On the ‘tea party’ label and social conservatism

Charlie Harper of the Dublin Courier Herald has a tough piece today on the Peach Tea Party, and whether the “tea party” brand has lost its meaning. A few paragraphs via PeachPundit:

The Cherokee County TEA Party begins every meeting with a simple reminder: “We are about lower taxes and smaller government. Anyone else here supporting other issues are welcome, but this is the focus of this group.”

…[N]ow many of the same folks who have destroyed the once proud brand represented by Georgia Right To Life have decided that they too must be a TEA Party in order to be taken seriously.

These people who are Proselytizing Evangelicals Advocating Conservative Hypocrisy have decided to co-opt the brand of those who are Taxed Enough Already to form the PEACH TEA Party. Tuesday, they decided to target 16 state Republicans as RINOs (Republicans In Name Only) and one independent for defeat as well…. The litmus test to determine opposition, however, seems to have nothing to do with taxes and everything to do with opposition to Doug McKillip’s fetal pain abortion restriction bill.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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53 comments Add your comment

Tonya Harding

April 9th, 2012
2:07 pm

Good for Harper.

GaBlue

April 9th, 2012
2:16 pm

What kind of wussy, insecure men and self-loathing women allow the likes of Dan Becker to make decisions for them and demand those decisions be implemented — by force if necessary — upon the rest of the population?

Take a look at the “Peach Tea Party” and the “Representatives” they bully/own, and you’ll have your answer.

Three Jack

April 9th, 2012
2:23 pm

Dan and the rest of the Beckerheads have repeatedly shown their lack of discretion when stampeding other people’s property/rights/branding. It should come as no surprise that they would attempt to co-opt the good name of the Tea Party in order to enhance the failed GRTL brand.

Centrist

April 9th, 2012
2:24 pm

Thanks to the Dublin paper, PeachPundit, and finally Galloway for finally posting this – previously at least Gallowy left the impression that Peach Tea Party was representative of the Tea Party itself.

This makes clear that the social issues are NOT part of Tea Party. Once again for those following this, here are the 10 basic precepts of the Tea Party which most liberals oppose:

Ten Core Beliefs of the Modern-Day Tea Party Movement

http://www.teaparty-platform.com/

1. Eliminate Excessive Taxes

2. Eliminate the National Debt

3. Eliminate Deficit Spending

4. Protect Free Markets

5. Abide by the Constitution of the United States

6. Promote Civic Responsibility

7. Reduce the Overall Size of Government

8. Believe in the People

9. Avoid the Pitfalls of Politics

10. Maintain Local Independence

td

April 9th, 2012
2:28 pm

Cherokee County Tea Party is a joke. Go look at their courthouse and then tell me they believe in small government!

Becky

April 9th, 2012
2:33 pm

I truly believe the politicians, tea party members, and right wing entertainment hosts and nutcases should be brought up on felony charges for practicing medicine without a license.

Centrist

April 9th, 2012
2:35 pm

Governments in Cities, Counties, States, or the federal government often do not necessarily reflect the ideals of local Tea Party constituents. But they do feel their influence. Branding any branch of the Tea Party as “a joke” because the way government entities may be operating is totally unfair.

Harry Paulms

April 9th, 2012
2:35 pm

What kind of political party has no social agenda whatsoever? Is the tea party socially liberal, socially moderate, or socially conservative?

Centrist

April 9th, 2012
2:41 pm

Harry Paulms posted “What kind of political party has no social agenda whatsoever? Is the tea party socially liberal, socially moderate, or socially conservative?”

The Tea Party movement is not a registered national political party, but a grass roots non-centralized organization. It does not and needs not address social issues. It is concerned with the 10 core issues listed above.

Aquagirl

April 9th, 2012
2:47 pm

This makes clear that the social issues are NOT part of Tea Party.

Really? The liberal lamestream media is supposed to do this? How about the Teanuts get off their Medicare-subsidized butts and DO IT THEMSELVES? Better yet, why don’t you protest to the Republican party, because it’s not coincidence the Peach Tea president is also a Republican state senator. But somehow it’s the AJC columnist’s fault.

You cry constantly about Jim supporting this or that viewpoint, so your incredible hypocrisy is as subtle as Bill Clinton sidling up to an intern.

If you want your Tea Party, go take it back from the wingnuts, stop blaming everyone but your lazy self.

