Herman Cain and his wife’s permission
Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain, with his wife Gloria in the background, salutes the crowd before announcing the suspension of his campaign. AP/David Tulis
In the end, Herman Cain’s wife, the diminutive woman he said held the key to his future as a presidential candidate, was a case of misdirection.
For days, Herman Cain had told the friendly faces on cable TV that he would head home to Atlanta for a face-to-face discussion with Gloria, his spouse of 43 years – the woman he first romanced with a movie date at Lenox Square, but who had declined to become part of his political quest.
Without her support, Cain said, his Republican campaign would collapse in the face of a new allegation that he had engaged in a long-time affair with another woman – a charge that he had denounced not just as untrue, but unproven.
So on Saturday, a very specific question hung over the new state headquarters for the Cain campaign, a storefront operation close enough to I-85 in DeKalb County to catch the breeze created by the traffic. Would Gloria Cain be there? Several hundred Cain fans were given two hours to mull the situation over.
Kay Godwin and Pat Tippett drove more than five hours from south Georgia to be there. If you are a politician in Georgia interested in winning a statewide race, you know that the two women are the fulcrum for thousands of Republican votes below the gnat line.
Godwin has known Cain for 20 years. She thinks the sexual accusations against him are hogwash, a creation of a fearful Republican establishment and the liberal media. But on Saturday, during the waiting, she also declared that she thought that Cain had been ill-served by his national staff.
“Pat and I have the 1st Congressional District. We have 26 of our 29 counties already organized. We have a conference call with them every Tuesday night,” Godwin said.
Cain supporters in south Georgia had come to two conclusions. “No. 1, if he doesn’t get rid of [campaign manager] Mark Block and those people surrounding him, he’s going nowhere,” the GOP activist said.
That included Atlanta lawyer Lin Wood, who, in Cain’s defense, had issued a letter declaring that what two consenting adults do behind bedroom doors is nobody’s business.
Demand No. 2, Godwin said, was for Cain’s wife to be by his side that afternoon. “We can stand behind him and know he’s telling the truth if his wife stands behind him,” she said. “If she’s not going to be there – I’m driving five and a half hours from south Georgia up here for somebody whose wife isn’t going to cross town to stand by him?”
At 1:30 p.m., the bus with Herman Cain’s face on it pulled close to the headquarters. The candidate was the first out. He held out his right hand, and helped his wife down the stairs.
“Gloria! Gloria!” the crowd shouted, their hopes lifted by her presence, as she and her husband came to the stage. Block, the campaign manager with the famous cigarette habit, stood silently in the background, holding Cain’s trademark black cowboy hat.
The candidate spoke of the remarkable distance he’d traveled from his birthplace, on Pelham Street in Atlanta’s old Fifth Ward, the son of a maid and a Coca-Cola chauffeur.
He was one of a trio of men in line, on the Republican side, to become the most powerful figure in the world. Add President Barack Obama for good measure, he said. “I’m in the Final Four. We’re in the Final Four.”
But Cain admitted that the last few days had caused irreparable damage. “That spin hurts. It hurts my wife. It hurts my family. It hurts me. And it hurts the American people, because you’re being denied solutions to our problems,” he said.
But he wanted the crowd to know this: “I am at peace with God.” And then Cain pointed to the woman behind him. “I am at peace with my wife. And she is at peace with me,” he said.
The hopeful chants began again. “Gloria! Gloria! Gloria!”
“That being said,” Cain continued – and finally pulled the rug out from under the grand opening of his campaign headquarters. He would suspend his campaign, he told a stunned and befuddled crowd.
As it turned out, Gloria Cain’s permission wasn’t the key to continuing his candidacy. Her husband admitted that, in the wake of five weeks of scandal, his contributions had dried up.
But his wife’s presence was absolutely essential to Cain’s ability to retire from the field with his reputation intact – so that he might maintain his influence as a Republican player.
For Cain, Plan B is something called thecainsolution.com, a place on the Internet where he can still push his “9-9-9” plan. The Stockbridge entrepreneur will follow the lead of Sarah Palin, and attempt to become a political persona who operates outside the political process – as his campaign tried to do, but failed.
“One of the reasons that I ran for president of the United States was that so I could change Washington D.C. from the inside,” he said. “Plan B is that we’re going to have to change it from the outside.”
And with that, the Saturday crowd began to drift away, perhaps to their TV sets. The Bulldogs were still an undefeated possibility.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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vuduchld
December 3rd, 2011
5:08 pm
WHO CARES!
GOOD RIDDANCE, MAGGOT
Last Man Standing
December 3rd, 2011
5:34 pm
I can’t help but believe that a terrible injustice has been done to Mr. Cain. I still believe him to be an honorable man who has been brought down by his opposition with lies. Unlike the myriad of charges against Bill (I never had sex with that woman) Clinton, there has been no SWORN testimony offered against Mr. Cain. None of his accusers (who identified themselves) have offered to take a polygraph. I would imagine that his accusers have suddenly experienced a degree of financial enrichment. To the ONE person responsible for these allegations, I will only say that my prayer is that you do indeed reap what you have sewn.
