do like the already enacted taxes on cigarettes and tanning beds…….those are just the appetizer………
md
July 7th, 2012
11:16 am
And I retract that statement about the past, as folks would be wise to understand why the cubans are currently a suppressed people…..they allowed the uber-socilaists to run their lives…willingly.
Attack Dog
July 7th, 2012
11:21 am
Those who forget, have convenient amnesia, or never knew their sorid past are doomed to repeat them. It is funny hearing Dixiecrats talk about freedom and wanting the country back, while the aristocrats are acting like the Wizard of Oz.
DannyX
July 7th, 2012
11:26 am
George W Bush had 6 years experience as Governor before he was elected president, how did that work out? Hint: You won’t see him on the campaign trail supporting Romney. What was Carter’s occupation before he became president?
Marco Rubio’s current approval rating in Florida is 51%, about the same as Obama in today’s Rasmussen poll, 50%
50% is the new 65%
Centrist
July 7th, 2012
11:29 am
Other than generating news cycle speculation that might get more voters involved before October, along with maybe a single state – the VP selection is meaningless.
McCain was a geriatric media hound who had little chance 4 years ago. His desperation choice of Palin probably helped him more than hurt – took the spotlight off his bumbling.
td
July 7th, 2012
11:31 am
DannyX
July 7th, 2012
11:26 am
“George W Bush had 6 years experience as Governor before he was elected president, how did that work out? ”
Better then it is working out now with the current occupier of the White House that has no leadership ability and no idea how the economy of this nation actually works.
td
July 7th, 2012
11:34 am
Centrist
July 7th, 2012
11:29 am
McCain was ahead in the polls (after the Palin selection) before he suspended his campaign to return to Washington to vote on TARP.
Attack Dog
July 7th, 2012
11:35 am
We can always ask Romney to stake us for a $10,000 bet, as long as he gives us the same deal he made with Bain. If we win, we keep the profits, if we lose, we don’t have to pay him back. What a country.
Centrist
July 7th, 2012
11:38 am
@ td – Convention bounces are short lived – McCain was thoroughly trounced. Romney will get his bounce first, then Obama’s much closer to the election with an after-glow which will probably never be overcome.
hiram
July 7th, 2012
11:40 am
I don’t understand how Southern Baptists can vote for Romney, even if the robber barons did place his name in front of the R. on the ballot. These guys are nuts.
“On March 1, 1975 LDS church president Spencer W. Kimball announced plans to build a temple in São Paulo, Brazil.
The problem of determining priesthood eligibility in Brazil was thought to be nearly impossible due to the mixing of races in that country.
After much discussion among the members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles on this matter, they engaged the Lord in prayer. “It was during this prayer that the revelation came. The Spirit of the Lord rested upon us all; we felt something akin to what happened on the day of Pentecost and at the Kirtland Temple. From the midst of eternity, the voice of God, conveyed by the power of the Spirit, spoke to his prophet…”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_Revelation_on_Priesthood
td
July 7th, 2012
11:40 am
Attack Dog
July 7th, 2012
11:35 am
Sort of like the same deal all these people made with their banks. Lets see I make $40,000 per year and I bought a $300,000 home. When the value of that home starting falling I then decided to walk away from it and leave it to the taxpayer to bail out the bank.
DannyX
July 7th, 2012
11:42 am
“Better then it is working out now with the current occupier of the White House…”
LMAO!!! &#$^ is a four letter word around these blogs. Republicans have a fit if his name is brought up. &#$^ had the lowest recorded approval rating. &#$^ had a recession named after him. &#$^ is responsible for the outbreak of a new disease that afflicted 88% of all Republicans called “Eight Year Amnesia Syndrome,” a disease td obviously suffers from!
md
July 7th, 2012
11:42 am
Even Clinton understands the underlying success and need for the Bains of the world…..one would be wise to understand the game before poo pooing it.
If Bain has to lay off 10% of a workforce in order to save the other 90%, that is a good thing…..too many focus on the 10% vs the 90%…….even the VP of the now defunct steel mill the left is always harping about stated they went in search of Bain as a potential lifeline…..not the other way around. Without corps like Bain willing to risk their capital, these corps that are in trouble more than likely just go belly up…….yep, 100% layoffs.
GaBlue
July 7th, 2012
11:44 am
md writes: “…understand why the cubans are currently a suppressed people…..they allowed the uber-socilaists to run their lives…”
Seriously? The Cubans currently plow their good fertile land with animals, and cannot grow enough food to properly feed themselves. Why? Because OUR GOVERNMENT has deemed it illegal to allow John Deere to go in and sell them American-made equipment. OUR GOVERNMENT
td
July 7th, 2012
11:44 am
hiram
July 7th, 2012
11:40 am
“I don’t understand how Southern Baptists can vote for Romney,”
Oh yes, Southern Baptist would much rather vote for a person that believes in Liberation theology and its social justice (equal outcomes) and at worst is a hidden Muslim.
Yes, we have a winner here.
DannyX
July 7th, 2012
11:44 am
Gosh Sarah was governor for 10 minutes, I thought you guys loved that. She was also mayor of Wasilla, you know that grand megalopolis.
md
July 7th, 2012
11:45 am
“Eight Year Amnesia Syndrome,”
Which seems to be a 2 way street, as unemployment under Bush was actually pretty darn good for the majority of those 8 years…..
Attack Dog
July 7th, 2012
11:46 am
I agree. 1. The House that has no leadership ability (John Boehner) and (Paul Ryan has) no idea how the economy of this nation actually works. 2. (McCain’s) desperation choice of Palin probably helped him more than hurt (him among Dixiecrats). 3. Jindal has no added value and Pawlenty wouldn’t carry his home state. 4. Rubio wrote a fictional book and spent over a year and couldn’t come up with a plausible DREAM Act?
GaBlue
July 7th, 2012
11:47 am
… (sorry, hit submit too soon) continues and embargo that punishes innocent descendents and denies a ready free-market avenue whereby American manufacturers (the few that are left) the opportunity to sell goods there that could enhance, or even save, lives.
DannyX
July 7th, 2012
11:47 am
Mitt, take our Governor Deal, PLEASE.
We beg you.
md
July 7th, 2012
11:48 am
“Seriously? The Cubans currently plow their good fertile land with animals, and cannot grow enough food to properly feed themselves. Why? Because OUR GOVERNMENT has deemed it illegal to allow John Deere to go in and sell them American-made equipment. OUR GOVERNMENT”
So you are admitting that their communist/socialist system is incapable of sustaining itself??
Thought so……..
DannyX
July 7th, 2012
11:49 am
“as unemployment under Bush was actually pretty darn good for the majority of those 8 years…..”
Yes, and the Titanic floated before it sank.
hiram
July 7th, 2012
11:50 am
td said:
Oh yes, Southern Baptist would much rather vote for a person that believes in Liberation theology and its social justice (equal outcomes) and at worst is a hidden Muslim.
Does anybody understand what td is saying?
md
July 7th, 2012
11:51 am
And Gablue…..you are aware that Cuba has free trade with many other countries around the world….right? Or does success only rely on American goods?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
11:52 am
as unemployment under Bush was actually pretty darn good for the majority of those 8 years…..
as the voyage of The Titanic was actually pretty darn good for the majority of it’s ill fated trip.
td
July 7th, 2012
11:52 am
md
July 7th, 2012
11:45 am
“Eight Year Amnesia Syndrome,”
Which seems to be a 2 way street, as unemployment under Bush was actually pretty darn good for the majority of those 8 years…..
We were at full employment prior to the Dems taking back over the House of Reps and the Senate in 2006.
GaBlue
July 7th, 2012
11:54 am
md,
Just wow. Actually, they do pretty much sustain themselves. They make some awesome cigars (I’m told) and export them to countries that allow their citizens to buy them.
For a country full of Worshippers of the Church of the Holy Free Market (amen!), the United States surely is hypocritical when it comes to a little island just off our coast, aren’t we? Administration after administration denies these poor struggling people — who DO work hard and make the best of what they’ve got — the chance to join the 21st century.
But hey, md, please go ahead and make it all about YOUR ideology… you know, if it floats your ego around for another hour or so.
td
July 7th, 2012
11:55 am
hiram
July 7th, 2012
11:50 am
And if you do not understand then you are just another uneducated Obama voter.
Centrist
July 7th, 2012
11:55 am
Back to the bias front – the AJC has an article about some minor Deal technical election campaign issues they want to blow up as if they were huge ethical lapses. At least the AJC admits this: “The complaints, largely based on reporting by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, accuse Deal of …”
Surely Galloway will have to blog about this to fire up his fellow partisans.
md
July 7th, 2012
11:56 am
Wonder if the Titanic had a crew that was doing everything it could to stop the Captain from changing course….. a la the denial of a certain group of people not willing to clamp down on Fannie and Freddie and the out of control nature of the housing fiasco. All one has to do is google the situation and one would realize that Bush was sounding the alarm as early as 2001…..and it all fell on deaf ears.
