State lawmaker: Mitt Romney ‘a nice man, but I’m afraid of his Mormon faith’

Give me that old-time religion…like Leviticus. Maybe the lunatic fringe a/k/a the Georgia Legislature will bring back public stoning as an apporpriate punishment.

Hey, its in the Bible and therefore beyond question.

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Well at least he’s not an agnostic or an atheist. Anything but that…

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This seems to be about the most appropriate response to Rep. Judy Manning’s statement…

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And we elected this person? Sounds like as far as religion goes, it’s your way or the highway. Nothing like slamming the Muslim and Mormon religion in owe fell swoop. Next time Ms. Manning, stop and think before you say something stupid.

And by the way, I think MItt Romney has only one wife. The past is the past.

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Talk about ignorant. I appreciate knowing that a man of faith and values is looking to be in the White House. I believe he has one wife of many years. Nice change.

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Comments like this just make us look like a backwards state. She should be replaced immediately.

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Actually, there is no requirement in the new or old testament that a man have only 1 wife. Good rule, but nowhere in the Bible, Ms. Manning.

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@honest_abe 1:36P
What is more frightening is that a bunch of people showed up on election day and decided that Judy Manning should be their state representative.

At least Manning is out in the open where we can keep an eye on her. It’s the thousands of nitwits hiding in the bushes that keep me up at night.

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ms. manning = ms. bachmann

two bimbo’s trying to look smart? stop! for the sake of god, allah, bhudda, the tree’s, my sanity!!!!!!!!!!!

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I am scared of Right wing GOP Christian Conservatism. That is a real threat to this country.

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She is crazy, but she does not represent the state but rather a district. I am sure most in her district feel about the same we do. You forget politicians think on a different level-and it’s usually one level below everyone else.

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Well, it is between him, a man who converted to Catholicism for votes or the current muslim.
Take your pick

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I think it is interesting that the people in the US who fear sharia the most are bible thumpers like Ms Manning of Cobb County who wants to force her religion on everyone else…

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Maybe she should research her history…southern redneck crackers are more of a danger to socieities than mormoms or muslims.

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Why are ya’ll acting so surprised? There’s a whisper campaign about Mitt and his religion that has been going on for a number of years. Grow up some people are bigots and sadly there isn’t anything we can do about it. You people and your party are sad.

BTW @Southern Comfort fantastic artwork!

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Sorry people, but a person’s faith has absolutely nothing to do with what kind of elected official they will be. I’m not a Romney fan at all, but I want him to win the Republican nomination just to piss off the right wing Evangelicals who think that only a “Christian” can be president.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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Vote, can you please provide us with any shred of proof that Obama is a Muslim?

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Religious bigotry is alive and well in Georgia.
So what’s new?

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Judy is a bigot . She probably would vote for a KKK candidate.

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And to think all these years I believed that this country respected andpromoted freedom of religion. I guess that is why I never have been chosen to run for public office. Thank goodness I do not live in representative Manning’s district. Those who elected her, deserve her.

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Is she saying the Dough boy doesn’t support plural marriage? I’d say 3 wives and probably multiple rent to owns would prove that he does.

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DW

January 4th, 2012
1:58 pm
Doesn’t the Old Testament tell stories about men with multiple wives? Are those stories invalid?

Yes it does and I still have not seen anyting to say it is wrong except women do not want to share.

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A man of faith and values is already in the White House.

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Judy prefers a serial adulterer to a cult-worshiper. Would someone ask Willard if he really believes the angel Macaroni spoke to Joey Smith and told him where to find the gold tablets? Does Willard also believe in the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny? Does Judy agree with Newt’s philosophy that a b.j. does not constitute “cheating”? All GOP candidates are looney. Or liars. Or both.

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Please study the Mormon Faith. We are Christians. If you would take the time to find out. I thought Heavenly Father taught us to love one another. Wow we are still be perscuted because we worship Jesus Christ and Heavenly Father.

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This is what happens when women, especially kooks, are allowed to speak without a man’s permission.

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Ladies and gentlemen, I give you today’s GOP.

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For some (like Judy Manning and others in these posts), being Christian is all about being included in the right ‘definition’ and ‘club’ of Christianity, of which the qualifications are as narrow as their minds and are very exclusive. For others (like Mitt Romney and many Mormons I know), being Christian is about trying to follow Christ and His teachings (like not judging others, and treating others as you would be treated) which are very inclusive. It is not about what you say, but about what you do, especially in the treatment of others, that defines true Christianity. “Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in they name….and in thy name done many wonderful works? …..I will profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. …whosoever heareth my sayings and doeth them, I will liken unto a wise man……………………………. (Matthew 7: 22-23)

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Mark posted “Once again that nasty Liberal media is responsible for the Republicans missteps”

It is the media like this blog that purposely highlights such religious bigotry. It is a purposeful dirty tactic, and not a “whispering campaign”. Mr. Jim Galloway is part of it.

The only possible good from this underhanded strategy would be if Cobb County voters never re-elect Ms Judy Manning.

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*facepalm*

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Whatsamatter Judy? Don’t you want to end up in eternity with your spouse on your very own planet procreating ’spirit babies’ ? That’s what happens to Good Mormons!

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TD, your credibility is officially shot if you are hitching your cart to the “Obama is a Muslim” bandwagon. Even if he was a Muslim, so what? There are other elected officials in this country who are Muslim (Minn. state rep Keith Ellison being one of them) and I haven’t seen any evidence of them trying to start a jihad or implement Sharia law (the idea that it could happen is complete BS anyway).

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Well that obviously depends on your definition of Christian. They are followers of Christ and His teachings so yes in that respect. Of course Mormons also have lots of recent ‘revelations’ that are not teachings of Christ, but then again, so do almost all recognized Christian faiths, including Catholics, the oldest among them.

Did Christ teach the hierarchy of religious enlightenment? Seems to me that He spoke directly to the people and their understanding did not require interpretation.
Did Christ prohibit alcohol and dancing? Some Baptists seem to think He changed his mind right after that water-to-wine miracle.
Did Christ support the superiority of men over women? His Jewish religion did but He treated all people equally.

Established religions are systems for ordering society and collecting power for a group of people and often have little to do with the teachings of Christ. Being a good Christian is unrelated to which church you do (or do not) attend.

