Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men

This afternoon, the House Judiciary (Non-Civil) Committee will take up HB 954, a measure that would prohibit abortions on women who are more than 20 weeks pregnant. Current law prohibits abortions after the second trimester, or about 24 weeks.

The bill sponsored by Doug McKillip, R-Athens, asserts that 20 weeks is the point at which a fetus can begin to feel pain. The measure also attempts to tighten “life of the mother” exceptions to abortion:

No such condition shall be deemed to exist if it is based on a diagnosis or claim of a mental or emotional condition of the pregnant woman or that the pregnant woman will purposefully engage in conduct which she intends to result in her death or in substantial and irreversible physical impairment of a major bodily function.

In response, House Democrats have scheduled a 3 p.m. Wednesday hearing at the state Capitol, to propose a bill that would ban Georgia males from seeking vasectomies. From the press release:

“Thousands of children are deprived of birth in this state every year because of the lack of state regulation over vasectomies,” said Rep. Yasmin Neal, author of the bill. “It is patently unfair that men can avoid unwanted fatherhood by presuming that their judgment over such matters is more valid than the judgment of the General Assembly, while women’s ability to decide is constantly up for debate throughout the United States.”

House Minority Leader Stacey Abrams added, “The Republican attack on women’s reproductive rights is unconscionable. What is more deplorable is the hypocrisy of HB 954’s author. If we follow his logic, we believe it is the obligation of this General Assembly to assert an equally invasive state interest in the reproductive habits of men and substitute the will of the government over the will of adult men.”

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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jarvis

February 21st, 2012
12:32 pm

Wouldn’t tubal ligation be the female equivilent to a vasectomy rather than an abortion?
Those are legal aren’t they?

How did Representative Neal do on the “Analogies” section of the SAT? Not well I imagine.

GompHoge

February 21st, 2012
12:33 pm

The real reasons that Republican males and the Catholic church are opposed to abortion are different, but simple and interrelated.
Republican males don’t want to let women have abortions because sex between men and women should be infrequent and solely for purposes of reproduction. Republican males prefer to leave recreational sex for airport bathrooms, taxpayer-funded trysts in sleazy motels, and in perverted BDSM clubs. Of course, it goes without saying that 94.5% (verified) recreational sex in which Republican males engage is with other males: 54% latino, 37% African American, and the remainder white.

The Catholic Church wants to ban abortion because they want more children – preferably male children – to molest. Every abortion stops a beating heart, which could turn into a child, which a Priest could diddle with.

Liberated Libertine

February 21st, 2012
12:35 pm

Hey GOP:

Keep your hands off my vagina, and rest assured I’ll keep my hands off your penis.

GompHoge

February 21st, 2012
12:36 pm

@jarvis – the purpose is not to create a strict, direct analogy. It is to point out the absurdity of allowing religious fundamentalists to legislate all areas of life – particularly absurd when done by the Republican party – the party, allegedly, of “no government intervention.” Amusing. In any case, while you might be correct about your analogy to tubal ligation, it’s not really relevant because men don’t become pregnant, so I’m afraid the vasectomy is as close as you have.

How well did Jarvis do on the “irony and critical thinking” section of the SATs. Not well I imagine. (In fact, I imagine more likely GEDs)

Road Scholar

February 21st, 2012
12:40 pm

And all who have had a vasectomy shall have it reversed!!!!!!!!!!

Dumbass Repubs!

honested

February 21st, 2012
12:40 pm

Is it clear to everyone the kind of nonsense that occurs under the heading ‘legislation’ when you make the mistake of putting the gop in the majority?

Do we really want to waste time and money on bills that will never pass Court muster?

GompHoge

February 21st, 2012
12:41 pm

@Jarvis, cont’d. You ask “Those are legal aren’t they?”

Uh, yes. As are vasectomies. The point is the absurdity of a government BAN. Abotions are legal too. Like vasectomies and tubal ligations, they shouldn’t be banned.

Also, it’s spelled “equivalent.”

Bad Mojo

February 21st, 2012
12:41 pm

Obviously this is intended as an inside joke. Republicans in Georgia are not smart enough to recognize the sarcasm.

Always correct

February 21st, 2012
12:44 pm

Yes, MiltonMan, and instead of Roy, you people gave us a guvner with, ah, a questionble past and a clearly biased agenda. My guess is that by the time he leaves office, he will have “resolved” his personal issues and will leave the state with bigger problems than Sonny left us with. And BTW, King Roy left the state in a good financial condition. But, you folks keep voting RED. And by all means, try to nominate Santoreum for President. or even Newt. i dodged the crash created by Bush and Sonny (made money and went to cash for a few years) and now i’m benefitting from the Obama recovery despite the real Deal Guv, who is crushing the average Georgian.

LydiasDad

February 21st, 2012
12:44 pm

Only idiotic Dems would liken a vasectomy to a 24 week abortion. This is why our country is such a mess right now.

GompHoge

February 21st, 2012
12:44 pm

You better BELIEVE that the GOP would be ALL FOR abortions if men could get pregnant by taking it up the Hershey-Highway from another man in a filthy, sleazy motel. The GOP leadership would have literally thousands of fatherless children if that were the case.

