Some payback in the Cherokee County charter school fight

Last year, the Cherokee County school board rejected – for a third time – Cherokee Charter Academy. The county’s Republican party called on the four GOP school board members who threw down the no votes to turn in their party IDs. Figuratively, anyway.

The real payback arrived this week. From the Cherokee Tribune:

CANTON — The much anticipated legislation to redraw the Cherokee County Board of Education posts was dropped in the hopper Wednesday by local state representatives and appears to effectively remove the county’s elected school board chair and vice chair from their positions by January 2013.

Under the provisions of House Bill 978, Cherokee County voters will vote by post for six school board members and choose a chair elected county-wide.

At present, the school board has seven representatives elected county-wide and members elect their own chair and vice chair.

School Board Chair Mike Chapman and Vice Chair Janet Read appear to be drawn out of their posts and into posts already held by seated school board members by the new legislation, according to initial analysis of the bill by school officials.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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59 comments Add your comment

xdog

February 17th, 2012
2:13 pm

Get with the goper group-think or go home.

jd

February 17th, 2012
2:14 pm

Those two should run against Rogers and Jerguson –

Road Scholar

February 17th, 2012
2:22 pm

Fair and balanced!

honested

February 17th, 2012
2:23 pm

Wow am I ever surprised….at the board members.

The modern republican party (at least in GA) has no room for dissent or common sense!

GET REAL

February 17th, 2012
2:24 pm

I thought Republicans were such heroes for local control of their schools and communitiies. So the State GOP party has a hissy fit and the local state representative drops a bill to do away with these “renegade” Republican education board members, Aren’t you people in Cherokee County just a little angry over this lack of respect for those of you who voted for these board members? SOLUTION: Get rid of this interfering state representative the next time he runs for re-election.

Will

February 17th, 2012
2:32 pm

The real payback will come when we vote.
Part of that will come when we vote for school board members.
The real test will come when the taxpayers stop SPLOSTS until the educators get the message that we ( parents and taxpayers) want choice or we will begin the process of defunding the present system.

Eli

February 17th, 2012
2:34 pm

Just to throw this out there to remind Cherokee County voters abreast of the financial situation their county is in…you guys are almost broke and can not afford the Cherokee Charter Academy.

See: http://www.cherokeega.com/departments/finance/uploads/File/BUDGET_INFO/2012_BUDGET_BOOK_adopted.pdf

The commission is blaming everything on the recession (which ended a while ago) and is apprehensive to start raising taxes. Lets face it, Cherokee County voters would rather their county go bankrupt than raise taxes.

honested

February 17th, 2012
2:34 pm

will,

Uhhh, splosts are not the funding mechanism for Public Schools, just sayin.

horse

February 17th, 2012
2:40 pm

More from the Cherokee Tribune article:

“Read said she is considering her next move. She said she may run for state House District 20 against incumbent Rep. Charlice Byrd (R-Woodstock) or for Georgia Senate District 21 against incumbent Sen. Chip Rogers (R-Woodstock). She is also considering running for the newly created position of countywide chair.”

We hear that Charlice Byrd (R-20) is toast, persona non grata, and might as well not run. And her website (byrdforhouse.com) seems to have been taken over by someone in China.

In fact, the entire delegation has angered not only a majority of the educators in the county, but virtually all of the PTA members. There have been at least two very tense meetings between various educators/PTA’s and Rogers where he’s been called a liar, con man, etc.

Read more: Cherokee Tribune – Bill to redistrict school board posts submitted

Georgia, The " New Mississippi "

February 17th, 2012
2:47 pm

Wow…. Charter School Jim Crow laws…………and they will still be near the bottom in educational measures

Ed

February 17th, 2012
2:47 pm

From what I’ve heard, a new system which allows me to vote for one board member and the Chairman/woman makes alot of sense to me. I never understood why I voted for all seven members when six of them live in other areas of the county. This should help me to others know which board member to contact if I have an issue with my local school. If they can’t assist me, then I can contact the Chairperson.

Typical

February 17th, 2012
2:49 pm

@honested – why bother?

DannyX

February 17th, 2012
2:51 pm

The abandoned Chip Rogers roach motel would make an excellent charter school.

Ley

February 17th, 2012
2:56 pm

Come on, Read, run against Rogers. That racist, bigoted, anti-public education radical needs to be defeated!

honested

February 17th, 2012
2:57 pm

DannyX,

At least it could make an excellent ‘monument’ for Political Science courses!

horse

February 17th, 2012
3:08 pm

@Will (Rogers), choice of what? Tell me.

td

February 17th, 2012
3:09 pm

honested

February 17th, 2012
2:23 pm

Wow am I ever surprised….at the board members.

The modern republican party (at least in GA) has no room for dissent or common sense!