Harry Paulms

April 9th, 2012
2:47 pm

Centrist

Then why the misnomer Tea PARTY? Why not Tea ORGANIZATION? Or Tea ADVISORY GROUP? Or more to the point, why not the ANTI-RINOs?

As a grass roots non-centralized organization, they are nothing more than a voting bloc; a consortium of citizen lobbyists. I applaud their existence and their zeal. I decry the nomenclature.

shoshanna

April 9th, 2012
2:54 pm

It is interesting. you mention Cherokee Rep Party—last I looked—it was the social conservatives who hold the control. NOT the Teaparty. In fact they have held control since 1994 and beat back Jenny Beth Martin’s attempts to wrest it away. She got frustrated with social conservatism in Cherokee and started the Tea Party Patriots. (TPP) TPP has yet to win control of the party in Cherokee so much for grassroot activism.

You are all just a bunch of moderate Republicans that are loud, shallow and ineffectual when it comes to what is actually driving local involvement.

td

April 9th, 2012
2:58 pm

Everyone is the same. Political parties are cover ups. We all want an equal voice in society. We all want peace. We all want to rest assured that governments and the majority of constituents are not doing bad things behind our backs. We must spread decision making power to include EVERYONE! Nobody said anything about spreading the wealth! Laws, however, must be in the hands of the people!

Tom

April 9th, 2012
3:07 pm

I think the point is…..why pretend to be something you’re not, if what you “are” is enough?

Most of the pointy-headed moonbats in this “TEA” group are the same ones who spent much of the 2011 session lobbying against Sunday Sales. Oh yeah, that was quite the stand for liberty, huh?

I’m guessing quite the deal was made over that, too, in lobbying for McKillip’s bill this session. “Hey, you owe us one after siding with liberty and smaller government and agin the Baby Jesus last year in allowing the Demon Gin to soil the Christian Sabbath!”

Aaron Burr V Mexico

April 9th, 2012
3:13 pm

Erm…sorry but even regular ‘Tea Party’ organizations are socially conservative.

Wanting to cut food stamps, medicare, medicaide etc for tax cuts for the rich is socially conservative. It is just a different kind of social conservative.

The Ryan budget is socially conservative. Privatizing medicare is socially conservative. Privatizing education is socially conservative.

There is nothing more socially conservative than saying that the Rich should rule by fiat. “Small government/Taxed Enough Already” MEANS “I’m rich, and I wanna spend my money like I want.”

Its only Class Warfare when the poor don’t fight back.

td

April 9th, 2012
3:18 pm

Conservatism is a good thing Aaron Burr. What we have now in Georgia’s general assembly is not fiscal conservatism. It is bad, bad, bad behavior. Politics has changed. Tis time to restore the Democratic Party of Georgia so that Georgia can flourish again!!!!!!!!

Centrist

April 9th, 2012
3:18 pm

Harry Paulms posted “Then why the misnomer Tea PARTY? Why not Tea ORGANIZATION? Or Tea ADVISORY GROUP? Or more to the point, why not the ANTI-RINOs?”

The name is a takeoff on the original Boston Tea Party, not a political party. And they are not anti-RINO. That is what the Peach Tea Party is because of social issues.

As a grass roots non-centralized organization, they are nothing more than a voting bloc; a consortium of citizen lobbyists. I applaud their existence and their zeal. I decry the nomenclature.

Harry Paulms

April 9th, 2012
3:34 pm

Centrist, political organizations are not constructs culled from some sort of ideological fantasy. They are exactly what they are; what they represent themselves to be in practice and not just in theory. At this point, you have attempted to misdirect relative to their name, to their actual purpose, and to their intended effects. Your Ten Commandments is an interesting yet fatally flawed creed, a Slash and Cut Manifesto with a few feel-good tenets thrown in to make you think the Tea Party is somehow linked to a Constitutional rebirth, which it assuredly is not.

Aaron Burr V Mexico

April 9th, 2012
3:38 pm

@TD2 – Conservatism is a good thing. REAL compassionate conservatism is a good thing. What we have in almost any conservative ideology, organization or party that I can see, libertarian or Republican, is just a total lack of empathy.

And really, Not Centrist has a point…is it REALLY that hard to get your own ID?