Drewbob

February 21st, 2012
12:45 pm

I love this: Good way to shine light on the absurdity of Republicans’ preoccupation with women’s health and control over their own bodies.

Lydia

February 21st, 2012
12:45 pm

I have already had two abortions and both were after 24 weeks gestation.
Dad!!
Keep your hands out of my underwear!!

Common Sense

February 21st, 2012
12:47 pm

We need a “Mind Your Own Business” law.

Voice of Reason

February 21st, 2012
12:47 pm

Wake up Athens voters….this is how Doug McKillip is representing you under the Gold Dome…he’s a lot more worried about the unborn than the poor kids who are actually walking around the face of the earth needing a decent education!

GT Alum

February 21st, 2012
12:47 pm

I’m generally left-leaning, especially on social issues, but anyone who thinks a vasectomy and an abortion are the same thing is deluding himself or herself.

Boomhauer

February 21st, 2012
12:48 pm

These women need to go to a sex ed class. This proposed bill would make more sense if Republicans were trying to pass a bill saying women could not have their tubes tied. What does not being able to get a vasectomy have to do with abortion?

Warren House

February 21st, 2012
12:48 pm

when will the church and these radical legislators go after condoms… they should be removed from the shelves of all grocery, drug, and other stores that sell them. after all, are these contraceptive devices? why are men not being accused of abortive murders? and murder it is since there is not a week that goes by that during my morning walks I find used condoms disposed on the streets. go after these murderers if you want to level the playing field.

z

February 21st, 2012
12:49 pm

Vasectomy and aborttions are like comparing apples and oranges, another spin by dumb liberal democrats,Lets compare vasectomy to tublaligations and then we are on the same page.. in Ga man nust have his wife sign off on a vasectomy, but a wife does not have to have her husband sign off on a tubaligation… now lets argue that point!

Jim Pierce

February 21st, 2012
12:50 pm

The AJC has turned into a liberal rag. And this is a gathering of the uninformed. A womans rights “over her body” isn’t the question. Getting pregnant in the first place shows you how much control she has “over her body”. lol

jarvis

February 21st, 2012
12:50 pm

Gomp, your assumptions are large and incorrect.

First, you are assuming that I am for the abortion legislation…which I am not. Secondly, you assume that you are more educated than I am, which while possible, is unlikely.

I despise political grandstanding which is exactly what this is. Had this been a Republican wasting time trying in vain to seem clever, I’d have crapped on them just the same.

The easiest job in this state is being a Democratic Representative. Their opinions don’t come with consequences. All they have to do is say the things that please their local constituents to keep getting elected because nothing they ever want actually happens, and they know it. Like the very young and the very elderly, they can say anything becase no one is taking them seriously.

The Great Right Hope

February 21st, 2012
12:52 pm

ED: Viagra is the number one selling drug in the U.S.
Why isn’t the Catholic Church ranting about over-prescription of Viagra?
Imagine all the fornication it leads to!
The state should tax Viagra.
The state should test all men for ED before allowing doctors to prescribe Viagra. Any other basis for prescribing Viagra constitutes malpractice.

I can do you one better there Ed – Before a prescription for Viagara can be filled a man must prove the following things:

(a) That he is in fact a married man.
(b) That the use of the Viagara will ONLY be for reproductive purposes.
(c) That the use of Viagara will only be with his wife and no other woman.
(d) That, if he is not yet married, he is pure and untouched by any woman, (foreign or domestic), and that he will abscond from any sexual relationships until he is married. Also he must be married within ONE MONTH of filling his prescription or….
(e) His azz will be put in jail for wasting sp##erm and a good hard on.

jarvis

February 21st, 2012
12:52 pm

Also, spell checking a blog is the action of a dbag.

George Johnson

February 21st, 2012
12:52 pm

Face it, what we REALLY need, is a law (under penalty of death) that keeps ALL dimocrats out of politics. Let them write poetry, act, sing or what ever, but let the ADULTS run the state/country. Or maybe we could just pass a law (with the same penalty) for lying, and that would clean them out pretty quickly too.
Dimocrats are just too stupid to be in politics, making decisions for others.
Abortion is the sacrament of the radical left wing religion of liberalism.

SouthernGal

February 21st, 2012
12:53 pm

I want the state to pay for abortion, birth control and vasectomies…maybe it will help clean the gene pool!!

John Galt

February 21st, 2012
12:53 pm

If these two (Neal and Abrams) aren’t intelligent enough to know the difference between reproductive cells and conceived life, God help them. This ploy is idiocy.

Scooter

February 21st, 2012
12:53 pm

The Dems seem to be saying that life begins upon ejaculation…?

Delusional

February 21st, 2012
12:55 pm

Only liberals can equate a birth control measure to voluntarily murdering a fetus (child). Abortion is not and should not be used as a method of birth control. It should only be used when the life of the Mother is at risk as detemined by medical professionals. It should also be available to a woman who becomes impregnated as a result of a rape. That’s as complicated as it needs to be. It doesn’t need infinite shades of grey attached to it. Of course that is true of most government programs; too many shades of grey.

