Casino gaming, not just ethics, to be placed on GOP ballot

COLUMBUS, Ga. — More from the state Republican convention: We’re headed for a very newsy July 31 ballot.

My AJC colleague Aaron Gould Sheinin told you a few hours ago that the GOP executive committee had approved the placement on this summer’s primary ballot a non-binding referendum on a $100 cap on gifts from lobbyists to state lawmakers.

But we’ve also been told that, for the first time, Republican voters will be asked their opinion on casino gaming in Georgia – a potent issue given a study on the topic produced by the Georgia Lottery Corporation last fall.

Another topic: A “personhood” question on whether every embryo should be accounted an individual with legal rights — much pushed for by Georgia Right to Life.

These questions would only appear on GOP ballots. But if Democrats could be persuaded to adopt those first two – GRTL has little sway in that party — we could have a genuine sense of the state. On issues aside from the transportation sales tax, I mean.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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Ol' Timer

May 18th, 2012
11:47 pm

The item about casino gambling ought to really fire up the good Christian folks, even though they’re slipping down to Mississippi now.

And, the “personhood” deal is a back ally attempt to attack abortion rights.

5150 UOAD

May 18th, 2012
11:53 pm

Abortion is wrong and so is Gay marriage. Call it Gay Partnership and don’t do it in Churches or God’s House of Worship.


May 19th, 2012
12:01 am

When will we find out who’s profiting from this decision? Will we see them laugh at the gullible slathering public who bow at the false piety? Will truth be revealed?


May 19th, 2012
12:01 am

Republicans= Pro-Life until birth.


May 19th, 2012
12:02 am

I could care less if a dude married a dude or a chick married a chick, just give me a casino in Georgia that I can go to, lol. Just kidding (actually I am not.)


May 19th, 2012
12:11 am

Gay marriage is a civil right and is legal in several states within 10 yrs it will be legal in all states So bigots like yourself should get used to it as for getting married in a place of worship a church that is we’re two consenting adults get married

Frank Long

May 19th, 2012
12:15 am

If life begins at conception then we need to remove the “Date of Birth” entries on legal documents and replace it with “Date of Conception” to make it a legal binding document.


May 19th, 2012
12:17 am

Can someone please translate Kujohn’s post for me?


May 19th, 2012
12:20 am

@ 5150 UOAD What about the churches and other religious temples that approve of same-sex marriage and want to perform such unions? Aren’t you infringing on their right to practice their beliefs? This world would be a more peaceful place without bigots such as yourself.
And for the record, if you don’t agree with abortion, don’t get one. Other than that, I do not see how your opinion on the matter is of any significance.

Marcus Areyouforrealius

May 19th, 2012
12:28 am

Y’all missed the real news tonight. Diabetic kicked out of Windy Hill Road Popeye’s over his service animal. Look for Eric Holder to be making campaign appearances in the area real soon. What a bunch of jerks at Popeye’s. Maybe the guy should have hit up Doc Green’s for a salad.

History Lesson

May 19th, 2012
12:37 am

Jim, in 1954 Albert Patterson was assassinated by the Phenix City machine after winning a primary for Alabama AG. Write about that and how much better things were and are on the Georgia side.

Patterson’s son went on to get elected Governor and sent the ole boys on down. Revenge is sweet in politics, and in life. It really is a testament to something that Josh McKoon can now get elected as the Senator from COLUMBUS and push gift limits.

@ Slip - 12:01 am

May 19th, 2012
12:57 am

“When will we find out who’s profiting from this decision? ” – you will see beneficiaries from both sides of the aisle. In fact, Fulton County Commissioner, Robb Pitts (D), has been one of the earliest proponents of casino type gambling for many years.


May 19th, 2012
1:43 am

The fix is in on casinos. The land is bought, the deals struck. You are not fooling anyone, Governor.


May 19th, 2012
4:32 am

kujohn – is opposite sex marriage a civil right?

Sick of Republicans

May 19th, 2012
5:26 am

These should be on the general election ballot and the right to vote on them should be given to ALL residents not just self serving Republicans.


May 19th, 2012
6:45 am

If one reads the daily police blotters from across the State, theres a stong case for more abortions and an even stronger case for making them retroactive.

Markus Justice

May 19th, 2012
7:00 am

Kujohn, gay marriage is not a civil right, if it is then what about me marrying 5 women? Call it a civil union but no where in all of civilize society has marrying people of the same sex been called marriage until now. I could care less what you do and if you find a church that will marry you, nothing is stopping you from that. As far as benefits, a will or change in policy can take care of that. What you want to do is change the definition of marriage and have the rest of society recognize that people of the same sex are the same as heterosexual couples and its not. It has nothing to do with bigotry, its biology and most of the bigots and hatred are on the LGBT side.


