Of gays, lesbians and an electric fence in North Carolina
Below is a clip of the anti-gay sermon by the Rev. Charles Worley of Providence Road Baptist Church in Maiden, N.C., that’s whipping around the Internet via YouTube:
Look, it doesn’t matter what you think of gay marriage or Barack Obama. Should it ever come to pass, the inside of the Reverend Worley’s electric fence will be the only side to be on. And it’s a sin that anyone should have to say so.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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DannyX
May 23rd, 2012
12:58 pm
“I am sure they many and they are welcome as long as they do not try to change the platform to allow gay marriage or to accept abortion.”
You mean like most churches changed the platform on divorce???
Divorce is a CHOICE!
td
May 23rd, 2012
12:59 pm
DannyX
May 23rd, 2012
12:54 pm
“Yes, because everyone knows Jesus loved the rich and hated the poor, just like Republicans.”
Total BS and you know it. There are just as many rich Dems as there are Rich Republicans.
Yes I am sure Jesus would support a party that believes it is the governments role to take care of the poor and to enable the poor to not take any responsibility for their own actions. WRONG.
DebbieDoRight
May 23rd, 2012
12:59 pm
Now that’s funny! This guy was a hoot!! If the Baptist church or any church for that matter, (Catholic, Methodist, etc.); are so worried about homosexuals why don’t they get those in-the-closet-preachers and/or priests out of their churches?!!
This whole thing is just one big crazy lie! They’ll follow someone who’s a child abuser/pedophile/pederast, allow them to stand in their pulpit and “preach/teach the word of Christ”, and afterwards molest their children!
Just one big crazy lie!!
NetBanker
May 23rd, 2012
1:00 pm
Let’s all hope the media continues to focus on this church because the sheeple just love to hate gays and it distracts them from the real problems like our economy is horrible, we’re spending at a rate far higher than they did/do in Greece and that country is financially circling the drain, unemployment rates are falling even though there is little hiring because the labor participation rate is also dropping (i.e. more people are just giving up), and we’re still shoveling money to OPEC as fast as we can. Do you think we can have him preach against abortion once this media storm dies down to continue distracting voters from real issues?
td
May 23rd, 2012
1:01 pm
DannyX
May 23rd, 2012
12:58 pm
What did the churches change on the issue of divorce?
DannyX
May 23rd, 2012
1:01 pm
“Yes I am sure Jesus would support a party that believes it is the governments role to take care of the poor and to enable the poor to not take any responsibility for their own actions. WRONG”
You need to read your Bible td!!!
The Truth
May 23rd, 2012
1:01 pm
td
I know I am not to question anyones faith but it is hard for me to fathom how anyone can call themself a Christian and a democrat. The two views about the world do not mix.
Well we know that you’re a hypocrite and a false Christian because you’re a Republican. You know the type… the ones that accuse others of sinning, but are caught trying to have homosexual sex in airport mensrooms, the ones that are against adultery, but are caught with prostitutes like David Vitter. You know the type, the ones that call women sluts, but are so addicted to OxyContin that they become borderline deaf because of their drug addiction. You know the type… the ones that start wars that kill innocent women and children because of phony ‘weapons of mass destruction’. How anyone can call themself a Christian and a Republican is beyond comprehension. Either that, or they’re a liar and a hypocrite. You decide…
Look before I leap...
May 23rd, 2012
1:01 pm
@td
“Where is the politics?”
The entire statement is rife with politics. That you choose not to see it, does not make it any less so.
DannyX
May 23rd, 2012
1:02 pm
“What did the churches change on the issue of divorce?”
Plenty. You need to read your Bible td!
td
May 23rd, 2012
1:03 pm
DebbieDoRight
May 23rd, 2012
12:59 pm
BS. Name a church that practices what you are saying?
LawDawg
May 23rd, 2012
1:03 pm
As we all know, Jesus Christ, like conservative Christians was in favor of making sure the rich paid a lower marginal tax rate than under Clinton and just constantly talked about how much he hated gay people and people who disagreed with him.