Wallis T. Coper

April 9th, 2012
3:52 pm

thank good lord for the tea party, sense oboma just wonts to ruin this contry, an he done a good job of that, i wonted newt, but rommey is better then oboma who is the werst presidant sense clenton.

JF McNamara

April 9th, 2012
3:55 pm

You can be fiscally conservative without being socially conservative. I have no idea why those two very different things are always forced together. PEACH TEA should have chosen a different name. It only harms the original Tea Party.

Georgia, The "New Mississippi"

April 9th, 2012
3:56 pm

“When ignorance gets started it knows no bounds”. Will Rogers

Centrist

April 9th, 2012
3:57 pm

Harry Paulms posted “At this point, you have attempted to misdirect relative to their name, to their actual purpose, and to their intended effects. Your Ten Commandments is an interesting yet fatally flawed creed.”

I have done no such thing. I simply went to their website which I also posted. It is THEIR 10 core beliefs I posted – not mine, although I am a subscriber. I also copied and pasted from their FAQ how they describe themselves not being a political party and a grass roots organization You can read more here, if you have such interest: http://www.what-is-the-tea-party.com/

If you object to their beliefs, structure, name, etc., suggest you take it up with them instead of telling me that I “attempted to misdirect relative to their name, to their actual purpose, and to their intended effects”.

MC

April 9th, 2012
4:00 pm

Stumbled on a Cobb County Tea Party meeting in a park several years ago and all I saw was a bunch of boneheads walking around wearing sidearms and a bus from Mulligan’s Pub full of white trash bigots. The 10 core beliefs lasted about 15 seconds and then it turned into a full fledged railing about immigration.

Wallis T. Coper

April 9th, 2012
4:00 pm

what is ingorant is oboma an his wellfare people redistibing the welth an his librel puppits

Wallis T. Coper

April 9th, 2012
4:04 pm

mc you should carry you one too or you well end up shot by some oboma wellfare thug with gole teeth an big weels on his car

Marlboro Man

April 9th, 2012
4:04 pm

They are mearly right wing neo cons scared to go out on their on, complaining about taxes when they haven’t been so low in years.

Wallis T. Coper

April 9th, 2012
4:06 pm

an waring there pants down off there behines like oboma

Wallis T. Coper

April 9th, 2012
4:08 pm

i here the presidants limo well have new 26 inch shiny weels put on it this week

Wallis T. Coper

April 9th, 2012
4:11 pm

i am 68, an i never saw a crazy presidant, like this one in all my life

td

April 9th, 2012
4:11 pm

MC

April 9th, 2012
4:00 pm

I am calling BULL on your comment. I have been to several Tea Party meetings in Cobb county in the past couple years and I have yet to see one of them carrying. I was the only one with a weapon and I do not belong to the group.

Centrist

April 9th, 2012
4:13 pm

Marlboro Man posted “They are mearly right wing neo cons complaining about taxes when they haven’t been so low in years.”

Seems their complaining (protesting) and voting worked. Obama ran on raising taxes back to the 90’s level. His own Democratic Congress did not do so. The TEA Party ramped up and replaced the Democratic House with enough TEA party Republicans to stop any more talk of tax increases. The TEA party has since been pretty quiet on that issue, but spending, observing the Constitution, and the ever growing size of government will certainly be campaign issues heard loudly after Labor Day.

Aaron Burr V Mexico

April 9th, 2012
4:30 pm

@Not Centrist – They’ve been also trying to destroy the parts of the federal government that restrains corporations from making us slaves, pass anti abortion legislation, prevent any spending at all including that for infrastructure which Lincoln, TR and other great Republican Presidents approved of, and basically just gum up the works so that nothing would happen, so the economy would fail and Obama would look bad.

That’s not a small government agenda, that’s a neoconfederate agenda.

honested

April 9th, 2012
4:30 pm

I just hope that in November, Georgia Voters remember that for all their bluster, the tea potties have shown they can’t run a one car funeral.

Government service requires at least minimal understanding of government function.

honested

April 9th, 2012
4:31 pm

Aaron Burr….

That would be a good poll question for a tea pottie meeting “How many have a collection of confederate memorabilia”?

Harry Paulms

April 9th, 2012
4:39 pm

Centrist

Quite true. The Ten Commandments as written are not your personal work product. I spoke out of turn.

