Jimmy Carter: Drone killings aid enemy, alienate friends

Jimmy Carter isn’t too thrilled with the idea of President Barack Obama – who comes to Atlanta today — picking individual winners and losers in the war on terror. From the Monday op-ed by the former president in the New York Times:

Revelations that top officials are targeting people to be assassinated abroad, including American citizens, are only the most recent, disturbing proof of how far our nation’s violation of human rights has extended. This development began after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and has been sanctioned and escalated by bipartisan executive and legislative actions, without dissent from the general public. As a result, our country can no longer speak with moral authority on these critical issues….

Recent legislation has made legal the president’s right to detain a person indefinitely on suspicion of affiliation with terrorist organizations or “associated forces,” a broad, vague power that can be abused without meaningful oversight from the courts or Congress (the law is currently being blocked by a federal judge)….

Despite an arbitrary rule that any man killed by drones is declared an enemy terrorist, the death of nearby innocent women and children is accepted as inevitable. After more than 30 airstrikes on civilian homes this year in Afghanistan, President Hamid Karzai has demanded that such attacks end, but the practice continues in areas of Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen that are not in any war zone. We don’t know how many hundreds of innocent civilians have been killed in these attacks, each one approved by the highest authorities in Washington. This would have been unthinkable in previous times….

The man sounds downright libertarian. But Carter isn’t alone. Three days ago, former U.S. senator Fritz Hollings of South Carolina declared killing by drone to be “un-American.”

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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27 comments Add your comment

Bob

June 26th, 2012
8:22 am

Boy this is a tough one.

Ususally Carter and Obama are wrong 99.9% of the time.

So what should I think when they disagree on something?

td

June 26th, 2012
8:38 am

So true Bob. I think I might have to take Obama’s side on this one since all he is doing is following the Bush doctrine.

Just a taxpayer

June 26th, 2012
8:49 am

Bob and TD:
Taking a position only because it is contrarian isn’t thinking. It is reacting. Try thinking, it’s enlightening.

TomT

June 26th, 2012
8:51 am

“It’s BUSH’S fault.” Nice one, except maybe you can explain the difference:
Bush – prisoners of war to figure out what to do with – accused of rendition and harsh interrogation
Obama – 0 (ZERO) prisoners of war – at war in several more countries

And, how’s that KNEEJERK condition coming?

History Will Teach Us if we Will Learn

June 26th, 2012
8:54 am

I think old Fritz has it right when he concluded his remarks with,”a panel in the House of Representatives has just found the Attorney General in contempt of Congress. I hope in November the people will find Congress in contempt of the people. All Congress does is play politics. It fundraises around the clock and makes sure that it doesn’t vote for anything that could cost votes in its re-election. It’s time we act like Americans and demand that Congress represents the country rather than themselves.”

td

June 26th, 2012
8:57 am

History Will Teach Us if we Will Learn

June 26th, 2012
8:54 am

Sounds a whole lot like what Obama has been doing for the past 4 years. You forgot to add 100 rounds of golf.

td

June 26th, 2012
9:00 am

Just a taxpayer

June 26th, 2012
8:49 am

What? I did take a position. I took Obama’s side on this one because he is following the policies of President that had a pair and was not afraid to use them.

John

June 26th, 2012
9:03 am

Murdering innocents in cold blood isn’t “having a pair”. It is “being a psychopath”.

DannyX

June 26th, 2012
9:07 am

“I took Obama’s side on this one because he is following the policies of President that had a pair and was not afraid to use them.”

When will we see Bush and his pair out on the campaign trail helping out Romney?

Speaking of pairs, Romney is a little light in that department. He runs away from issues faster than a Bush chicken hawk supporter running away from the recruitment office.

Church of the painful Truth

June 26th, 2012
9:10 am

Jimmy you are so right !! Now does that make you feel better or some how puts you in charge again? Come on, go back to Plains and enjoy retirement.

td

June 26th, 2012
9:20 am

DannyX

June 26th, 2012
9:07 am

“When will we see Bush and his pair out on the campaign trail helping out Romney?”

You will not because ex Republican Presidents believe that if you hold the position of President then you should be a statesman and above petty partisan politics. Bush will have a speech at the convention (following the precedents set by Ford, Reagan, and GHWB) where he will endorse Romney.

It is only ex Democratic Presidents that belittle the office they once held.

td

June 26th, 2012
9:22 am

John

June 26th, 2012
9:03 am

Murdering innocents in cold blood isn’t “having a pair”. It is “being a psychopath”.

It is called WAR. When will you pinko’s realize that there are several million Islamic extremist that wants all Americans to die?

Marlboro Man

June 26th, 2012
9:24 am

Scaredy cats.

John

June 26th, 2012
9:29 am

td:

There are also several million American extremists that want all Muslims to die. What is your point?

MY point is simple: peace. We had ZERO reason to venture into Asia over the last decade. ZERO. Yet we did, and in the process murdered hundreds of thousands of innocents in cold blood – women, children, infants, even innocent adult men. What would YOU do if the Chinese did to us exactly what we have done in the Middle East? A: You would (rightfully at that point) want to do whatever it took to stop them – including killing as many of them as possible. And you’d use any possible rationalization you could find to justify your blood lust.

Murder only begets murder. An eye for an eye only leaves the whole frakkin world blind. We CLAIM to be the better people.