Attack Dog
July 7th, 2012
11:57 am
Let’s see. Which has more of an impact on unemployment, 1. Losing 750,000 jobs per month or generating 100,000 jobs per month? 2. Aristocrats sitting on trillions or spending billions under Citizens United or finding ways for Americans to be healthy? 3. State public sector austerity programs or private sector job growth? 4. Fracking or a comprehensive and publically thought out energy policy.
DannyX
July 7th, 2012
12:01 pm
“We were at full employment prior to the Dems taking back over the House of Reps and the Senate in 2006.”
And yet &#$^ is still in his self-imposed exile. I hear Romney got a restraining order against &#$^ that requires &#$^ to stay 100 miles away from Romney at all times.
Its called the “&#$^ Recession,” not the “Democratic Congress Recession.”
md
July 7th, 2012
12:02 pm
“But hey, md, please go ahead and make it all about YOUR ideology… you know, if it floats your ego around for another hour or so.”
Has nothing to do with my ideology, it has to do with THEIR ideology……you must have forgotten that the once mighty USSR was (and is) in their corner providing them with just about anything they needed……..wonder why they weren’t/aren’t a powerhouse economy with all that firepower at their disposal………
It’s the system silly………communism(socialism) requires total control from the top down…..
Maybe you have noticed that the biggest communist country on the planet had to turn to quasi capitalism to pull themselves out of the dark ages.
Your little scenario only works if one were to believe that cuba has been cut off from the rest of the world and that is just not true…….
DannyX
July 7th, 2012
12:04 pm
Hey md, why don’t you Google ” &#$^ zero down payment”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
12:05 pm
All one has to do is google the situation and one would realize that Bush was sounding the alarm as early as 2001…..and it all fell on deaf ears.
Fannie and Freddie?
Debunked countless times.
Bush “sounding the alarm”?
Too funny!
Now, we’ve got a problem here in America that we have to address. Too many American families, too many minorities do not own a home. There is a home ownership gap in America. The difference between Anglo America and African American and Hispanic home ownership is too big. (Applause.) And we’ve got to focus the attention on this nation to address this.
[...]
And let me talk about some of the progress which we have made to date, as an example for others to follow. First of all, government sponsored corporations that help create our mortgage system — I introduced two of the leaders here today — they call those people Fannie May and Freddie Mac, as well as the federal home loan banks, will increase their commitment to minority markets by more than $440 billion. (Applause.) I want to thank Leland and Franklin for that commitment. It’s a commitment that conforms to their charters, as well, and also conforms to their hearts.
Cynthia Tucker McKinney
July 7th, 2012
12:05 pm
Danny III.V is right. It is all Bush’s Fault. All together now: Owebama Owebama Owebama Owebama Owebama!
md
July 7th, 2012
12:08 pm
“spending billions under Citizens United”
Key word there….spending…..or does it matter which jobs are benefiting?
“State public sector austerity programs or private sector job growth?”
You are aware that there is a direct relationship between the two don’t you? Since the second one must generate the capital to sustain both………..
md
July 7th, 2012
12:09 pm
“Hey md, why don’t you Google ” &#$^ zero down payment””
And?
DannyX
July 7th, 2012
12:09 pm
I hear Bwaney Fwank wrestled &#$^ down onto the ground and shoved his huge bad loans down &#$^’s throat.
hiram
July 7th, 2012
12:15 pm
td
July 7th, 2012
11:52 am
“We were at full employment prior to the Dems taking back over the House of Reps and the Senate in 2006.”
You were at full employment because the banking cartels’ smoke and mirrors hadn’t hit the fan yet.. People felt wealthy, because they had a lot of make believe equity in their real estate holdings, and were spending money like drunken sailors – home equity loans for new bass boats, motor cycles, guns, ammo, camo, PU trucks, etc. When the party was over, they had zero equity, and didn’t fill very wealthy. They quit buying bass boats, motor cycles, etc., and the the dems were left holding the bag, while the banking cartel lived happily ever after.
Cutty
July 7th, 2012
12:16 pm
Isn’t Rubio one of those anchor babies that the cons want to kick out of the country?
md
July 7th, 2012
12:16 pm
No Kam……you are mixing up the argument about fannie/freddie and the subprime loans with the overall lending practices. They are not one and the same.
“Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac accelerated their imprudent behavior after the Bush administration attempted to regulate them. They bought almost as much mortgage debt from 2005 through 2008 as they bought in their first 30 years of their existence.”
DannyX
July 7th, 2012
12:18 pm
Gallup poll, 6/14/12
Who do you blame most for the struggling economy:
&#$^…68%
Obama…52%
At least most Americans are not suffering from “Eight Year Amnesia Syndrome.”
(Poll does not equal 100 because those polled could say both.)
DannyX
July 7th, 2012
12:19 pm
Just remember folks…
Countrywide is on your side.
NY Times blurbage
July 7th, 2012
12:20 pm
Article on Romney and Rupert Murdoch; this in reference to a Wall Street Journal, Murdoch and Romney meeting in 2007 during Romney’s first run, page A16:
“At one point, Mr. Romney declared that “I would probably bring in McKinsey,” the management consulting firm, to help him set up his presidential cabinet, a comment that seemed to startle the editors [of the Wall Street Journal] and left Mr. Murdoch visibly taken aback.”
oh dear.
Based on an article earlier this summer about how Romney ran the joint as Gov. in Mass., i think the Tea Party will find themselves as effectively shut out of the process as the Dem’s, once he gets into office….
GaBlue
July 7th, 2012
12:21 pm
md,
The Cuban government does not prevent me from purchasing Cuban cigars, or selling American-made machinery (John Deere, Briggs & Stratton) to Cuban farmers to the benefit of the American labor force and economy. OUR GOVERNMENT prohibits this, Congress after Congress, President after President.
I get that your nostalgia for the good ol’ days of the Cold War still drives your thought processes, though. Bless your heart.
hiram
July 7th, 2012
12:21 pm
md
July 7th, 2012
12:08 pm
“You are aware that there is a direct relationship between the two don’t you? Since the second one must generate the capital to sustain both………..”
It looks like Centrist is no longer the smartest guy in the room. Md is equally brilliant…
td
July 7th, 2012
12:22 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
12:05 pm
DannyX
July 7th, 2012
12:09 pm
Yes, do not let the facts get in the way of your support of the Dems.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
12:22 pm
Between 2004 and 2006, when subprime lending was exploding, Fannie and Freddie went from holding a high of 48 percent of the subprime loans that were sold into the secondary market to holding about 24 percent, according to data from Inside Mortgage Finance, a specialty publication. One reason is that Fannie and Freddie were subject to tougher standards than many of the unregulated players in the private sector who weakened lending standards, most of whom have gone bankrupt or are now in deep trouble.
During those same explosive three years, private investment banks — not Fannie and Freddie — dominated the mortgage loans that were packaged and sold into the secondary mortgage market. In 2005 and 2006, the private sector securitized almost two thirds of all U.S. mortgages, supplanting Fannie and Freddie, according to a number of specialty publications that track this data.
And you aren’t telling the whole story.
md
July 7th, 2012
12:22 pm
Danny…..I’ll ask you since I have never received a reply from anybody else so maybe you can show me……since housing contracts are two party documents requiring a signature from two willing parties, can you point me to a link that shows just one person being forced to sign on the dotted line??
td
July 7th, 2012
12:26 pm
DannyX
July 7th, 2012
12:18 pm
Gallup poll, 6/14/12
Who do you blame most for the struggling economy:
&#$^…68%
Obama…52%
Only proves that the Lame stream Media has done its job very well.
Attack Dog
July 7th, 2012
12:26 pm
There is a big difference between AN uneducated Obama voter, and an uninformed/misinformed Dixiecrat. 1. One can be uneducated, but still can be informed. 2. Obama is way ahead in the polls with the educated too. 3. Dixiecrats tout that they have blocked Obama’s major policies (accept AHA), then claim his policies haven’t worked? 4. It could be said that the AJC reporting that “Georgia could lose $33M” or “State OKs fee for living in veterans’ homes” are a little more than a minor issues.
md
July 7th, 2012
12:26 pm
Gablue…..again, I ask you if it is necessary for a country to be able to trade with the US as a requirement to succeed?
I understand that we have an embargo, but you seem to not understand that others do not…..and if their system works, they should be able to do just fine without our trade……….
Bernie
July 7th, 2012
12:27 pm
OH! Please! MITT…PLEASE! choose Rubio, Nothing like having (2) two MORMONS in the WHITEHOUSE!
