Grover Norquist endorses Chip Rogers

Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, today posted a glowing endorsement of Senate Majority Leader Chip Rogers, reinforcing the role that the transportation sales tax will play in other races on July 31.

And complicating Georgia politics to no end. From the ATR website:

Rogers has defended against tax increases and worked to streamline state government, often in the face of intense pressure from appropriators and their special interest allies. Most recently, Senator Rogers has stood up against a multi-billion dollar tax increase for expanded public transportation, an unpopular but extremely principled position.

From Norquist himself:

“The so-called ‘transportation tax’ is a more than a 7 billion dollar tax hike. Senator Rogers knows that the problem isn’t that Georgia politicians are not raising enough in taxes. They have been spending on areas other than transportation for years. Punishing today’s taxpayers for the bad spending decisions of yesterday’s legislators has it backwards.”

Among those complicating factors:

– The sales tax vote was placed on the July 31 ballot with a great deal of help from the Senate majority leader. Rogers bases his opposition on the content of the project list subsequently drawn up by local leaders.

– Norquist has condemned Gov. Nathan Deal’s support for the sales tax as a betrayal of the ATR’s no-tax pledge once signed by Deal. Yet the governor, too, is backing Rogers in his race against Republican challenger Brandon Beach, who supports the sales tax for more roads and rail.

But if you wonder why you don’t see Georgia Republicans tearing each other up over this issue, remember that on Aug. 1, a campaign aimed at restoring the state’s power to create charter schools begins. And many of those on opposite sides of the sales tax votes will need to become quick friends again.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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n

June 12th, 2012
6:12 pm

T-Splost is a boondoggle. It is a welfare and full employment plan for road builders. Just a small fraction of the taxpayers’ billions will go toward anything productive.

Grover Norquist is a megelomaniac propounding a formula for disaster.
“A foolish Consistency is the hobgoblins of little minds, adored by little statesmen, philosophers, and divines.” Emerson

Chip Rogers is a self-promoting huckster, with national ambitions.

Why would any decent conservative want the STATE to have the power to create local charter schools?
I thought conservatives believed in LOCAL control of education.

Cognitive dissonance and/or total hypocrisy rules GA

sfb

June 12th, 2012
6:38 pm

Chip Rogers thinks that being endorsed by a pal of Abramoff and Reed is a good thing. Norquist is one of the most divisive public figures in history, and probably will end up in a prison cell (as will Rogers).

Kris

June 12th, 2012
6:41 pm

I predict that if the T-Splost passes a couple of things (and a lot more) will happen.
1.st A lot politicians’ Double dip deal and the rest of the GOP will be lighting their cigars with $10 Bills.
2nd . Immigration laws will be relaxed for immigrates to work in GA.

Cbrown

June 12th, 2012
7:11 pm

Grover Norquist, bellicose, authoritarian, dictatorial, and not a wise man, except among those who prefer to follow than lead.

The Art of the Shady Land Deal

June 12th, 2012
7:11 pm

“Most recently, Senator Rogers has stood up against a multi-billion dollar tax increase for expanded public transportation, an unpopular but extremely principled position.”

If you actually think that any of this tax increase will actually help to expand public transportation, then I’ve got some oceanfront property in the Everglades that I’d like to sell you…

Will the last Democrat in Georgia please turn off the lights?.....

June 12th, 2012
7:18 pm

“Why would any decent conservative want the STATE to have the power to create local charter schools?”

Three really good reasons:

1) Atlanta Public Schools (massive cheating scandal)

2) Clayton County Public Schools (loss of accreditation caused by a wildly incompetent board)

3) DeKalb County Public Schools ($70 million budget deficit and incompetent and corrupt leadership)

Martin Williams

June 12th, 2012
7:25 pm

The Roman Empire did go down big time according to history and people like Norquist think other wise. It will not happen to America, oh yes it is very possible. All these politicians that are signing the NO TAX pledge are the same people that quickly ask the federal government for big time help when they face a natural disaste. Ronald Reagan was big time spender and he compromised by raising taxes to get revenue. If you ask Mr. Norquist how many military installations does the United States have all over world, bet he will not know. It takes billions every single month to support and Tea Party idiots talk about spending.

Will the last Democrat in Georgia please turn off the lights?.....