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Ms. Manning you’re the one whom folks should be afraid of since you seem to like to speak without knowing what you’re speaking about. My wife and I are Latter Day Saints (”Mormons”) and there’s no more need to be afraid of us – or Mitt Romney – anymore than there is to be afraid of a Baptist or a Presbyterian. Surely you can think of a better reason to “fear” Mr. Romney than his religious beliefs.

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Have you ever read the book of Mormon?

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I guess Judy is AFRAID. That sums up the Republican’s !

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I’m very scared of these bible thumping, holier than thou, conservative so called Christians who go around parading their “goodness”. One of these characters just won an election in my district, but during the campaign, he and his followers broke every campaign law they could get away with breaking. And yes, I am a Christian and on the staff of a church.

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Anyone who believes in this nonsense should NOT be president:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Mormon

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Cap Pistol has it right.

We get to choose between a serial adulterer or a mormon. Mormons may of dropped the polygamy part, unless your an extremist Mormon, but they still believe that the American Indian was Jews transported to North America by God.

Other then that, Joseph Smith was a grave robber who was down on his luck and used the greated tool ever created by man, religion, to bring himself wealth.

Not much unlike Muhammad. He wasnt doing to well in polytheistic Mecca so he marries into a merchant family and then steals Judaism and creates Islam.

I cant vote for a person that believes what Mormons believe. Might as well vote for a Scientologist. Xenu is real… Honest.

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Sam, why do you have such a problem with a sect of mythology that only happens to not be your sect of mythology?

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Being a mormon is no different than christianity. Its all a big fairy tale. I do question the judgment of any Presidential candidate who believes in fairy tales.

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@Sam 2:30P

Yet someone who believes in the following garbage should?????

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Leviticus

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Oh and far as those commericals they put out, they absolutely must. Most Mormons dont marry out of the church. This creates a very small gene pool to pull from. They must attract new Mormons for genetic diversity.

The Mormon religion is 99% accurately protrayed in a South Park episode. That’s all that needs to be said about it.

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I’m about to go get my popcorn.

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This woman makes all Christians look so bad. Believe me, there are many Christians who do not share here thoughts.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=O9_kAGU1uX0&feature=endscreen

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I would not vote for Romney because…#1 he is a hypocrite regarding his moral stance on same-sex unions & abortion…as a Liberal Republican Governor of Mass. he was for it…as a “born-again” (Conservative Presidential Candidate) he is against both…#2 Not because he is a Mormon (personal faith) BUT because as a Mormon he is a part of one of the most POWERFUL entities not only in America but world-wife. If radical Islam’s agenda is extremely overt…The Latter-Day Saints agenda is totally covert. Both have the same goal….domination of the world

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the stupidity of some republicans knows no bounds

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Every Mormon I’ve ever known – I would be pleased to have them for a neighbor and friend.

And I’d MUCH rather have a Mormon in the White House than a man who sat through 20 years of the racist rantings of Jeremiah Wright and NEVER had a problem with them – until it became public – and then pleaded “ignorance”.
So, he lied about being ignorant or he was satisfied with the raving and ranting – in my mind either one disqualified him from my respect.

So, Judy….. put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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Dear Ms. Manning,

I consider myself a conservative and a Christian and no, I am not a Mormon. I find your statements quoted in the Marietta Daily Journal and the AJC to be ignorant and outrageous.

Why are you afraid of someone you do not know? By all accounts, Mitt Romney is a fine upstanding citizen who has many accomplishments. You can be afraid of him as a leader because he will apparently say anything to be elected but to say that he cannot lead the country because he is a Mormon reveals you to be incredibly shallow and unenlightened.

Judge not lest you be judged. It is people such as you that are the reason I am a follower of Christ but a member of no organized religion. Churches tend to draw boundaries around their own tribal beliefs and prevent their followers from experiencing all of God’s creation, including Mormons.

You have embarrassed the Republican party and our state. Please resign.

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DJ Sniper

January 4th, 2012
2:17 pm

BTW: Secular humanist socialist can not be Muslims either.

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@Michael 2:46

I think we are pretty safe from Mormon domination. They compose about 2% of the US population -steady since 1996 and only about .2 % of the world’s population.

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@David 2:02

Great post explaining many of the false doctrines of the LDS church. If you study the Bible it is clear that those who practice and believe in the Mormon faith are not Christians. I am not condemning anyone, I am just saying that Mormons are followers of false doctrine.

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The only thing I have about the Mormon faith is that it was basically written by a con man. So we are going to elect a man to make the most important decisions of our country who believes in a religion thought up and enacted by a con man. I am supposed to believe this person is a good decision maker REALLY!

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scott

January 4th, 2012
3:00 pm

The majority of the libertarian wing will either not vote or vote libertarian party. Some will vote for the Republican nominee but that will only be about 20%. Romney will more then likely pick religious conservative but I have been hearing rumors that they are looking at Rubio and Dr. Rice.

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@td
2 points
I am not a liberal. I am a fiscal conservative, social moderate and a smaller federal government.
You did not “get a rise out of me or DJ” We both pointed out that it is very difficult to take ANYTHING you say seriously when you keep coughing up your little hateballs.
So if your impetus for posting here is not reasoned argument or debate, but simply to troll, fine. I’ll just skip over your posts and please, feel free to do the same to mine.

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There is only one requirement to be a Christian—to follow the teachings of Jesus. Anything else is pure dribble created by exclusionists.

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Sometimes when I hear these religious bigots I think they deserve to have Obama for four more years. And maybe Hillary for eight more after that.

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One more thing: have we forgotten that this country was created on a foundation of religious freedom? The early settlers were perceived to believe in false doctrine, and they came here to practice their religion as they saw fit.

Bottom line: If the Republicans nominate anyone other than Romney, Obama wins a second term. So, make your comparisons about this: would you prefer a conservative, family values leader like Romney, or a socialist, left wing Obama who will continue to do all he can to remake this country into a nation of weakness and despair?

That’s the choice, friends. Like it or not. Choose Paul or Santorum, and Obama wins. Choose Romney, and there’s a chance for the Republicans.

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I will NOT vote for someone who is a christian!!

Just kiddin… sounds pretty stupid doesn’t it?

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Hey Spaghetti, I am thinking for myself. I’m valuing my beliefs as no more right or wrong than anyone else on the planet. The point was, our own faith is most likely dictated by our upbringing. Hopefully we’ve all taken time to make decisions on our own.

