Opponents bring war against Rush Limbaugh to Georgia
On one hand, comic Bill Maher has an op-ed in today’s New York Times calling for an end to the clichéd cycle of insult and apology:
Let’s have an amnesty — from the left and the right — on every made-up, fake, totally insincere, playacted hurt, insult, slight and affront. Let’s make this Sunday the National Day of No Outrage. One day a year when you will not find some tiny thing someone did or said and pretend you can barely continue functioning until they apologize.
On the other, Rush Limbaugh’s critics have stepped up their war on his radio program. Note that Macon is a targeted city. From the Associated Press:
NEW YORK — Rush Limbaugh’s opponents are starting a radio campaign against him Thursday, seizing upon the radio star’s attack of a Georgetown law student as a “slut” to make a long-term effort aimed at weakening his business.
The liberal Media Matters for America is using a past campaign against Glenn Beck as a template. In Limbaugh, however, they’re going after bigger game. He’s already fighting back and the group’s stance has provoked concerns that an effort to silence someone for objectionable talk is in itself objectionable.
Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh. AP/Chris Carlson
Media Matters is spending at least $100,000 for two advertisements that will run in eight cities.
The ads use Limbaugh’s own words about student Sandra Fluke, who testified at a congressional hearing that contraception should be paid for in health plans. Limbaugh, on his radio programs, suggested Fluke wanted to be paid to have sex, which made her a “slut” and a “prostitute.” In return for the money, he said Fluke should post videos of herself having sex. Under sharp criticism, Limbaugh later apologized.
In one of the anti-Limbaugh ads, listeners are urged to call the local station that carries Limbaugh to say “we don’t talk to women like that” in our city.
Ad time was purchased in Boston; Chicago; Detroit; Seattle; Milwaukee; St. Louis; Macon, Ga.; and Cedar Rapids, Iowa. The cities were selected to support active local campaigns against Limbaugh or because of perceptions Limbaugh may be vulnerable in that market, said Angelo Carusone of Media Matters.
“What we’re really looking for is a way to demonstrate the persistence of the effort and the fact that it is on a wide scale,” Carusone said.
A spokeswoman for Premiere Radio Networks, which syndicates Limbaugh’s show to more than 600 radio stations nationally, said Media Matters has gone beyond criticism of Limbaugh’s words to an attempt to silence him and intimidate advertisers.
“This is not about women,” said Rachel Nelson, Premiere spokeswoman. “It’s not about ethics and it’s not about the nature of our public discourse. It’s a direct attack on America’s guaranteed First Amendment right to free speech. It’s essentially a call for censorship masquerading as high-minded indignation.”
Limbaugh, on his radio show Wednesday, said he’s being targeted in an attack that was long-planned — not mentioning it was his words that lit the fuse.
“They’re not even really offended by what happened,” he said. “This is just an opportunity to execute a plan they’ve had in their drawer since 2009.”
Determining how much of a financial impact the Fluke comments have already had on Limbaugh is murky business.
Radio stations in Hawaii and Massachusetts have dropped his show. Media Matters claims that 58 companies have specifically asked that their ads be excluded from Limbaugh’s show. Radio-Info.com’s TRI Newsletter said Premiere has circulated a list of 98 advertisers who want to avoid “environments likely to stir negative sentiments,” essentially all politically pointed talk shows.
There’s more. TRI also said a group with several stations that air Limbaugh sent out a list of 31 advertisers who don’t want to be on Limbaugh’s show.
Premiere notes that a list is sent out four times a year reminding stations of advertisers who don’t want to be part of controversial programming, and suggests a reported exodus is exaggerated. The company offered no list of its own, or a comparison that could show advertisers resistant to Limbaugh or other controversial shows that predated the Fluke comments.
Some companies said not to want to advertise within Limbaugh’s program — JC Penney, NAPA Auto Parts, Chapstick, Gold Bond, Green Mountain Coffee — did not respond to requests to clarify their policies. One company listed, NBC-TV, said the network was unaware of any policy or past efforts to advertise with Limbaugh.
Valerie Geller, a veteran radio consultant who worked at Limbaugh’s WABC flagship in New York, said it appears that advertising money coming into Limbaugh’s show is slowing down. “I think it’s a very big wakeup call,” she said.
Whether the advertisers return is another question. Limbaugh has a daily audience estimated at between 2 million and 3 million people, according to Talkers magazine.
