Republicans in Athens allege threats from Ron Paul supporters

We’d heard that several county GOP conventions earlier this month featured confrontations between establishment and libertarian-minded members.

But it looks like things really got out of hand in Athens. From the Banner-Herald newspaper:

Two local Republican Party leaders filed a police report on Tuesday, telling police that Ron Paul supporters left them harassing, potentially threatening messages after a contentious meeting on March 10, according to an Athens-Clarke police report.

Several rowdy Paul supporters attended the meeting, pushing video cameras into people’s faces and taping the confrontation, they said. The group posted the videos on YouTube with the local party leaders’ names, addresses, phone numbers and email addresses.

The party members — a 28-year-old man and a 66-year-old man — turned over emails and Internet postings that included statements that the men should be shot, killed and have their houses burned down.

The GOP officials who made the complaint aren’t named by the newspaper.

If past is prelude, it looks like the state GOP convention in May – the locale is Columbus — will be more than exciting. Here’s a YouTube video of the meeting in question, in which Paulistas illustrate their side of the story:

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In the Capitol, state Rep. Ron Stephens, R-Savannah, is making changes to a bill that would bring lottery video games, in an attempt to find the point at which Gov. Nathan Deal would drop his objections. From Larry Peterson and the Savannah Morning News:

His first gambit was to let the state allow lottery video games in communities where governing bodies seek them. Stephens hoped to appeal to Deal’s strong support for local control.

The governor didn’t budge.

The new wrinkle: In areas that had video lottery, lottery ticket sales at convenience stores and other outlets would end.

Instead of such enterprises picking up a piece of the action, a cut would go to municipalities or counties.

Stephens said the change is tailored to convince Deal it wouldn’t increase gambling action.

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If you see members of the anti-tax group Americans for Prosperity on an interstate overpass on Monday, do not assume they’re suicidal. From a Facebook page posting:

The Supreme Court hears arguments on ObamaCare March 26-28 in Washington DC. Help remind Georgians how unpopular and dangerous this legislation is! Make signs and organize a group of persons in your area to stand at busy intersections and overpasses on March 26, 27 or 28th from 5-7pm during afternoon rush hour that encourage commuters to “honk against Obamacare”….

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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69 comments Add your comment

jd

March 22nd, 2012
10:24 am

It’s against the law to be suicidal in this state! But, don’t let that stop you from making a choice to oppose legislation that improves the likelihood you will get care (and not be denied care by a faceless insurance company bureaucrat!).

Course, if you campaign against laws providing access to health care, are you making a suicidal decision?

Freedom Lover

March 22nd, 2012
10:31 am

I know there is video of this all over the internet. It looks to me the Ron Paul people got the shaft. This happen four years ago. I know Douglas county would not seat the Ron Paul people for years ago.
Also I do not know why the Ron paul people keep playing withe the GOP. They hate you guys. Go where you are loved http://www.lpgeorgia.com

Michael #1

March 22nd, 2012
10:33 am

Looks like a Senior Center.

Clarence Oddbody

March 22nd, 2012
10:37 am

“It’s against the law to be suicidal in this state!”

It’s against the law where I come from too.

marco

March 22nd, 2012
10:42 am

@Freedom Lover
How can you have a name like that when the only guy in the GOP race is trying to warn bone heads like yourself.. that your Freedom is erdoing right in your face

NDAA,ACTA,Trepass bill,Patriot ACT

James

March 22nd, 2012
10:49 am

“Ron Paul supporters disrupt regular party practices of ignoring them while attempting to video tape them ignoring them.” The GOP is out of control. Just a bunch of old folks who appear to want to go extinct by rejecting young supporters

SAWB

March 22nd, 2012
10:54 am

Welcome to the Republican Party boys and girls. That’s the one where the adults are in charge.