Auntie Christ
July 7th, 2012
12:30 pm
DannyX @ 11:42 ” a new disease that afflicted 88% of all Republicans called “Eight Year Amnesia Syndrome,” a disease td obviously suffers from!”
If you need any proof of the accuracy of this read md @ 1156: “All one has to do is google the situation and one would realize that Bush was sounding the alarm as early as 2001…..and it all fell on deaf ears.”
It’s been 8 years since bush’s re-election campaign ran one ad after another touting his “ownership society,” and taking credit for all the new home owners who bought homes thanks to his administration. He also mentioned the same in his ‘04 State of the Union speech. But alas, now the amnesia has set in, and the housing bubble was Barney Frank’s fault.
td
July 7th, 2012
12:30 pm
Bernie
July 7th, 2012
12:27 pm
To replace the two we have currently in the White House.
md
July 7th, 2012
12:31 pm
Kam….and once again, the actions of fannie’freddie in relation to subprime loans and the relation of fannie/freddie in the overall housing debacle are not the same……
I am not one that subscribes to the idea that only the subprime loans caused the problem. Folks that could not afford their loans came from all walks of life……but most knew darn well they may have bitten off more than they could chew.
So that info you keep putting up is irrelevant to my argument………
hiram
July 7th, 2012
12:31 pm
md
July 7th, 2012
12:16 pm
“Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac accelerated their imprudent behavior after the Bush administration attempted to regulate them.”
“Rove said Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac “accelerated their imprudent behavior after we attempted to regulate them.”
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/bush-administration-tried-reform-freddie-and-fannie-five-years-ago
MD IS KARL ROVE!!!!
DannyX
July 7th, 2012
12:33 pm
“Only proves that the Lame stream Media has done its job very well.”
Thanks for that whiny Sarah Palin impression. You and “Centrist” have it down pat. When the facts get in the way blame the Lame stream media!
td
July 7th, 2012
12:33 pm
Auntie Christ
July 7th, 2012
12:30 pm
“It’s been 8 years since bush’s re-election campaign ran one ad after another touting his “ownership society,” and taking credit for all the new home owners who bought homes thanks to his administration. ”
Of coarse politicians are going to try to take credit for anything positive in the country. You know like Obama taking credit for all the private sector jobs “His Administration” has created.
hiram
July 7th, 2012
12:35 pm
md is googling, copying and pasting right wing nonsense guys.
md
July 7th, 2012
12:35 pm
“It’s been 8 years since bush’s re-election campaign ran one ad after another touting his “ownership society,” and taking credit for all the new home owners who bought homes thanks to his administration. He also mentioned the same in his ‘04 State of the Union speech. But alas, now the amnesia has set in, and the housing bubble was Barney Frank’s fault.”
AC…..one would be wise to learn the difference between wanting all to be homeowners and wanting all to be homeowners in a well regulated system……….sure, he wanted the first…..but he also wanted the second……which never happened. Blocked on all fronts by the dems.
Start with Senate bill s-190 if one wants to add a little truth to their agenda……although even 190 was too little too late, it was defeated along party lines.
hiram
July 7th, 2012
12:37 pm
But, I’m pretty sure that td just makes his right wing nonsense up as he goes along.
md
July 7th, 2012
12:38 pm
“MD IS KARL ROVE!!!!”
Actually, md is not stupid enough to discount any source of information……all one has to do hiram is follow that info further to see if it is true……
Ignorance and an agenda usually stops folks from going any further though……..
DannyX
July 7th, 2012
12:38 pm
“md is googling, copying and pasting right wing nonsense guys.”
Yes he is, then he has a fainting spell when you don’t play his game.
Republicans hate regulation and have done everything in their power to stop it.
Bernie
July 7th, 2012
12:38 pm
Mitt may put Lipstick on the PIG with RUBIO, but its still a PIG!
hiram
July 7th, 2012
12:38 pm
md, You google good…
Bernie
July 7th, 2012
12:39 pm
td @ – 12:30 pm, You are betrayed by your own words! LOL!
td
July 7th, 2012
12:40 pm
hiram
July 7th, 2012
12:37 pm
But, I’m pretty sure that td just makes his right wing nonsense up as he goes along.
I guess you would rather attack the messenger then to click on the provided link with the proof but hey what should one expect from the blame party.
Cynthia Tucker McKinney
July 7th, 2012
12:41 pm
Yeah!
Attack Dog
July 7th, 2012
12:42 pm
An earlier topic was referencing to which have more of an impact on current the unemployment rate, with emphasis on UNEMPLOYMENT. Private sector growth or public sector austerity were the options. 1. When public sector employees buy goods and services, they don’t go to the government store 1. Please, do not complain when miss your business flight, that causes you to lose the sale of the century, because there are not enough TSA or flight controllers.
td
July 7th, 2012
12:42 pm
Bernie
July 7th, 2012
12:39 pm
td @ – 12:30 pm, You are betrayed by your own words! LOL!
I know exactly what I said but alas you seem to be not able to read between the lines. So sorry.
Weetamoe
July 7th, 2012
12:43 pm
Funny that the first comment dismisses Rubio’s *intellectual heft,* since both the former dean and former interim dean of the Chicago law school claim that Obama is an activist merely mimicking the mannerisms of an intellectual and that the former non-tenured instructor has no intellectual curiosity. That is what a movie actor said about Bush, isn’t it? Does the political insider know that GW Bush and Laura spent the July 4th holiday in Zambia opening a health clinic and visiting orphanages?
Auntie Christ
July 7th, 2012
12:45 pm
md @ 1235: AC…..one would be wise to learn the difference between wanting all to be homeowners and wanting all to be homeowners in a well regulated system
One would be wise to learn the difference between wanting people to be home owners and claiming that he was responsible for all these people being home owners. bush claimed it was his policies that allowed these people to buy their homes. bush wouldn’t lie would he? please don’t tell me bush lied, it would break my heart.
md
July 7th, 2012
12:48 pm
Here hiram, just for you…..if there wasn’t a problem, I’m guessing the SEC wouldn’t be pressing charges now….right?
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2011/2011-267.htm
td
July 7th, 2012
12:49 pm
Auntie Christ
July 7th, 2012
12:45 pm
Where is the difference for taking credit for home ownership and taking credit for creating 41 straight months of private sector jobs?
hiram
July 7th, 2012
12:49 pm
td said:
I guess you would rather attack the messenger then to click on the provided link with the proof but hey what should one expect from the blame party.
td, When your arguments always employ simpleton words like libs, dems, blame party, and you never say anything of substance about any issue, it’s difficult to take you serious. But, at least you aren’t ignorant and arrogant, like your friend.
md
July 7th, 2012
12:51 pm
“When public sector employees buy goods and services, they don’t go to the government store ”
And where do they get their salaries to begin with??
Yep, that would be the private sector………..
md
July 7th, 2012
1:04 pm
“Please, do not complain when miss your business flight, that causes you to lose the sale of the century, because there are not enough TSA or flight controllers.”
Please do not complain that businesses are not hiring because they are having to pay their expenses (yes, tax is just an expense on the books) in order to keep their doors open….
Cynthia Tucker McKinney
July 7th, 2012
1:06 pm
I wanna discuss how great the Owebama economy is. I think we should praise how he kept unemployment under 8%. How Owebama shut down Git’mo and cut the debt in half. If any of yall try to debate these facts you are racist and have you’re hate on.
hiram
July 7th, 2012
1:06 pm
md
July 7th, 2012
12:51 pm
And where do they get their salaries to begin with??
Yep, that would be the private sector………..
Since you are so good at googling, why don’t you google the origin of the microwave, internet, satellite tv, and about a million other products produced in the private sector, that were created in the public sector.
If you want to see a zero government utopia, you should check out Somalia or East Temor. Your simplistic view of the world is unfortunatley, not uncommon.
Bernie
July 7th, 2012
1:15 pm
“Rubio is generous toward the Church of Latter Day Saints and its emphasis on family values, but he allows one uncomfortable criticism to be uttered through his beloved grandfather, who attended a single service: “He told me he would never go back because he hadn’t seen a single African American in attendance.”
This seems to be a common theme with Romney’s Campaign as well, the only people of COLOR, you will see in any of his campaigns are the SECRET SERVICE AGENTS.
cannot wait until the Republican convention, America will see the Republican Party’s true face.
Bernie
July 7th, 2012
1:16 pm
td @12:42 pm – I saw it …:)
md
July 7th, 2012
1:18 pm
hiram….you assume too much. Who ever said anything about zero gov’t??
But one does need to understand there is a balance needed to make both work, and right now we do not have that balance. The private sector can not and will not grow if the public sector is too costly….that is just basic math……….
