New and renewed rules

Ladies and gentlemen,

In an effort to improve the conversation on this blog, and to encourage an atmosphere for family reading, we’re introducing, reiterating and enforcing some simple rules that will govern commenting. Effective immediately:

1) Issues will be discussed in language suitable to the public square. Certain words and phrases will automatically trigger a block, as will an abundance of hyperlinks. If a commenter’s imagination outpaces our preparation, then we will adjust.

2) Theft of commenting “handles” will result in the deletion of the comment on the first offense, and the banning of the author on the second.

3) The posts by those with overlong handles will be removed. Keep them simple, short and clean.

4) No personal attacks.

5) Cut-and-paste comments will be deleted.

6) The first dozen or so comments on a post will need to stay on topic. After that, we’ll let the conversation wander where it will – on issues. The purpose of commenting on this blog is to encourage discussion. If your purpose is to halt discussion, or disrupt it, or to embarrass your fellow commenters, then you need to reconsider your participation.

We’ll start there, and add or subtract as needed.

Best regards, and happy commenting.

77 comments Add your comment

Wondering

May 14th, 2012
6:13 pm

Short, simple and to the point. Thanks. Please repost often.

Look before I leap...

May 14th, 2012
6:21 pm

Can we get clarification on the following:
“5) Cut-and-paste comments will be deleted.”

I generally include statements from a post when I am responding to that particular comment.
Is this now banned?

“4) No personal attacks.”
Does this include the terms libtard, contard? How about lib or con? Is moonbat now a forbidden term?

“to embarrass your fellow commenters”

Does this include using facts that refute moronic statements/responses?

Aaron Burr V Mexico

May 14th, 2012
6:31 pm

Reading the most recent comments I would say

No. Yes. Yes. No. No except how I’d use it. Yes. No unless you actually use that language when you post it.

td

May 14th, 2012
6:38 pm

5: Please give a little better clarification. I normally cut and paste a previous comment that I am currently commenting on. Is this allowable now or would you not like us to continue this practice? I also cut and paste relevant sentences from other articles (with the link to credit the author) to enhance the current conversation. Do you not wish this practice to continue?

Aaron Burr V Mexico

May 14th, 2012
6:40 pm

(again munches popcorn, watching expectantly)

Aaron Burr V Mexico

May 14th, 2012
6:43 pm

As a side note: I am MORE than willing to follow any rules you post Jim but if you’re forbidding comments re: a certain legal matter then SAY no posting on that and don’t make me waste 10 minutes posting on it, then reposting only to realize you’ve set the filter to forbid words like “Court”.

Doug

May 14th, 2012
6:45 pm

td – While I share your opinion of Republicans, I feel that calling people scum in public could be contributing to the inability of our leaders to work out anything.

hiram

May 14th, 2012
6:46 pm

What about verbosity and redundancy? Anyone reading this blog soon realizes that 2 people post 80% of the text, and it’s the same posts every day.

jd

May 14th, 2012
6:50 pm

In a Republic, such as ours, government is a reflection of its populace. I wonder which part of the populace is reflected by the commenters?

Aaron Burr V Mexico

May 14th, 2012
6:53 pm

Personal Anecdote: I had a family member performing clinic escort duty at an abortion clinic. Every day she would help these frightened women move to and from their cars while they were hounded and shouted at by people. They would hold up signs with pictures of dead babies. Small children were told that their parents were going to hell. Or that they were going to hurt their parents if they went inside.

At one point, one of these people was being so ugly that said family member held up a mirror to show the abortion protester how ugly she was being. Then, in a pure demonstration of the rightness of her cause and her faith in God, she recoiled in horror and accused said family member of “Casting a Spell on her!”

The judge forbid mirrors to be displayed within 200 feet of the clinic.

Goober RIP

May 14th, 2012
6:55 pm

Good luck with that.

Centrist

May 14th, 2012
6:56 pm

Great.

Let’s see how it works. So far, td had his handle stolen and here and Republicans called names. Maybe THAT is acceptable, though.

O.K. to post how these work?

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Look before I leap...

May 14th, 2012
7:06 pm

How do u get font adjustments in? Tho not a fan of emoticons in general, they do have their place.

