Of gays, lesbians and an electric fence in North Carolina
Below is a clip of the anti-gay sermon by the Rev. Charles Worley of Providence Road Baptist Church in Maiden, N.C., that’s whipping around the Internet via YouTube:
Look, it doesn’t matter what you think of gay marriage or Barack Obama. Should it ever come to pass, the inside of the Reverend Worley’s electric fence will be the only side to be on. And it’s a sin that anyone should have to say so.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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Look before I leap...
May 23rd, 2012
11:37 am
And for all those who decry being painted with the same brush as the lunatic preacher, your protestations would carry much more weight if you DEMANDED that the SBC leadership issue a clear and loud denouncement of the buffoon in NC.
bubba bob
May 23rd, 2012
11:37 am
Why is this article listed in the Politics section and not under Entertainment?
the cat
May 23rd, 2012
11:38 am
Look before I leap-excellent point!
Bobby
May 23rd, 2012
11:39 am
I love his supposition that if all gay men and lesbians could be rounded up and put into a fence that they would die off because they can’t reproduce. He apparently is not aware that gays come from heterosexual parents and would simply replenish themselves in due time.
Bobby
May 23rd, 2012
11:40 am
Where is our good friend TD who insists that churches don’t preach politics from their pulpit. He seems amazingly absent.
massachusetts thug
May 23rd, 2012
11:40 am
why is this posting here at all? oh wait, no one would read galloway otherwise…
Twinkletoes
May 23rd, 2012
11:40 am
I don’t consider his words as just sad. I consider them horrifying as well as untruthful. His variety of preaching is the BIG reason I have nothing to do w/religion! I treat others as I want to be treated and that is with respect and courtesy!
Don Abernethy
May 23rd, 2012
11:44 am
This church does not represent Baptist churches. The media continues to try to keep the gay subject in the lime light in hopes of switching Christians to their pro gay side. The Bible is VERY clear on this subject. Homosexuality is a sin because GOD says it is a sin. We will love the gays but hate their sin just as God hates their sin. We will NEVER compromise God’s Word no matter what the cost..
the cat
May 23rd, 2012
11:47 am
Don Abernethy-picking and choosing which parts of the bible to take liberally is deceitful. shall we go ahead and stone you now or after lunch?
the cat
May 23rd, 2012
11:48 am
take literally of course
Look before I leap...
May 23rd, 2012
11:50 am
“The Bible is VERY clear on this subject.”
And 65% of the world’s population think the bible is a mixture of fairy tale, revisionist history and general hogwash.
It’s nice to be in the majority once in a while.
Patrick
May 23rd, 2012
11:53 am
Don A.–Would “loving the gays” include allowing marriage equality when it comes to things like income tax, Social Security, hospital visitation, etc.?
You could still hate the sin if you want, just don’t punish the sinner. You can just let god make that call.
DannyX
May 23rd, 2012
11:55 am
It appears that Rev Worley has had some spiritual growth!
He said this in 1978…”"Forty years ago [gay people] would’ve hung, bless God, from a white oak tree!”
Now he just wants to round up the “queers” and put them in concentration camps.
PMC
May 23rd, 2012
11:56 am
I guess I missed the part of the New Testament where Jesus demonizes groups of people.
Patrick
May 23rd, 2012
11:57 am
DannyX–I good point. Baby steps, right?
GiGi6
May 23rd, 2012
11:57 am
For those of you that are saying that all Christians believe like Worley, it is fairly obvious that you have not visited any church at all or you would know that this man is in the minority! I think it is pretty narrow minded to believe all Christians agree with him as much as all white males are like Timothy McVeigh. Funny how many of you seem to know so much about what “we” believe yet when someone tries to tell you they are a Christian and do not agree with that man, you say something rude and basically call them liars. You want people to open their minds about you……maybe you could start at home. I love people….period……I am not judging them or their decisions!! I have sins in my own life, who am I to judge another? I may or may not agree with homosexuality but that doesn’t matter……I love everyone for WHO they are not WHAT they are!!
Lynn
May 23rd, 2012
12:02 pm
It’s way past time for Christians to stand up and voice their opposition to hate, persecution, and general ugliness…such as the filth this so-called reverend preaches. I don’t believe that most Christians believe what this joker believes. However, if Christians want to be thought of as something other than hate-mongers, they really need to denounce this sort of thing loudly and frequently.
Look before I leap...
May 23rd, 2012
12:04 pm
@GiGi
I will ask you a question, did you reach out to the SBC by email or phone and demand that they publicly denounce Worley’s sermon?
If not, then you are part of the problem.
DannyX
May 23rd, 2012
12:06 pm
“The Bible is VERY clear on this subject.”