Why? What version of the Bible have you been reading? King James was a pro-sodomite socialist, as we all know.
Mark
May 23rd, 2012
1:03 pm
@ The Truth
May 23rd, 2012
1:01 pm
Very well said!
td
May 23rd, 2012
1:05 pm
Look before I leap…
May 23rd, 2012
1:01 pm
So preaching about morals and values should not be done from the pulpit? Talking about how our leaders feel about morals and values should not be talked about from the pulpit? If you think this then what is allowed to be talked about from the pulpit?
Look before I leap...
May 23rd, 2012
1:05 pm
td-is a mormon a christian?
Do not know and really do not care
So you are going to vote for someone who may or may not be a Christian?
LawDawg
May 23rd, 2012
1:06 pm
The funny thing is, when was the last time you heard someone like James Dobson or Ted Haggard speak on FoxNews about how important helping the poor is. I am pretty sure Jesus talked a lot more about that than abortion and gay sex. Then again, Jesus Christ has very, very little to do with contemporary Christianity.
Darwin
May 23rd, 2012
1:07 pm
I remember back in the early 60s with the Johnson and Goldwater election. I was very young then and my parents were Goldwater supporters. A young woman told me that Goldwater wanted to put a fence around the US to protect is from outsiders. It sounded so outlandish. Funny how things turned out.
LawDawg
May 23rd, 2012
1:07 pm
Mormons are Christians in the exact same way Muslims are Christians. They believe in Jesus Christ, but in a modified version.
DannyX
May 23rd, 2012
1:07 pm
Luke 6:20-21 ‘Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God.’
Has been revised, the New Republican Bible says…”Blessed are you who are rich, for yours is the kingdom of God.”
Look before I leap...
May 23rd, 2012
1:10 pm
@td
I did not say anything about what should or should not be preached from a pulpit.
I simply pointed out the fallacy that you consistently maintain as fact, that churches and preachers do not engage in politics.
Your comment about Christians and democrats highlights that most effectively.
zeke
May 23rd, 2012
1:10 pm
as someone said before, how many people choose to be gay? they choose to come out of closet, but the ones i have known well enough did not choose to be gay. i think it is genetics, but maybe nurture has something to do with it too. but if we take them at their word and agree they did not choose to be gay, then what? again, as some said previously, who in their right mind would choose to be in a group villified and ridiculed? and all this trouble and travail in the world because someone ate an apple?i believe there is our creator and i try to follow the golden rule, but i am amazed at many of our fellow human beings…of course they are probably amazed at me too.
Jack
May 23rd, 2012
1:14 pm
I suppose Rev Worley and Rev Wright are good buddies. However…
td
May 23rd, 2012
1:15 pm
The Truth
May 23rd, 2012
1:01 pm
I sin daily and fall short of the glory of God. Anyone that tells you otherwise is just a big liar.
The difference is that I know this and try as hard as I can to not sin and then when I do I ask for forgiveness. I know that one day I will have to answer for everyone of my sins and want to minimize the disappointment God will have in my actions.
The real question is will you try to minimize the disappointment or will you stand before God one day and be proud of your behavior?
DannyX
May 23rd, 2012
1:15 pm
Mark 10:21-22 Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said, “You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.” When he heard this, he was shocked and went away grieving, for he had many possessions.
Has been revised, the New Republican Bible says…”"You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to a job creator, and you will have oatmeal in heaven; then stay away from our glorious churches. For our rich need gold, and diamonds, Tiffany’s credit cards, and car elevators.”
GiGi6
May 23rd, 2012
1:17 pm
@Look before…..
As of matter of fact no I haven’t contacted SBC but that is a wonderful idea! I think I will do just that! However, to say that because I haven’t already then I am part of the problem is stretching it a bit. I haven’t done it because I have been so angry with what he said that I didn’t think about contacting anyone like that. However, I did share it with my Pastor and told him how sick I am over this mans words and how my heart breaks for those that believe that ALL Christians are like that because then they miss the REAL story of my Jesus! I’m not one that makes those kinds of calls to the SBC, but Thank You for making the suggestion! Really!! See, we CAN learn from each other. Christians are still people, they make mistakes and they say some really STUPID things, and many are misguided. Trust me, they WILL stand before God one day and I would hate to be them when God asks them why they are using HIS name in relation to such hatred! (it WON’T be pretty!)
slk
May 23rd, 2012
1:20 pm
The Creator, God…………………is the ONLY JUDGE.
not a human.