“I suspect some people will permanently stay away,” said Tom Taylor, executive editor at Radio-Info.com. “I suspect some people will drift back to Rush. What you won’t see is a press release of someone saying, ‘Hey, we’re back with Rush!’”
While a law student, Carusone was active in a campaign to reach Beck’s advertiser that began after the commentator said in July 2009 that President Barack Obama had “a deep-seated hatred for white people.” Eventually, more than 400 advertisers said they didn’t want to be part of Beck’s show and, for Fox, the ad revenue was nowhere near what would be expected for a TV show as popular as Beck’s. When Beck left Fox in June 2011 to take his show to the Web, the parting was mutual.
The idea with Limbaugh is similar: take advertisers away so rates go down, Carusone said. Couple that with the need to keep track of ever-changing lists of who will advertise with Limbaugh and who won’t, and Media Matters hopes that station managers, market by market, may someday conclude that it’s just not worth the trouble.
Conveniently, many stations will soon have a choice. Former GOP presidential candidate Mike Huckabee is launching his own syndicated radio show in April that will air at the same time as Limbaugh’s, and Huckabee’s backers are touting the show as a more civilized alternative.
Beyond the First Amendment concerns, industry experts like Talkers magazine publisher Michael Harrision are concerned that Media Matters’ effort will simpy take some advertisers out of radio altogether when they have different options.
Carusone said Limbaugh has a chilling effect of his own. “There are plenty of people who self-censor out of fear that Mr. Limbaugh will smear them,” he said.
The means of protest puts Media Matters and the conservative Media Research Center in the unlikely position of agreeing with each other. Brent Bozell, founder of the conservative media watchdog, said his group also informs advertisers of things it considers objectionable.
“We all have free speech,” Bozell said.
That’s where the agreement stops. Bozell this week called on MSNBC chief Phil Griffin to resign, citing objectionable things said in the past by Ed Schultz and Al Sharpton, both MSNBC show hosts. It’s in part retaliation for attacks on Limbaugh, he said. The Fluke story was covered extensively by MSNBC.
“There’s a great sense of selective outrage that is going on here,” he said.
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On a related note, the AJC’s Politifact Georgia has this look at whether comic Bill Maher measures up as the liberal equivalent of Rush Limbaugh when it comes to attacks on women.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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328 comments Add your comment
Phil mcgroin
March 22nd, 2012
2:33 pm
We might have money to research alt energy and get out of middle east if we drill here. Jus sayin’
Listen up!
March 22nd, 2012
2:36 pm
Mr. McGroin, I will gladly answer that question for you. If you bother to read the transcript from Ms. Fluke, you will see that she never talked reference herself. As I mentioned below and you can easily do a search on this engine called “Google” you will see that her testimoney was a series of stories told to her about different women she met that had medical issues that required birth control as a form of treatment. These women were unaware that birth control is not included as a part of their insurance plan (which by the way is required of all students at the school). The cost of the pills were about $100 a month out of pocket. I believe that to be true because my blood pressure medication out of pocket would be $75 a month. By the way, this young lady was gay, so the whole birth control issue was moot. Because she was no longer able to afford the pills, she developed a tennis ball size cyst on her ovary and it had to be removed. Being a woman, I understand this as a pretty significant issue because if anything happens to her other ovary, you will be forced into early menopause. That opens up a whole other set of issues. Other women she spoke of had similar issues.
Are we clear now?
unbelievable
March 22nd, 2012
2:38 pm
Anyone notice that we call her a slut and immoral for something she didn’t even say, but Rush DID say he wanted porno, and we’re not criticizing his morality???
I guess the knuckle-draggers really do have a constituency. Sad in this day and age.
Phil mcgroin
March 22nd, 2012
2:41 pm
So birth control prevents cyst. She could not spend 75 a month out of pocket. Who is this girl. Why was she not paneled but fluke was? Does she exist?
I have a friend who died of retardation from watching maher. See how easy that was.
Fluke is a good friend to speak for her friend….wherever she is.
Listen up!
March 22nd, 2012
2:42 pm
@Mr. McGroin, I apologize for a few grammatical errors. It’s one of the drawbacks of multitasking!