Why do you think Stockton, CA went bankrupt?? Too much private sector or not enough?? Too much public sector or not enough??
td
July 7th, 2012
1:19 pm
hiram
July 7th, 2012
1:06 pm
“If you want to see a zero government utopia,”
Please use your google skills and show us Republicans that have said they want ZERO government. Smaller government footprint, yes. Smarter government, yes. Better define the roles and responsibilities of government, heck yes. Less power for the Federal government and more for the states, heck yes.
GaBlue
July 7th, 2012
1:28 pm
Of course Republicans don’t want ZERO government! How could they impose laws and regulations on women, and physicians who treat women, without government?
Just like they still need government’s help to punish descendents of Cubans who liked Castro (back when Grandad still had some hair on his head), they still need government to help them crawl inside a woman’s body, take control, and keep her in line, when they cannot manage to do it themselves.
Bless their hearts.
Centrist
July 7th, 2012
1:57 pm
Back to Romney VP choices (in addition to Rubio):
Ohio Sen. Rob Portman, Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, New Hampshire Sen. Kelly Ayotte, Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, and Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan are my guesses in order.
One of the large electoral states of Florida, Ohio, and Virginia would logically be flipped with such a choice. New Hampshire would flip, but too small tactically. Minnesota and Wisconsin doubtful to flip even with those choices. I don’t think Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal made the short list.
Attack Dog
July 7th, 2012
2:19 pm
Portman’s GOP was against the auto bailout, McDonnell is a negative with women, yep- NH is too small, Pawlenty couldn’t carry MN, Ryan has too much baggage, and Jindal has no value add. FL Scott is a healthcare weasel and the WS GOP has lost control. If Dixiecrats were honest with themselves, they would go with Santorum.
Buckhead Boy
July 7th, 2012
2:30 pm
Yes, td, Republicans are quite vocal about more power residing in the states — unless or until some city or state enacts sensible firearms regulation, authorizes Gay marriage, or otherwise acts contrary to the GOP agenda. You know, I can even recall the Republicans convening the US Senate in special session to try to counter a state permitting a single brain-dead person to expire.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
2:34 pm
Please use your google skills and show us Republicans that have said they want ZERO government.
Norquist wants to drown the govt. in the bathtub.
Can’t get any smaller than that.
Kris
July 7th, 2012
3:32 pm
Bernie
“OH! Please! MITT…PLEASE! choose Rubio, Nothing like having (2) two MORMONS in the WHITEHOUSE!”
Did you mean MORONS?.
It does not matter …
OBAMA 2012.
td
July 7th, 2012
3:45 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
2:34 pm
Please use your google skills and show us Republicans that have said they want ZERO government.
Norquist wants to drown the govt. in the bathtub.
Do you mean because he thinks taxes should be no more then a certain % of the GDP that the government is not going to able to provide essential services? BTW: Do you know what % (or how much of the countries total output) should go to government?
red herring
July 7th, 2012
3:49 pm
cynthia tucker mckinney –thanks for the LOL moment. m.d. your posts are over the heads of many on this board but have much substance to them. while not a big bush fan he did run the country fairly well until pelosi/reid and crews took over the house and senate for his last couple of years. then bush caved to overspending. followed shortly by obama doubling down on overspending. a large part of the mess the usa is in today was brought on by barney frank/chris dodd and the dems wanting people with $36,000 salaries to buy $450,000 homes on adjustable mortgages. then when it all went bad obama blamed bush. go figure.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
4:13 pm
Do you mean because he thinks taxes should be no more then a certain % of the GDP that the government is not going to able to provide essential services?
I said what I meant, sport.
Norquist wants to drown the govt. in the bathtub.
I don’t know how I can make that any clearer.
DannyX
July 7th, 2012
4:47 pm
“then bush caved to overspending.”
LMAO! Democrats must have held a gun to Bush’s head when he signed the unfunded socialist Medicare Part D. Democrats must of forced W to not fund the trillion dollar wars he started. Hey, maybe you can revise history and call them the “Bwany Fwank tax cuts,” instead of the “Bush” tax cuts. “The Bridge to Nowhere” Republican earmark spending can now be known as “The Bridge to Republican Utopia”
Yes, what substance, makes me feel like I’m in over my head! Massive spending + massive tax cuts = Happy Republican Days are Here Again!
Centrist
July 7th, 2012
4:59 pm
td – See what you get when you engage simple minded partisans? Why do you bother? Just skip over screen name posts you already know are a waste of time.
Michael #1
July 7th, 2012
5:13 pm
Centrist, I do that with your posts all the time.And TD’s as well. You guys have the groupthink going on quite well. BTW, how many Latino’s do you see at republican get togethers. Two or three?
hiram
July 7th, 2012
5:16 pm
red herring
July 7th, 2012
3:49 pm
“…a large part of the mess the usa is in today was brought on by barney frank/chris dodd and the dems wanting people with $36,000 salaries to buy $450,000 homes on adjustable mortgages.”
This is Murdoch’s and Rush’s most repeated talking point, and is the sum of all their devoted listeners know about “the mess the usa is int today”.
hiram
July 7th, 2012
5:20 pm
@michael
Centrist’s posts are straight off of right wing sites and represent their daily spin. td just makes it up.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
5:29 pm
td – See what you get when you engage simple minded partisans?
Engaging = wanting me to defend a position that I did not take.
Too funny!
I may have been born at night, but it wasn’t last night, sport.
Hot Dog
July 7th, 2012
6:19 pm
Hey
td,
July 7th, 2012
11:44 am
Oh yes, Southern Baptist would much rather vote for a person that believes in Liberation theology and its social justice (equal outcomes) and at worst is a hidden Muslim.
Yes, we have a winner here.
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Now we know why America is so flawed..You would not know a Muslim from a SKINHEAD if he bit you! When are you going to tell everyone that are a member of the KKK. You apparently thought no one knew but, you were wrong! You have been observed at the meetings. It’s time you took off that sheet and show everyone who you really are!
LOSER!
As for Marco LOSIO, even the used car salesman can’t be that stupid to pick someone who has credibility issues within his own family…. I and the rest of the world, though the Hillbillies from Wasilla were the comedy of the century! Sarah, First Dude, Trag, Trit, Bristol, Willow and I almost forgot, Levi Johnson! What a joke!
Another bunch of LOSERS!
SO SPEAKS HOT DOG!
Attack Dog
July 7th, 2012
6:26 pm
Debating which comes first, private sector versus public sector was done two centuries ago, when the phrase “public good” was defined. 1. The reason why unions are not as relevant today is because government (the people) passed laws that has addressed many (not all)of their issues. Not because free-market aristocrats gave a darn. 2. The reason why your homeowner’s insurance is lower is because the people built fire stations. Not because plutocratic aristocrats cared. 3. The reason why you don’t have your so called money hidden in your back yard is because the people formed the FDIC that just ate $75 million in a small town that 99% of Georgians have never heard of. Not because finanical aristocrat gave a darn. 4. Sometime you should watch Gene Autry and then tell me who you relate to, Gene or the “towns people.” 5. Since most people would not recognize Rubio, I dare him to spend two weeks not wearing a suit and driving an older model pickup truck in Utah or Arizona. 6. Folk now talk about Stockton, but I remember that liberal-based city of Birmingham. 7. Fingers locked…will wait for the next subject.
td
July 7th, 2012
6:53 pm
Attack Dog
July 7th, 2012
6:26 pm
The government you described was 1/4 the size and power of our current government. So I can live with a government to be reduced to the size of the government that gave us all those things can you?
md
July 7th, 2012
6:58 pm
I haven’t seen anybody advocating for no gov’t….why the red herring?
But size of gov’t has a direct relationship to growth of the private sector…..when it becomes too costly, both wither and die……….
Greece is a case study……or try Stockton, CA……….running out of private sector money is a possibility and reality……….
Bernie
July 7th, 2012
8:21 pm
Kris @ 3:32 pm – We have already had the MORONS, they are the ones that got us into to this mess and are OBSTRUCTING NOW! Then they demand PRES. OBAMA to turn it around in four (4) years, all the while blocking his every legislation at every turn.
The most TREASONOUS CONGRESS EVER! in this GREAT NATION’S History!
Bernie
July 7th, 2012
8:24 pm
red herring @ 3:49 pm – What an appropriate USER NAME. Comments are delusional
and far from realty as things happened, too! GEEZ!
Winnie
July 7th, 2012
8:27 pm
That “young cross cultural politician” you speak of, Jim turned out to be a garden variety hard core lefty seemingly dedicated to the politics of divison. Whatever promise Barack Obama once appeared to offer, the reality is pretty awful.
td
July 7th, 2012
8:29 pm
Bernie
July 7th, 2012
8:21 pm
What complete and moronic nonsense. Obama had 2 years of total control of Congress and accomplished very little besides increasing the debt by more the $1 trillion to pay his supporters and allowing government to take control of 20% of the nations economy.