June 12th, 2012
7:27 pm

By the way, one of the best most critically-acclaimed and nationally-recognized schools in the otherwise overall sinking abyss that is DeKalb County Public Schools is a charter school, Chamblee Charter High School in North DeKalb.

Will the last Democrat in Georgia please turn off the lights?.....

June 12th, 2012
7:31 pm

Didn’t Chip Rogers vote to place the T-SPLOST on the ballot, not once, but TWICE, before he was against it?

Centrist

June 12th, 2012
7:36 pm

So, is this the beginning of the reality that Chip Rogers is likely to be re-elected?

All those previous attacks by the AJC, and posters here who said they didn’t know of anyone who was voting for him and only a sea of Beach signs were seen in Cherokee County may abate. The motel investment gone bad, and his being a handi-capper after college doesn’t seem to have the impact his opponents thought, either.

CC District 21 Voter

June 12th, 2012
7:38 pm

The more he goes after endorsements from people like Grover Norquist the more desperate he appears. Does he actually believe that this will help him with the voters; if so he is even more out of touch than I thought.

Chip has ticked off more people in Cherokee than I ever thought possible. He is acting like a spoiled child with a huge sense of entitlement. I don’t believe there is anything he can do to recover from the overwhelming dislike people have of him and if people won’t vote for you – you can’t win the election. If Ronald Regan were alive today, I don’t believe that even his endorsement could save Chip Rogers.

bart

June 12th, 2012
7:48 pm

Another reason, and there are too many to count, NOT to vote for Rogers.

CC District 21 Voter

June 12th, 2012
8:05 pm

@Centrist if you really believe that Chip Rogers has any chance to be re-elected you should visit Cherokee County. Not only will you see Beach magnets on over 400 cars, at least that many people wearing Beach t-shirts and close to 1,000 signs on private property with the owners permission, but if you stop and ask people what they think about Chip Rogers you will be hard pressed to find more than a few hundred people that have anything positive to say about the senator. People who have never been involved with elections before are stepping forward to work for Beach. His suppliers can not keep up with the demand and we have many subdivisions that do not allow signs to be posted until 30 days before the election. On July 1st. there will be an explosion of Beach support in Cherokee County. Our new motto is “Ship Chip – We’ve gone to the Beach”

By the way the motel and gambling only serve as entertainment here – just icing on the cake – people here have had a deep dislike for Chip for a long time so all we needed was for him to have an opponent. Our ABC campaign – “Anybody but Chip” turned up a great opponent that we are all excited about and we are looking forward to having a state senator that actually listens to the people and one that does not lie to us. You might want to ask people here if they have ever been lied to by Chip Rogers, most of us have been more than once.

td

June 12th, 2012
8:06 pm

Centrist is correct. The AJC want Chip out at any cost and has taken its best shot but alas the people of Cherokee county so not either read or listen to this liberal outlet and will not put him out of office. It appears to me that the AJC has lost most of its political influence, except for ATL, DeKalb and Clayton county.

td

June 12th, 2012
8:11 pm

CC District 21 Voter

June 12th, 2012
8:05 pm

You must be on Beach’s campaign staff. I do not live in the district but do drive through it several times per week. I see just as many Chip signs as Beach signs.

Centrist

June 12th, 2012
8:18 pm

td posted “It appears to me that the AJC has lost most of its political influence, except for ATL, DeKalb and Clayton county.”

That type of comment is what got me “banned” from this blog, and my screen name was put on the list of words that got posts automatically rejected.

Michael #1

June 12th, 2012
8:20 pm

I’m betting on Chip! What is his 800 number again. Just shows how people like TD throw ethics aside when voting. Character in a person is hard to find these days.

Aaron Burr V Mexico

June 12th, 2012
8:21 pm

Amendment 28 – The 14th Amendment to the Constitution is repealed for Grover Norquist. Grover Norquist also allows for a bill of attainder. Grover Norquist, due to damage inflicted upon the nation, is hereby relegated to a treadmill to be administered by the DHS, to grind wheat into flour to make bread for the poor for the rest of his natural life.

Aaron Burr V Mexico

June 12th, 2012
8:23 pm

Gotta love “Will the Last Democrat” (whose name violates the rules on excessive names btw) who only highlights problems in democratic districts.