Phil mcgroin
March 22nd, 2012
2:46 pm
Not worried about spelling. Make that mistake myself
Partisay
March 22nd, 2012
2:48 pm
“Obama has increased our deficit at an alarming rate, underemployment and unemployment are at too high a numbers (especially if unemployment was calculated correctly), billions wasted on alt energy startups for Al Gores pals, Afganistan is a quagmire, energy cost and food cost are moving up faster then raises, housing is in the toilet despite govt “aid”, welfare at an all time high. Millions of US dollars going to pay for gold toilet seats in Saudi palaces, racial divide at a clear high level, GM making crappy volts on taxpayer dime”
So Phil…any of these others you listed “tongue in cheek”? Racial divide at a clear high level? Isn’t it always? Was it lower when Bush was in office? But never mind my questions, please respond to Listen Up!’s 2:36 comment – if you haven’t already – so we can see if you truely understand what the issue was really all about.
Pat McCrotch
March 22nd, 2012
2:50 pm
I agree with Phil
urban redneck
March 22nd, 2012
2:50 pm
he wouldn’t be so grumpy if he was still eating enough oxycontin to kill a large horse……although it’s apparently not quite enough to kill a large horse’s arss.
Aaron Burr V Mexico
March 22nd, 2012
2:51 pm
@Phil – Re: Why she wasn’t there. I dunno. Maybe she died because she didn’t get the treatment she needed?
Re: Drilling here. I actually approve of the idea…along with nuclear power….as long as it isn’t Fracking, isn’t Tar Sands with unsafe pipelines, and isn’t with off shore oil platforms put together by the lowest common denominator. We are going to need oil and need it for a long time, but we don’t have to do it in a moronic fashion.
Phil mcgroin
March 22nd, 2012
2:53 pm
Other then the toilet seats I am speaking in fact based opinions. Is affordable contraception really a big issue. If it does indeed prevent cyst them sign me up. I hear vitamins promote preventive health too. Insurance for vitamins anyone. Also I hear chocolate prevents heart attacks and broccoli prevents cancer. I will call etna immediately.
Aaron Burr V Mexico
March 22nd, 2012
2:55 pm
@Phil – Basic contraception costs $75 a month. Some forms that are needed for advanced medical conditions like Fluke’s friend can be significantly more expensive and require insurance for anyone of a middle class lifestyle.
Which, by the way, college students most certainly are not.
Insurance for preventative care is a good idea.
The science behind birth control preventing some health issues vs chocolate and broccoli is considerably different and a straw man.
Partisay
March 22nd, 2012
2:57 pm
Well…at least Phil’s not talking about rubbers anymore. We’ve accomplished something.
Partisay
March 22nd, 2012
2:58 pm
Everybody – including Phil – have a good afternoon…I’m out of here…
Phil mcgroin
March 22nd, 2012
3:03 pm
Partisan…you too.
Combination birth control pills contain a combination of estrogen and progestin, while the “mini pill” contains only progestin. Both are designed to prevent pregnancy; the “mini pill” is slightly less effective but is tolerated better by some women. The pill is one of the most popular methods of birth control, but is sometimes prescribed to help stabilize irregular menstrual cycles, to lessen menstrual cramps, to decrease the risk of anemia associated with heavy periods, and for other medical reasons.
Typical costs:
For patients not covered by health insurance, birth control pills typically cost $20 to $50 a month.
For patients covered by health insurance, out-of-pocket costs typically consist of a prescription drug copay. Most insurance plans offer the lowest copays on generic medication — usually $5 to $15 — and higher copays of $30 to $40 for non-preferred brands.
Birth control pills, the most commonly covered contraceptive, are covered by more than 80 percent of health insurance plans, according to the Association of Reproductive Health Professionals. And in some states, it’s mandatory; the Kaiser Family Foundation lists 33 states that require coverage of birth control.
What should be included:
The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists offers an overview of how birth control pills work.
Standard combination birth control pills — for example, Yasmin and Ortho Tricyclen are taken on a 28-day cycle.
Extended-cycle pills are designed to be taken continuously for three months; however, many women experience spotting or breakthrough bleeding while taking extended-cycle pills.
There are more than 40 brands of birth control pills available in the United States, each with slightly different doses or forms of hormones. Because women’s bodies can react to even slight changes in formulation, sometimes several brands will have to be tried, with the help of a doctor, to get the fewest negative side effects — such as mood changes or weight gain — or the desired positive side effects — such as better skin and less menstrual cramping.
Birth control pills are 98 to 99 percent effective when taken exactly as directed — at the same time every day without missing a day. Vomiting before the hormones get into your system also can lower effectiveness. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration offers a chart comparing risks and effectiveness rates of various forms of birth control.