Not a subscriber to any manifestation of the tea party, for the very reasons we see above. Ideology is always susceptible to hijack by misdirected zealots. The evangelicals and their abomination of Christianity is an excellent case in point.

Aaron Burr V Mexico

April 9th, 2012
4:40 pm

Better litmus test. “Do you think the media coverage on Zimmerman is overhyped.”

They have lost ANY FIG LEAF they EVER had about saying, “We’re not racist” after the stuff I’ve seen on this story.

booper

April 9th, 2012
4:43 pm

I’m fine with the tea-peeps manifesto. However, I don’t believe they believe it. Where were they when GW was flushing the Country down the commode.?

Aaron Burr V Mexico

April 9th, 2012
4:45 pm

There is not THAT much diff between what Bush did and what Obama is doing, except Obama is not QUITE as psychotically pro corporation and about 30% of his appointments are not corporate Dem.

Astroturfing by the Koch brothers aside, the real difference is that one is black and the other is white.

td

April 9th, 2012
5:10 pm

GaBlue

April 9th, 2012
2:16 pm

Let us see now, on one hand we have Dan Becker and his socially conservative group that wants to end abortions and they are the most evil people in the world and on the other hand we have Obama and Clinton going to give $1 billion dollars to the Muslim Brotherhood to come to power and all they want to do is make it where women can be stoned to death for having intercourse outside of marriage and husbands can legally beat their wives for looking at another man or back talking them.

Sounds a little contrived outrage to me. You lib women are such hypocrites.

booper

April 9th, 2012
5:26 pm

td is arse-backwards

Aaron Burr V Mexico

April 9th, 2012
5:26 pm

That $1 billion is a Bribe For Israeli Security. I’m all for not giving it to the “Muslim Brotherhood”.

And a republican talking about hypocrisy when they are the living embodiments thereof is HILARIOUS. :)

td

April 9th, 2012
5:34 pm

Aaron Burr V Mexico

April 9th, 2012
5:26 pm

I do not think it is a bribe unless the money is going to the military leaders to keep the Muslim brotherhood in line and I have not read that any where.

td

April 9th, 2012
5:35 pm

booper

April 9th, 2012
5:26 pm

Hurts when you get called out and can not come back with an intelligent statement does it not?

GaBlue

April 9th, 2012
6:18 pm

td: “You lib women are such hypocrites.”

DANG, td! The ones you were SURE would come through (based on your shallow perceptions and prejudices) shot you down too, I see. Bless your heart. See, we “lib women” are not at all what you troglodytes wish we were. So sorry to disappoint.

Don't You Believe It

April 9th, 2012
6:23 pm

@TD1 – It is. The Military Leaders and the MB are becoming one but the payment will be made to the military leaders, not the government. Though yes, the MB desperately wants their hands on the money….but don’t hold your breath on that.

ld

April 9th, 2012
6:34 pm

If the list by Centrist is correct, then number 8–respect the people–should include women and their ability to make their own choices. This makes GRTL and the Tea Party at odds w/each other.

The evangelicals are anti-individual liberty and pro government into peoples most private lives. This certainly seems at odds w/the supposed “small government” campaigns of the GOP.

If enough of the GOP women are SICK OF RICK (Santorum) and his ilk, then, with a little luck the GOP will splinter and we can end up w/a VIABLE third party in 2016.

I realize the electoral college process and rules put in place by the DNC and RNC to minimize competition are a huge hurdle, but we can still dare to hope.

td

April 9th, 2012
7:34 pm

GaBlue

April 9th, 2012
6:18 pm

td: “You lib women are such hypocrites.”

DANG, td! The ones you were SURE would come through

You have to be kidding. There is no way a lib woman is going to vote for anyone but Obama (sort of like the African American women). It is the suburban married white women with children are the ones that will decide the election. Lib women are already in the bag for Obama.

Real American

April 9th, 2012
8:34 pm

Oh poor td, those “suburban married white women” are going to vote for Obama in droves. There are the ones that are probably like your wife, extremely frustrated in every sense of the word and popping Yasmin by the boatload and also the ones that speak up for themselves and aren’t about to go back to 1810 just because some impotent pale men are so stunted and insecure.

Weetamoe

April 9th, 2012
9:10 pm

James O’Keefe, champion of the truth, strikes again. Take that, Eric Holder!