It is time for us to put up or shut up.

carlosgvv

June 26th, 2012
9:31 am

John – 9:29

When you’re faced with two options, bad and worse, you choose bad.

gm

June 26th, 2012
9:41 am

3 years ago Americans were scared to board planes, trains, boats, alert codes were every day, this great President reduce American fear by killing terrorist and taking care of business, there should not be no one in this country taking shots at the job this man has done on keeping America safe.

What a bunch of ungratful Americans”””””

td

June 26th, 2012
9:46 am

John

June 26th, 2012
9:29 am

1: Our entire economy is driven by oil. We have received about 30 to 40% of our oil from the middle east, so for you to say that we had no interest in the middle east is naive at best and just plain unintelligent at worst.

2: We a vital interest in protecting our biggest friend and ally in the region. We have made a commitment to Israel since the end of WW2 that we will protect their right to live and stay on their land.

There are two major reasons to be involved in the middle east, now you can try to deny them if you want too but those are the facts and we will never be out of the area.

DannyX

June 26th, 2012
9:47 am

“You will not because ex Republican Presidents believe that if you hold the position of President then you should be a statesman and above petty partisan politics.”

That is very funny td. Lets take a closer look at modern Republican presidential history…

Nixon- Only president to resign the office. Left for self imposed exile, disgraced.
Ford- Only President not elected. Part timer. People just wanted to forget. Reagan didn’t like him.
Reagan- Couldn’t campaign for Bush Sr because he was suffering from dementia
Bush Sr.- One term president, not liked.
Bush W- Like Nixon left office in disgrace, still in seclusion.

On the other hand if Romney does allow W to speak at the convention in prime time maybe he does have a pair after all.

td

June 26th, 2012
9:57 am

DannyX

June 26th, 2012
9:47 am

So Carter left office with high approval ratings? GWB is only a “disgrace” to you far left loons.

GaBlue

June 26th, 2012
12:18 pm

It’s bad karma.

From one who served in an area with "drones"

June 26th, 2012
12:29 pm

I suggest that all those who oppose killing by drones be the first to volunteer to pick up a rifle and go into denied territory and do it themselves. Better yet, volunteer to stand on one side of the border while your enemy attacks/kills you from the other side of the border, but give up the main tool you have (drones) to go after the enemy in his safe haven in Pakistan. This is not a partisan issue, nor an issue of ideology, and the lack of information or understanding from those commenting on this topic – including the former president – is severe. For President Carter to state that Pakistan is “not in any war zone” illustrates the point, and it is something that the former president can’t really stick by if he thinks about it carefully.

Carole

June 26th, 2012
12:55 pm

gm

3 years ago Americans were scared to board planes, trains, boats, alert codes were every day, this great President reduce American fear by killing terrorist and taking care of business, there should not be no one in this country taking shots at the job this man has done on keeping America safe.
+++++++

I kind of agree with you. However, I understand that Carter usually falls on the side of humanitarian means and these attacks go against it.

People disagree. They are from the same party, no big deal. But I guess to the media it matters.

Peach Fuzz

June 26th, 2012
1:46 pm

I can’t believe this drivel emanates from the respectable, peanut farming President of my youth. Et tu, Jimmy? After your 11th-hour botched raid during the Iran hostage crisis, I would expect you to be more supportive of the Bush-Obama, Incorporated anti-terror war effort. I guess like the old adage says, misery loves company. Don’t be playa-hatin’ though…

John

June 26th, 2012
9:53 pm

td:

1) There are other sources of oil – including both within our own borders and within our own hemisphere. If we are supposedly at “war” with Islam, why do we continue to fund it????????

2) Just because our grandparents and great grandparents felt guilty about not stopping the Holocaust sooner does NOT mean that supporting Israel was EVER in the best interests of the US. And after 1967, when they single handedly destroyed virtually every military they could reach AND even attacked a vessel flying the US flag in international waters (which we ENTERED WWI OVER A SIMILAR OFFENSE), Israel proved it is MORE than capable of taking care of itself without US support. If Israel sees problems in the Middle East, Israelis can die to “solve” them. I’m tired of US boys and girls dying over a sibling rivalry millenia old that NONE of us have a part or a stake in.

One who served: See, I’m of the attitude that your ass would have been FAR safer had it stayed over here rather than going off to a God forsaken desert hell hole because you blindly followed idiots. And let’s face it, ALL politicians are idiots.

The DoD spent $6100 for every US household last year, and yet doesn’t have the capability to stop an invasion should any of our enemies with the capability decide to launch one – which is the ONLY valid task of the DoD. Personally, I would feel FAR safer had they simply gave every single US household $5k with the explicit instructions to buy the rifle, shotgun, and pistol of their choice along with 1k rounds of ammo each. China talks about having a million man strong Army? At that point we’d have had around *300* Million armed and ready to repel any invasion…

Mild Mannered Moderate

June 26th, 2012
10:42 pm

Wow. TD is kind of a jerk. This is an example of why both sides are bad. TD is rude, and that makes people be rude to TD. Being in the center is better.

Mild Mannered Moderate

June 27th, 2012
12:10 am

I am sad for me.

rb

June 27th, 2012
1:29 am

Boy, bob you are not very bright are you. Jimmy carter speaks of a conscience we as a nation ought to have. But with folks like you that is too deep for ya aint it?