Additional costs:
Birth control pills are available only with a prescription; getting one requires visiting a doctor for a pelvic exam and sexually transmitted disease tests. This can cost $35 to $200, or a copay of $10 to $30 for patients covered by health insurance.
Discounts:
Clinics such as those operated by Planned Parenthood offer discounted birth control pills to women who qualify. And most college campus health centers do the same for enrolled students.
In most states, Wal-Mart, Target and Kroger pharmacies offer a limited selection of generic birth control pills for $9 per month.
Shopping for birth control pills:
To get a prescription for birth control pills, make an appointment with your general practitioner, gynecologist or a clinic. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists offers a physician locator by state and Planned Parenthood offers a clinic locator by zip code. Or, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services offers a local clinic locator by city or zip code.
Birth control pills are not recommended for women who have had blood clots, have serious heart or liver disease, have had breast or uterine cancer, or are over 35 and smoke.
According to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, risks include dizziness, nausea, changes in cycle, changes in mood, weight gain, high blood pressure, blood clots, heart attack and stroke.
Listen up!
March 22nd, 2012
3:03 pm
Mr. McGroin, may I call you Phil? Yes, birth control can prevent ovarian cyst. Birth control pills are used as treatment of a host of female problems from endometriosis to acne. I actually had a female issue that my doctor recommended I take the pill for. I opted not and instead chose surgery, which my insurance would have paid for whatever I chose. Ms. Fluke, being a third year law student was at one time president of a reproductive rights group. I’m sure I can find out if this was an already established group or if it grew, like most things, out of an immediate need while she has been at Georgetown. I don’t think it unusual for all subjects to be in attendance because she was the spokesperson. I’m sure they thought her more articulate than they were with explaining their plight. I have had to speak on behalf of others, that doesn’t mean the others don’t exist. By the way, Ms. Fluke wanted to speak on this issue to congress but was refused. Instead, they allowed a group of men, who have never had a reproductive issue in their lives. come in and spreak on the subject.
Phil McGroin
March 22nd, 2012
3:08 pm
Eating prevents starvation…should insurance pay for that. At what point do we take care of ourselves?
Courtney
March 22nd, 2012
3:08 pm
Bill Maher is a small man full of hate.
Phil McGroin
March 22nd, 2012
3:10 pm
20 bucks a month…9 bucks at walmart and we are wasting time onthis. Unreal. And now we use this as a chance to pile on Rush. obama speaks about it and ignores maher and his million donation.
Aaron Burr V Mexico
March 22nd, 2012
3:12 pm
Well, given that a team of very smart doctors on a government panel said, “We think Birth Control should be part of insurance” by the same logic you’d like to apply here, I’d say when a government panel says, “Food should be paid for by insurance.”
If, and when, the majority of scientists and medical doctors say food should be covered by insurance, I will happily join you in shouting them down Phil.
Until then, I’ll side with the scientists and doctors who think that birth control is important enough that it should, in fact, be part of health insurance.
Aaron Burr V Mexico
March 22nd, 2012
3:14 pm
Maher is not the Democratic pope. Democratic leaders are not afraid to criticize Bill Mahar.
Every. Single. Republican. Leader is terrified of Rush.
Comparing the two is silly. Also, quite frankly, comparing what Rush said about calling her a slut and wanting to see her (lesbian) porn video is also silly.
As are most conservative beliefs.
Aaron Burr V Mexico
March 22nd, 2012
3:15 pm
PS… Sarah Palin is exactly what Bill Maher said and I’m not apologizing. Guess that makes me the moral equivalent of him and Limbaugh.
Yet somehow, I don’t feel that way.
Marie
March 22nd, 2012
3:21 pm
Please, people. Can’t we all just get along?
Phil McGroin
March 22nd, 2012
3:22 pm
Wowo Aaron….just wow. Sad for you buddy. Your three above post are really misguided and kind of not progressive.
Phil McGroin
March 22nd, 2012
3:22 pm
I agree. Healthcare and shoes for everyone. And to all a good night! Stay blessed!
Listen up!