Nunya Biznezz

March 22nd, 2012
10:54 am

marco lpgeorga is the Libertarian Party of Georgia. Libertarians and Ron Paul Republicans agree on about 98%. Freedom Lover is suggesting you dump the GOP and join the Libertarians. You can also stick with the GOP and try get them back on track. Either way keep fighting for a Constitutional government…

Freedom Lover

March 22nd, 2012
10:55 am

Marco you are an idoit . I love Ron Paul he is just in the wrong party.He has ran before as a Libertarian. In the Libertarian party we get it . In the GOP you have a faction that gets it (and they are a great group of guys that do get it ) but that ARE not welcome in thier own party.

DannyX

March 22nd, 2012
10:55 am

Georgia Republicans really love their Soviet style communist one party rule. Don’t mess with the Republican politburo.

Gigione

March 22nd, 2012
10:58 am

An Open Letter to My Fellow Republicans
You short-sighted fools. For generations, we have been at odds with
the Democrats on fundamental principals of governance. At the most
basic level, the best way to get Republican ideals enacted is to get
Republicans elected to office. And since majority rules in our
Republic, the best way to get Republicans elected is to have more people
vote for Republicans than for Democrats. While this may seem
elementary, it bears reiteration because you have clearly forgotten
these fundamental facts. For decades now, Republicans have
whined that college campuses are liberal breeding grounds, and
complained that young people swarm to the Democrats. By and large, the
Republican base is old, and there is legitimate concern that the
Republican Party needs to win over the next generation. So,
along comes a candidate who captures the hearts and minds of that exact
demographic. College students, high schoolers, twenty-somethings,
thirty-somethings, by the MILLIONS, are rallying around him. Not only
are they young, but they are young AND POLITICALLY ACTIVE. These people
donate their hard-earned money, repeatedly, to his campaign. They make
signs and wave them on street corners, they dominate the social media
on the internet, they discuss political issues with their friends and
family members. They get directly involved in the political process by
registering as Republicans, attending local Republican meetings, seeking
positions within the party, attending caucuses, and VOTING. These are
exactly the people we Republicans have been complaining about trying to
recruit, and this candidate has effectively stolen them from the
liberal Democrats and caused a multi-million person defection to the
Republican party! I speak, of course, of Ron Paul, and the fact that
you knew who I was referring to before I mentioned his name is further
evidence of the truth these statements. It’s the biggest political coup
of the last thirty years, and we as Republicans, must capitalize on
this opportunity. So how do we Republicans treat these newest
members of the fold? We lie to them. We cheat them. We marginalize
them. We blatantly disenfranchise them at our own caucuses! The
message we are sending to them is, “The Republicans will screw you over,
so go be a Democrat.” This shameful atrocity must be rectified
immediately. Like our symbol, the elephant, these people will not
forget. We have acted like jackasses, and we all know who’s symbol that
is. The caucus process MUST be maintained in an honest and upright
fashion. We may support other candidates, but we MUST play by the
rules. To do otherwise is to squander the greatest political
opportunity of the last thirty years. And worse, to do otherwise is to dishonor ourselves and our Party.

Roach

March 22nd, 2012
11:00 am

Oh the irony. They turn their own bullying tactics back on themselves, and now it’s time to call the law. “It’s just not fair! They made me feel uncomfortable! They called me names!” Shocking that someone would behave that way just over a difference in political views.

Emile

March 22nd, 2012
11:06 am

College students refuse to be duped by the system the majority of the older folks have allowed themselves to be part of. When they watch Corporate Media like CNN, FOX, CNBC, ABC, CBS, they look at it with scrutiny, mainly because they are corporate too. Always becareful of who the establishment media likes because they have a duty to their corporate backers, who are the same backers who back the politicians like Goldman Sachs and the rest of the evil banking cartel. Wise up vetran TV watchers!

guestell

March 22nd, 2012
11:07 am

The GOP / Republican Party: divided and soon to be conquered. Ron Paul 2012.

E-Roll

March 22nd, 2012
11:09 am

WOW, take about dirty politics! It is hard to imagine that these party “officials” would just disregard their own rules while being video taped and not have a worry in the world.

Becky

March 22nd, 2012
11:11 am

Georgia will have video lottery games just as soon as Deal figures out a way to make money off them or the bribe is big enough.

liberty

March 22nd, 2012
11:15 am

I’m one of those young votes who registered as a republican just so I could vote for Ron Paul. Ron Paul 2012 and liberty for life!!

carlosgvv

March 22nd, 2012
11:29 am

Ron Paul supporters actually made threats? All two of them?