Don, Jesus was even clearer about divorce. How about this Don,
The Bible is VERY clear on this subject. Divorce is a sin because GOD says it is a sin. We will love the divorced but hate their sin just as God hates their sin. We will NEVER compromise God’s Word no matter what the cost..
Divorce is a CHOICE! Jesus said divorce is only allowed in the case of infidelity. Over 50% of all Christian marriages end in divorce. That means there is an awful lot of adultery going on in Christian marriages. Those that divorce without adultery are equally defying the Bible. There are also rules for remarriage that are now completely ignored by the church.
Has anyone ever used the “love the sinner, hate the sin” line on a divorced family member or friend? A lot of married couples say their vows in a church which includes “until death do us part.”
Gays should fear the Bible when Christians start to fear it.
Sluggo
May 23rd, 2012
12:15 pm
No need to travel to N.C., we have the same hate fueled rhetoric here in our own state.
Shorter University needs to recruit Rev. Worley pronto. Sadly, he fits their new agenda.
the cat
May 23rd, 2012
12:16 pm
sluggo-you are right! I had forgotten about the shameful debacle at Shorter. It used to be a good school now just a distant memory.
MyPatootie
May 23rd, 2012
12:16 pm
This is somewhat similar to what I have been saying, just lots more cruel. I was thinking since maybe all the Northeastern states(plus CA and Iowa) have gone for gays marrying, they could all be cordoned off in that area by a fence separating them from the rest of the country. Somewhat like what was done in the leprosy colonies years ago. CA doesn’t matter as they will soon fall into the Pacific when the next earthquake comes along, and Iowa will repeal it next election. They have already kicked the 3 judges off the bench who rammed it down their throats. Maybe all gays and lesbians, etc. could move to the Northeast, and we will all be happy. I know one thing, it will NEVER EVER happen in the South! That’s a guarantee!
GodHatesTrash, Superstar
May 23rd, 2012
12:17 pm
These christianists think if they put a cross on their hatred, thuggishness, and ignorance they can promulgate any filth and stupidity they want. They don’t even get taxed for it.
And, let’s face it – virtually all evangelicals are guilty of versions of this “reverend”s” “thinking” – evangelical Protestants and Catholics think they are superior to the rest of us because they can (mis)quote the supposed divine revelations in the 4000-year-old ramblings of desert goat-herders to justify their primitive, willful stupidity and self-loathing.
Tommy
May 23rd, 2012
12:20 pm
Putting aside the narrow-minded hate this man spews for a moment, I do hope everyone sees the ignorant fallacy in his “strategy”. If you put all the lesbians in one pen, and all the gay men in another, they’ll die off and the world will be rid of ‘them’ because…why exactly? Does he think gay people come from gay people? Most of the gay people I know are the children of straight parents. That’s how that biology works, Preacher Man.
But of course, you’re a little behind, after all your planet is only 6000 years old, rather than millions like the one the rest of us live on.
Jerome Horwitz
May 23rd, 2012
12:21 pm
Let’s revisit something posted earlier on another blog.
Don – Since the Bible said it and homosexuality is wrong I guess you stay from BBQ and the seafood buffet because the Bible says don’t eat either.
honested
May 23rd, 2012
12:26 pm
Does this help to explain to everyone why our founding document (the Constitution, not the bible) prevents comingling of governance and superstition?
We don’t want our laws constructed by people who have to consult with their imaginary friend.
Otherwise, clowns like this decide who gets to die!
Look before I leap...
May 23rd, 2012
12:29 pm
“I know one thing, it will NEVER EVER happen in the South! That’s a guarantee!”
Pretty sure the same was said about desegregation, blacks having the right to vote and interracial marriage.
The one thing about ignorance and hate, while pervasive and chronic, it is not inevitable.
Carole
May 23rd, 2012
12:29 pm
melshop
I know many see this and look at what he said and take it at face value because of his actual words, but I am telling you there is a difference.
++++++++
What you described/tried to explain is EXACTLY what was done to Rev. Jeremiah Wright. I agree with you that he probably gave this over-the-top example to his congregation because he believed they would undestand exactly what he was saying. Problem is, to the outside world there is no filter and everything said is taken at face value.
kimster
May 23rd, 2012
12:29 pm
This is made to order for George Carlin. I wish here was still around!
TBone
May 23rd, 2012
12:30 pm
The only difference between a believer and a non-believer is that the believer knows he struggles with sin and needs redemption whereas the non-believer is too proud to admit he is a sinner. Bash away now if it makes you feel better about yourself.
J Throckmorton Malcontent
May 23rd, 2012
12:30 pm
According to the polls, we’re only a handful of ballots away from handing the Reverend and his pals the reins of power again. Here comes the future, wrapped in the Flag, carrying the Cross, and paid for by your friendly neighborhood multinational Too Big To Fail Corp.