March 22nd, 2012
3:25 pm
Phil, most insurance companies already include it in their coverage as preventative care. In order to get the $9 or $20 pill from the neighborhood walmart, you must meet certain qualification. That type of pill would be the mini pill. If you go online you will see a wide variety of birth control pills. Why? Because all pills are not made equal for the purpose needed. Just admit, you want to think this as some sort of conspiracy and no matter what anyone says, you are going to believe that! By the way, chemo and radiation are forms of treatment for cancer, but I imagine you would say pay for it yourself! This stuff may not be important to you, but for the person dealing with it, its the most important thing!
Aaron Burr V Mexico
March 22nd, 2012
3:28 pm
@Phil – I’m only mostly progressive because its the most Not Conservative thing I can be. What I mainly am is pro reality, anti hypocrisy, and pro science. Still, basic progress principles like, “Hey let’s not let people starve to death or bleed to death if we’re rich enough as a society to afford it” are things I approve of.
@Marie – No. We can’t. Not until the Republican Pope has fallen. This is a war of symbols, and Rush is the symbol of all that is dark and wrong with conservatives. Which is a shame, because we need liberals and conservatives to make the country work. But one of our two sides is brain dead and the other has no guts.
But for the record, I am NOT tolerant, nor do I have to be. I don’t need to tolerate stupidity.
Oh and the fact that saying that comparing Rush and Maher is silly makes you ’sad for me’ shows just how lost you really are.
Tata Phil.
Phil McGroin
March 22nd, 2012
3:28 pm
If Chemo cost 20 bucks a monthi would be indifferent to whether insurance pays it or not.
Phil McGroin
March 22nd, 2012
3:29 pm
Wow Aaron is on a jihad!
Phil McGroin
March 22nd, 2012
3:30 pm
Better look out for cars running into Rushs studio….we know who to suspect now.
Listen up!
March 22nd, 2012
3:34 pm
But it doesn’t! So, God forbid, anyone you know needs it, hope and pray that either they are millionaires or they have insurance to help with the cost! By the way, many people pay for insurance their whole life and never get the benefit! Maybe the enemy is the insurance companies! Ever thought about that?
Joe Mama
March 22nd, 2012
3:48 pm
P. McGroin — “If Chemo cost 20 bucks a monthi would be indifferent to whether insurance pays it or not.”
I agree, but it doesn’t. What I was on was closer to $75K a year; possibly even a bit more.
bigdawg
March 22nd, 2012
3:48 pm
Lawdy, save me from the ignorance of the grumpy, white, middle-aged, balding, paunchy Teabots!
“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross!”
– Sinclair Lewis, 1937
Aaron Burr V Mexico
March 22nd, 2012
3:49 pm
@Phil – Spinspinspinspinspinspinspin. Look! Your shoes are untied!
Joe
March 22nd, 2012
3:55 pm
The right moans over this, but they were all about shutting down the Dixie Chicks after they insulted Bush.
Phil McGroin
March 22nd, 2012
3:58 pm
The right is not worried about insults as long as its a fair playing field. When Obama gets on the mic and speaks against Rushs comments that is fine. my issue is he does this while accepting 1 million from Maher who called Palin a c word.
Joe Mama
March 22nd, 2012
4:02 pm
P. McGroin — “my issue is he does this while accepting 1 million from Maher”
I’m pretty sure that million couldn’t have gone directly to President Obama. Maher has to abide by the same campaign contribution limits as anyone else, which, IIRC, are $2000 per Presidential candidate per election cycle.
Maybe someone can find exactly who Maher donated the money to, but I don’t think it was President Obama.
Aaron Burr V Mexico
March 22nd, 2012
4:03 pm
@Phil – Mahar does not equal Rush.
So, oh great issuer of questions challenging the left, answer one yourself.
Justify the moral equivalence of Rush vs Maher.
My argument against:
Point 1: Palin is an elected official. Fluke is not. Even though she is an advocate, until recently she was not a public official. The standard for allowable public insult is different. This is the law of the land as well as cultural norm.
Point 2: Maher used a swear word to say Palin was stupid. It was a rather offensive one. Rush a) Got the facts wrong. b) Called her a slut and basically dehumanized her. c) Went on and on about it for more than an hour. d) Demanded to see a porn video put on by Fluke.
Are you SERIOUSLY going to argue that these two are the same? SERIOUSLY?
Dawg '88
March 22nd, 2012
4:05 pm
Is there a “war” being brought upon Bill Maher? After all he has used equally if not worse language/sexual derogatory comments towards females. Or is there equal outrage over Dave Letterman’s use of disparaging remarks about Gov. Palin’s daugher?