WaitAMinute

February 21st, 2012
12:55 pm

While we are at it, I suggest drug testing members of all organizations that do not pay taxes.

John Galt

February 21st, 2012
12:57 pm

There must be fewer than 3 mature comments in this entire blog.

John Adams

February 21st, 2012
12:59 pm

I see the idiots are out today. Drawing this parallel and thinking they have used reason is a sure sign of stupidity and lack of intelligent thinking.

But, then again, isn’t that the definition of a liberal? Tell me again why I should pay for somebody else whoring around?

Lakedawg

February 21st, 2012
12:59 pm

If abortion is solely about WOMEN’s reproductive rights, I suggest we make abortions legal and free to all women who can prove that they conceived without sperm.

Lakedawg

February 21st, 2012
1:00 pm

I must admit that I have a hard time who would share their sperm with some of those NOW nags…..

derwood

February 21st, 2012
1:01 pm

why o why isn’t our elected leaders (????) worried about things like teh price of gas, medicare and medicaid fraud.

Tom

February 21st, 2012
1:01 pm

More “babies” are “killed” via miscarriages and other spontaneous abortions than via all surgical/chemical abortions combined.

Time to ban [insert your mythological deity of choice here].

bot

February 21st, 2012
1:03 pm

That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard…seriously ladies??

abe1

February 21st, 2012
1:03 pm

BIG, BIG, BIG difference between a woman getting her tubes tied and having an abortion.
Isn’t that obvious?

I’m putting together a bill to allow men to demand abortions for women within the first 19 weeks of pregnancy (the no pain period). If we are going to have free wheeling reproductive rights then let’s have them! How dare a women seduce me and then want to have MY baby when I didn’t want to have it.

I know. NONSENSE. And that is the point.

areUserious

February 21st, 2012
1:03 pm

Once again liberals are making themselves the fool. Trying to (even jokingly) ban vasectomies is like them saying that all birth control should be banned (which is what they want, right?). Did you ever stop to think that maybe the issue here isn’t women’s rights, but the right to murder a baby? Women have the right to use birth control or not, to have sex or not, and with whom to engage in these activities. They should not have the right to murder the babies once they make that decision.

MetFan Lou

February 21st, 2012
1:06 pm

Oh my gosh I can see it now, back alley vasectomies in the middle of the night performed by some man hating democrat. OUCH!

WAR EAGLE

February 21st, 2012
1:06 pm

once again a STIUPID democrat. Would she prefer these jungle idiots go out and impregnate every woman so the state can take care of them? keep abortion legal. it is cheaper than supporting unwanted kids who grow up to be thugs any way. these religious people are SICK!

roughrider

February 21st, 2012
1:07 pm

Most of our legislators are men who don’t ever have to face the decision of whether to have an abortion. Instead of putting restrictions on a strictly female procedure ( abortion), they should sit down and shut up.

John K

February 21st, 2012
1:07 pm

Love it! Only problem is the GOP nut jobs will probably be all for this.

Tom

February 21st, 2012
1:09 pm

And why is Virginia (among other states) passing or looking to pass legislation which mandates medical procedures that are not otherwise indicated as medically necessary by the attending physician?

Reads like something that would be in Odummacare to me.

GompHoge

February 21st, 2012
1:11 pm

@ Jarvis: I’m probably more educated than you, but clearly not educated enough to ascertain the actual intent of your post. For that I apologize, but I will say that I don’t think it’s unseemly for legislators to engage in principled absurd conduct to highlight the absurdity of the oppostion – I hope you feel that the republican legislation at the heart of the debate is equally idiotic and deserving of scorn. Since no one listens to reason – or even listens to any news that doesn’t serve as a mindless echo-chamber for their own smallminded views – there’s no sense in critical discussion, because there is none. I think we’re left with this.

As for spellchecking dbaggery – Well put, sir.

WHITEandGOLD

February 21st, 2012
1:11 pm

When are you people going to wake up… Just because they outlaw abortions does not mean that they are not going to happen. So therefore women are subjected to back alley abortions or unclean circumstances that could immediately effect their own health. Same with a vasectomy. They will continue to do them illegally in an unsafe manner. Legalizing these options will just allow the person who is having the procedure to have the peace of mind that it will be done by a professional. It is no ones place to judge the person having this procedure. A real Christian and a real human being would know that. I am at a loss of words by comments regarding this issue, and frankly I am ashamed of humanity an the american people.

td

February 21st, 2012
1:12 pm

These Democraps are disgusting; I can deposit my swimmers wherever or whenever I want, isn’t that right, Troop #7109?

sliderule

February 21st, 2012
1:12 pm

Dear dumbasses,

No, the legislation is not serious.

DJ Sniper

February 21st, 2012
1:12 pm

I see that several people missed the point of this amendment. The point is to show everybody just how ignorant, narrow minded, and completely off the rails the GOP has gone these days.

equality

February 21st, 2012
1:12 pm

Do the same to all politicians…..

drtrump

February 21st, 2012
1:13 pm

Nice one War Eagle. “Jungle idiots”? Aren’t you late for the Klan rally?