May 19th, 2012
7:39 am

Want the current marriage definition from Webster’s?

a (1): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2): the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage

ramblin' gamblin' engineer

May 19th, 2012
7:57 am

Time to LET IT RIDE!! Give me a casino in every county, so all those gamblers can spend their money right here!


May 19th, 2012
8:20 am

Casinos, like lotteries, are a tax on the ignorant. Nothing is produced, no wealth is created. It is yet another transfer of assets from the lowest socioeconomic segment of society. A primary qualification for becoming a politician in Georgia is having sociopathic personality disorder.


May 19th, 2012
8:31 am

Why can’t casino gambling be voted on as a local issue like Sunday liquor sales? That way each community could decide whether or not they want it? Why give Mississippi all of that revenue?
The personhood issue is another example of the GOP war on women because it would outlaw many forms of contraception.
Gay folks ought to have the same civil rights as everybody else.

Bob Loblaw

May 19th, 2012
8:46 am

Wait–abortion questions AND gambling questions? On the same GOP Ballot? Hilairous.


May 19th, 2012
8:48 am

Cutty, well said.

brother bill

May 19th, 2012
8:52 am

Casinos provide an excellent way to voluntarily separate folks from their money.
Just like the Lottery, millions must lose small amounts for one to win big.
The difference is that most folks buy a couple of lottery tickets a week.
While in a casino, it is easy to make many separate bets.
Mathematically, you increase your certainty of loss, the more bets you make.
Your best odds are to make one bet and then leave.
If you start with $1,000, and bet $10 1,000 times with the house having 3% edge, your expectation is to leave with $700. If you bet $1,000 once, your expectation is to leave with $997.
Of course, if you bet once, you will either leave with $2,000 or nothing.
The point is, that if the house has the edge, you can expect to lose.
That is how the Casinos can afford to construct the building, pay for advertising, labor, maintenance, taxes, etc.


May 19th, 2012
9:06 am

Morality aside, there are some legitimate arguments against casinos. First, it enables and encourages problem gamblers. Second is the problem of encouraging bad decisions like betting the rent money. Third and most important, it only diverts money from other businesses.

Solution to all three – put the machines at the airport beyond the security lines. Millions of people passing through with time on their hands and money in their pockets.


May 19th, 2012
9:25 am

I agree with Bill @ 9:06 am. Also, it is odd that abortion and casinos will both be on the ballot. Makes me wonder if the GOP leaders actually know the GOP voters.


May 19th, 2012
9:49 am

We need to legalize casino gambling and prostitution as well. I want brothels in Atlanta!

Judge Smails

May 19th, 2012
9:53 am

The actual numbers from gaming are just about 45% of the revenue generated by the casinos. The rest comes from bars, restaurants, shows and parking.

In an economy desparate for jobs, we should really take a close look at how casinos can create much needed positions in all capacities.

Immoral people will always find a way and place to practice their craft. Maybe converting Underground Atlanta into a casino complex would keep them closer to home.


May 19th, 2012
10:52 am

Does anyone believe it is a coincidence that the gay marriage issue has come up in this election year? Every four years, all the wedge issues get pulled out of the closet (no pun intended) and we the people are distracted from the truth that legislators did not tend to the business that would serve our best interests. No, they tended to their shadowy bosses’ business. Recommended reading: Federalist No. 10 and the lyrics of this song


May 19th, 2012
12:22 pm

If Republicans were true Christians, we would not to put ethics issues on the ballot. Lobbyists should be banned. $100.00 is $100.00 too much in lobbying gifts because the sole purpose of lobbying is to influence votes.

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Moving Forward

May 19th, 2012
8:23 pm

Hey History Lesson. 1955 happened and a lot since – you say things were and are better on the GA side of the Chattahoochee as if the mob still controlled Phenix City. They were removed by military force in the ONLY instance of martial RULE (not martial law) in US history. You cannot mention gambling in Phenix City now. A few years ago, Alabama tried to institute a lottery and it barely failed. It failed because Phenix City voted 97% against it and Russell and Lee Counties (in which Phenix City rests) were not far behind. Beyond that, because of the tax structure, people like to live in AL because of lower property taxes and income taxes and work and shop in GA because of lower sales taxes and more better paying jobs. All of that is changing with the substantial industrial growth in Phenix City in the past few years and several major mixed use and retail developments along the riverfront. So, you can watch Phenix City from afar with amazement, awe, envy and no gambling.