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“They also deny the diety of Christ as well as the Doctrine of the Trinity,”

Doctrine. That is stuff that was made up by MEN throughout the ages who decided how they wish to interpret the spiritual world and our place in it. Why is the “doctrine” of your brand of Christianity any better than the Mormons? If it didn’t come from CHRIST it is not part of Christianity.

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@The Bible Answer Man

Your comments about what Mormons believe are not accurate. Mormons absolutely believe in the divinity of Jesus, God the Father, and the Holy Ghost. It is true that they don’t believe in the details and doctrines that were outlined in the Nicene Creed, which was written a few hundred years after the books in the New Testament.

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David:

People in that live in glass houses should not throw stone. If you were to research the LDS church you would know that the information stated is incorrect.

As you said (your answer is first and my reply with the correct information is between the **)

So lets see…

- Mormons believe in multiple Gods for other worlds, Christianity does not reply *WE DO NOT in other gods in other worlds. We believe in Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ the son and the Holy Ghost.*

- Mormons believe Jesus was created, Christianity does not reply* Jesus CHrist was created, he was sent from heaven to earth as we all are. The difference between Jesus Christ and ourselves is he is the son of God.*

- Mormons believe in multiple heavens, Christianity does not reply * It is that we believe in mutliple heavens, it is different levels of heaven*

- Mormons believe everyone (regardless of religion) goes to one of the heavenly kingdoms, except those who leave the Mormon faith. They are cast into “outer darkness”. reply *We do not believe that the only way to go to hell or outer darkness as you are calling it is to leave the religion. There are sins that will get to hell. Yes be believe that there are different levels of heaven, but if you read the bible it states that there are different levels. I believe that is in the book of Revelations. As far as calling hell the outer darkness it is just a nice way of saying it. **

- Mormons believe in baptism for the dead, Christianity does not. reply * in the bible it does talk about bapitisms for the dead, you should read the bible agian.*

- Mormons believe humans (of the Mormon faith) can become gods for other worlds, Christianity does not reply* we believe God created us in his likeness and wants us to be like him, however that does not translate into being God. You seem to read too much into things and misunderstand all.*

- Mormons believe the god of earth was once a man who became god, Christianity does not reply* we believe that Heavenly Father created everything, we do not believe that he was on earth then became god.*

- Mormons believe god must have a wife in order to become a god, Christianity does not reply* we do not believe will become god, but we will be god like. God created us in his likeness.*

- Mormons believe all humans existed prior to life on earth, Christianity does not. reply * you are created prior to conceception. Heavenly Father created you and chose who you would be, before you enter the world, so yes you did exist be for you were born.*

- Mormons believe Jesus and Lucifer are spirit-brothers, Christianity teaches that Jesus created Satan reply* Heavenly father created the angels and his son Jesus Christ so technically they are brothers. You and I are technically brothers but we dont seem to be claiming each other.**

- Mormons believe Jesus should not receive the same worship as God the Father, Christianity teaches Jesus should
receive the same worship as the Father. *reply I dont know where you heard this one but it is not true*

- Mormons teach that god curses certain individuals with dark skin, Christianity does not.. *the bible states that God cursed people with the dark skin. It is not a mormon belief it is a statement in the bible in Leviticus*

.- Mormons teach the Bible is incomplete for faith, Christianity teaches the Bible is reliable *reply We do not believe that bible is incomplete, we believe the book of mormon is a second book. If you feel like it is not possible to for this to be an addition to the bible, so be it. But just an FYI the bible was not written in order and things have been added so you can take that all the way and say the bible isnt true becuase book were added at later times..*

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Look before I leap…

January 4th, 2012
3:08 pm

I am a serious conservative poster the majority of the time. The majority of my post are greeted with personal bashing from the left so every once in a while I will give them a zinger or two to get their blood boiling. It is your choice if you want to skip over my post or not.

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Oh wait we should support the born again Christians like Newt, or how about the Baptist Christians like Cain, or maybe the Christians that were in the Klan, or how about the Christians that said slavery was ok.
I am not a Mitt fan, but not supporting him because of his relgion, shows the idiots hypocrites of some of the christians in this country especially the billl bobs of the south””’

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David…so there are theological differences between Mormons and standard Christianity…really1? So the point being that these differences make Mormons sound less credible because their religious beliefs sound wacky. News flash…all religions require a leap of faith and have aspects that sound less than rational to non believers. I will choose a candidate based upon their political positions and competence. Not where they sit on Sundays.

That said I would oppose a strict Muslim candidate not because of specific beliefs related to God but because of the lack of division between church and state that is integral to Islam.

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Mormons are not Protestants, but they are Christians. A restorationist branch of Christianity to be sure, that doesn’t accept the 4th century non-biblical Nicene Creed.

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Yes, and the Catholic church used to hold inquisitions and burn people at the stake. I believe it has been several hundred years since that last happened. So Mormonism contains some weird notions, eh? Weirder than a god creating a flawed race of beings and then punishing them for being imperfect? And then having his son suffer and die because of it? Really?

It’s interesting that Jimmy Carter, an actual born-again Christian, never pandered to religion or used it as a political weapon, while another pol who was personally pretty much unchurched nevertheless counted on the Falwell pinheads to constitute a siginificant chunk of his base. Not mentioning names here, but the initials are Ronald Reagan.

I don’t care in Romney is a Wiccan, a Druid, or an Episcopalian as long as he keeps it to himself. I don’t care if he wears ceremonial underpants as long as he doesn’t show them to us. I do care that he knows poop from polish about what makes the economy work, unlike the incumbent and his leftist vanguard.

Ideology functions exactly like religion. That is, it substitutes faith for facts. There is absolutely no evidence that Romney thinks like that. It is, in fact, his dogged pragamatism that the right wing most dislikes. This is why they are no better for the country than the left.

I am sick of right-wingers who “know” when human life begins, and of left wingers who “know” that government is the answer to all questions. Give me someone who recognizes uncertainty and proceeds with a degree of caution and restraint. That would be a positive change after 12 years of Mr. W and Mr. O.

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@BillS 3:31P

I wonder if the system was overwhelmed with calls and emails of support or was she being bashed?
I’d like to think the latter, but here in Georgia, you just can’t se sure.

My email bounced back about 15 minutes ago.

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judy.manning@house.ga.gov

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what an intolerant pos

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Spaghetti Monster

January 4th, 2012
3:40 pm

The only people she is accountable to are the ones that put her in office. They will decide if she deserves being condemned or congratulated. It is really not the business of the rest of us.

