African-Americans make up 3.6 percent of 2011 Zell Miller Scholarship recipients

Democrats in the state Senate, led by Jason Carter of Decatur, continued their badgering of Republicans on the future of the lottery-fueled HOPE scholarship today.

They’ve got a website, of course. Everyone does. This one is called Vanishing HOPE.

More important, they have some demographic breakdowns of HOPE recipients, produced by the Board of Regents, that show what could be the start of a troubling trend:

– Of the 8,721 high school graduates who were awarded a full-ride, Zell Miller Scholarship at state universities last fall, only 320 were African-American. That’s 3.6 percent. Georgia’s black population was measured at 30 percent, according to the 2010 census. Asian-Americans accounted for 897 Zell Miller Scholarships, or 10 percent.

See the university-by-university breakdown by clicking here.

– Of the 74,278 high school graduates who received the lesser HOPE scholarship and attended a state university in the fall of 2011, only 12,724 were African-American – 17 percent.

See the university-by-university breakdown by clicking here.

We can argue about the cause all day long. Please feel free to do so – politely. But you have to admit this is a disturbing disconnect in need of some attention.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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150 comments Add your comment

keith

February 16th, 2012
6:10 pm

And the point is? Look we have equal opportunity not guaranteed equal results.

Ernest

February 16th, 2012
6:17 pm

Interesting data…..

roughrider

February 16th, 2012
6:18 pm

There is a low number of people of African decent that are scholars.

Rod

February 16th, 2012
6:28 pm

wow roughrider is rough. hope you get everything you truly deserve in life

Bates

February 16th, 2012
6:34 pm

As an undergraduate student receiving the HOPE scholarship at a state institution, I am truly disturbed by these numbers. However, I am not surprised. Regarding the comment pertaining to equal opportunity, that is simply not true. This misconception leads people to believe that African Americans are given the opportunity to perform at higher academic levels and are just not as scholarly. As a child, I tested as a gifted student. My performance in the classroom as well as on standardized tests has always exceeded the state expectations–placing me in the 90th percentile for my grade levels. There are a lot of environmental factors that influence a child’s education and academic performance making equal opportunity not so equal. An example would be the way teachers in this state treat young African American males differently than their lighter skinned counterparts for disruptions in the classroom. A child’s true potential is only realized when others around them ( as well as themselves) recognize it and encourage it.

WhoDatObama

February 16th, 2012
6:42 pm

Blacks have so many government programs to help them with. Blacks have affirmative action, government grants, urban enterprise zones, government housing programs granted toward them. Colleges have minority grants. See Obama for that. I’m so tried of all this BS. Blacks can EARN their way just like EVERYBODY else does. Blacks are able and don’t need this democrat plantation crap anymore. It’s time for ALL of us to stand on our own two feet and go to work period. People earn it and pay for it yourself.

jumping jack flash

February 16th, 2012
6:43 pm

“We can argue about the cause all day long. Please feel free to do so – politely. But you have to admit this is a disturbing disconnect in need of some attention.”

There’s not a lot to argue about. Anyone who knows anything about history knows the reason.. It has to do with social evolution, and not enough time has passed to naturally close the gap between the races. The governments’ flawed attempts to expedite the process only perpetuated the disparity.

This is Mrs. Norman Maine

February 16th, 2012
6:46 pm

“you have to admit this is a disturbing disconnect in need of some attention.”

Disturbing to who? Come on Jim, you know who frequents these blogs and I can assure you that they are not “disturbed” by this news. This is welcome news for some in this state and for others, they could care less.

AtticusFinch

February 16th, 2012
6:46 pm

roughrider is obviously qualified to comment on scholarly ability since he can’t spell descent.

Black Scholar

February 16th, 2012
6:47 pm

Roughrider — close to, but not quite, the English scholar! Perhaps local elementary schools are accepting grammar 101 applications. Feel free to steer clear of lowly but DECENT students of African DESCENT.