I am sure you were saying the same thing about Tom Murphy and his tactics when he was speaker. Tell us how much you protested when King Roy attempted his little redistricting escapade to hold onto more Dems when the state clearly turned Republican.

honested

February 17th, 2012
3:13 pm

td,

Democrats have learned from their mistakes.
Republicans were supposed to show GA ‘a new way’ (at least that was the lie in 2003).

So What Happened?

td

February 17th, 2012
3:25 pm

honested

February 17th, 2012
3:13 pm

td,

Democrats have learned from their mistakes.
Republicans were supposed to show GA ‘a new way’ (at least that was the lie in 2003).

So What Happened?

Really? The Obama justice department stamped approved to the 2010 redistricting and did not say one thing was wrong. Is this not the way it should be done?

Fred ™

February 17th, 2012
3:52 pm

Cherokee County School Board, The NEW republican version of Clayton County……..

Dumb and Dumber

February 17th, 2012
4:38 pm

OK, cue the comments that accuse Galloway of being a socialist, liberal-media stooge for publishing something negative about the GOP. C’mon all you fake “moderates” and “centrists”; I’m talking about you.

sheepdawg

February 17th, 2012
4:43 pm

ignorant rednecks

honested

February 17th, 2012
4:51 pm

td,

So where does one get a copy of the ‘Approved Opinions For GA republicans’ handbook?

yuzeyurbrane

February 17th, 2012
5:10 pm

I don’t understand the angst. It is all very simple. Republicans are always for local control except when they are not.

Travis McGee

February 17th, 2012
5:17 pm

There’s nothing worse than aggressive stupidity. Everyone has a right to be stupid but the GOTP is abusing the privilege.

Moon Mullins

February 17th, 2012
5:32 pm

This may be a legal move, but it has chicken manure all over it! I can’t believe the wind won’t blow the stench of this back in their face.

td

February 17th, 2012
5:35 pm

I just learned that the current system for voting is that the members live in 7 different districts but every district representative is voted on countywide. In other words each resident gets 7 votes for their board members. This is the same thing Roy Barnes attempted to do with his multi member US house district in Metro Atlanta after the 2000 census. A Federal court ruled it as unconstitutional.

The proposed legislation sets up 6 districts and only the people that live in those districts vote for their board member and then there is a chairman voted on by the entire county. This is the same system as the vast majority of the other counties in the state and seems to allow more local control.

cartoon

February 17th, 2012
5:59 pm

Jay Bookman is an idiot.

ProgressivePeach

February 17th, 2012
6:39 pm

Time to bring the Democrats out of the wilderness. They can’t f up this state worse than the GOP has for the past decade.

honested

February 17th, 2012
6:52 pm

Progressive….

I’ve been trying to point this out for several months.
Was the ‘big switch’ in 2002 supposed to cause this sort of mess or display this sort of blind incompetence?
Apparently, now any ignoramus idea will pass the House on a party line vote as long as the ignoramus bringing it up has an ‘r’ by their name.

DawgDad

February 17th, 2012
6:59 pm

“The real test will come when the taxpayers stop SPLOSTS until the educators get the message that we ( parents and taxpayers) want choice or we will begin the process of defunding the present system.”

I consider this to be a very naive and selfish position. I am no fan of public schools, but just like HOT lanes were a horrible corruption of a public sector service so is this recent attempt at establishing charter schools. Public services and tax dollars should NOT be doled out to select privileged recipients, which is exactly what would happen under State chartered schools and the inevitable rationing of access. Yours is NOT a “conservative” position, it is a CORRUPTED position. Can I make myself any clearer?

We want school choice, and local control, but the means DOES matter. We are embarking (nationally) on a slippery slope of auctioning off the benefits provided by tax revenues siezed by the Government (Federal or State) at the point of a gun (or threat of incarceration). How is this not tyranny? It starts small.

DawgDad

February 17th, 2012
7:01 pm

And, for the record, I live in Cherokee and I vote.

Bob

February 17th, 2012
7:45 pm

When are these idiots and morons going to get it…it’s not about the parents’ likes/dislikes, but their kid’s education. If I didn’t know better, I’d think this was Fulton or Clayton, not Cherokee County.

Look before I leap...

February 17th, 2012
8:32 pm

@Bob 7:45P

In no way is this kinda crap restricted to Fulton or Clayton counties.
The nastiest politics played in the country is at the school board level.

Attack Dog

February 17th, 2012
8:57 pm

I wonder who was more honest about education and GA taxpayers. King Roy or Kingfish George-Sonny?

Look before I leap...

February 17th, 2012
9:03 pm

@Attack Dog

No question there. Roy Barnes was very committed to education reform.
Unfortunately, the educational system was very resistant to reform.

td

February 17th, 2012
9:16 pm

I think the new state superintendent (Dr. John Barge) is the best chance we have had in a very long time to real reform. He has paid attention to the Gov and the legislature (unlike our previous ones) and are working with them as partners.

td

February 17th, 2012
9:20 pm

Chip Rogers has written and passed legislation that gives John the ability to hire and fire employees without board approval(first time any super has had that ability) and the Governor had 6 members of the BOE resign and filled them with people more in line with his and John’s vision.