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jay

January 4th, 2012
3:41 pm
what an intolerant pos

Why because she believes something you do not?

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Rob

January 4th, 2012
3:36 pm
All of you are dumb hippie liberals. She can say whatever she wants. If all of you are so tolerant to other religions and views, why not be tolerant to intolerant people?

Of course she can say what she wants. Her speech is as protected as mine and yours. Freedom of speech however, does not grant immunity from a response from those who may disagree.
She is a public official, she made a statement to the media, the media reported it and the public responded. That is the way the system is supposed to work.
That Ms Manning is a crochety, un-enlightened, bigoted, ole cow is totally beside the point.

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It is the business of everyone to condemn stupidity, bigotry, and cruelty. If you ignore it one day you wake up in North Korea.

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Look before I leap…

January 4th, 2012
3:45 pm

Unless you live in her district then your opinion as well as mine does not count for squat.

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td: “First you need to really go and do some research about what Newt received the fine. Second, it is your opinion that religion has no place in politics. Thank God the vast majority of the people disagree with your opinion.”

please expound on that. vast majority? you and your immediate family + evangelicals hardly consititue a majority? a majority of simpletons, maybe.

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td

Religion has been the cause of more human suffering than just about any force in history. It is just another form of tribalism, an unfortunate evolutionary trait of our species.

Imagine if people judged others by the content of their character rather than the sign outside their church.

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Sadly, she probably speaks for a lot of people. And of course she’s welcome to her views, no matter how poorly they reflect on her.

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honest_abe

January 4th, 2012
3:50 pm

How about 83% of Americans that identify themselves as Christians?

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/beliefnet_poll_010718.html

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cheryl: as an elected public official it’s wrong to say call out certain religions or ethnic groups as being unequal. it’s not freedom of speech, it’s called stupidity something i’m afraid you are too familiar with.

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Q

January 4th, 2012
3:54 pm

Separation of Church and state means the government can not establish a religion not that people can not bring their religious beliefs into politics.

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td: wow! somehow you make a logical connection with people being christian and that entire 83% wanting religion in politics? you really do need a clue.

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Spaghetti Monster

January 4th, 2012
3:52 pm

Imagine if people judged others by the content of their character rather than the sign outside their church.

Eddie Long, Ted Haggard, Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Bakker anyone?
“nuff said

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That’s why she stopped watching Donnie and Marie.

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honest_abe

January 4th, 2012
3:58 pm

If ones religious belief is so irrelevant as you claim then please explain to me how every single Presidential candidate in the last 40 years (including Obama) has come out in public and professed their faith in Jesus Christ and said he was their personal Lord and savior? Can you explain that one or is it something you just ignore prescribing to the Secular humanist religion?

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Hicks are going to be hicks. Perhaps some day the GOP will get smart and stop catering to this toothless nutjobs.

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td

Politicians claim to be religious because they are pandering for the votes of those who are afraid of people different from themselves, a large percentage of the US population. I sincerely hope it is not a majority but sometimes I do despair that it is.

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“The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is Christians who acknowledge Jesus with their lips then walk out the door and deny him by their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable.”

Brennan Manning

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And here I thought the primary cause of atheism was the develepment of the the human brain and, ergo, our ability to reason. The creation of ALL mythologies (including every religion) has always been instigated by the human species looking for explanations of those things not understood and feared…..mainly death.

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@Brian 4:11

I took a class in Pseudo Christian Cults in college and studied the false teaching of Mormonism, and various other false religions.

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Hey, MB, where is the line of demarcation between “false” religions and the rest? (iyo, of course)

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Christianity is made up of those who follow the teachings of Christ. Get it? Jews do not follow Christ. Hindus do not follow Christ. Buddhist do not follow Christ. There are millions of people on Planet Earth who believe in God. In the final analysis it should matter not to any fair minded person what belief system is adopted as long as people believe in honesty, compassion toward their fellow man, and are law abiding.

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You’re right ed, Christians are those who accept Christ as Lord and follow the teachings of Christ. Christians are not whose who follow the teachings of that fraud and convict Joseph Smith who has managed to deceive thousands.

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[...] “conservative revolt” against a Romney-led ticket, beyond a smattering of evangelicals who really don’t like Mormons. The best way to describe the wingnut mood about this contest is that a Romney nomination would [...]

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So with all this going back and forth about who is or isn’t Christian, one question comes to mind. What would Jesus think of all of this? What would HE say to everyone trying their best to define him, and themselves, and about the hate and intolerance that is all over this board? Doesn’t seem very Christ-like to me.

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That is one of the most idiotic and assinine things I’ve ever read coming coming directly from the mouth of an adult. Are you kidding me? Ladies and gentlemen, your elected officials! ARE YOU KIDDING ME!? 2012, I should’ve never doubted you. I know I said I’ve seen everything and people’s idiocy cannot possibly get lower but, there you are, immediately showing me what this world has yet to offer. Manning will now be a word in my vernacular to mean that I’ve just gotten dumber because of something someone said.

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If considering one’s race is better than another is defined as “Racist” Could we consider Ms. Manning a “RELIGIONIST”?

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I am a decendent of early converts to The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints. They joined the church in England, sold most of their belongings to buy the fares that would bring them across the ocean to America and closer to their new faith. They were good god fearing people who also cherished the country that was to become their home. My great-great grandfather was born on the ship while crossing and named George Washington Williams. They were threatened and run out of their homes by other”Christian” faiths that hated them because they believed a little differently. My Grandfather was asked to fight in the Mexican/American war. Even after being driven out of his home, he agreed to leave his family behind and fight for America. He died and was buried along the Rio Grande. His wife that he left behind also died and their children were adopted out and then traveled to the Salt Lake valley with other pioneer companies. They built a beautiful state that is one of the best places to raise a child because of it’s values. Mormons are true Americans. We are patriots. John F. Kennedy visited church officials in Utah and spoke to a large crowd saying that the Mormons are the finest example of true American fortitude. They are an example for all Americans to follow. I am proud of my heritage.

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How many more generations will we, as a society, have to go thru all this “my fariy tale’s better than your fairy tale!” nonsense?

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Ironically, Rep. Manning is one of the most moderate to liberal Republicans in the State House… one who doesn’t like being associated with “social conservatives.”