Liberty or Death

March 22nd, 2012
11:30 am

Jim I hope youre smart enough to realize that the only people being threatened are the Ron Paul supporters who were the clear plurality yet they were talked over and ignored in the process.
their voice was not heard.
this is a threat to liberty

Vladofbanbury

March 22nd, 2012
11:30 am

This seems similar to the 1860s..

Buckhead Boy

March 22nd, 2012
11:32 am

Looks like its time for the Neo-Republicans to be thinking about devising some delegate suppression techniques along the lines of their voter suppression effort.

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honested

March 22nd, 2012
11:42 am

We can only hope the Supreme Court follows precedent and upholds the Affordable Care Act.

Then we can only hope the supporters of Americans for prosperity (through eternal serfdom of everyone else) will move to another country and bother somebody else!

James Orleans

March 22nd, 2012
11:47 am

Judging from the video, the GOP broke its own rules and disenfranchised its own members. It just goes to show you that democracy is not alive in well in America.

By the way, the author should try to stay away from apparent pejoratives like “Paulistas” lest we all think he’s biased.

Chris Sanger

March 22nd, 2012
11:57 am

It is amazing these threats arise so late AFTER the caucus was illegally shanghaied by the organizers against the rules. And after this surely embarrassing news report on how the caucus was run: http://t.co/eQofBuZp

Pam

March 22nd, 2012
11:58 am

Really? Em a old fart toot’n for Dr Paul 2012, After the Mo & Ga delegate saga, The upcoming states for county delegate votes, Needs to Get REAL!!! Demographics of Dr Paul’s grassroots are not only young, their also middle-age and seniors, their mostly informed and educated! Its all about Roberts Rule of Order & county rules, the gest, good ole boys taking orders from higher ups. There has been nothing violent about these caucus’, as these educated supporters are going by the rules, and to be ignored, the chairpersons should be called out on this or even jailed for being defiant. My hats off to the individuals collecting delegates for Dr Paul.

Spencer

March 22nd, 2012
12:00 pm

The ones who should be arrested are the individuals who committed voter fraud and violated GOP ruled, robbers rules of order and that standard practice of how to operate a meeting. Seems like there’s more than enough evidence on this video to prove that the Paul supporters were in the right.

Jon

March 22nd, 2012
12:19 pm

These people need to be threatened!

Question Man

March 22nd, 2012
12:23 pm

Is it too late in the Georgia legislative session to do something about Republican-on-Republican violence?

Aaron Burr V Mexico

March 22nd, 2012
12:28 pm

I don’t agree with Ron Paul, but I greatly respect his ethics and the efforts of his followers to attempt to enact what they view as the lawful law of the land and follow the rules to do it.

Aaron Burr V Mexico

March 22nd, 2012
12:30 pm

And if this doesn’t prove this truly is the most corrupt state in the union…I don’t know what does.

TommyO

March 22nd, 2012
12:34 pm

This is just the start of it! Hard evidence from across the nation demonstrates that the RNC /GOP is committing voter fraud against Ron Paul! The GOP establishment are progressives who call themselves “conservatives” – in other words “neocons”! They will demand that support for progressive candidates just like they did in 2008 with McCain and THEY WILL LOSE JUST LIKE IN 2008!

When that happens the Republican Party will implode! There will be nothing they can do to save themselves because it will be evident the GOP leadership forced a LOSER on the party!

Ron Paul will continue to poll excellent against Obama – gaining independent; disenchanted democrats and old time Goldwater conservatives but the GOP will cheat him out of his shot!

BE PREPARED FOR A HUGE BACKLASH! They frustration and loathing from grassroots republicans; independents and others won’t be focused on the winner Obama – it will be focused on the RNC / GOP! They are going down and all the cheaters that helped get Obama elected by throwing the primaries against Ron Paul.

