Justice on case against Arizona: ‘You can see it’s not selling very well’

Good news for fans of Georgia’s HB 87, from the Associated Press:

WASHINGTON — Supreme Court justices strongly suggested Wednesday that they are ready to allow Arizona to enforce part of a controversial state law requiring police officers to check the immigration status of people they think are in the country illegally.

Liberal and conservative justices reacted skeptically to the Obama administration’s argument that the state exceeded its authority when it made the records check, and another provision allowing suspected illegal immigrants to be arrested without a warrant, part of Arizona law aimed at driving illegal immigrants elsewhere.

“You can see it’s not selling very well,” Justice Sonia Sotomayor told Obama administration Solicitor General Donald Verrilli.

It was unclear what the court would do with other aspects of the law that have been put on hold by lower federal courts. The other blocked provisions make it a state crime for immigrants not to have immigration registration papers and for illegal immigrants to seek work or hold a job.

Gov. Jan Brewer, who signed the law two years ago, was on hand for the final argument of the court’s term.

The latest high court clash between the administration and states turns on the extent of states’ role in immigration policy, which is essentially under the federal government’s control.

Verrilli tried to persuade the justices that they should view the law in its entirety and inconsistent with federal immigration policy. He said the records check would allow the state to “engage effectively in mass incarceration” of undocumented immigrants.

But Chief Justice John Roberts was among those on the court who took issue with Verrilli’s characterization of the check of immigration status, saying the state merely wants to notify federal authorities it has someone in custody who may be in the U.S. illegally. “It seems to me that the federal government just doesn’t want to know who’s here illegally and who’s not,” Roberts said.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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62 comments Add your comment

Spagetio

April 25th, 2012
1:36 pm

Political expediency does not equal common sense.

Not A Clock

April 25th, 2012
1:36 pm

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Even when it is an evil demonic clock from hell.

Sam

April 25th, 2012
1:44 pm

Let’s all pray that The Supreme Court has more common sense than the Obama administration.

LH20

April 25th, 2012
2:00 pm

Interesting that Mississippi failed to pass a similar measure after opposition from the state’s chamber of commerce. It seems that Republican ideals are RIGHT, unless, of course, it hurts business then they can be ignored. HYPOCRITES!

A True Patriot

April 25th, 2012
2:01 pm

@Sam

April 25th, 2012
1:44 pm
Let’s all pray that The Supreme Court has more common sense than the Obama administration.

I have more “common sense” than the Obama Administration :) Now that’s scary.

Jack From Cumming

April 25th, 2012
2:04 pm

Why would anyone care about stricter laws against illegal immigration….unless they thought it woud helptheir voter base….hmmmm.

Marlboro Man

April 25th, 2012
2:09 pm

If you hurt the brother of someone who can vote, it might hurt you.

td

April 25th, 2012
2:09 pm

The majority of republicans must do the world a favor and die a slow and painful death. I repeat…republicans must die a slow and painful death!

Centrist

April 25th, 2012
2:10 pm

The Obama administration, liberal reporters/bloggers, and posters here have never been logical about this issue – all they saw were potential future Democratic party votes. This has been a disgusting affront to our rule of law, very similar to the voter ID type laws to limit voter fraud. Add the blind eyes toward the well known abuse and fraud with our numerous welfare/assistance/disability programs in order to buy Democratic votes with this win at any cost mentality eats away at our social fabric and trust in government. What is the big attraction of being in charge of a ruined economy and divided country, other than personal gain?

I don’t trust Republicans to be in control of all three branches of our government – they already proved they were as equally self-serving. Our only answer is to demand bi-partisanship from those few politicians who actually want to make our country stronger.

Jason

April 25th, 2012
2:13 pm

“It seems to me that the federal government just doesn’t want to know who’s here illegally and who’s not,” more like the business interests that control the federal government don’t want to lose the ability to hire third world labor in a first world economy. There is a huge economic incentive to look the other way, unless of course you include all the external cost heaped on the taxpayers.

Sam

April 25th, 2012
2:15 pm

Td. I agree with you. They have yet to do anything to help society move in a positive direction. They take the world and spin it out of control. They believe in making other people suffer. For the interest of the U.S.A, republicans should do us all a favor and dig themselves a resting place. It is pure evil in its most simple form. I pray that republicans past a certain age limit die a slow and painful death! KIDNEY STONES TO ALL REPUBLICANS!!!

Jackie

April 25th, 2012
2:36 pm

Classy and civil as always

carlosgvv

April 25th, 2012
2:36 pm

It’s all about power, money and votes.

td

April 25th, 2012
2:40 pm

Sam

April 25th, 2012
2:15 pm

You are addressing the wrong td.

td

April 25th, 2012
2:44 pm

This issue has always been about the liberal vision that the Federal government is all powerful and states only have the power the Feds grant them. This is the opposite of what our founders envisioned and now the tide is starting to turn. The AZ and the GA law will be upheld as Constitution just like Obamacare will be declared unconstitutional.