He has no leadership skills and his policy agenda is so far to the left that all 414 members of Congress voted no on his latest budget.
KrystalsBalls
July 7th, 2012
8:31 pm
For ALL the rhetoric, whining, insults, delegitimization and on and on from the HATERS of President Obama (who yes, truly only have a problem with the Black man living and GOVERNING the nation from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue), come about 11 PM Eastern Daylight Savings Time your life will become a living hell! It is at that time that you will realize that like a spot on your lung, you will for the rest of your life carry around the stress of knowing that this man (in spite of all your hatred, lies, misrepresentation, voter suppression attempts, and everything else), CONQUERED and reclaimed the Presidency yet again – destroying your narrative and helping you realize just how insignificant you and your opinions really are. The only thing that you could hope for is that the “U.S. History” books will omit as much information as possible about this man and his historical accomplishment so that the cycle of White supremacy may thrive in your future generations, that you may in your grave “rest in peace”. Living with that level of stress and harboring such seething hatred is such an unfathomable thing, yet it is very real in too many of you.
I will be here to remind you of it intensely the morning of Nov. 7th.
Rich
July 7th, 2012
8:39 pm
I think Condi is very vulnerable to criticism about how she handled 9/11 and the media.
Press Secretary and official White House Ari Fleischer said, “The president did not receive information about the use of airplanes as missiles by suicide bombers. This was a new type of attack that was not foreseen.”
This was followed by Condoleeza Rice, who seem to repeat the spin: “I don’t think that anyone could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center.” Bush himself issued a statement that he had no indication beforehand that “terrorists would hijack jets and deliberately crash them.”
Planes have used as weapons for decades, and they was plenty enough intelligence to indicate terrorist were looking at them, as a possible tool of destruction. And, hijacking has long been a problem in this world. So…. what was Condi doing, spinning ignorance, or her party’s line?
td
July 7th, 2012
8:43 pm
KrystalsBalls
July 7th, 2012
8:31 pm
More moronic nonsense being spewed by a leftest that only sees the world in colors.
I have read and seen more pure hate thrown at GWB by the left then Obama could possibly imagine. If Obama had the actual hate thrown his way that you suggest then he would be hid in a closet in the White House fearing for his own life.
hiram
July 7th, 2012
8:45 pm
td, Have you ever thought about getting your own right wing radio talk show, where you can share all of your fabrications with hillbillies who don’t know any better?
td
July 7th, 2012
8:54 pm
hiram
July 7th, 2012
8:45 pm
Fabrications? Yes let us talk about the fabrication that white people are only campaigning against Obama because they are racist? Maybe we can talk about the fabrication that Obama has excellent leadership ability or that he has no responsibility for anything that happens?
double
July 7th, 2012
8:59 pm
Don’t think I would bet the farm.Maybe the ramp patch.
He’s An American Nighmare To His Own People
July 7th, 2012
9:00 pm
Rubio is a turncoat.
Rubio is a sellout.
Rubio has stabbed his own race in the back.
Rubio has thrown his own race under the bus.
Rubio is self serving.
Rubio wants to be a caucasian.
Rubio is ashamed of his heritage.
Rubio is being used.
Rubio will never be one of them as long as his name is R-U-B-I-O.
deegee
July 7th, 2012
9:07 pm
Does anyone really think that Mitt is going to pick out his running mate? Mitt had trouble picking out a chocolate covered doughnut. Mitt’s handlers will pick his running mate. Under pressure, Mitt will have to concentrate on getting the nominee’s name right.
He’s An American Nighmare To His Own People
July 7th, 2012
9:08 pm
@hiram
July 7th, 2012
8:45 pm
td, Have you ever thought about getting your own right wing radio talk show, where you can share all of your fabrications with hillbillies who don’t know any better?
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Unintelligent people always look for a scapegoat.
He’s An American Nighmare To His Own People
July 7th, 2012
9:11 pm
@deegee
July 7th, 2012
9:07 pm
Does anyone really think that Mitt is going to pick out his running mate? Mitt had trouble picking out a chocolate covered doughnut. Mitt’s handlers will pick his running mate. Under pressure, Mitt will have to concentrate on getting the nominee’s name right.
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Myth’s billionaire donors will pick his running mate.
Myth has sold out to the HIGHEST BIDDER.
KrystalsBalls
July 7th, 2012
9:11 pm
There is in fact no “fabrication” that “white people are campaigning against Obama because they are racist”. Obama would not be in the “White House” if not for all the “White” support he captured (and maintains). However, ANY halfway intelligent and principled person can detect underlying racist motives in people’s expressions based on their language and placing them in CONTEXT with past and present events, and performaning LOGICAL comparison. Having a brain and an ability to actually use it is a wonderful thing!
President Obama does not have to resort to “hiding in a closet” because he like all Presidents is afforded secret service protection, wears a bullet proof vest and all those things. A president knows what he signs up for, and surely this President did understanding the history of this country. Whether you can deal with those truths or not is YOUR issue. Nice try at attempting to trivialize the argument with the Bush delfection. Bush was never subjected to the overtly racial and hostile depictions, verbal attacks, upstages and other things during his tenure. I can waste my time giving a full rundown of the list, but it is as I said (with you) a waste of time.
md
July 7th, 2012
9:11 pm
Wow, I’ve seen the race card played many times on blogs, but never as four of a kind……..yes, bigotry is alive and well but some need to look in the mirror to see it……..
Rick
July 7th, 2012
9:16 pm
OMG!!!! the racist rantfest here is UNf—king believable! He’s a very sexy guy. what’s not to like?
larry
July 7th, 2012
9:20 pm
ROMNEY LOSES MY VOTE IF HE PICKS RUBIO!!
WHAT HAS RUBIO DID IN LIFE ?
HE SHOULD NOT BE NEXT INLINE TO POSSESS THE FOOTBALL !!
HIRE A MILITARY VETERAN TO RUN WITH YOU MITT !!!
Kris
July 7th, 2012
9:20 pm
HA Smitty pick a running mate….Hes so out of touch with the world, someone to bring him inside when it rains. Just like a Turkey he would open his mouth and drown..
As for Rubio….almost as as big of a joke as newt.
Re-elect President OBAMA
td
July 7th, 2012
9:28 pm
KrystalsBalls
July 7th, 2012
9:11 pm
You do understand that Obama is in the White house due to White people? Blacks represent 13% of the population and 50% of them live in the south. If you break it down then only 7% of the total votes that counted for Obama was cast by blacks. Since Obama carried about 53% of the total vote then that means 40% of all votes cast for Obama was cast by non blacks. Yes, I can see where you can see racism in those facts.
He’s An American Nighmare To His Own People
July 7th, 2012
9:30 pm
@md
July 7th, 2012
9:11 pm
Wow, I’ve seen the race card played many times on blogs, but never as four of a kind……..yes, bigotry is alive and well but some need to look in the mirror to see it……..
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Republicans are always accusing others of playing the race card.
All the while they have been dealing from the bottom of the deck.
And what about the TAINTED TEA?
Myth Romney is Lord of the Flies.
KrystalsBalls
July 7th, 2012
9:32 pm
@md
Yes, those of us bold enough to actually provide concrete examples of bigotry aimed at others are perfectly comfortable with being labeled as “bigots” ourselves, or “race hustlers” and all that other garbage. It’s right out of your playbook. We know it’s bunk. It’s kinda like blaming a woman for the way she was dressed for being raped. It’s usually he rapist that does such a thing – more comprative analysis for you, to support the argument.
As for Rubio, he won’t be Romney’s running mate. Really, it doesn’t matter who his running mate is because Mitt Romney for all his rhetoric simply desires to try to win the office by bombarding the public with money in pushing a message of “things are bad, it doesn’t have to be this way”. Yeah, no —-! What are YOU going to do to improve the situation, beyond “lowering taxes” ( which have been “low” for 10 years) yet we are where we are? *crickets*
He’s An American Nighmare To His Own People
July 7th, 2012
9:32 pm
@td
July 7th, 2012
9:28 pm
KrystalsBalls
July 7th, 2012
9:11 pm
You do understand that Obama is in the White house due to White people? Blacks represent 13% of the population and 50% of them live in the south. If you break it down then only 7% of the total votes that counted for Obama was cast by blacks. Since Obama carried about 53% of the total vote then that means 40% of all votes cast for Obama was cast by non blacks. Yes, I can see where you can see racism in those facts.
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No one said that ALL white people are RACISTS.
Just the MAJORITY ARE.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
9:33 pm
Obama had 2 years of total control of Congress…
Not intended to be a factual statement.