SSDD
December 3rd, 2011
5:43 pm
Another low down cheating man! When will they ever learn, lol!
Gman
December 3rd, 2011
5:47 pm
As Herman “Silas” Cain goes down in flames, his supporters remain in denial! Life is GOOD…
Sick of Republicans
December 3rd, 2011
6:00 pm
No I am not a Cain supporter but it amazes me to no end that you Republicans will stand behind Newt and documentation has proven what he is and not stand behind Herman Cain where NO documentation to the accusations has ever been produced. Guess you all must love your slime balls. Tell Newt to send his granddaughter in to be a school Janitor the pig that he is he probably would do it too. Newt is worse than Bill Clinton could even dream of being.
sheepdawg
December 3rd, 2011
6:02 pm
newt’s next
Straight Talk
December 3rd, 2011
6:02 pm
His opponents [Republican Old Guard and the Democrats] thought they could derail Cain with the first group of allegations of sexual harassment until the facts about the accusers came out. When that didn’t work – and Herman’s contributions increased and he was #1 in two recent polls – it was inevitable that they would trump up something else, This new woman had an affair with Herman Cain in her dreams. She has no credibility given the facts in her background [and when is the media going to ask who is paying the legal fees of her lawyer since she is supposedly unemployed and struggling financially?]. I have followed Herman for years and have met and talked with him and his lovely wife Gloria. Herman is by far the best qualified candidate to lead our country out of the morass we are in now. He has a unique combination of proven leadership skills, demonstrated ability to turn around failing organizations (which our government is now), problem solving skills (asking the right questions and getting needed information before making a decision) and – most of all – integrity we sorely need in the White House. Were Cain nominated in 2012, then the voters would have the opportunity to live out Martin Luther King, Jr.’s vision in his ‘I Have A Dream’ speech and judge Cain and Obama “not on the color of their skin but on the content of their character.” It’s a sad day for this country that the media frenzy around false and unproven allegations can lead a fine man like Herman Cain to decide to pull his hat out of the presidential race as a candidate However, neither Herman nor his millions of supporters are going away…and we will continue to be a force to contend with in 2012 and beyond. As they say, ‘It ain’t over until the fat lady sings.”
Sister Sarah
December 3rd, 2011
6:02 pm
And so Cain (like Palin) will setup websites (already has multiple) and PACs so he can stand on the sidelines and siphon dollars from all these saps by parroting all the B-S they want to hear – “socialism”, “Obamacare”,”American Exceptionalism”, blah blah blah. Gone head bro Herm, MILK these fools for ALL they’re worth! LOL (though not with Herman, he’s LATWTTB)
Straight Talk
December 3rd, 2011
6:05 pm
Sister Sarah – Why don’t you talk intelligently so we can understand what you are thinking…instead of just foaming at the mouth.
George Lee
December 3rd, 2011
6:08 pm
We needed Cain like we needed lung cancer. “All that stuff twirling around in my head.” lolllllllll good riddance
tim
December 3rd, 2011
6:11 pm
BYE BYE LOW LIFE LOSER!
YOU’RE NOT PRESIDENTAL MATERIAL! YOU NEVER WAS OR WILL BE!
WHAT A COWARD……..
Karla Rove
December 3rd, 2011
6:12 pm
I continue to be astonished by the people who think the $80,000 paid out by the National Restaurant Association for two sexual harassment claims was for no apparent reason. We all know that money would NEVER have been paid out unless there was very significant evidence to support the claims. You are either naive or stupid to think otherwise.
Straight Talk
December 3rd, 2011
6:12 pm
George Lee – Nice job of trashing. When you decide to talk about the real, serious issues facing our country and how to fix the broken government in Washington, please post again with your insights.
Straight Talk
December 3rd, 2011
6:13 pm
Tim – Another intellectual giant’s post. LOL
tim
December 3rd, 2011
6:16 pm
What took you so damn long Hermie?
There was Slick Willy……
Now there’s Slimball Hermie
Run away Hermie before another woman shames your sorry behind!
Straight Talk
December 3rd, 2011
6:16 pm
Karla Rove – Your complete lack of knowledge of business is evident. Every day organization’s decide to pay settlements for frivolous and unsubstantiated lawsuits because they know it will cost them far less to do that than to go to court and win. NRA made the payments for that reason. Forget your conspiracy theory and smell the coffee.
Straight Talk
December 3rd, 2011
6:17 pm
Tim – Keep up the useless drivel and foaming at the mouth.