Sam

April 25th, 2012
2:52 pm

The following person kept republican terrorists out of Georgia politics…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7_ZllSVq0g&feature=endscreen&NR=1

mehlman rings twice

April 25th, 2012
2:56 pm

The other troubling part of this is Scalia’s comment that “…it’s not selling very well”. What does that mean? Is he suggesting that the public doesn’t like it? That’s not his job – he is supposed to decide on the constitutionality of the law, not on the public’s opinion. By the way, there is a reason the federal government has jurisdiction in certain cases (can you imagine if states were allow to individually declare war on foreign countries)?

Go figure

April 25th, 2012
2:56 pm

Hmmm, the “evil” folk Sam and td mention only want to deport illegals, but they wish painful death on their fellow countrymen. Hard to tell who is the evil one.. Must be some of that partisan evil. – “Do as I say not as I do”, if you will.

Sam

April 25th, 2012
3:00 pm

We were warned of republicans long before they came into power in this state and destroyed America…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbBBKV9Wu8U

mehlman rings twice

April 25th, 2012
3:01 pm

The other shoe that might drop here is if a group of New England states start checking the immigration status of English and Irish immigrants in their university systems who go to school on the taxpayers’s dime and then high-tail it back to Europe out of the reach of the U.S. Department of Education loan collection branch.

td

April 25th, 2012
3:03 pm

Go figure

April 25th, 2012
2:56 pm

The first td you mentioned is an imposter that for some reason enjoys using others screen names.

td

April 25th, 2012
3:04 pm

mehlman rings twice

April 25th, 2012
3:01 pm

I am all for that suggestion.

Sam

April 25th, 2012
3:08 pm

My fellow countrymen! Let us not allow terrorists and ideologues to control the fate of the U.S.A. We must listen to greatness that warned us of the dangers that are posed by republicans! LET US UNITED AND OUST REPUBLICANS! THEY TRULY ARE EVIL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z_kR08jd78&feature=relmfu

DannyX

April 25th, 2012
3:16 pm

“…all they saw were potential future Democratic party votes.”

Really “Centrist”???

Is that what Ronald Reagan thought when he signed the bill that gave over 20 million illegal aliens amnesty? Is that what Jeb Bush thought in Florida? Rick Perry in Texas? Arnie in California? Marco Rubio now?

All those liberal Republicans trying to win Democratic votes???

Michelle

April 25th, 2012
3:18 pm

Anyone who honestly thinks local cops will not abuse their authority by stopping anyone they think “looks illegal” Is either naive or stupid. Say you have a cop who’s homophobic and makes it his mission to stop any latino in the gay district and harrass them, how is that not an abuse of authority?

yuzeyurbrane

April 25th, 2012
3:22 pm

I agree that politics has a lot to do with this. But the moving force is the Republicans. They passed this law and have come up with other laws to help them hold power against the inexorable power of demographics. It reflects that the party has essential not been democratic in its principles for most of the time since its founding. Exceptions are Lincoln, TR, and Eisenhower. Remember the slogan spouted by many pre-Teapeople, “the US is a republic, not a democracy”?

td

April 25th, 2012
3:24 pm

You gotta understand the nature of the game people. 9-11 was an inside job. That is why people vote republican party at every level of government. We live to make people suffer because we are not a confrontational breed. We will hide behind closed doors and provide all the resources for Americans to kill Americans. What makes you think that Latinos are an exception. We also like to start civil wars in Mexico and invade third-world countries because of……………….OIL!!!!!!! That is the nature of MY FELLOW REPUBLICANS!!!!

td

April 25th, 2012
3:25 pm

oh yeah…I forgot to mention children and opium! REPUBLICANS WILL COME INTO YOUR LIVING ROOM!!!

mehlman rings twice

April 25th, 2012
3:32 pm

Michelle,
You don’t know the half of it. About 30 years ago I witnessed a police officer in another state plant illegal drugs in the trunk of the owner of an adult movie theater only because he didn’t like his type of (legal) business.

Michelle

April 25th, 2012
3:37 pm

Does not surprise me. Cops are supposed to protect us from criminals. Who protects us from the cops?

Centrist

April 25th, 2012
3:49 pm

It is absurd to be prejudiced against the police because of a small percentage of them who break the law. In most towns, cities, and states candidates are carefully screened, well trained, and the vast majority apply the law fairly. Such qualified police forces are necessary for society to function. Blanket statements above are a result of gross bias or ignorance.

td

April 25th, 2012
3:59 pm

Michelle

April 25th, 2012
3:18 pm

Anyone who honestly thinks local cops will not abuse their authority by stopping anyone they think “looks illegal” Is either naive or stupid.

Well if they are now going to pull over all the Hispanics and they already pull over all the African Americans (just because they are black) then they are not going to have any time left to bother me:-)

Centrism

April 25th, 2012
4:19 pm

I don’t talk to name callers or people who ask questions that make me look dumb.