What a relief.
Worley…..as anyone else will have to answer to God alone.
td
May 23rd, 2012
1:21 pm
Look before I leap…
May 23rd, 2012
1:05 pm
I vote for someone that may or may not be a question every time I vote.
massachusetts thug
May 23rd, 2012
1:25 pm
look before i leap: So you are going to vote for someone who may or may not be a Christian?
yes. That’s why I’m voting for President Obama.
NetBanker
May 23rd, 2012
1:26 pm
“You can not hold up being Christian at the same time you support the legalization of sin” Interesting perspective and how does that reconcile with the Jesus admonishion to “render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar’s” given that The Consitution with it’s guarantees of freedom and equality are in the civil sphere (i.e. Ceasar’s realm) rather than the church (”render unto God that which is God’s”)? Gay marriage isn’t about forcing religious institutions to marry gay couples, but about legal equality since gays can already have religious ceremonies. I also don’t fully understand Republican objections to marriage equality since the route taken has been laws and consitutional amendments regulating personal, private behaviors which is in direct opposition of their belief in less government and sets precedents for targeting specific minority groups with legal restrictions…watch out fringe Christians…the majority could be gunning for you NEXT.
Look before I leap...
May 23rd, 2012
1:26 pm
The call for the isolation and extinction of a segment of society that does not share one’s view of how the world should be has a name in modern history, Naziism. In more recent times it is known as the Islamic state.
Jerome Horwitz
May 23rd, 2012
1:26 pm
Maybe the electric fence should go around Worley’s parsonage and we could helicopter food into him.
DannyX
May 23rd, 2012
1:27 pm
Luke 14:12-14 He said also to the one who had invited him, “When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, in case they may invite you in return, and you would be repaid. But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, and the blind. And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you, for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.”
Has been revised, theNew Republican version… He said also to the one who had invited him, “When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite the evil poor who seek government handouts, you will never get repaid. But when you give a banquet, invite the rich, the privileged, and the white. And you will be blessed, because they can repay you, for you will be repaid by a private equity firm. Do not dine with the stinking poor.”
Anon
May 23rd, 2012
1:29 pm
@melshop… your quote “His real point is that, if you separate them, they can’t exist beyond a generation because they can’t naturally reproduce. “…. so you are saying that Homosexuals can naturally reproduce outside of the concentration camps your reverand is proposing ? Did it ever occur to you that you are heaping ignorance on top of ignorance and hate?
zeke
May 23rd, 2012
1:31 pm
if charlie sheen can come back many times, wouldn’t it be nice to have Jesus come back just for points of clarification?
Look before I leap...
May 23rd, 2012
1:38 pm
“wouldn’t it be nice to have Jesus come back just for points of clarification?”
A talking, burning bush on CNN would do far more to convert the wicked than the good Rev Worley.
Instead we get tomatoes with rosaries and potato chips that look like Jesus.
Look before I leap...
May 23rd, 2012
1:42 pm
I am thinking that God is looking down and saying:
“I gave these guys free will and what did they do? Went right our and invented religion!
D’oh!”
GiGi6
May 23rd, 2012
1:46 pm
@thebob.bob
Julia
May 23rd, 2012
1:49 pm
Wasn’t it Gandhi who said something to the effect ‘I like your Christ just fine, it is your Christians i have the problem with”
What a compassionate person you are, Get Real. *snark*
NetBanker
May 23rd, 2012
1:51 pm
Why is there still discussion as to whether homosexuality is a choice or genetic? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation
While we can’t point to a sexual orientation gene there are enough studies and evidence (see the link above which mentions numerous ones) to provide that the genetics and physical brain structures of homosexuals are different than heterosexuals. While God and The Bible don’t cover genetics is it fair to declar homosexuality a sin if one is born that way? If yes, how do you reconcile that with God being infallible and all humans are his reflection? Either God intended people to be gay or He isn’t perfect.