Carole
May 23rd, 2012
12:35 pm
Get Real
I’ve also seen people with AID. Some so weak they could hardly move. I didn’t see their flesh falling off of their bodies. By the way, if this is God’s wrath on gays, how come there are babies who are born infected. I had a friend who contracted it from her new husband. She wasn’t gay.
Try thinking for yourself sometimes instead of simply repeating assinine thoughts from other people.
The Truth
May 23rd, 2012
12:37 pm
Anyone want to bet that Rev. Charles Worley of Providence Road Baptist Church in Maiden, N.C. is a Republican?
honested
May 23rd, 2012
12:38 pm
J Throckmorton…..
You identify the most terrifying potential disaster!
the cat
May 23rd, 2012
12:39 pm
The Truth-of course he is a repulican. The more horrifying part for me is hearing the congregation agreeing with him.
jconservative
May 23rd, 2012
12:40 pm
Since he is preaching against gays to his congregation, he obviously believes he has a problem with gays in his congregation.
td
May 23rd, 2012
12:41 pm
Bobby
May 23rd, 2012
11:40 am
Where is our good friend TD who insists that churches don’t preach politics from their pulpit. He seems amazingly absent.
Where is the politics? Homosexuality and I think he also mention “baby killing” are moral issues and are perfectly acceptable topics for any church. He said our President supports gay marriage. Is this a political statement? He said if someone asked him who he was going to vote for he said it would not be for someone that supports gay lovers and killing babies. That statement is close to being over the line but it was his views and not the churches views so it is not political. Might I add that those should be the views for any Christian that is walking into the voting booth. You can not hold up being Christian at the same time you support the legalization of sin.
the cat
May 23rd, 2012
12:41 pm
Rick Santorum would have been one agreeing with him. Has he come out yet?
PB
May 23rd, 2012
12:41 pm
Carole,
Why would we not take what this preacher said at “face value”? He said what he said. No sense trying to justify stupid comments by him. If he was tryring to make a point by going “over the top”, his point is lost in his ignorance and mean-ness. Wow, I am amazed that people would defend this guy…
the cat
May 23rd, 2012
12:43 pm
td-to clarify please. You condone what he says?
Mark
May 23rd, 2012
12:45 pm
@ Get Real
May 23rd, 2012
10:45 am
Every seen someone dying of AIDS? I have, i was once a cable man in Atlanta and while working a apt complex off of North Druid hills rd i did a job for 5 black men. Only they were 5 black transvestites wearing high heels, dresses, and makeup. When i first approaced they were peeling the skin off of each others faces/ bodies on the front pourch because AIDS makes your skin fall off. Needless to say, the apt was disgusting as well. AIDS truly is Gods curse to gays, after that day i was convinced.
I’m am convinced that this is the most ignorant statement of the day!
td
May 23rd, 2012
12:45 pm
The Truth
May 23rd, 2012
12:37 pm
Anyone want to bet that Rev. Charles Worley of Providence Road Baptist Church in Maiden, N.C. is a Republican?
I know I am not to question anyones faith but it is hard for me to fathom how anyone can call themself a Christian and a democrat. The two views about the world do not mix.
the cat
May 23rd, 2012
12:48 pm
td-is a mormon a christian?
td
May 23rd, 2012
12:49 pm
the cat
May 23rd, 2012
12:43 pm
td-to clarify please. You condone what he says?
What part? The part about homosexuality is a sin? Yes. The part about we as a nation should not condom the behavior? Yes. That we should fence them off so that they would die and not spread their behavior to others? No. I would much rather deport all socialist before I went after Homosexuals. What they do behind closed doors is between themselves and God.
the cat
May 23rd, 2012
12:50 pm
td-are you saying there are no gay republicans?
Gene
May 23rd, 2012
12:52 pm
Anyone who has been around them when they think they’re talking to one of “their own” knows that any Baptist to says he “loves the sin but hates the sinner” is lying.
td
May 23rd, 2012
12:53 pm
the cat
May 23rd, 2012
12:48 pm
td-is a mormon a christian?
Do not know and really do not care (but remember that protestants left the Catholic church because they thought they were not Christian enough) .
DannyX
May 23rd, 2012
12:54 pm
“I know I am not to question anyones faith but it is hard for me to fathom how anyone can call themself a Christian and a democrat. The two views about the world do not mix.”
Yes, because everyone knows Jesus loved the rich and hated the poor, just like Republicans.
Big Hat
May 23rd, 2012
12:55 pm
More evidence that America 2013 is just Germany 1933.
td
May 23rd, 2012
12:55 pm
the cat
May 23rd, 2012
12:50 pm
td-are you saying there are no gay republicans?
I am sure they many and they are welcome as long as they do not try to change the platform to allow gay marriage or to accept abortion.