Obama called what happened to Fluke as uncivil comments. He called her to reassure her and support her. Did he call for civility in these other instances? NO! He took $1 million dollars from Maher and refuses to return it. And his wife goes on Letterman and doesn’t admonish him for being uncivil.
Its hypocracy at its worst. What wrong for others is ok if it someone who supports you. The post above here says it a “republican” problem. No it isn’t!
I believe Obamaand his wife, Maher, and Letterman are Dems.
Don’t point fingers….its a a game of immoral hypocritical politics. Period!
Obama would make a much larger gesture showing he truly cares about civility by returning the money to Maher and denouncing him like he did RL.
When will it happen?….NEVER…too many votes and his reelection hinge on the $$$….Sad…Hypocrite!
Lush Rimbaugh
March 22nd, 2012
4:05 pm
She’s a slut! Now, anybody got any good prescriptions for me?
Aaron Burr V Mexico
March 22nd, 2012
4:06 pm
@Dawg – No, he did not.
David Letterman’s attack on Palin’s daughter is closer, but hey, as I recall THERE WAS A WAR AGAINST LETTERMAN WAGED BY THE RIGHT.
Don’t YOU point fingers American Taliban.
Aaron Burr V Mexico
March 22nd, 2012
4:08 pm
To clarify “no he did not.”
Maher is not equal to Rush. That’s stupid. And Conservative reality denial.
Dawg '88
March 22nd, 2012
4:15 pm
Aaron Burr….resulting to call me names shows what character you have.
That weakens your argument….The Taliban kills people. That is disgusting and you owe me an apology. But I know that is the liberal way….Nothing surprising there.
Sad…someday all of this Dem. and Repub. immoral behavior will stop. Lets pray that it does. Its bad on both sides. Maher and Lim. are both on equal footing…their entertainers and they are immorally wrong and unjust in their comments…PERIOD!
Dawg '88
March 22nd, 2012
4:17 pm
Rush is wrong but its ok for Aaron to use nasty terms.
Yeah…that makes sense. Defend that which cannot be defended without looking hypocritcal and foolish is impossible.
Aaron Burr V Mexico
March 22nd, 2012
4:17 pm
@Dawg – You started it. When I encounter a reasonable conservative I talk with them like people.
That isn’t you.
The Republicans are killing people.
Indeed, I will join you in prayer that the diaobolical behavior on both sides will stop.
Maher and Lim are not on equal footing. To say that they are, to use religious terminology (which you initiated) is like saying shoplifting and murder are the same. If you believe that, I feel sorry for you.
Limbaugh is MUCH more than an entertainer to the Republican Church.
Oblama
March 22nd, 2012
4:36 pm
gm – Bill Maher was at a Dem fund raiser last week where he announced on TV that he was giving $1,000,000 to the Oblama campaign and then spewed a long list of curse words and insults at several conservatives addressing them by name. He and Al Frankin are two of a kind. Hateful, garbage mouths that definitely do not fit the definition of comedian. Under occupation they put I D I O T.
Uncle Tom
March 22nd, 2012
4:36 pm
I moved to South Florida about 25 years ago from Atlanta and I was there a couple of years. The first thing I noticed was that all the radio stations were extremist. It was either Fascists on one station or Cuban Communists on the other. “Thank God,” I said, “Atlanta isn’t anything like that!” But nowadays, with people like Limbaugh and Company, we’ve become like the disease that hit South Florida. His kind is the problem and we’re a heck of a lot better without them. I am now so old I remember when WSB radio was respected, mainstream and good for the community. But now the whole country is like South Florida with extremism the norm.
RAMZAD
March 22nd, 2012
4:44 pm
Yes, we should remove Rush from a place where he can spew poison into the public discourse. It would be helpful if he would just drink his poison.
Independent
March 22nd, 2012
4:50 pm
Partisay quoted:
““Obama has increased our deficit at an alarming rate, underemployment and unemployment are at too high a numbers (especially if unemployment was calculated correctly),”
Indie: I’ve heard this from many right-wingers. Fact is unemployment is quoted the exact same was that it was under the Bush admin. And the deficit is as much or more about Congress than it is about the President, left and right. Are you, like Limbaugh, hoping that the President and thus, the country, fails? I think some of you Limbaugh-ditto-heads actually are.
Independent
March 22nd, 2012
4:52 pm
I have to say that anyone still listening to Rush Limbaugh has checked what little brain they have at the door.