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Really MB!
Are those books really your sources on Mormonism? No wonder you don’t have a clue about what you’re talking about. Why not go make some Mormon friends and ask them what they believe?

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Hey TV, thanks for the thoughtful response. Here’s mine…

- Mormons believe in multiple Gods for other worlds, Christianity does not reply *WE DO NOT in other gods in other worlds. We believe in Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ the son and the Holy Ghost.*
—This Mormon teaching is cited in the Pearl of Great Price, Abraham 4:1
— This teaching is definitely inferred from the other teachings that Heavenly Father was once not a god and was able to become exalted and attain god status. “In the first place, aeons ago God undoubtedly took advantage of every opportunity to learn the laws of truth and as He became acquainted with each new verity He righteously obeyed it. From day to day He exerted His will vigorously, and as a result became thoroughly acquainted with the forces lying about Him. As He gained more knowledge through persistent effort and continuous industry, as well as through absolute obedience, His understanding of the universal laws continued to become more complete. Thus He grew in experience and continued to grow until He attained the status of Godhood. In other words, He became God by absolute obedience to all the truth, and thereby became the author of eternal truth. Therefore, the road that the Eternal Father followed to Godhood was one of living at all times a dynamic, industrious, and completely righteous life. There is no other way to exaltation.”
~Milton R. Hunter, The Gospel Through the Ages (Salt Lake City: Steven & Wallis, 1945), pp. 114-115 (emphasis added).”

- Mormons believe Jesus was created, Christianity does not reply* Jesus CHrist was created, he was sent from heaven to earth as we all are. The difference between Jesus Christ and ourselves is he is the son of God.*
— Please see The Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 346-7 [pre-2002 edition] which teaches that Jesus was not always God.

- Mormons believe in multiple heavens, Christianity does not reply * It is that we believe in mutliple heavens, it is different levels of heaven*
— OK – Mormons believe in multiple levels of heaven, Christianity does not. Depending on how good non-Mormons live their life and the next determines their place in one of two lower heavenly kingdoms –the telestial and terrestrial kingdoms–both of which are still outside the presence of God in his celestial kingdom.

- Mormons believe everyone (regardless of religion) goes to one of the heavenly kingdoms, except those who leave the Mormon faith. They are cast into “outer darkness”. reply *We do not believe that the only way to go to hell or outer darkness as you are calling it is to leave the religion. There are sins that will get to hell. Yes be believe that there are different levels of heaven, but if you read the bible it states that there are different levels. I believe that is in the book of Revelations. As far as calling hell the outer darkness it is just a nice way of saying it. **
— I am not familiar with the Bible describing different levels of heaven, can you enlighten me to those passages? If you are referring to 2 Corinthians 12:2, some people have interpreted this as indicating that there are three different levels of heaven, a level for “super-committed Christians” or Christians who have obtained a high level of spirituality, a level for “ordinary” Christians, and a level for Christians who did not serve God faithfully. This view has no basis in Scripture. Scripture does speak of different rewards in heaven. Jesus said regarding rewards, “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done” (Revelation 22:12).

- Mormons believe in baptism for the dead, Christianity does not. reply * in the bible it does talk about bapitisms for the dead, you should read the bible agian.*
—There is only one biblical passage that mentions baptism for the dead (1 Corinthians 15:29-30). This practice was done by those outside of Christianity since Apostle Paul made a contrast between what “they” do and what “we” do.

- Mormons believe humans (of the Mormon faith) can become gods for other worlds, Christianity does not reply* we believe God created us in his likeness and wants us to be like him, however that does not translate into being God. You seem to read too much into things and misunderstand all.*
— See the Mormon Doctrine & Covenants 76:58 and 76:95 “Wherefore, as it is written, they are gods, even the sons of God” and “And he makes them equal in power, and in might, and in dominion.”
—”…We must accept the fact that there was a time when Deity was much less powerful than He is today. Then how did He become glorified and exalted and attain His present status of Godhood? In the first place, aeons ago God undoubtedly took advantage of every opportunity to learn the laws of truth and as He became acquainted with each new verity He righteously obeyed it. From day to day He exerted His will vigorously, and as a result became thoroughly acquainted with the forces lying about Him. As He gained more knowledge through persistent effort and continuous industry, as well as through absolute obedience, His understanding of the universal laws continued to become more complete. Thus He grew in experience and continued to grow until He attained the status of Godhood. In other words, He became God by absolute obedience to all the truth, and thereby became the author of eternal truth. Therefore, the road that the Eternal Father followed to Godhood was one of living at all times a dynamic, industrious, and completely righteous life. There is no other way to exaltation.”
~Milton R. Hunter, The Gospel Through the Ages (Salt Lake City: Steven & Wallis, 1945), pp. 114-115 (emphasis added).

- Mormons believe the god of earth was once a man who became god, Christianity does not reply* we believe that Heavenly Father created everything, we do not believe that he was on earth then became god.*
— I didn’t say Mormons believe Heavenly Father was once on earth before becoming a god. Mormons believe that Heavenly Father was not always god, that he was able to be exalted and asind to becoming a god. “God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!!! . . . We have imagined that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil, so that you may see,” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345).

- Mormons believe god must have a wife in order to become a god, Christianity does not reply* we do not believe will become god, but we will be god like. God created us in his likeness.*
— Mormon Doctrine, 516-7 – God the Father has at least one wife that He needed in order to become exalted to Godhood, and by at least one wife we on this world were all literally born as spirit children prior to taking on our tangible bodies of flesh and bones via our mortal parents (McConkie). Also reference the popular Mormon hymn “O My Father”
— But even if I accept your statement, you must have a wife to be god like, right????

- Mormons believe all humans existed prior to life on earth, Christianity does not. reply * you are created prior to conceception. Heavenly Father created you and chose who you would be, before you enter the world, so yes you did exist be for you were born.*
— Christianity teaches that, with the exception of Jesus, humans are not from heaven or “above”. Christianity teaches humans come from earth or “below”. John 3:31-32, John 6:38-46, John 8:23. Christianity teaches that humans do not exist prior to conception.

- Mormons believe Jesus and Lucifer are spirit-brothers, Christianity teaches that Jesus created Satan reply* Heavenly father created the angels and his son Jesus Christ so technically they are brothers. You and I are technically brothers but we dont seem to be claiming each other.**
— Thank you for agreeing with me. As you again state, Mormonism teaches that god (Heavenly Father) created Jesus and also created Lucifer and Mormons recognize them as spirit brothers. Christianity teaches that Jesus is eternal (both past and future) and was never created. And Christianity also teaches that Jesus created Satan.