T.A

February 16th, 2012
6:49 pm

I agree with Bates. African Americans can be just as scholarly if not more than other people are. However, there are environmental factors that acutely affect them that can change equal opportunity into a very unequal playing field. We continue to suppress the cough with over the counter cough medicine but we are not understanding why we are coughing in the first place. One can argue what Bates said in how African American males are treated differently in the classroom- not just for disruptions but for everything in general; how other students perceive an intelligent African American male or female; the way the activities, assignments, etc. are structured and how they impact African American students- there’s so many potential reasons behind the cough that are not being looked at. Let’s take a look and evaluate these issues before taking cough syrup and suppressing the cough to give the illusion everything is fine and dandy.

Jobie

February 16th, 2012
6:50 pm

Mr. Galloway:

You made a mistake in your title . . . It should read Black Americans . . .

Meghan

February 16th, 2012
6:54 pm

Jobie,

I prefer God’s brown children.

WhoDatObama

February 16th, 2012
7:04 pm

Total BS. Blacks students are treated just like other students. Reguardless of the color of one’s skin. Grow the F@$K up people.

Bonedaddy

February 16th, 2012
7:12 pm

Let me guess, somehow evil republicans are in a dark room (sorry, no pun intended), conspiring to see who gets the scholarships. Lets look at this another way…….GRADES.

Bonedaddy

February 16th, 2012
7:14 pm

Also, what is a black person from Africa called who has become a recent American citizen? Lemme guess, a African African American, or African American African, or just plain American?

Bonedaddy

February 16th, 2012
7:15 pm

Eat another Twinkie Jim.

bilbo799

February 16th, 2012
7:17 pm

Bates and TA rehash a tired, old argument. Even assuming they’re correct that Blacks aren’t treated equally by teachers, my question is “so what?” First, as a minority, I’ve experienced racism from teachers — for me, it served as extra incentive to work harder to prove people wrong. All students will face some sort of adversity — Bates and TA want to engage in a futile attempt to get rid of all obstacles when the answer lies in getting students to demand more from themselves, regardless of what “racist” people do. Second, recognizing that Black students experience certain disadvantages (supposedly), programs like affirmative action give Black students advantages in the application process that MORE than compensate.

td

February 16th, 2012
7:21 pm

Total % for Zell Miller for all institutions:

Total: 10,629
Hispanic: 351 or 3.3% and are 8.8% of the total population
Asian: 927 or 8.7% and are 3.2% of the total population
AA: 400 or 3.8% and are 30.5% of the total population
White: 8516 or 80% and are 59.7% of the total population

td

February 16th, 2012
7:27 pm

bilbo799

February 16th, 2012
7:17 pm

Not only what you said but also looking at the numbers: Hispanics have the same amount of poverty and do not even speak the language and they are equal numbers of scholarships awarded while having 21.7% less population. Asians are out preforming both groups tremendously and most have English as a second language.

Bonedaddy

February 16th, 2012
7:27 pm

Bonedaddy

February 16th, 2012
7:30 pm

Here’s another statistic for you.
More than 19 million children — about one in four — were living in households where no father, biological or other, was present, according to a Census Bureau report in 2005.

The statistics also show that this burden falls more heavily on black children. Some 56 percent of black children lived in single-parent families in 2004, with most of those families headed by mothers. That figure compared with 22 percent of white children and 31 percent of Hispanic children.

Don't Tread

February 16th, 2012
7:53 pm

“you have to admit this is a disturbing disconnect in need of some attention”

OK, so what’s your plan for prompting the baby mamas and daddies (a majority of black baby daddies not even sticking around, according to the above post) to get their kids to study, do their homework, and pay attention in class? That’s what’s needing attention.

CDJ

February 16th, 2012
7:57 pm

This revealed data, interesting or not, raises the issue of who participates in lottery games and who benefits from the largesse. Studies show that low-income and minority individuals participate in lottery games at a higher propensity than other socio-economic groups.

Thus, the relevant public policy question becomes whether it’s “fair” for low and moderate-income individuals to pay for the college education of students from more affluent households. Lottery funding is not a tax; if it was it was be akin to toll roads, which are user fees. Accordingly, the benefits of lottery funding should be proportionate to those paying the user fee. The data implies that the HOPE program is a cross subsidy program — no better way to put it. As one who supports rewarding merit, I simply cannot justify the facts at hand.