He’s An American Nighmare To His Own People
July 7th, 2012
9:37 pm
@Rick
July 7th, 2012
9:16 pm
OMG!!!! the racist rantfest here is UNf—king believable! He’s a very sexy guy. what’s not to like?
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There are leaders……
and
There are Rublicans
He’s An American Nighmare To His Own People
July 7th, 2012
9:42 pm
@Rick
July 7th, 2012
9:16 pm
OMG!!!! the racist rantfest here is UNf—king believable! He’s a very sexy guy. what’s not to like?
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CORRECTION
There are leaders……
and
There are Republicans
KrystalsBalls
July 7th, 2012
9:43 pm
Yeah td, thanks for supporting (and parroting) MY point! I don’t have a problem with White people, just the racist ones. This same statement applies to any race by the way. It is the THEIR rhetoric and attitudes that are easily identifiable. There are things that Black people who support Obama disagree with or are unhappy with, and do. It stands to reason the same would be true for other races as well. HOWEVER, there is a distinct difference in the disposition and language that a person who simply has a problem with the man’s phenotype uses when compared to an individual who disagrees with his presidential policies. I do not expect you to even understand the concept.
td
July 7th, 2012
9:45 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
9:33 pm
Obama had 2 years of total control of Congress…
Not intended to be a factual statement.
Really? Name another President in the past 50 years that had 60 Senate votes for a year and 59 votes for another year? Clinton did not and look at what he accomplished (most of it I did not agree with), Reagan did not even have Republicans control either house for 8 years and look at what he accomplished. What has Obama done?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
9:52 pm
Really?
Really.
Democrats don’t walk lock step like Republicans have since St. Ronnie-of-the-RayGun.
You got more projection than an IMAX theater goin’ on.
Just sayin’.
td
July 7th, 2012
9:56 pm
KrystalsBalls
July 7th, 2012
9:43 pm
Oh please with the Bull. Obama is a far left progressive at best and probably a Marxist leaning/ Socialist. He is farther to the left philosophically then any President we have had since FDR. This is a much bigger problem then any perceived “racism” for people to not only not support him but to despise him as the President. If people were truly bigoted or your words racist towards him then they would also attack him personally and I frankly seen less personal attacks against Obama then any President in my lifetime.
Now chew on those facts for a while and come back with some racism argument.
He’s An American Nighmare To His Own People
July 7th, 2012
9:58 pm
@td
July 7th, 2012
9:45 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
9:33 pm
Obama had 2 years of total control of Congress…
Not intended to be a factual statement.
Really? Name another President in the past 50 years that had 60 Senate votes for a year and 59 votes for another year? Clinton did not and look at what he accomplished (most of it I did not agree with), Reagan did not even have Republicans control either house for 8 years and look at what he accomplished. What has Obama done?
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The difference is that Reagan and Clinton caucasian.
Clinton did the most unspeakable thing a president could possibly do in the
white house.
He had SEX in the oval office.
A white president can get away with MURDER yet a BLACK man
has to be PERFECT in the eyes of other white people.
Obama HAS MORE INTEGRITY AND CLASS IN HIS LITTLE FINGER
THAN ANYONE IN CONGRESS.
Romney, Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, McConnell, Rove, Limbaugh, O’Reilly,
Hannity, Beck and the rest of those idiots cannot hold a candle to
Obama when it comes to INTEGRITY.
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 7th, 2012
9:58 pm
Obama is a far left progressive at best and probably a Marxist leaning/ Socialist.
There’s your sign.
Oy to the vey!
td
July 7th, 2012
10:02 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
9:52 pm
Really?
Really.
Democrats don’t walk lock step like Republicans have since St. Ronnie-of-the-RayGun.
You got more projection than an IMAX theater goin’ on.
Just sayin’.
More non acceptance of the facts. Go look at the votes of John McCain, the two Senators from Maine, the Senator from RI during the Bush term and I can go on. Republicans do not just vote one way. If they did then conservatives would not have made up the word RINO.
You lose again. Try another myth on now.
He’s An American Nighmare To His Own People
July 7th, 2012
10:05 pm
@td
July 7th, 2012
9:56 pm
KrystalsBalls
July 7th, 2012
9:43 pm
Oh please with the Bull. Obama is a far left progressive at best and probably a Marxist leaning/ Socialist. He is farther to the left philosophically then any President we have had since FDR. This is a much bigger problem then any perceived “racism” for people to not only not support him but to despise him as the President. If people were truly bigoted or your words racist towards him then they would also attack him personally and I frankly seen less personal attacks against Obama then any President in my lifetime.
Now chew on those facts for a while and come back with some racism argument.
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OH PLEASE WITH THE BULL.
What about the TAINTED TEA PARTY’S INSULTS?
HUH?
HUH?
What about Rusty Limbaugh’s insults.
What about the Judge who made the statement about Obama’s mother
have sex with a dog?
“YOU” people make me sick to my stomach because you think that
we are STUPID and that we have AMNESIA.
WE DON’T!
KrystalsBalls
July 7th, 2012
10:11 pm
And you see…td provides the best example (consistently) of someone who has a problem with the president’s phenotype rather than his policy. A person of this ilke would have the incapacity to actually ask: “What has Obama done?” He lacks the ability to state a single accomplishment without undermining it. You know how our eyes all roll to the back of our heads when people like Ahmadenhijad denies the holocaust happened, when I myself with my own eyes as a child recall a Jewish man who my family did business showed me his “tattoo”? That’s how this stuff comes off – all logic and reason abandoned. Let’s take BinLaden, a true racist would go to no end to undemine it with “Bush policies”. “SEALs” , yada yada. However take the fact that 911 occurred 10 full months into the Bush presiency and they will turn blue in the face trying to convince you that Bill Clinton is the reason we were attacked and should bear the responsibilty. They will in the same breath pretend that we were NOT in the midst of economic collapse when Obama took office. Again, all logic and reason abandoned. Don’t make me go get the link of Mitt Romney’s Gov. of MA video about the job trend in his state when he came under fire – the exact same scenario as the current POTUS faces. Again, that person I describe (the td type) will tell you those statements have no application. Critical thought – N/A in a xenophobe.
Kris (color blind on the race issue)
July 7th, 2012
10:15 pm
So are we to believe the first verse.
Flowers are red young man
Green leaves are green
There’s no need to see flowers any other way
Than they way they always have been seen
Or WE TO BELIEVE THE second verse
But the little boy said…
There are so many colors in the rainbow
So many colors in the morning sun
So many colors in the flower and I see every one
Put me down for the second verse.
Hope this answers any questions about RACE!
“Harry Chapin”
Re-Elect President OBAMA
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 7th, 2012
10:18 pm
Republicans do not just vote one way.
The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.
The biggest foreign policy blunder in this nation’s history.
Out of 272 ( 223 House — 49 Senate) total votes in both Houses of Congress, only 7 Republicans (3% for the math challenged) voted against invading Iraq.
You lose again.
td
July 7th, 2012
10:19 pm
He’s An American Nighmare To His Own People
July 7th, 2012
10:05 pm
What about the Limbaugh insults? Do you think Rush has insulted Obama more the Bill Clinton? Evidently you have not been listening to Rush very long.
“What about the TAINTED TEA PARTY’S INSULTS?”
What the heck are you talking about? Links please.
What about the fact that Maxine Waters said that if there was any other President in office then Obama blacks would be protesting in the streets for the total lack of attention in a economic crisis that Obama has given them?
td
July 7th, 2012
10:22 pm
Kamchak – And this proves what? That Republicans are patriotic and and voted to defend the interest of America against a dictator and not all Democrats care about the nation.
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 7th, 2012
10:27 pm
That Republicans are patriotic and and voted to defend the interest of America against a dictator…
“against a dictator”
Too funny!
Yellow cake uranium, weapons of mass destruction, we will be greeted as liberators, the war will pay for itself….
The “dictator” cared was only played after no WsMD were found.
Fool me once (didn’t happen as I wasn’t buying) shame on you, try to fool me twice — well, you’re just a tool out of your league.
td
July 7th, 2012
10:28 pm
KrystalsBalls
July 7th, 2012
10:11 pm
Is there nothing in the Obama administration that has gone wrong that is Obama’s fault?
“Pass the stimulus and unemployment will not get above 7.5%”. Is this Obama’s fault?
“Pass my healthcare bill and your premiums will not rise” Is this Obama’s fault?
“I will cut the debt in half during my first term” Is this Obama’s fault?
td
July 7th, 2012
10:36 pm
Kamchak –
Every major intelligence agency in the world said Saddam has WMD’s. Hillary Clinton, John Kerry and many other “respected” Democrats believed the information and voted to give Bush the authority to go to war. If I am not mistaken Bush received 76 votes of approval in the US Senate. I guess all these people were “fools” also. Must be nice to be a Monday morning QB.