Republicans are just stupid.

td

June 12th, 2012
8:23 pm

Centrist

June 12th, 2012
8:18 pm

I can not re track it now. I was just speaking of my own personal observation. If I get banned for it then so be it.

td

June 12th, 2012
8:28 pm

Michael #1

June 12th, 2012
8:20 pm

Let us compare ethics. Chip V. Frank? Chip V. Barnes? Chip V Rob? Chip V Clinton, Bill? Chip V Kasim? Chip V Johnson? Chip V Scott?

Well pretty much unanimous, Chip is more ethical, smarter and better philosophy and I do not really even like him that much.

td

June 12th, 2012
8:33 pm

Aaron Burr V Mexico

June 12th, 2012
8:21 pm

What do you not understand about the phrase “No new taxes”? Yes, I know GHWB gave into the pledge because he thought he could trust the Dems on their pledge to cut actual spending. We have learned our lesson and refuse to raise taxes until after actual spending cuts have been passed and implemented.

Centrist

June 12th, 2012
8:37 pm

Unlike CC District 21 Voter who obviously is part of Beach’s campaign as his posts are littered with “our” and “we”, I have no candidate affiliation. I totally discount what his opponents post here. I merely observe, and have seen Chip Rogers to be very popular in his district. His more recent stances for charter schools, majority vote to change how Cherokee school BOD members are elected, and opposition to T-SPLOST along with his Senate record will sway his constituent voters much more than the personal attacks against him. Maybe the partisan posters here are right and he will be ousted. But I doubt it.

Aaron Burr V Mexico

June 12th, 2012
8:42 pm

TD,

What part of the phrase, “One man shouldn’t get to rule the country” do you not understand? We have learned our lesson (well I have) and will push to charge southerners an additional 7% tax, and Republicans an additional 7%, making white conservative southerners pay an additional 75% tax.

“We” the royal “We” aren’t doing anything, but fortunately Grover is losing his Super…

shady

June 12th, 2012
8:51 pm

So, now we find out that this dingbat Norquist is running the Georgia Repuker party. Watch them fall in line behind their Master Pimp! As far as Charter schools, they blood suck they brightest and best from good public schools, then turn around and blame public schools for serious problems. Yeah Right. Building two Georgia’s: The Have’s and the Have Nots. Then say the Have Nots are waging class warfare. Backward thinking if I ever heard of it.

td

June 12th, 2012
8:55 pm

Aaron Burr V Mexico

June 12th, 2012
8:42 pm

TD,

What part of the phrase, “One man shouldn’t get to rule the country”

What a joke. You libs think just because one man had the nerve to actually go out and represent the millions of conservatives and get the elected politicians to sign a pledge to do something they all campaigned to do then that is somehow unfair.

Small government and more personal responsibility is core principles of the conservative movement and Grover has just made it so that people conservatives vote for are held accountable to those principles and that the special interest can not get them to change their principles for money.

GaBlue

June 12th, 2012
8:56 pm

Oh? Interesting! I wasn’t aware that Mr. Norquist is now residing in Cherokee County. Did he buy a house in foreclosure, I wonder? Hmm… It’s just up the road; we should take a muffin basket over.

I keep explaining to my Congressman that him signing a pledge to Mr. Norquist is in clear violation of his duty (and the paycheck he cashes, & lifetime of cushy benefits he receives) to represent the actual people residing in his district, in particular, the ones who actually do the living, working, taxpaying, and dying in our community. Little weasel doesn’t seem to get it, though. He keeps going on TV trying to get a gig moonlighting as a pundit. Zero work ethic. Shame.

CC District 21 Voter

June 12th, 2012
9:08 pm

@TD If you truly are a resident of Cherokee you would take notice that about 90% of Rogers signs are on abandoned property, ROW for state & county property, in front of burned down homes, strapped to guard rails and placed in yards of bank owned properties. I have heard from a lot of people that have witnessed people pulling up Rogers signs that were placed in their yards and even strapped to a fence. Doubt he asked or they wouldn’t be removing them. I am a resident that is sick of being represented by someone that is so arrogant that he told a room of over 200 teacher that they don’t vote, so I guess he thinks he can do whatever he wants and he will get away with it. I guess we will see how the people here really feel on July 31st. I betting on a trip to the Beach!

td

June 12th, 2012
9:15 pm

CC District 21 Voter

June 12th, 2012
9:08 pm

So you are a teacher. This explains a great deal about your feelings. We shall see what happens on the 31st. Like I said I really do not care about Chip but I do not see him losing in the primary.