Centrist

May 14th, 2012
7:11 pm

Not all of these font adjustments work here (can’t figure out color, but other posters have):

http://www.livejournal.com/support/faqbrowse.bml?faqid=72

shocked

May 14th, 2012
7:17 pm

….Someone breaks the rules 10 minutes after they are posted? Like…..wow. That’s a spit in the face.

td

May 14th, 2012
7:26 pm

Doug

May 14th, 2012
6:45 pm

That was not me but a person breaking rule 2. The previous post was the same imposter so let us see if Jim will enforce his rules.

hiram

May 14th, 2012
7:26 pm

Looks like he’s just getting warmed up. I’m sure there is more to come.

Look before I leap...

May 14th, 2012
7:42 pm

no ban on the “td” hijacker.

Maybe Jim is at dinner.
Will come back to see if the fake td post has been removed.

Centrist

May 14th, 2012
7:43 pm

FYI – what started this today was when I was the first poster in the “Morning Jolt”, which headlined Gay marriage react good news for Romney in Georgia — but women voters a problem.

My on topic comment was censored, along with all of my following posts:

“Men voters are an EQUAL problem for Obama, but not reported by the liberal media.”

jgalloway

May 14th, 2012
7:45 pm

To “Look before I leap…”

–Including statements from a previous post is fine. What we don’t want are long blocks of copy written by someone else.

– That’s right. “Moonbat” and like phrases, when directed at an individual, is a personal attack. Direct yourself at the person’s actions, not the person.

– You certainly refute moronic statements — in a manner that respects the other commenter.

jgalloway

May 14th, 2012
7:45 pm

td:

That’s not a problem. See the above explanation.

jgalloway

May 14th, 2012
7:47 pm

Aaron Burr v. Mexico:

I can’t understand your hints. Send me an email if you want me to understand.

jgalloway

May 14th, 2012
7:48 pm

Doug:

That wasn’t td. That was an imposter who has now been banned.

jgalloway

May 14th, 2012
7:51 pm

Centrist:

Your comments are welcome, but you won’t be allowed to dominate the position of first commenter on this blog, setting the tone for all discussion. If you are consistently the first commenter, I will hold your remarks until the conversation has established itself.

Look before I leap...

May 14th, 2012
8:16 pm

I can call Michelle Bachman, Christine O’Donnell and Sarah Plain a moonbat, yes? Unless they are posting here?

jgalloway

May 14th, 2012
8:25 pm

To “Look before I leap….”

I’d rather you wouldn’t. I’d rather you offer your reasons for thinking these women off-base.

Centrist

May 14th, 2012
8:31 pm

I have no problem with any of these protocols – it got out of hand blocking all of my posts today until I found out how it works and ways around the auto-blocking – which I won’t post again (those posts were manually and understandedly removed, too). Truce.

In addition to the right wing “moonbats” Look before I leap… mentions, how about lefties Biden, Reid, and Pelosi?

Look before I leap...

May 14th, 2012
8:42 pm

@Jim

Then Odumbo, ODummer, Oblamer, “the socialist”, “the marxist”, “the shrub”, Dubya, Noot, Newtie, Mittens, fembot, plasticon are also off limits?

Slippery slope here my friend and as a journalist, I would think you should be leaning away from censorship as much as possible.

I concur that we should all avoid insulting other posters as much as possible. Public officials should be fair game. I do not wish to have to explain my disdain for the likes of Palin, O’Donnell and Bachman (or McKinney for that matter) each and every time they are referenced when a single non-vulgar, pejorative will suffice.

But, your blog, your rules, my choice.

Centrist

May 14th, 2012
8:50 pm

Look posted “Then Odumbo, ODummer, Oblamer, “the socialist”, “the marxist”, “the shrub”, Dubya, Noot, Newtie, Mittens, fembot, plasticon are also off limits?”

While I personally disdain partisan statements and name calling, it would be very hard to control. As I have sometimes stated – as soon as I see it, or the handle from such a known poster – I stop reading and scroll to the next post. Often makes for quick reading, too. I never reply, and if others would not encourage them – maybe they will stop or go away.

double

May 14th, 2012
8:53 pm

All sounds fair to me.

da pope

May 14th, 2012
8:54 pm

it is as it was

td

May 14th, 2012
8:56 pm

Look before I leap…

May 14th, 2012
8:42 pm

We are in actual agreement. Leave the personal attacks at home but the politicians are fair game as long as it is clean.

Look before I leap...