As far as treated like liberators: Did you happen to see the reactions of the Iraq people when the American tanks rolled into Bagdad? It would have been a much easier transition if not for Iran interfering in the process.
KrystalsBalls
July 7th, 2012
10:36 pm
You see Kamchak, td provides such a great example of this person I describe. LOL
“dictator”. Rush Limbaugh likes to throw the term “Obama REGIME” around. Totally discount the fact that the man was elected in a fair and square electoral process, triumphed over many more accomplished and experienced U.S. politicians (some “heavyweights”) on both foreign and domestic policy over a 2 year period in head to head debates, etc. They have convinced themselves that he essentially picked the locks of the White House or came through a side window and has squatted there with his family for the past 3.5 years.
It is a SICKNESS, really.
KrystalsBalls
July 7th, 2012
10:41 pm
I find it HILARIOUS td that you desire for me to work overtime to find “fault” in the Obama presidency, then turn right around and give a dissertation on why the major Bush debaclle during his presidency was NOT his!! ROFLMAO
It IS. a sickness, I know.
KrystalsBalls
July 7th, 2012
10:44 pm
Love, love, LOVE ROMNEY’S (and Rubio’s) hair, by the way!
James
July 7th, 2012
10:44 pm
@ D Wright – and B.O. does? The man is a puppet. Rubio was rise to promience.
td
July 7th, 2012
10:45 pm
KrystalsBalls
July 7th, 2012
10:36 pm
“dictator”. Rush Limbaugh likes to throw the term “Obama REGIME” around.”
And what would you call it when a President goes out and tells the American people that he is going to ignore the law and do things the way he wants to do them? Is this not the same thing Nixon did?
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 7th, 2012
10:48 pm
Every major intelligence agency in the world said Saddam has WMD’s.
And they were wrong.
Hillary Clinton, John Kerry and many other “respected” Democrats believed the information and voted to give Bush the authority to go to war.
Both H. Clinton and Kerry paid the ultimate political price for it too. They both ran for president and weren’t elected.
If I am not mistaken Bush received 76 votes of approval in the US Senate.
Actually it was 77 for 23 against.
I guess all these people were “fools” also.
Absolutely.
Must be nice to be a Monday morning QB.
Not Monday morning, as I was one of the ones screaming vociferously against invading before the inspectors were order out.
As far as treated like liberators: Did you happen to see the reactions of the Iraq people when the American tanks rolled into Bagdad?
And you have failed to mention that the Iraqis most definitely didn’t want us there and fought us tooth and nail while we were there.
It would have been a much easier transition if not for Iran interfering in the process.
It would have been “most easiest” had we not invaded Iraq under false pretenses.
But you are a tool that will not even admit theses false pretenses.
Kris (color blind on the race issue)
July 7th, 2012
10:56 pm
@ td…..
Al politicians are CROOKS to some degree. Nixon (I;m not a crook” got caught..
td
July 7th, 2012
10:56 pm
I find it HILARIOUS td that you desire for me to work overtime to find “fault” in the Obama presidency, then turn right around and give a dissertation on why the major Bush debaclle during his presidency was NOT his!!
What “debacle” are you talking about. Bush made an assessment, went to Congress for authority and preceded to do what he had said he was going to do. If the Dems thought it was so bad then why did they not introduce a bill to remove the troops? Why did not Obama pull the troops out immediately when he took office. Better question is why has Obama not closed Gitmo (major campaign promise to you leftest) as he said he would?
Could it be that there is information that you and I are not aware of?
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 7th, 2012
11:00 pm
Better question is why has Obama not closed Gitmo (major campaign promise to you leftest) as he said he would?
Congress wouldn’t appropriate the funds.
The same answer every time one of you tools ask that question.
td
July 7th, 2012
11:03 pm
Kamchak -
“Not Monday morning, as I was one of the ones screaming vociferously against invading before the inspectors were order out.”
You were wrong then and you are wrong now. Bush was right and the Congress (both Republicans and Democrats) were right. BTW: The UN also gave us permission to remove Saddam and not only because of WMD’s.
“And you have failed to mention that the Iraqis most definitely didn’t want us there and fought us tooth and nail while we were there.”
Only the Islamic fundamentalist fought us. The vast majority of the population wanted us there.
RGB
July 7th, 2012
11:04 pm
With Plugs Biden as our example, everyone is qualified to be VP.
td
July 7th, 2012
11:07 pm
Kamchak –
“Congress wouldn’t appropriate the funds.”
You mean Obama did not have the leadership ability to get those 60 Democratic Senators and the overwhelming majority in the US house to vote to close Gitmo? Either this is more prove that Obama is not a leader or that you are in a small minority of the American public that is outside the mainstream of American thought?
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 7th, 2012
11:10 pm
The UN also gave us permission to remove Saddam and not only because of WMD’s.
Now you’re just making sh*t up.
Regardless of the threatened or likely vetoes, it seems that the coalition at no time was assured any more than four affirmative votes in the Council—the US, Britain, Spain, and Bulgaria—well short of the requirement for nine affirmative votes.
On September 16, 2004 Secretary-General of the United Nations Kofi Annan, speaking on the invasion, said, “I have indicated it was not in conformity with the UN Charter. From our point of view, from the charter point of view, it was illegal.”
Tool.
double
July 7th, 2012
11:10 pm
I can hear it now”mission accomplished” not gonna wager the ramp patch.
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 7th, 2012
11:13 pm
You mean Obama did not have the leadership ability to get those 60 Democratic Senators and the overwhelming majority in the US house to vote to close Gitmo?
I mean that Democrats don’t walk lock-step, as I asserted earlier.
Don’t you remember me asserting that?
Did your mama drop you on your head when you were a baby?
Did you ride the short bus to school?
KrystalsBalls
July 7th, 2012
11:13 pm
td listen… I am not even going to get into a whole discussion about “campaign promises”, what purpose they serve (for ANY politician), the calculations made which lead to the promises, and the REALITY that hits when said elected officials actually move to implement and needs the cooperation of hundreds of other politicians who have their OWN political interests and motivations. If you cannot reason through that (and I do not believe you can), then you are in bad shape. Last thing I will say…
…so Obama DID NOT assess the situation, proceed to do what he said he was going to do, and then sought the support of Congress to implement?? You see… this is your sickness that I have enjoyed highlighting this evening.
You really need to spend less time on these blogs and seek to get yourself into some formal education type of situation.
And for the record, I’m no “leftist”. Again though, I recognize the xenophobe in you. It IS a sickness. You really have needed bopsie twin “md” over this past hour or so to give you some support. Sorry to see he or she abandoned you. The last word is yours. Capable people can read and reason to decipher what’s BS and what isn’t. Good night.
marsh
July 7th, 2012
11:15 pm
Rubio, sounds like a delicious sandwich. A Cuban reuben. Yum!
marsh
July 7th, 2012
11:20 pm
td/kamcak it’s obvious u love each other.
td
July 7th, 2012
11:23 pm
Kamchak –
More excuses. Looks like to me you are confirming what I said that either Obama is not a leader or your views are outside the mainstream of American thought? If Obama could not garner the votes with such overwhelming majorities then the votes will never be had.
td
July 7th, 2012
11:28 pm
KrystalsBalls
July 7th, 2012
11:13 pm
Thank you for proving my point that since Obama could not get his agenda passed with the overwhelming Democratic majorities he had in Congress then his views must be even outside the mainstream of the Democratic party. He is well to the left of center and his policies are not right for America, so therefore, he must be defeated since this country is to the right of center.
md
July 7th, 2012
11:37 pm
“Yes, those of us bold enough to actually provide concrete examples of bigotry aimed at others are perfectly comfortable with being labeled as “bigots” ourselves, or “race hustlers” and all that other garbage.”
When one paints individuals with a broad brush, it isn’t others that have the problem……..
Moon Mullins
July 7th, 2012
11:37 pm
Regarding blacks and the Mormon church: while I am no theologian, I have it on good authority that the Mormon church leaders were led to change their policy on black church membership because they grew weary of the BYU basketball team constantly getting creamed by black teams.
double
July 7th, 2012
11:47 pm
Marsh -Barney married his lover.