Moon Mullins

February 17th, 2012
9:44 pm

Given the circumstance, I’ll never understand how Nathan Deal was elected. But his election causes me to think that Newt will carry the day in Georgia. Newt is no worse than Nathan Deal.

Both are ethically challenged.

However, a person can be elected to anything if he can get all of the fools on his side. . .and that seems to be the new GOPT strategy.

Fish & Chips

February 17th, 2012
10:41 pm

And Chip sends his kids to private schools. So, there’s that.

GET REAL

February 18th, 2012
12:26 am

td What’s Nathan’s education vision and what has he done to make that vision a reality? How about Sonny? What was his vision for education? Neither of these so-called leaders has shown any attempt to really address the major issues facing this state, including education. Sonny’s 8 years were an exercise in him lining his pockets by spending his time in the Governor’s office taking care of his personal business interests. Why has Nathan done nothing about the paralysis at the Dept. of Transportation? Can you explain that? There is no leadership in the state because Republicans have failed to govern. Look at the mess in the State Senate. A sitting Republican Lt. Governor is under attack and has been de-nutted by his Republican “friends.” And Chip Rogers has been right in the middle of that mess. Ronald Reagan must be doing cartwheels in his grave. Leadership, where, pray tell? And by the way. Don’t be so quick to criticize the late-House Speaker Tom Murphy. At least during his 26 year tenure, people knew he was a leader. This gang of Republicans in the Senate could learn a lot about governing if they quit worrying about exercising power over one another.

Note

February 18th, 2012
5:07 am

I vote for one board member who does not “represent” the schools my children attend. That’s the so called “fair, local control” system Cherokee is moving towards. When I contact the board member in charge of my children’s schools, she is not my “representative.” Good luck Cherokee parents in joining the rest of us in such a wonderful system of representational government.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

February 18th, 2012
6:41 am

xdog: Get with the goper group-think or go home.
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We run this state and county. Deal with it.

Get Real

February 18th, 2012
7:13 am

SPLOST has nothing to do with funding schools. It can only be used on capital improvements (i.e; buildings). Not one penny of SPLOST goes to the general operation of the schools. So you can vote all you want against the SPLOST. It just means your children will go to school in trailers.

Just A Grunt

February 18th, 2012
7:15 am

On the surface this seems like a logical move. By voting for all school board members on a county wide basis it would seem to cause the board to be weighted to one side. The area with the most voters can stack the board thereby ensuring the schools in their area receive all the bennies while those in sparse areas get left out. I would think letting folks vote for a representative from their area gives everybody a voice.

CC Watch Dog

February 18th, 2012
7:48 am

@Get Real. Where were you during the recent and very hotly debated Ed-SPLOST vote? What do you think Ed-SPLOST is for? To build and build and build more CCSD schools and football fields and parent entrances and a nice big new Administration Building (most likely with a bronze statue of Mr. P.)! No, those SPLOST funds will not be used to help directly help hire teachers and educate our children, but the extension of that tax will certainly put little Suzie Second Grader into a lifetime of debt!! Chip Rogers and Sean Jerguson deserve our thanks for working hard, taking time away from their families to conduct town hall meetings on the weekends and for standing up to the bullies that have had control of this county for YEARS! I, for one, choose not to follow your PTA-driven cattle mentality. CCSD may be on the top of the GA education system stinky pile of dung…but that does not mean we don’t stink!!!

change we can only hope for

February 18th, 2012
7:58 am

Republican my entire life the state party and its tatics are repulsive. What ever happened to the elected official representing his constituents and not the party. Greed, immorality and narcissim are the pillars to the current Ga Republican party.

crankee_yankee

February 18th, 2012
8:24 am

The Republican mantra of “local control” can be defined as the locus of control resting with whomever is wanting to make the rules, the local community be damned. The sooner people wake up to that, the better off we will all be.

Browncoat

February 18th, 2012
8:24 am

This is nothing new. This is the way political parties and politics have worked in the Untited States from the beginning. Go back and read about the Federalists abd Anti-Federalists and the Presidential elections of 1796 and 1800. And while the Democrats were in power in Georgia during the 20th Century, they did they same type of things. To use this incident to indict the Republican party is ignorant. Now to use this incident to indict the entire political process…maybe.

sad but true

February 18th, 2012
8:25 am

CCWatchDog- do they also get our thanks for working hard at all those dinners out courtesy of lobbyists and tickets to sporting events? Jerguson and Rogers have their heads so far into the trough of lobbyist gifts and cash, it is obscene. They’ve been well-paid for their time and won’t even answer e-mails or talk to the media on this topic.