Ol' Timer

June 12th, 2012
9:30 pm

Will Rogers had never met Grover Norquist, the “bloviating ignoramous” to use George Will’s words when referring to Donald Trump.

Norquist positions himself as some grand patriot and unholder of truth, justice,righteousness and the American Way, but I’m reminded of Dr. Johnson who said, “Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.”

zeke

June 12th, 2012
9:56 pm

jeb bush has more sense in his little finger than td and his lot

Centrist

June 12th, 2012
10:07 pm

So it comes out that CC District 21 Voter is a Democrat/ teacher who bases his prediction on his dislike of Rogers, and anecdotal teacher lounge talk. I doubt we will be hearing from him here in August.

Reality Check

June 12th, 2012
10:07 pm

CC District 21 Voter – You are either a delusional establishment teacher (notice I said establishment because there are some great, rational teachers out there) or a Beach supporter. Chip will win big and charter schools will win big with republicans. If you don’t believe either of those you are delusional. I have seen you post many times on here and it’s always knocking Chip, Charters and you make uneducated, irrational comments about school funding. You have been brainwashed by the educrats and it might do you some good to get out of that world for a little bit.

GaBlue

June 12th, 2012
10:15 pm

Wow, I’m impressed!

The TEACHER BASHERS are out in full force tonight! It’s good to see so many folks who clearly TAUGHT THEMSELVES geometry, algebra, calculus, and chemistry. Y’all needed no help from those losers who chose teaching as a career, right? Buncha union thugs, tanking the economy, starting wars, jacking up the price of gas, and making the planet all hot and melty.

Bravo to those of you who were singing “We don’t need no edjuucayyyyshuuuun!” before Pink Floyd made it cool. Self-made men, you are. Please keep posting so everyone can finally comprehend the depth and breadth of your brilliance. If only there were more teacher-hating Americans like you, and not so many elitists who want to send their kids to school, the Chinese could own us completely, once and for all.

mark

June 12th, 2012
10:20 pm

I have to get out of this state.

gw

June 12th, 2012
10:20 pm

freedom ain’t free

Will the last Democrat in Georgia please turn off the lights?.....

June 12th, 2012
10:23 pm

Aaron Burr V Mexico

June 12th, 2012
8:23 pm

“Gotta love “Will the Last Democrat” (whose name violates the rules on excessive names btw) who only highlights problems in democratic districts……Republicans are just stupid.”

Well, you are more than welcome to highlight problems in Republican-dominated and controlled areas, the three school districts that I named just happened to be in areas that are dominated by left-leaning Democrat politics, but by no means were they only school districts with problems, just the three absolute worst most recent local examples….Examples (infamous cheating scandal, loss of accreditation and a $70 million budget deficit) that are pretty darn bad and pretty hard to ignore.

In fact, this ENTIRE BLOG POST is about a really huge problem in the Republican-dominated area of Cherokee County, a really huge problem whose name just happens to be Chip Rogers.

Reality Check

June 12th, 2012
10:28 pm

No one is bashing teachers – they are bashing a philosophy by certain teachers who hate anything new except for giving them a raise and more money. How dare people try something new in a state where we rank 48th in education. Thank God for Mississippi and Arkansas!

Old Physics Teacher (and Nixon Voter)

June 12th, 2012
10:41 pm

gw,

and ignorance is expensive…and there’s a LOT of it on this blog :)

lights out

June 12th, 2012
10:42 pm

In an interview with Fox News on Tuesday at a campaign rally in Iowa on Friday in which he appeared to suggest the country could do without more public sector jobs.”
“Mitt Romney wants to cut back on the number of teachers, firefighters and police officers around the country.
Just thought I would throw this out there. As I turn off the light

td

June 12th, 2012
10:43 pm

GaBlue

June 12th, 2012
10:15 pm

Wow, I’m impressed!

“The TEACHER BASHERS”

Not all teachers just the liberal ones that think government is the answer and teaches it in the classroom. Georgia is pretty good because there is no teacher unions and for the most part the teachers still are conservatives.

td

June 12th, 2012
10:46 pm

mark

June 12th, 2012
10:20 pm

I have to get out of this state.

