Your morning jolt: Miscreants, armed citizens clash in Athens

According to the Athens Banner-Herald, three people in Athens have used guns to halt crimes in progress recently, prompting cops to caution that a call to 911 may be safer:

“Athenians seem to be making more use of the Second Amendment these days,” said Ron Carlson, professor emeritus at the University of Georgia School of Law.

“These and other recent cases involve very different facts, but one theme resonates as a common denominator: citizens seem more ready these days to protect themselves or others who may be in mortal danger by using a gun,” Carlson said.

From Athens police:

“I believe in the Second Amendment, but I wish people wouldn’t take the law into their own hands unless it’s a direct threat where they know their life is in danger or someone else’s is,” said Capt. Clarence Holeman, commander of the Athens-Clarke police Centralized Criminal Investigations Division.

“If time permits, the appropriate thing to do would always be to call the authorities,” he said. “We’re always out there patrolling, and if someone can contact the police we can be there in a timely manner and settle matters so that citizens are not in harm’s way.”

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Georgia Tipsheet points out that Georgia’s Republican delegation in the U.S. House split over that bill passed last week that combined spending for transportation infrastructure with a compromise to keep current interest rates on student college loans:

Just 2 of Georgia’s 6 Republican Congressmen voted “yea”, with those members being Tom Price and Jack Kingston. Westmoreland, Scott, Gingrey, Graves, Woodall and Broun all veered to the right, joining 46 other Republicans in voting against the omnibus package. Meanwhile, in the Senate, both Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isakson cast ballots with the majority.

The vote comes in the wake of speculation that Congressman Westmoreland may potentially seek to lead the NRCC in 2013, as well as a push for Graves to chair the RSC (Republican Study Committee), not to mention mild VP speculation. Scott is President of the freshman class and, meanwhile, Price may have a looming opportunity to move to the fourth-ranking spot overall, Republican Conference chair.

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Just a reminder: Florida Sen. Marco Rubio will appear at a Lawrenceville bookstore Thursday to promote his new biography, “An American Son.”

The freshman U.S. senator is scheduled to appear at the Books-A-Million at Discover Mills.
Polls have shown Rubio a top pick among Republican voters when asked who they want as vice president on a presidential ticket.

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The day’s news from the Gallup organization, one week after a U.S. Supreme Court decision largely overturned states’ efforts to create a “self-deportation” climate:

A majority of U.S. Hispanics identify as political independents (51%) rather than as Democrats (32%) or Republicans (11%). However, once their partisan leanings are taken into account, most Hispanics affiliate with the Democratic Party (52%) rather than the Republican Party (23%). Both sets of numbers shift more decisively in the Democrats’ favor among the roughly half of U.S. Hispanics who are registered to vote.

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The following is relevant in that the fellow in question has a long history of involvement in Republican TV campaigns in Georgia. From the Los Angeles Times:

LAS VEGAS — He’s not a witch.

Nor, Fred Davis wants the world to know, is he a racist.

Humbled, humiliated, saddened and chagrined, the Republican ad maker recently sagged into a chair in a noisy Las Vegas restaurant and for more than an hour talked about May 17, a date that will forever be ringed in red as one of personal infamy.

That day the New York Times published on its front page details of a proposed Davis-run campaign against President Obama, focusing on the incendiary Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., the president’s former pastor, “in a big, attention-arresting way.”

The intent, a do-over of sorts, was to “inflame … questions” about Obama’s character and competence. A 54-page outline, leaked to the newspaper by someone apprehensive of the plan, was very much like Davis himself: jokey, irreverent and a bit out there.

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Over at ATLawblog, Kathleen Baydala Joyner reports that Bill Hamrick, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, is on a short list of six candidates to replace Coweta Circuit Superior Court Judge William Lee Jr., who resigned in April as he was being investigated for a conflict of interest.

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The following was posted by former Atlanta city council president Cathy Woolard on her Facebook page over the weekend:

Taking an out of town friend to the ga aquarium. Distressed to see there is trash on the ground everywhere. What’s up, Aquarium folks, ya’ll can’t afford people to keep the place looking good[?] And ATL families, really you can’t put a coke bottle in a trashcan right next to you? We can do better than this.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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31 comments Add your comment

The Ghost of Lester Maddox

July 2nd, 2012
9:53 am

That post about the trashy area around the Aquarium by the former ALT City Council President is a classic, Jim.