Personally I think God intended people to be gay and the real test is how the heterosexuals treat them by living up to the directs of the golden rule and to love others as you love yourself.
sweet
May 23rd, 2012
1:53 pm
My take: Jesus is awesome, christianity is vile.
von
May 23rd, 2012
1:56 pm
Oh look, Jim’s at his “Let’s make everyone hate religions and by religion I mean Christians” antics again! Seriously, with everything going on and THIS is what you chose to roll with? You yourself made it known it’s going viral, the amount of writing you’ve done yourself here is minimal compared to your usual drivel, and most people don’t take this seriously so rabble-rousing can be your only possible motivation here. I am a Christian, I am a republican, and I have ZERO problem with gays, or gays getting married. There are many more out there like me. How about putting some effort into your next one Jimbo? At least your other idiotic editorials had more than a paragraph or two. You should be ashamed to have even put this out there and the AJC should as well.
CBGB
May 23rd, 2012
1:56 pm
I am gay and I know that there are PLENTY of awesome churches that do not judge, do not hate, do not discriminate against and abuse gay people. This “preacher” is not one of those Christians. He represents a teeny tiny minority of so-called Christians who use religion to bash others and distort the Bible to fit their narrow agenda of hatred.. When this man stands before God at the end of his days, I hope he is prepared for the outcome. And if you support this man and his agenda of violence, then you are not a true Christian. And to those churches who work hard to lift people up and respect people no matter who they love, I thank you.
The Truth
May 23rd, 2012
1:56 pm
td
May 23rd, 2012
1:15 pm
The real question is will you try to minimize the disappointment or will you stand before God one day and be proud of your behavior?
I will be proud of my behavior because I don’t have the same ill-conceived concepts that you have of God’s judgement.
The real question is will you try to minimize your hypocricy or will you stand before God one day and be proud to call yourself a Republican OR a Christian. You can’t be both.
GiGi6
May 23rd, 2012
1:58 pm
oops….computer stuck! ANYWAY…..Why is it that you have to believe someone like that and I have to defend my beliefs? MANY preachers and teachers have stepped forward and said good things remaining respectful and I bet you laughed at them. You CHOOSE who you believe and it is, I suppose, more fun to believe the extremist than the TRUTH of any religion. Surely you are more intelligent than that! I don’t believe every single thing even my Pastor tells me. Not because I think he is wrong but because I have a personal relationship with God. I just ask God to lead me in the way HE wants me to go…..not Worley or Wright or any man. I beg of you to not believe that all SBC are extremist…..I for one am NOT! I just love my Lord…..I hate no one…..not even that idiot! I don’t care for him, but I don’t hate him!! (whoever suggested he (worley) be put in the fence with food dropped to him…..good idea!)
zeke
May 23rd, 2012
2:01 pm
von, then why do republicans use it as wedge issue? in fairness, don’t think romney is using it directly, but he probably does not mind it.
sid
May 23rd, 2012
2:01 pm
jesus was gay. he had 12 boyfriend’s.
clyde
May 23rd, 2012
2:12 pm
Someone needs to get a net and harvest the Rev Charlie.
Bobby
May 23rd, 2012
2:22 pm
@TD: I’m a Christian, socialist and homosexual, who served voluntarily in the U.S. Marine Corps during the Vietnam Era. If anyone is leaving the country, pack your bags. Thank you.
the cat
May 23rd, 2012
2:24 pm
Bobby-thank you for your service to our country. And thank you for speaking up to a narrow minded a$$
the cat
May 23rd, 2012
2:28 pm
von-I will ask the same question of you asked of someone else. Have you called or emailed the SBC to express your indignation of this?
Independent voter
May 23rd, 2012
2:35 pm
This pastor need to be charge with Hate Crime…He think just like the republican.