- Mormons believe Jesus should not receive the same worship as God the Father, Christianity teaches Jesus should receive the same worship as the Father. *reply I dont know where you heard this one but it is not true*
— See the Mormon Gospel Principles, page 41 which teaches prayer should be to the Heavenly Father and no one else. Even Bruce McConkie (member of the Quorum of Twelve Apostles for LDS) recognized this: “We do not worship the Son, and we do not worship the Holy Ghost.” (BYU Devotional, 1972). It is OK to pray to Heavenly father in the name of Jesus.

- Mormons teach that god curses certain individuals with dark skin, Christianity does not.. *the bible states that God cursed people with the dark skin. It is not a mormon belief it is a statement in the bible in Leviticus*
— President Brigham Young said: “Why are so many of the inhabitants of the earth cursed with a skin of blackness? It comes in consequence of their fathers rejecting the power of the holy priesthood, and the law of God.
— Book of Mormon is 2 Nephi 5:21. It is said that God cursed the Lamanites with black skin so they would not be enticing unto the Nephites.
— Where is this passage in Leviticus?

.- Mormons teach the Bible is incomplete for faith, Christianity teaches the Bible is reliable *reply We do not believe that bible is incomplete, we believe the book of mormon is a second book. If you feel like it is not possible to for this to be an addition to the bible, so be it. But just an FYI the bible was not written in order and things have been added so you can take that all the way and say the bible isnt true becuase book were added at later times..*

— The Book of Mormon calls those “fools” who claim they have a Bible and “need no more Bible” (2 Nephi 29:3-14).
— The LDS “Living Prophet” can speak oracles which actually supersede scripture and any previous prophet’s oracles, including Joseph Smith. The Bible holds the least amount of authority in the Mormon church. Other Mormon scriptures supersede the bible.

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While I find Ms. Manning’s comments offensive, I take offense to some of you people on her bashing Baptists. I was raised Baptist and am a member of a very tolerant and loving Baptist church. And for the record, in the 2008 primaries, I voted for Romney because I thought he was the best option. I am not a fan of his religion, but he does not wear it on his sleeve. That is one reason I voted for him over Huckabee – I thought he had a better chance of winning. I liked Huckabee and admired that he was not ashamed of his faith, but I knew that it would play against him.

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David- Why all the cherry-picking of quotes? Many of your “references” are not even official LDS doctrine, and yet you infer that your interpretation is what Mormons believe and teach, yet ignore many (more numerous) references that refute your claims thoroughly and in great detail?

Could it be that you are simply regurgitating claims from a biased anti-mormon website as opposed to real study from more authoritative sources?

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She’s an idiot, but completely emblematic of the present-day brain-dead republicans who are routinely elected to office time after time. Can’t we do better than morons such as this?

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This broad would probably vote for a nazi as long as he claimed to be Christian. what a bass ackward, southern, bigot. Even though I am not a Romney supporter, I support his right to run for public office.

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I am more confused.Did man create God?Or as Bible teaches God created man in(Gods father/son likeness)?Someone states Abram(Abraham) had more than one wife.Do not remember more than one.I know he had intercourse with Hagar(with Sarahs permission) Ishmael born.After Sarahs death may have had other wives,Sarah was1/2 sister to Abrham. Need to re read, all above from memory hope correct.

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Zinger,

Have you ever stepped back from Christianity and thought about some of the things that must be taken on faith? Virgin birth, Resurrection, Eucharist, Trinity. Not to mention miracles and other assorted supernatural phenomenon.

Seriously, all religions sound nuts to someone not in the religion. Do I think that Joseph Smith dug up some tablets in the desert? No it’s preposterous but if you apply logic to any religion you quickly realize that 90% of the world is insane.

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Its amazing how the GOP is so divided among moderates and true conservatives. If republicans think they can win with Newt or Santorum then prepare for 4 more years of Obama. Their only chance is Mitt Romney. end of story.

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I have a sister and niece who are Mormons, and have lived among them in three different states for over 25 years. They are better behaved and generous almost to a fault. If they mention religion, all one has to tell them is you do not want to discuss it and that individual will not mention it to you again. If all or most people professing to be Christens conducted themselves as Mormons our entire country would have negligible problems compared to crime, unwed mothers, and most social problems that cause and create so much consternation. Mormons, Baptists, Methodists, etc., are all Christians. This is like dissing someone for being bald, tall, short, fat, skinny, whatever. The people who will not consider voting for a Mormon due to their religion is either ignorant, bigoted, or just stupid.

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We’re dealing with economic crisis and a war in Afghanistan. These morons going on about faith need to get a life and deal with real issues. My relationship with God and how I worship is none of their business.

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Gfyhimr,

We get it. Mormons are great people. I had two Mormon partners in my last company and I would trust them with my life or my wife. I would vote for either of them for president.

That said, the founding of the Mormon religion is a bit of a stretch. Maybe because it is within modern memory that it just seems so silly. And one more thing that is a real sticking point for me.

Joseph Smith, L.Ron Hubbard, Muhammad – they all set out to create religions. Jesus did not.

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Many good reasons to vote against Romney. This is not one of them.

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Read your American History! Have you ever heard of the Mormon War? The Mormons kept moving further and further West in order to practice polygamy. Finally the US sent Gent Albert Sidney Johnston with an army to route them out of Utah. The Morons Indian allies massacred wagon trains on behalf of the Mormons. Please don’t take my word for it. Research American History.

I like my Mormon neighbors but I know that they are separate from Christianity. And I will vote for Romney if he is the one runnning against Obama.

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Excuse my misspelling of Mormon. It was not intentional.

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I am appalled, and ashamed to live in a state where such an idiot narrow minded uneducated sociopathic person can become a member of the legislature.

The horror that anyone would say such these days. Proves the old adage, open your mouth and remove all doubt as to whether you are a fool….