KrystalsBalls
July 7th, 2012
11:57 pm
Oh @md I see you’re back. td must have sent out the S.O.S. Before I turn in, you just stated something about people who paint others with a broad brush needing to realize THEY are the problem. Do you mean like this:
“Oh, and as for latinos…..I wouldn’t count on them staying on the democratic plantation of dependence…..as they tend to have a high work ethic,..” ~md
Feel free to scroll back to page 1 to locate the actual time of your post where you said this; I copied and pasted it from there. Real quick… your broad brushing technique is QUITE impressive!!!! Sssoooo…is the idea that “Latinos” are on some sort of “plantation” as a WHOLE, or are you stereotyping others who are Democrats and as such do not have a legitimate work ethic and/or are “dependent”?? I don’t know about you, but my corporate organizational contributions are quite stellar and well documented. Sweet dreams to you as well.
md
July 8th, 2012
12:01 am
Well Kyrstal…..that opinion on latinos comes from actual voting numbers…..do you have some actual racist numbers somewhere we can look at??
md
July 8th, 2012
12:03 am
And it doesn’t take much smarts to understand that the dems are the party of enabling…..we can take it policy by policy if one would like……
KrystalsBalls
July 8th, 2012
12:18 am
I see you have that same sickness as td. I’m not sure what “numbers” I was supposed to provide, as I never made any particular claim about any particular people. I only spent the evening highlighting how the racist/xenophobe projects itself through illogic, distortion and the like…or did you miss all of that? Wait…OF COURSE YOU DID!
“dems….party of enabling” LMAO
QUITE impressive!! You must have trained with Master Wu!
Sleep (and peace) calls. Why don’t you roll over and give td a kiss good night for me, won’t you? Thanks.
KrystalsBalls
July 8th, 2012
12:23 am
Now time for some SLEEP!! Let’s see…
Romney/Rubio , Romney/Ruuubbiiooooo…
Rahmney/ rOOoobeeo
Romn…Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Edmund Ruffin
July 8th, 2012
6:57 am
Seasoned or unseasoned, what do you get? Four years ago and unseasoned, and unvetted, radical leftist was elected President. A seasoned McCain and an unseasoned Palin lost. So what’s the point?
hiram
July 8th, 2012
8:17 am
This speaks volumes…
Limbaugh: “Where Did You Get This Silly Notion That Reagan Raised Taxes?”
http://mediamatters.org/video/2011/02/04/limbaugh-where-did-you-get-this-silly-notion-th/175987
hiram
July 8th, 2012
9:18 am
The real reason why our government cannot function:
“Eric Cantor Refuses to Admit Reagan Raised Taxes”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoUcGqSLLAU
td
July 8th, 2012
10:35 am
hiram
July 8th, 2012
9:18 am
We do not have a revenue problem in this country, we have a spending problem!!!! You can tax the top 10% of the population at 100% and still not balance the budget. This is a spending problem and if we (the American people) do not realize this soon and tell our political leaders to cut spending then we will be Greece in a few years.
md
July 8th, 2012
11:10 am
“I’m not sure what “numbers” I was supposed to provide, as I never made any particular claim about any particular people.”
Maybe this will jog your memory:
“For ALL the rhetoric, whining, insults, delegitimization and on and on from the HATERS of President Obama (who yes, truly only have a problem with the Black man living and GOVERNING the nation from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue)”
So any and all the numbers you may have showing why anyone hates Obama would be a start…..especially those numbers that show they “hate” him because he is black.
md
July 8th, 2012
11:15 am
“dems….party of enabling” LMAO
Of course you are…..as an individual first has to understand that we choose EVERYTHING we do.
A little exercise for you:
Should a student that CHOOSES to study 24/7, does no partying and makes all A’s have to share those A’s with a student that CHOOSES to party 24/7, does no studying and makes all F’s??
Why or why not?
td
July 8th, 2012
11:26 am
Conservatives believe is equality of access.
Liberals believe in equality of outcomes
Conservatives believe in people taking responsibility of their actions
Liberals believe it excuses for actions
Conservatives believe there should be consequences for individual actions
Liberals believe the government should bailout individuals for the actions they take.
hiram
July 8th, 2012
11:30 am
Rush left out Goldman Sachs’ role in Greece’s and Europe’s economic debacle. Deregulating the psychopaths on Wall Street crashed the entire world’s economy.
“Goldman Sachs’ role in Greece a real scandal – early in 2010, Goldman Sachs stood accused of worse, when the bank was revealed as one of the architects of the emerging Greek disaster. Not only was it blamed for helping conceal the true state of the country’s finances, but it was accused of eventually betting against its sovereign debt, along with other major banks.”
http://www.iol.co.za/business/business-news/goldman-sachs-role-in-greece-a-real-scandal-1.1258930
Today's exploitation and plantation system is ...
July 8th, 2012
11:37 am
Welfare, HC and housing allowances and assistance programs are THE epicenter of today’s exploitation or plantation system. Look at the inner cities and the Dems promising jobs. Look at the latest highwya bill just passed with that momo rail rapid transist line from LA to SF California, the brokest of the FLAT broke welfare states.
I can prove it. If government can really create jobs and government usually being run by elected politicians, then why to we have UNEMPLOYMENT and down cycles?
Fools believe the plantation owners and their operatives like Kasim Reed, Barry Obama and Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and their allies.
DannyX
July 8th, 2012
11:39 am
“Conservatives believe in people taking responsibility of their actions”
LOL! The 4 pages of this blog is filled with conservative excuses, blaming everyone but the actual culprits for the economic collapse.
“Conservatives believe is equality of access.”
One of the strangest thing I have read in a while.
Stick to your talking points td, when you go off script you turn into a comedian.
md
July 8th, 2012
11:44 am
“The 4 pages of this blog is filled with conservative excuses, blaming everyone but the actual culprits for the economic collapse.”
An fyi…..if folks had been able to afford what they borrowed, there never would have been a bunch of bad securities……….
Which tells me it started with the individuals that bit off more than they could chew and more than likely knew it. There was only one party to the transaction that knew ALL the facts on the borrowing end ……….
Just because a mortgage lender tells one they qualify for xx # of dollars does not mean that one should borrow xx # of dollars……that is where the CHOICE comes in.
DannyX
July 8th, 2012
11:59 am
Today’s exploitation and plantation system is …
And yet Tea, California with all its problems, is still the 10th fastest growing economy in the country right now… http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2012/news/economy/1206/gallery.fastest-growing-states/10.html
How’s Georgia doing? Glad you asked, 10th slowest… http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2011/news/economy/1106/gallery.states_by_gdp_slowest_growing_state_economies/10.html
hiram
July 8th, 2012
12:14 pm
@Danny
What’s enigmatic about td, et al., is that they support a presidential candidate, who shifts his tax burden to them, with offshore companies and Swiss bank accounts, and was a pioneer in outsourcing jobs overseas. The robber barons have mastered the mind control of the serfs, via Fox “Make Believe” News and Rush, to the degree, that they enthusiastically vote against their own self interest.
marsh
July 8th, 2012
12:28 pm
hiram, td, clamtrap, danx, et al-
can’t you see, you need each other, you love each other. hug it out!
Hot Dog
July 8th, 2012
12:42 pm
Hey KrystalsBalls and hiram…td (too dumb) is jealous of the president. He has a problem with him being a person of color. In his mind, no person of color should be in a position of power. So what he does, is find people like Joe Six Pack and Marcy Trailer Trash.
His comments speaks volumes when a person of his ilk supports a LYING, HYPOCRITE AND SERIAL ADULTERER like Newt Gingrich. TD and others like him are not interested in the truth, they only want to spread more lies and hate to continue to control individuals like Joe Six Pack and March Trailer Trash. Where do you think they get the votes from?
The mindset is, all Democrats or Democrat supporters are on welfare and unemployed. What he really means is Republicans and Teapublicians (Republicans and Tea Party mixed) are the true welfare group. If you do not believe this statement, please google welfare, food stamps corporate welfare and Republicans. You would be amazed at the information you will find.
SO SPEAKS HOTDOG!
GaBlue
July 8th, 2012
12:53 pm
Just because a mortgage lender tells one they qualify for xx # of dollars does not mean that one should borrow xx # of dollars……that is where the CHOICE comes in.
EXACTLY!! The mortgage lenders, who are supposed to go to school, receive proper training, and maintain a thorough understanding of the real estate economy to do their jobs, made CHOICES too. They CHOSE to sign-off on mortgages beyond what financially UNTRAINED borrowers could handle. They know that not everyone learns finance, because some people have to learn other skills on order to make the world go around.
Why did they do this? Well, for those individuals behind the desks, it increased their monthly numbers to be sure. (Pat on the back or a sales bonus, maybe?) Why should they worry about the long-term consequences, when they get a quick “attaboy” and a commission?
As for consequences to the bank/mortgage company, the LOBBYISTS had that handled. See, somewhere along the line, they made gambling legal, so the movers & shakers could invent these little things called “derivatives.” Those high-risk, probably-not-gonna-hold-up loans were bundled and sold for profit, again and again, with the movers & shakers pocketing ca$h (and stashing it but good) along the way. Like any pyramid scheme, it all feel apart, leaving widespread property devaluation for tens of millions of Americans — even those of us who DID buy homes we could afford, and who paid diligently on time for years.
THANKS A HEAP, azzholes!