Please leave soon. CA seems like it is exactly a place you would like.

Centrist

June 12th, 2012
10:46 pm

I have the greatest respect for the teaching profession. I understand most teachers are Democrats – it is part of the idealism that turned many of them to the profession (like the arts and journalism). We need idealists in society – but probably not running all three branches of our government.

Old Physics Teacher

June 12th, 2012
11:01 pm

Reality Check,

Really?! not teacher bashing?? I’ve heard a lot of really way out-there comments but that statement is so untrue it goes so far past truth that it can’t even see truth For those that do not understand writing past the 6th grade level: “delusional establishment teacher” and “some rational teachers” as if “rational” was the exception rather than the norm -”delusional” AND “anecdotal teacher lounge” as if the author knows what goes on in “teacher lounges” btw, I’ve been teaching your children for over 20 years, and I’ve never seen a teacher’s “lounge.” .

And for you guys parsing words trying to justify your “beliefs,” we’re not 48th. We’re not even close to 48th UNLESS you want to compare SAT scores when the rest of the nation uses ACT. Using your definition even Mississippi is better than us. YES, dude. Mississippi’s SAT scores are higher simply because the only students who take the SAT are applying to the Ivy League (for those of you who understand the term – the Valedictorians are the ones who are taking the SAT in Mississippi). Sheesh, you guys have been bashing teachers from day one. There’s no problem with that. I’ve had ideologues hate me before, and I’m sure you guys will continue to do so. At least use some FACTS to bitch about us – not some made up trash simply because you’re not smart enough to find them.

Centrist

June 12th, 2012
11:09 pm

My children know to ignore teacher pronouncements concerning politics (or “intelligent design” from religious fanatics). For the most part, teachers are better at separating their bias from teaching much better than journalists from reporting.

@ lights out – Romney did not say “cut back on the number of teachers, firefighters and police officers around the country”. That is the biased liberal media’s purposeful inference from his remark that he wants to reduce the number of people working in the public sector which includes many other type workers. Romney has since cleared that up, but the media (and partisans) want to make it look like a gaffe compared to Obama’s saying the private sector is “doing just fine”. Obama did not take it back – he doubled down, and will correctly pay for that remark through November.

lights out

June 12th, 2012
11:32 pm

@ Centrist

Paddle faster the banjo music is getting louder….

To Romney and his GOP clown circus
I will work to ensure you and your fellow Republicans reap unprecedented losses in November
Reelect President OBAMA 2012

Buckhead

June 13th, 2012
12:10 am

Grover has it wrong: Chip is the only person in this race who authorized the so called 7 billion dollar tax increase by whipping votes for it in the State Senate and then voting for it himself twice.

Chip also voted for the hospital bed tax increase before House Republicans would not budge unless tax credits were put in place to negate the tax increase.

Chip also has said many times he favors putting the sales tax back on drugs and groceries.

So it looks like Chip is for a lot of tax increases before he is opposed to them.

Reality Check

June 13th, 2012
12:58 am

Here goes Buckhead again.

I believe Chip said he is for a flat tax and lowering the state income tax. The net tax effect would be a tax decrease but don’t let facts get in the way.

The Hospital bed tax turned out to be a net tax decrease of over $500m. So yes, you are correct, Chip and the legislature voted for a $500m tax decrease. Again, don’t let the facts get in the way.

DeborahinAthens

June 13th, 2012
6:39 am

Chip will be re-elected because the people in his district think like him and are, by and large, easily manipulated. It is appalling that unelected buffoons like Norquist can have such power in our deeply flawed political system. The Christian Coalition which is run by crooks and liars that should, and eventually WILL be in jail, is another entity that should have no say in our system, yet the continue to manipulate the right wing voters. When anyone questions these bozos, they start screeching about the “liberal media” and socialists. You are so stupid. You deserve them.

[...] Grover Norquist has endorsed Senator Chip Rogers in his reelection campaign. Rogers has defended against tax increases and worked to streamline state government, often in the face of intense pressure from appropriators and their special interest allies. Most recently, Senator Rogers has stood up against a multi-billion dollar tax increase for expanded public transportation, an unpopular but extremely principled position. [...]