Gosh, she was in a good mood…..to only notice the trash….her good mood apparently had her overlooking the panhandlers, the traffic, the poorly designed way that all tourist attractions are crammed into one tight corner of downtown (with more to come), the mismatched timing of traffic signals in the area, the potholes, the lovely way that ATL traffic (quote) workers (quote) have of closing lanes of traffic for months on end…..and on and on.

Little wonder the Aquarium lacks for repeat visitors.

double

July 2nd, 2012
10:01 am

Taking law into own hands will only fatten the lawyers.The hispanics work hard and appear to be intelligent when voting.

Attack Dog

July 2nd, 2012
10:08 am

You have the right to bear arms, but you don’t have the right for treatment if you get shot.

Shar

July 2nd, 2012
10:13 am

Ah, Mr. Davis. It’s so easy to get caught up in one’s enthusiasms and forget one of those basic rules our mothers taught us – ‘Don’t do anything you don’t want to see on the front page of the newspaper.’

Auntie Christ

July 2nd, 2012
10:13 am

Lester’s ghost: she probably didn’t notice because she got to the aquarium the way any sensible person going to the Dome, Philips Arena or CNN center gets there, via MARTA. You’re just the exurbian type the ITP folks like me love. You drive your smog, noise and gridlock creating vehicle into town, leave your trash everywhere except the proper bins, then go back home to complain about the people, traffic, noise, and aesthetic conditions in downtown ATL.

td

July 2nd, 2012
10:14 am

Attack Dog

July 2nd, 2012
10:08 am

You have the right to bear arms, but you don’t have the right for treatment if you get shot.

Bogus statement. Everyone (even illegals) have the right to emergency care.

Diane

July 2nd, 2012
10:33 am

ER treatment , yes, but not the rest of it, and thanks to Obama ACA care you will have to contribute to its cost if you don’t carry health insurance.

ITP

July 2nd, 2012
10:34 am

@ Auntie Christ – “You’re just the exurbian type…leave your trash everywhere except the proper bins,…”

Exactly how do you know that the OTP folks leave the trash and not the ITP folks? Are you monitoring license plates and activities of visitors? You do a lot of posting on the AJC and this wasn’t one of your finer.

PMC

July 2nd, 2012
10:34 am

Thought this was going to be about Greece.

PMC

July 2nd, 2012
10:36 am

If Athens cops spent less time worrying about arresting football players maybe they would have more time for 911 calls.

Road Scholar

July 2nd, 2012
10:38 am

Americans and Atlantans are pigs. Just look at the trash strewn along our highways, streets, parks, rivers… They don’t want government to pay but who do they think picks up their sh!t? In poor neighborhoods and people w/o jobs does not give them a license to litter. If you don’t have a job…at least you could clean up your neighborhoods! And this is not just happening in poor neighborhoods. I have neighbors in our cluster home development that think the street gutter is their yard waste trash can…clean it up!

Real Athens

July 2nd, 2012
10:40 am

“speculation that Congressman Westmoreland may potentially seek to lead the NRCC in 2013, as well as a push for Graves to chair the RSC (Republican Study Committee), not to mention mild VP speculation. Scott is President of the freshman class and, meanwhile, Price may have a looming opportunity to move to the fourth-ranking spot overall, Republican Conference chair.”

Evidence that the GOP is moving even further away from the mainstream. It begs the question how many Americans (outside of Georgia) will move with it. For all the potential the South holds to rise to prominence economically it seems we’re determined to beat it back with our own fickle demagoguery.

Westmoreland and Price as “leaders”? Only in Georgia.

Road Scholar

July 2nd, 2012
10:42 am

ITP: Isn’t it interesting how people with pick up trucks throw their trash in the bed…..and then it vanishes…just vanishes when they get to their destinations?

Idiots, it blows out as you travel down the road! Most pickups are OTP.

Tom

July 2nd, 2012
10:44 am

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

clyde

July 2nd, 2012
10:50 am

I thought a pick-up was an automatic trash disposer.

“If time permits.call the authorities”.I will do that.If time doesn’t permit.I’ll call them later.

Baron DeKalb

July 2nd, 2012
10:52 am

I don’t know whether it’s “us” or “them” that’s throwing the litter on the ground, but everyone who drives contributes to air pollution, which should be a major concern to anyone who cares about quality of life here in Atlanta. Before you start pointing the finger why don’t you take a close look at what kinds of waste you are contributing to our shared environment.

the cat

July 2nd, 2012
10:54 am

I am not convinced Marco Rubio is an American citizen.