CDE

February 16th, 2012
8:05 pm

THANKS for this truly amazing and very, very disturbing statistics.

It is unbelievable that only 320 African-Americans were awarded a full ride Zell Miller Scholarship to state universities in 2011.

There are 159 counties in the State of Georgia. This averages out to a whooping 2 Black students per county.

Former Democratic Governor and Republican Senator Zell Miller must be ecstatic .

Black lottery players statewide should STAND UP and unite !!!

We do not have to stand for this inequality in the distribution of lottery funded scholarships.

Atlanta Mom

February 16th, 2012
8:08 pm

According to http://education-portal.com/articles/Georgia_GA_Colleges_and_Universities.html
black/nonhispanics make up 5.4 % of the undergraduate enrollment population. Looks to me like they have a very high % of Zell Miller scholarships.

td

February 16th, 2012
8:11 pm

Totals for Hope lite scholarships:

Total: 74,278
Hispanic: 3,698 or 4.9% and are 8.8% of the total population
Asian: 4,108 or 5.5% and are 3.2% of the total population
AA: 12,724 or 17.1% and are 30.5% of the total population
White: 49,258 or 66% and are 59.7% of the total population

Atlanta Mom

February 16th, 2012
8:12 pm

ooops, I retract my information. It is OLD, and applicable only to UGA. I’ll look for more corrent information. My bad

td

February 16th, 2012
8:16 pm

More interesting stats:

Zell Miller scholarship

Female: 6231 or 60%
Male: 4399 or 40%

Hope lite scholarship :

Female: 45,125 or 60%
Male: 27,635 or 40%

Appears that females are outperforming their male counterparts in our secondary education system. Does this mean that there is a gender bias in our secondary schools or does it mean that females work harder in the classroom?

J

February 16th, 2012
8:19 pm

Bates & T.A.; any chance either of you are education majors?
Keith is correct.

LORD

February 16th, 2012
8:27 pm

I PRAY THAT THE PEOPLE LIVING IN GEORGIA WAKE UP. DO NOT JUDGE PEOPLE BASED ON THE COLOR OF SKIN. THERE ARE BLACK CRIMINALS AS WELL AS WHITE CRIMINALS. THERE ARE BLACK DUMMIES AS WELL AS WHITE DUMMIES. THERE ARE BLACK GHETTO PEOPLE AS WELL AS WHITE GHETTO PEOPLE.

I HOPE IT DOESN’T TAKE SOMETHING LIKE 9-11 TO HAPPEN IN GEORGIA FOR PEOPLE TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER AND NOT MISTREAT PEOPLE BASED ON SKIN COLOR. THE BIBLE SAYS WE ARE TO LOVE EACH AND TREAT EACH OTHER HOW WE WANT TO BE TREATED.

PLEASE STOP ALL THE HATRED AND TRY TO BE AT PEACE WITH EACH OTHER. THE WORLD IS BIG ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE TO LIVE AND LOVE.

PEACE.

LORD

February 16th, 2012
8:28 pm

WE ARE TEACHING OUR CHILDREN TO HATE AND IT IS WRONG.

td

February 16th, 2012
8:32 pm

CDJ

February 16th, 2012
7:57 pm

There is no evidence in the data that states what the income levels of the scholarship parents are. Matter of fact I am willing to bet that the vast majority of the students themselves would be considered poor if you looked at just their income.

td

February 16th, 2012
8:42 pm

CDE

February 16th, 2012
8:05 pm

Your facts are a little distorted and some are just plain wrong.

1: Zell Miller was never a Republican and retired from the Senate as a Democrat.

2: African Americans earned a total of 13,124 total scholarships of which 400 were full scholarships. Some of the 400 chose to attend historically black colleges instead of attending the major universities in the state.

Look before I leap...

February 16th, 2012
8:44 pm

@td

“Does this mean that there is a gender bias in our secondary schools or does it mean that females work harder in the classroom?”