GOP establishment – get prepared cause your going down!

pirate4paul

March 22nd, 2012
12:37 pm

i dont think there would be a problem for this one reason:

We hold these truths to be self-evident. That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.”
— Excerpted from the Declaration of Independence of the original thirteen united states of America, July 4, 1776

UGA 1999

March 22nd, 2012
12:38 pm

The ugly side of politics that I cannot stand.

Pam

March 22nd, 2012
12:43 pm

Question Man
12:23 pm

Is it too late in the Georgia legislative session to do something about Republican-on-Republican violence?

go here for your question/s:
http://www.dailypaul.com/222348/newsflash-from-st-charles-santorums-campaign-team-secretly-drafts-letter-to-mo-gop

UGA 1999

March 22nd, 2012
12:45 pm

Can someone please tell me why you would vote for Obama. Other than he is black or a democrat.

ByteMe

March 22nd, 2012
12:52 pm

Other than he is black or a democrat.

How about “Because he’s not a resident of Rightwingnutistan”? Will that work for you?

UGA 1999

March 22nd, 2012
12:57 pm

ByteMe…So he is a member of Leftwingnutistan…..Your point?

Ben

March 22nd, 2012
1:03 pm

@ByteMe and @UGA 1999 – Both locales are subdivisions of “Nutistan”. That’s the problem – they gloss themselves up to look different and then do exactly the same things.

UGA 1999

March 22nd, 2012
1:08 pm

Ben, good point.

ByteMe

March 22nd, 2012
1:41 pm

Only in Rightwingnutistan is Obama a Leftwingnut. Zooks and Yooks, if you remember the story.

UGA 1999

March 22nd, 2012
1:43 pm

ByteMe…..Really? I guess you like having 9% unemployment. $4 gas and $15Trillion in debt. My bad.

Timothy

March 22nd, 2012
1:45 pm

Good for the Ron Paul Supporters. Sorry they had to make you cry. Maybe they would be nicer if you were not so corrupt.

Robert Fallin

March 22nd, 2012
1:46 pm

Given the deplorable, dishonest behavior by those claiming they have been threatened, they better provide some hard evidence to back up their claims, because you certainly can’t believe a word they say.

Aaron Burr V Mexico

March 22nd, 2012
1:51 pm

Leftwingnutistan exists, but is considerably smaller than Rightwingnutistan. There is also this thing called “Normal” which consists of a wide range of folks from Reagan Democrats, Corporatists, True Moderates, True independents, Moderate Progressives etc.

Obama is definitely a ‘centrist’ despite the efforts of the Koch machine to paint him otherwise. There are many reasons NOT to vote for Obama, including his attitudes towards our constitutional rights via the DHS, SOPA etc, but ‘leftwingistan’ is not one of them.

And Leftwingistan does have the advantage of not being AGW deniers. Having the right oppose science (oh I’m sorry ‘Science they don’t like” which given their attacks by association means attacks on Science) gives the left a considerable tactical advantage with most Centrists, who also believe in science, especially in non US countries.

UGA 1999: 8.3 and falling.Caused by Bush. Fox news said Bush can’t effect the Gas prices, so if you say, ‘there you go blaming Bush again’ by blaming Obama for gas you defacto make Bush an issue, and as far as the debt, worse under Bush and needed because of the wall street crash.

And yes, Wall street does own both parties, but they’re giving more money to the republicans now, which makes the Wall Street Deficit more the Republican’s fault.

Gino

March 22nd, 2012
1:52 pm

The GOP crime bosses are at a total loss on how their going to maintain power.

UGA 1999

March 22nd, 2012
1:54 pm

Gino….That is funny being that Obama and half of his goons are from Chicago. One of the most corrupt cities in America. HAHA.

rogeroger

March 22nd, 2012
2:06 pm

Dr. Paul has already diagnosed blowback as the result of our intervention militarily overseas. Next he will be tasked with revealing the effects of political blowback.
So tell me, Dr, how much time do you think we have?

UGA 1999

March 22nd, 2012
2:16 pm

Puck….what are you so afraid of. Ron is not going to win the nomination.

Alex

March 22nd, 2012
2:20 pm

Must be so “threatening” to be asked to operate a party meeting in a legal way that does not silence people.