Centrist

July 2nd, 2012
11:01 am

Galloway points out the obvious: “Democrats’ favor among the roughly half of U.S. Hispanics who are registered to vote”.

Democrats promise more in taxpayer transfer payments, exemption from taxation (lower half of income earners), discussion of the Dream act (even though D.O.A in the House), and nonprosecutorial amnesty for their ILLEGAL friends and family.

Auntie Christ

July 2nd, 2012
11:12 am

Galloway points out the obvious: Well if it’s that obvious, why do you feel compelled to point it out? Are you the department of redundancy department?

Doesn’t matter if the Dream Act is DOA, an Executive Order that prevents children who have never been farther south than Loganville, from being sent to a country alien to them, has been implemented. This was the most odious aspect of the current ICE enforcement. For the first time since raygun’s administration, a positive step has been taken. Hispanics compare this to the hateful rhetoric coming from the repubs, that is why they would favor a dem

Weetamoe

July 2nd, 2012
11:24 am

There is a grouchy old lady commenting on this site–or maybe one of the ajc employees worried about her job.
Georgia Tech students are being robbed at gunpoint. Looks like University of Georgia athletes are supplying the weapons.

Auntie Christ

July 2nd, 2012
11:40 am

One man’s grouchy old lady is another man’s dear ole auntie. (just for clarification dear ole auntie christ is a male. I use the feminine monilker so I can stay in touch with my feminine side, and because I am a lesbian in a man’s body).

WOW

July 2nd, 2012
11:46 am

@ the cat

LMBO
Where is his birth certificate? College transcripts?

the cat

July 2nd, 2012
11:54 am

WOW-I am not being facetious. Rubios’ parents are Cuban, how did he become a citizen if he was not born here?

Jesus Christ crushes perverted NWO, DBMs

July 2nd, 2012
12:03 pm

When citizens and the legal system itself have been deliberately dumbed down to the point of inadequately distinguishing or willfully perverting constitutional vs. unconstitutional, justice vs. injustice, good vs. evil, etc, it is the right and duty of the capable remnant to forceful establish justice i.e. by any means necessary.

Amen?

Auntie Christ

July 2nd, 2012
12:10 pm

The discussion of Marco Rubio and the repub rhetoric about sending ALL the illegals bac to where they came from, takes me back to a time long ago when the right wing loved illegal aliens, and criticized unmercifully the action to send them home. Well, let me clarify, they didn’t love ALL illegals, just one, Elian Gonzales. Poor little Elian wanted to go home, his father wanted him to come home, but the right wing screamed “No, you little illegal alien, we won’t let you go home! You are a political asset, we must use you for propaganda purposes!” But alas, the Clinton administration let him go home, and the right wing excoriated Clinton in the vilest terms, and if they could have registered every illegal in Miami to vote, they would gladly have done it.

So Obama issued an executive order that lets all the illegal alien children stay here, and he is excoriated in vilest terms by the right wing. It would be nice if the conservatives made up their mind.

WOW

July 2nd, 2012
12:18 pm

He was born in Miami. I think the larger question would be if he is a “natural born citizen’ since his parents were not citizens until a few years after he was born.

I think he does qualify, its just funny to see the argument turned on a conservative.

Jesus Christ crushes perverted NWO, DBMs

July 2nd, 2012
12:24 pm

Some of our citizens have been deliberately dumbed down or have willfully perverted themselves to the point of not properly distinguishing between a misdemeanor or felony, a dollar or a million dollars, a person or millions of persons.

For many of them, there is no qualitative or quantitative difference.

Amen?

Attack Dog

July 2nd, 2012
12:31 pm

Liberals say you have a right to treatment if you get shot, conservatives say it is a priviledge if you can pay for it. This is what the healthcare debate is about.

The Goobernator

July 2nd, 2012
12:39 pm

Paging Ms. Woolard!
instead of, “And ATL families, really you can’t put a coke bottle in a trashcan right next to you?”
You should ask:
“And ATL families, really you can’t put a coke bottle in a RECYCLING BIN right next to you?”

Cathy Woolard

July 2nd, 2012
5:40 pm

Goobernator – you are right – the recycling bins and the trash cans are side by side. But as nasty as it was, I’d settle for hitting one of the two.

Big Hat

July 2nd, 2012
8:18 pm

When everyone has a gun, we won’t need cops…or lawyers, judges, sheriffs or jails. Then all those losers can get real jobs like the rest of us. 2nd Amendment today, 2nd Amendment tomorrow, 2nd Amendment forever.