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No offense taken on the spelling. The early members of the LDS church were tarred and feathered. Their homes burned, wives raped and children terrified by our “Christian” brothers. They moved west because of the brutal treatment. It was not because of polygamy as you say. It was because they were prosperous in every town that they settled because they worked hard. Another reason was that they were anti-slavery and the residents in the states where they resided feared they would vote as a block to end the slavery being practiced in their communities. The killing of innocent people in ONE wagon train that you refer to was called “Meadow Mountain Massacre”. It was a very sad time in the churches history. There was a paranoia among the members in that area because of the torture that they had endured before coming to the Salt Lake valley. They were wrong. Horribly wrong. As we all know…..people fail. We pray that the Lord will forgive those who murdered innocent families. The LDS church does not give any excuse for what happened. Read unbiased US history. Did you know that until a few years ago there was an extermination order law set up by governor Boggs? Do you still want to perpetuate the hate mongering against the LDS church members?

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Mormonism is a cult. So be careful America who you choose.

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This why this country is the laughing stock of the whole world.You can run your country into a pile of debt,lie under oath,be the most crooked politician out there,but as long as they are”christian” or faithful to their wife,the rest doesn’t matter…

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OMG….What we presently have is a student of “reverend wright” who spewed hatred for whites over a 25 yr period…but, God forbid, to say or remind anyone of this …is pure racism! WHAT A JOKE!!!

So, please give me a Mormon any day!!! and a businessman as well..sounds like a winning combo to me!

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Enter your comments hereWhy are we only talking about her comments on Mormonism? She is totally gay bashing. Newt has a gay sister. Cheney a gay daughter with a child ..and he supports gay parentage, Bill Byrne..now running for Cobb Commish chair again as a Republican. Are only the select few Gop’ers allowed to be supportive of gays? It’s 2012…enough with the bigoted homophobic politicians.

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Here’s my question to Romney concerning his faith.. Explain to me how you were a high ranking member of a faith that up until you turned 37 believed that African-Americans were cursed people and unworthy of either church membership or church ranking??

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I say Mormonism is a cult. Don’t care how many adds they run.

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@ Chicago
If you expect an honest answer, you better start by asking an honest question. African-Americans have always been accepted into LDS church membership since the 1830’s. It’s true they didn’t hold many leadership positions until 1978.

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tired of this country

January 4th, 2012
7:04 pm

The world was not laughing when GWB was President, especially the terrorist nations. They are laughing now because Obama is in charge.

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guessing her point was how much he’d rely on his religion in passing laws and running the country.

Keep ALL the religion out of the public discourse. Everyone is free to worship as they choose, but even in the US there have already been a couple civil cases by which judges relied on sharia law to let men off the hook for spouse abuse. Sorry, that’s bad news for everybody. Whatever she meant she was right about the massive change and loss of civil rights to certain citizens if the US embraces islam in considering the passing of laws.

while the repubs should have spent the last two years making sound policy towards the countries economy, the first thing they had to do was get all messed up with the whole abortion thing all over again.

NEITHER PARTY of the standard two party system represents the vast majority of the country. Including the mormon candidate fixated on the bondage of women. His record on his religions views of women and his disdain for letting what he does come to light by his example of destroying the records of his tenure in office disqualify this dude from running as pres of the PTA let alone the highest office we have.

You read it here first, but I guarantee you by 2020 repealing laws that prohibit one wife will be facing the court. And it will create the same underclass of citizens by men who procreate beyond their ability to provide or even care just as it does in countries that allow it now. The class of unwanted and uneducated poor kids who are where the ranks of terrorist organizations find their adherents.

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This is precisely why I would & could never be republican cause it seems like all the idiots gravitate to this party – no exception!

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The article was probably put on here to get the debate started. remember that Odumba was a Muslim and went to a racist black man’s church (Jeremiah Wright) that gave the Khadafi loving black racist supremacist Nation of Islam’s own beloved Louis Farrakkklan an award? All was proved untrue but what the heck.

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What an idiot,,, would you rather have a non-believing communist in the WH? Give me a break,,, go bury you head in the dirt…

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I think she should have said, ‘equal to being Scientologist’.

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And how many wives did Solomon, et al have?

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People, people, people…

Mormons may be great people but their religion is fake and unless they accept Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior, then they will ultimately die and spend eternity in a literal place called Hell. A place completely separated from God.

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@David….

Your list of Mormons believe this, and Christians believe this is interesting….

How about this…. there are probably 999,999 different christian denominations in this world, and I’ll bet you couldn’t get many of them to agree on all aspects of their religion.

Here is what I think…. Anyone who believes in Jesus is a Christian.

I don’t think I want to face Jesus after this life and tell him that it was I who decided who could rightfully call him their own. I’ll leave that to him.

Instead of spending twenty minutes thinking and typing differences between your definition of Christianity and Mormons, how about you take that same time and think of someone you don’t like or think you have differences with and think of something nice about them and call them up and tell them. I think Jesus would appreciate a Christian act like that.

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WOW!! That’s embarrassing.

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Hey Brian,

It’s interesting to me that I can sit down and talk with visting Elders or a High Priest and discuss these different beliefs. They have no problem saying we believe differently on these issues. It is the doctrine of the LDS. Joseph Smith founded Mormonism on the belief that Christianity was apostate.

But when the discussion about these different beliefs is public there are lots of denials.

My guess is that the LDS is aware that the doctrines that separate them from Christianity are not easy to accept without “proper preperation”. I can talk with a practicing Mormon about the doctrine that teaches Heavenly Father was at one time not a god but was able to become exalted and achieve his god state and have them say I’m lying and then come back a week later after talking to someone at Temple and tell me I was right; they just hadn’t been taught that yet.

I believe the point of this news article is not whether Mormons believe the right thing, or whether or not they are good, hard working people, but whether or not the teachings of the LDS church can have an effect on the chances of a leading member of their faith to be elected to the highest office.

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Interestingly enough, the mormon ads got started because Mormons don’t advertise about how religious they are. shouting about how religious you are is actually considered poor taste and bad religion. So Mormons in general don’t go bragging about how Jesus is their Savior. In the LDS faith, how one lives their life is indication of how well they follow the Savior, not how loud they talk about it. And because of that, there are probably lots of people that have no idea they even live next to Mormons. The “I’m a Mormon” ads are to counter the idea that we’re living in sects and compounds. We’re normal people just living our lives and helping our communities.

Sadly, I run into people who spout stuff like this unfortunate woman all the time.

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Now you’ve done it

January 4th, 2012
8:22 pm
Soon living in Georgia will be just as embarrassing as living in Florida or Texas.

I promise you that you will not be missed if you decide to leave and go live with people you agree with politically. Now, ND has help wanted signs everywhere if you are looking to get off welfare.