May 14th, 2012
9:00 pm

@da pope

“it is as it was”…before

Guardian, ST:TOS “The City on the Edge of Forever”
Season 1 EP:28
Written by Harlen Ellison

Best ST:TOS episode ever.

Look before I leap...

May 14th, 2012
9:11 pm

Well this a blind shout-out to a prodigious poster here…

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Mid Ga Retiree

May 14th, 2012
9:14 pm

Thanks Jim. Maybe these rules will attract a better class of blogger.

Jesus Christ crushes NWO, DBMs

May 14th, 2012
9:22 pm

Excuse me while I attempt to get in where I fit in under the new and renewed rules. My first attempt seems to have failed miserably.

Amen?

Jesus Christ crushes NWO, DBMs

May 14th, 2012
9:38 pm

It may be difficult for me to get in where I fit in under the new and renewed rules because I’m African American. It is my contention that African Americans, White Americans, Asians Americans, etc see the world differently, or they should.

Europeans have a Eurocentric perspective of the world and African Americans have or should have an African view of the world.

All people had an African view of the world except for the last thousand years.

Amen?

Aquagirl

May 14th, 2012
9:39 pm

Jim attempts to hogtie us crazy people. Film at 11.

Hate them all

May 14th, 2012
9:48 pm

Family reading…..snicker…snort…..guffaw…..har har har……that’s rich…..whoo boy…….

Look before I leap...

May 14th, 2012
10:04 pm

“It is my contention that African Americans, White Americans, Asians Americans, etc see the world differently, or they should. ”

It is MY contention that if your continental heritage goes back more than 2 generations, you are an American period. And even if I am wrong in that, to group “White Americans” into a single classification is a silly as grouping “African Americans” into a single taxonomy.

Question Man

May 14th, 2012
10:10 pm

Might it be easier simply to delete posts in the sole discretion of Jim Galloway? If you have total power, won’t you use it judiciously? (Despite what is said about absolute power…?)

n

Question Man

May 14th, 2012
10:14 pm

Look: Are you implying that because I don’t go back two generations on either my mother’s or my father’s side, I am a lesser American?

pb

May 14th, 2012
10:17 pm

Jesus Christ etc

Think the new format might cramp your style?

Look before I leap...

May 14th, 2012
10:23 pm

@Question
Nope not at all.

I am simply saying that the impact/import of geographical heritage lessens over time.
The 2 generations comment is admittedly arbitrary. And i used it to make a point.

In retrospect, JC was making a point that has less to do with geographical origins than it does racial background.

The way I interpret what he is saying is that Asians, Negros and Caucasians should view the world differently even if they have a common nationality.

I don’t agree with that.

I think there is plenty of room in the USA for a hetero-generous society. I don’t think it should (or does) align with racial/ethnic bloodlines.

pb

May 14th, 2012
10:38 pm

look before I leap,

Well said.

Jesus Christ crushes NWO, DBMs

May 14th, 2012
10:40 pm

No one should be ashamed of who you are. If you are Asian, don’t attempt to respond or act as an African American. That’s disgusting!

If you are white, don’t be ashamed to be a white person and for the sake of God Almighty, don’t find comfort in forcing other races to act and respond as white people do.

And if you are a black man, don’t act as if you are a white person. It’s disgusting.

By the way, if my wife happened to divorce me or otherwise, God forbid, I wouldn’t dare touch these integrationist African American women. They act too Eurocentric for me.

Y’all feel me?

Amen?

Look before I leap...

May 14th, 2012
10:44 pm

OK
I’ll bite..

What the heck does it mean to act as an African American? Or act “white” or act “Asian”?

otter357

May 14th, 2012
10:45 pm

Good for you, Jim.
I really like “Political Insider” but your comment section has been cringe-inducing. Repellent, even.

jconservative

May 14th, 2012
11:15 pm

Works for me.

Rabbit

May 14th, 2012
11:16 pm

Thank you, Jim. I may return for a while to see if the rules will actually result in constructive conversation in your virtual public square. I do not see polical insider blog as an entertainment site like Jim Rome in the sports blogs or even the noisy name callers of talk radio across the spectrum.

There is a unique opportunity for discussion between people of differing views that just might lead to a day when we all respect opinions, where we respect the people who make them even when we disagree.

That said, many who seek office set poor examples when they scorch the earth about an opponent only to endorse them a week later. Civility must ALWAYS be practiced. I apologies for raising my voice when I said ‘always’.