RexDogma

April 25th, 2012
4:31 pm

It’s funny how much republicans are against immigration, until they need their fields picked. HA HA HA! What to do My Dear!!!

td

April 25th, 2012
4:35 pm

RexDogma

April 25th, 2012
4:31 pm

As soon as we get all the illegals out then we can start cutting off welfare and making prisoners work and we will have all the crop pickers we need.

Martin Williams

April 25th, 2012
4:39 pm

I hope the Federal government has enough room to put the 12 plus million illegal immigrants and also the funds to feed them until they are sent back. Just like the drug war and the trillions of dollars spent to stop it, the immigration war is NOT winable and we all know that. Wars are not winable just look at Iraq and Afganistan wasting more than 5-6 billions per week and our health system falling apart. Just found out that 90% of dentist in this great country do not accept medicare/medicaid patients……..SAD!

CNN is a joke

April 25th, 2012
4:50 pm

Psst! Sam, the DEMOCRATS are in power. You are welcome to your own opinions, however misguided they might be. But you are not welcome to your own facts. FACT: the DEMOCRATS are in power.

Centrist

April 25th, 2012
5:06 pm

@ CNN is a joke posted “FACT: the DEMOCRATS are in power.”

There are 3 branches of government. Democrats only currently hold power in the Executive branch. SCOTUS is reviewing and likely going to reject Obamacare and the states ILLEGAL immigration restrictions currently held in abeyance. The Republicans hold a large majority in the U.S. House of Representatives and have enough votes in the Senate to filibuster bills and appointments they can not condone.

We have a SPLIT government – just where many voters like it to be.

zeke

April 25th, 2012
5:27 pm

scotus is as nonpartisan as td, only reason obamacare to be struck down is politics not scholarly research.

Bob

April 25th, 2012
5:33 pm

What part of “illegal” do you folks not understand? I’ll be so glad when the majority of our voters realize that change and improvement are two different things. Bye, bye Barry…we hardley knew ye.

DannyX

April 25th, 2012
5:45 pm

From today’s Marietta Daily Journal,

“The Obama administration brags that it deported nearly 800,000 people in its first two years, which many would say constitutes a good start. That number is greater than the number deported during the George W. Bush administration–”

Bob what part of Obama administration in 2 years deported more illegal immigrants than W did in 8 do you not understand?

Maybe “Centrist” can help you answer.

Bob

April 25th, 2012
5:51 pm

Thanks Danny, but your facts are wrong. You need to stop believing all the trash that comes from Holder, Axelrod, and the other spinmasters.

DannyX

April 25th, 2012
5:53 pm

“You need to stop believing all the trash that comes from Holder, Axelrod, and the other spinmasters.”

“Spinmasters”? You mean like those Obama lovers at the Marietta Daily Journal?

You got caught with your facts down.

Bob

April 25th, 2012
6:02 pm

Now Danny, you ought to be ashamed son, and you seem intelligent, too. Tell me what good…what average, your boys have done for America. All they have done is brought Chicage-style corruption and lies to the White House. Bye, bye!

TruthBe

April 25th, 2012
6:03 pm

First of all Republicans are for “LEGAL” immigration like most Americans are. The real issues is
“ILLEGAL” immigration. I will say it one more time for you stupid Obama voters. Republicans are for “LEGAL” immigration like most Americans are. Got it folks?

Don't Tread

April 25th, 2012
6:06 pm

Illegals need to go home. If they want to come back, let them apply for citizenship the legal way.

David Granger

April 25th, 2012
6:12 pm

Every one of the state laws in question are direct duplicates of Federal Law regarding illegal immigration. The problem is, the federal government is NOT enforcing them. The thing that makes this such a mess is that now the laws are actually being ENFORCED.
I’m glad to see SCOTUS take this case, because we need some comprehensive immigration reform. There needs to be some type of amnesty…which will tick off the conservatives. But to make sure there won’t be another ten million illegals in a few more years, we also need to seal the border as airtight as we can get it…which will tick off the liberals.
There is nothing worse…nor more hypocritical and subject to abuse…than to have laws on the books that half the people want to completely ignore, and half the people want to see enforced very strictly.
Hopefully this might be a catalyst that brings us reasonable immigration laws that the federal government will actuall enforce, as is their job.

Centrist

April 25th, 2012
6:21 pm

David Granger posted “Hopefully this might be a catalyst that brings us reasonable immigration laws that the federal government will actuall[y] enforce, as is their job.”

So, do you think if a handful of red states pass and enforce anti-ILLEGAL immigration laws that the federal government/ President/ Senate/ House will ever pass and sign legislation to enforce our borders?

I don’t see that happening. Democrats will filibuster it in the Senate. States are simply going to have to do this on their own – but they might get more federal government help with a Republican President.

Colbear

April 25th, 2012
6:22 pm

Centrism

April 25th, 2012
6:23 pm

You see my statement was bipartisan because I said the words Democrats and Republican in the same post.