It doesn’t tell you anything other than 60% of the people getting Hope scholarship money are female.

CDJ

February 16th, 2012
8:46 pm

td-

Not sure what your bias is toward academic research, but I’d encourage you to review the body of literature that exists on state lottery enterprises (more needs to be done if you ask me) and determine whether you accept the results/conclusions or not. I reviewed a study just this week that examined this very issue on a national level. Thus, I would have to respectfully disagree that no one has looked at the issue in this manner. The body of literature is not expansive as I contend it should be (these are multi-billion dollar state enterprises), nevertheless we have to start somewhere to arrive at some understanding, right.

Ashley Dawson

February 16th, 2012
8:51 pm

I like to see the same break-down when it applies to athletes who are on scholarship.

Centrist

February 16th, 2012
8:55 pm

Democrats (hence the AJC) wants to make the Hope SCHOLARSHIP an affirmative action and another means tested entitlement.

It isn’t going to happen. It is going to remain an EARNED scholarship.

Just Wondering

February 16th, 2012
9:00 pm

If Blacks or African Americans are the majority of Georgia lottery players, as is put forth by many self proclaimed non-lottery playing republicans, is it wealth re-distribution if the award winners of the Hope Scholarships are the children of non-lottery playing republican Georgians?

Just wondering or asking. I know the lottery is voluntary so don’t bother throwing that out to me. I mean if you don’t play the lottery, then why should your child benefit? At least that is the logic of the argument of wealth re-distribution…right?

td

February 16th, 2012
9:01 pm

Look before I leap…

February 16th, 2012
8:44 pm

Well it looks like others are coming to conclusions based on numbers so I posed a similar question in a sarcastic manner.

td

February 16th, 2012
9:04 pm

CDJ

February 16th, 2012
8:46 pm

Please post some sources and sites to read this research.

double

February 16th, 2012
9:05 pm

Lord You are hurting my ears.

bilbo799

February 16th, 2012
9:14 pm

@Just Wondering You’re saying you know the lottery is voluntary so “don’t bother throwing that out to me.” Well, you just addressed your own question with the obvious answer that you don’t want thrown at you. It may technically be “redistribution” but this sort of redistribution shouldn’t bother anyone because it’s voluntary. It’s like when people donate to charities (or, for that matter, choose to spend/give money for any other reason): that’s “redistribution” but its totally unobjectionable because it’s by choice. Very different from taxation.

School Digger

February 16th, 2012
9:16 pm

Go to schooldigger.com to see your local schools demographics, test scores, state rankings ect. Its not Rocket Science, the higher the black population in the school the lower the test scores. Its not being racists, its facts, do the research. The high school I went to was in the top 25 in the state when I graduate, it was about 5% black. Now it is 75% black and ranked well out of the top 300 high schools in the state.

School Digger

February 16th, 2012
9:17 pm

This political correctness makes me sick

Look before I leap...

February 16th, 2012
9:20 pm

@School Digger

Well, based upon the poor spelling and atrocious grammar in your post, it is apparent the school’s test scores went UP when you “graduate”.

Too funny! Thanks for the laugh.

Look before I leap...

February 16th, 2012
9:27 pm

@Centrist

Even if the means test is re-implemented, it would still be an EARNED scholarship.
What exactly is your objection to a means test?

bilbo799

February 16th, 2012
9:28 pm

@ CDJ. The lottery is nothing like a user fee for education. User fees are paid for access/use of a good or service. No one plays the lottery in order to get access to UGA or GT. People play the lottery for the chance to win a jackpot — if you get a valid lottery ticket, you’ve gotten what you’ve paid for. Lottery players are absolutely not entitled to any particular proportion of education funds. Your “logic” makes no sense.

Centrist

February 16th, 2012
9:30 pm

This is a liberal blog in liberal newspaper in a conservative state.

Democrats are not going to be given special consideration in redistricting, the anti-ILLEGAL immigration law is not going to be reversed by the legislature, and the Hope scholarship is not going to be based on need or set-asides. It will not matter how often these things are brought up by Democrats and the AJC (redundant).