Of gays, lesbians and an electric fence in North Carolina
Below is a clip of the anti-gay sermon by the Rev. Charles Worley of Providence Road Baptist Church in Maiden, N.C., that’s whipping around the Internet via YouTube:
Look, it doesn’t matter what you think of gay marriage or Barack Obama. Should it ever come to pass, the inside of the Reverend Worley’s electric fence will be the only side to be on. And it’s a sin that anyone should have to say so.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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melshop
May 23rd, 2012
7:38 pm
honested, are you saying that we, as Christians, do not have the same right as all Americans to express and act on our viewpoints? If so, you have absolutely no idea about the ideals this country was founded upon. And, did you know, it was BAPTISTS that first developed the idea of “separation of church and state?” And that is what Thomas Jefferson was referring to in his letter to Baptists, which was to comfort them amid rumors of the results of a federalist government. It was never intended to silence us as citizens. And to the church haters, are you aware that the Civil Rights movement was born out of a church – Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta? And, are you aware that it was churches all over the South (not all Black either) that sponsored voter registration drives in that ugly part of our history? And, are any of you aware that it was a Christian (William Wilberforce) who started the abolition movement in England? And that it was largely Christians who hid Jews in Nazi Germany? And that it is evangelical Christians who are Israel’s strongest supporters today?
DannyX – I am well aware of what this blog is about. However, what I find the most disdain for is how those opposing the Christian view preach tolerance and love for all when – out of their same mouths – say that Christians are ignorant, should not be allowed to worship, shouldn’t be allowed to live, reproduce etc. I’ve seen it way too many times on similar postings. The most hateful speech comes from either those actively seeking acceptance for a homosexual lifestyle or from atheists. The same would never be allowed regarding other faiths, homosexuals or anyone else.
A couple of other points I haven’t address. Yes, there is a genetic propensity for homosexuality. But there is also a genetic propensity for alcoholism, drug addition, obesity and a number of other things. We, as a society, have no problem finding fault with those things (even though they may only affect the person involved at the time) and we, as a society, have no problem discouraging those behaviors stemming from that genetic propensity. We, as a society, seem to think that people can overcome those problems although it may be difficult. Sexual issues like homosexuality is no different.
The question is whether we, as a society, have determined whether putting a government stamp of approval on homosexuality will have any adverse effect on us as a society. Like it or not, we are created with an inescapable dependence on each other and the actions of one do affect the whole of society so this question becomes very important.
Christians, and I suspect others who aren’t of a particular faith, seem to think according to the voting records that allowing gays to marry would hurt society as a whole. Their reasoning may be based on a religious belief or a political one. It really doesn’t matter which for personal beliefs are an American right and every American have the right to express those beliefs in the voting booth.
melshop
May 23rd, 2012
9:03 pm
@look…5 states didn’t pass legislation out of VOTER approval. It was legislative approval and signed by the governor. In D.C. it was the city council that approved it. In Iowa, it was a court decision that got it. This issue has been defeated in every state where it was put on the ballot..and many of those were in the past two to three years…not way back in 2005 or 2006, although there was frenzy to get a law on the books in several states then. N.C. was last month (61% to 39%). Maine voters repealed the 2009 law legalizing gay marriage in March (53% to 47%). California prop 8 (52% to 48%) was 2008. Florida passed a measure banning it in 2008 (62% to 38%). Arizona was in 2008 with a ban passing (56% to 44%) Here are some articles suggesting that you are wrong about what the public wants.
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/05/florida-poll-quarter-of-voters-less-inclined-to-back-124311.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/03/maine-gay-marriage-vote-e_n_344688.html
Mike
May 23rd, 2012
10:00 pm
Well said, well said.
Kenneth Koehn
May 23rd, 2012
11:33 pm
Same old hate and bigotry from the devil.
Kenneth Koehn
May 23rd, 2012
11:34 pm
Same old hate and bigotry from preachers of hate
zeke
May 24th, 2012
7:22 am
melshop, you would not know genetic propensity if it bit you in the ….
Carole
May 24th, 2012
1:05 pm
PB
Why would we not take what this preacher said at “face value”? He said what he said. No sense trying to justify stupid comments by him. If he was tryring to make a point by going “over the top”, his point is lost in his ignorance and mean-ness. Wow, I am amazed that people would defend this guy…
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I am by no means defending this guy. But having grown up in a Pentecostal church (we considered Baptists heathens) I have some experience with methodology. This was not intended for Youtube. It was intended for those whom he knew would give a rousing amen. Who would walk out of there proudly and tell others how their Pastor stands on the Word of God even when it’s not popular…