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Men with more than one wife:
Abraham (Father of Israel)
David (wrote most of the Psalms)
Newt (dumbass Judy Manning’s candidate of choice)

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Mormons..the food we keep in our basements and the genealogy track we have to Adam..you people best understand…. Mormon is not the mainstream, we focus on procreation, $$ and if you are not one of us- – a MOTT (”member of the tribe)…that’s ok, but no heaven for you….. now go to bed!

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An elected official makes a statement and this then becomes:

Embarrassing to GA,

Embarrasing to those who wished they lived elsewhere,

Somehow a Republican Party issue – remember this is one person who is not speaking for her party.

A Tea Party issue – please keep those idiotic thoughts to yourself as you ask of Judy Manning.

Judy Manning would vote for the KKK candidate – really? now that is a stretch.

This has been a condemnation of Christianity by those who apparently do not understand Christianity or are just looking for an excuse to vent their own ignorance and frustrations.

Most here need a reality check. Ms. Manning speaks only for herself, not Republicans, not Georgians and not Christians. If you truly wish to take someone to task other than Ms. Manning then go to her district and abuse her constituents. Or even campaign against Ms. Manning if she stands for office in the future.

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Of course there will be a discussion. Romney thought he was pretty slick to start airing those “I’m a Mormon” ads, but the truth is in the pudding: Mormonism is a cult and the group has beliefs that are weirder than Islam or Hinduism. Namely, how is Mitt gonna convince evangelicals in South Carolina that Christ survived execution and ended up preaching to the ancient Aztecs a few days later?

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Who needs a governor or the Georgia legistlature when we have Queen Manning The Bigot to decide what’s right for all of us.

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@look before I Leap

Simply because someone considers themself a Christian does not make it so; however, if they have accepted Jesus as personal Lord and Savior of their life then they are a Christian (Christ Follower).

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Can’t wait to see how JIm Galloway lights the fire in his next article.

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No, what’s truly amusing is to see the posts by anti-religious bigots who so enjoy playing the role of amateur-theologian as they exhibit their zealous, almost mindless adherence to obsolete pseudo-academic positions.

Having never really bothered to read the Biblical record for themselves, they happlily recite what others they consider more knowledgeable than themselves have spoon fed them, or they pre-judge the record as fictional and use their lack of understanding of what it actually says as a pre-tense to make it say whatever they wish to assume it says. Talk about brainwashed mumbo-jumbo!

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JMG 10:56P

By changing 3 words in your manifesto, I make the case AGAINST your position. Not that either one is right or wrong, just pointing out the total weakness of your argument.

No, what’s truly amusing is to see the posts by RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS who so enjoy playing the role of amateur-theologian as they exhibit their zealous, almost mindless adherence to obsolete pseudo-academic positions.

Having never really bothered to read the Biblical record for themselves, they happlily recite what others they consider more knowledgeable than themselves have spoon fed them, or they pre-judge the record as FACTUAL and use their lack of understanding of what it actually says as a pre-tense to make it say whatever they wish to assume it says. Talk about brainwashed mumbo-jumbo!

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By the way, I’d like to make you all aware of the official definition of what a “Cult” is:
cult   [kuhlt]
noun
1.a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
2.an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.
3.the object of such devotion.
4.a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
5.Sociology . a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.

So yes, by the official definition, Mormonism is a cult, but then again, so are Catholics, and Baptists, and Presbyterians, and Methodists, and Jehovah’s Witnesses, and Muslims, and Jews….. you get the point. Pretty much EVERYONE is a part of a cult. Congratulations!

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No one should vote for or against Mitt Romney based on faith but I think they should be informed…. Do your research:
http://www.askamormon.com/do-non-mormons-go-to-heaven.html
http://www.exmormon.org/
Kolob
There are three degrees of glory-celestial, terrestial, and telestial(3 heavens & the Outer Darkness)
Secret Handshakes & Secret Temple names
Golden Tablets
Jesus and Satan are brothers
“Sacred not Secret” but never talk about it outside the Temple

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1) Vote for a political candidate based on political idealism, not religion.
2) Mormons are Christian by definition.
3) There are a lot of silly lies and rumors out there, I’m still surprised to hear them and LOL every time.
4) You probably would crap your pants if you read the Bible…
5) Also note that there are more than 10 “common” Bibles, and not all are based on the same original texts. There are thousands of “original” texts, some deviating by single words or letters.
6) Get off your damned high horse. We are the USA I hope we can act like it, and not be so ‘anti’ everything from race to sex to religion to orientation. Love people for who they are.
7) I am a Christian and pay high respect to my religion, and any other practicing “Mormons.”
I do not currently support Mr Romney or his policies, and know many others of my faith that lack trust in him, and others that love him, and others that couldn’t care less. (In other words, every spectrum of like to dislike.)

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Yeah…. Abraham and Jacob had plural wives and God made his highest covenant with them. Don’t Christians want to be a part of the seed of Abraham?

A polygamous seed?

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Mitt Romney has spent his life consistently LIVING the teachings of the New Testament (Bible). He has not only lived a moral life, but he has remembered the poor and reached out and served his fellow man with his free time.

He has raised a good family who adores him.

Mitt Romney is the ONLY candidate with all of the right qualities for this election cycle. Democrats know that HE is the hardest one to beat.

Please help your Christian friends gain the right perspective and help them discern that Romney is the best choice for this time.

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I love it, always hearing about how we “need to get back to Jesus” when his alleged followers can’t even agree on anything.

Maybe you need to look at yourself before telling everyone else what to do.

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“As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached?” (1 Cor. 14:33b-36 NIV)

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Is Judy Manning her real name? No one would would write something that ignorant and use their real name.

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Yes, Mormons believe nutty stuff, and yes, they can be christian in their own way at the same time. Ok, mormons are basically forced to go out of their way to overcome 100+ years of maligning and persecution. At the end of the day, Mitt’s a very normal guy with extremely well honed skills that make BO look like a lib amateur.

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Thank you David for clarifying what YOU think a Christian is. Thank goodness your authority to define “Christian” is recognized by neither man nor God.

I am a Georgian, a wife, a mother, a sister, a friend and a Christian. I am also a Mormon and proud to be so. I am happy to allow you to exercise your free agency and worship as you please without trying to define for others whether or not you are a Christian. Apparently you missed that little verse in the Bible that says “Judge not”.

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