Alabama Communist
December 3rd, 2011
6:17 pm
More Breaking News On Herman Leaving Campaign On Trailsway Bus…A Reporter with Channel 45 Russian TV said he follow Herman and his wife to the Bus after his farewell address and heard loud whip like noises from inside the Bus.with a Women voice saying ” You sorry piece of Republican Newt, You open your mouth one more time, I will strip that Black skin off your Rear and ship you to a CIA dentention Fusion Center in South Philly. Now get to the back of the Bus and shut your lying mouth..”
Kenny
December 3rd, 2011
6:17 pm
Citizen Cain!!
Straight Talk
December 3rd, 2011
6:18 pm
Alabama Communist – Another piece of useless drivel. Go back to Alabama and stay there.
John Sulivan
December 3rd, 2011
6:23 pm
The venom that you read here is a reflection of those who mad up allegations against a great man. It is the same spirit.
double
December 3rd, 2011
6:25 pm
The pugs have no mercey,even on their own.They will never support an Africa American for POTUS.
twintbb
December 3rd, 2011
6:28 pm
Herman Cain is doing the right thing by suspending his race. However, I believe that the allegations are false. Now that Cain is out – GO NEWT !!! Newt will be the best to debate Obama and win. Newt is not perfect but a lot closer than Obama. Lets hope the remainder of the Republican race will be without all this nonsense. Go Newt !! Focus on beating Obama. . .
double
December 3rd, 2011
6:28 pm
AC we got to have a little humor.Can’t be business all time.
mysidehurtsfromlaughingsohard
December 3rd, 2011
6:41 pm
Herman needs to start his own comic book featuring himself as the idiot who keeps dreaming of becoming the president of the free world.
clem
December 3rd, 2011
6:43 pm
Suspend? A man with his supposed intregity would have either pushed on or withdrew as Tpaw did. Very disappointing.
MontanaBGreen
December 3rd, 2011
6:44 pm
Herman Cain’s enemies will woo the day they supplied all these un-proven accusations to the news organizations.
Like Palin — Cain will become a lighting rod and will keep the silent majority riled up and vocal.
They ( progressive radicals) think they have won something by making it impossible for Herman Cain to continue — He will just retreat a few feet and reload.
And like Palin will begin to be the voice for many of the next group of commonsense Conservatives that will kick some, or many, progressive radicals to the curb. They may have won this skirmish but nowhere near winning the war against Patriotic Americans.
Zadoc Paet
December 3rd, 2011
6:45 pm
Damn, I lost a bet to my girlfriend that Herman Cain wouldn’t drop out. He’s so defiant and was still acting like he was campaigning, that he never did. I’ll miss him at the debates the most.
POLL: was suspending his campaign the right move for Herman Cai
Vote: http://www.wepolls.com/p/5924534
Straight Talk
December 3rd, 2011
6:48 pm
MontanaBGreen – You are absolutely right. When someone is taking target practice at you and won’t quit [as the liberal media did in their ongoing frenzy about Herman Cain] it is smart to take down the target and regroup. I was there when Herman did that today. He did the right thing. As they say, “It ain’t over until the fat lady sings.”
LCarter
December 3rd, 2011
6:48 pm
Look, Cain will be more effective now that he’s out of the race and is returning to what he does best and what he did before his run – his radio and web shows.
But you have to admit, that he got hit with the exact same thing he did to Perry – unfounded attacks. Cain should have never gone after Perry joining in with the left calling him and attempting to paint him as a racist and then pointing fingers at Perry with no proof for the attacks on him…if he would have played it clean, many of us would have come to his defense…but instead, he fell by the same attacks/actions that he did to a fellow GOP candidate.
What ended his campaign was the inability to handle the same types of attacks he did to others.
ED
December 3rd, 2011
6:48 pm
You so called supporters of Cain need an evaluation ..Straight talk lets see whats in those 61 text messages big mouth..Wheres your big man when it comes to that polygraph?You people are the perfect example of why drugs should be abolished because you are high…
ComradeAnon
December 3rd, 2011
6:49 pm
Why is this a surprise to anyone? He’s doing what Huckabee did. He wants to become a bigger force in Republican politics, sell a lot of books, maybe get a radio or TV show. Nothing new here.
JD
December 3rd, 2011
6:49 pm
Unfortunately for Herman Cain, his actions long before he decided to run for office have derailed his campaign.
Straight Talk
December 3rd, 2011
6:56 pm
ED – Let’s do see what’s in those text messages and who sent them. And while we are at it, let’s find out who is paying the legal fees of White since she is an unemployed person who can’t pay her rent. And let’s discover who coached her so well to smoothly deal with the media like no ordinary citizen would be able to do. And let’ also look at the relationship between Sharon Bialek and David Axelrod, who live in the same building in Chicago. And let’s find out who really hired and paid the legal fees of her expensive attorney Gloria Allred. And let’s ask to see her financial records to see if there have been any large deposits to her account lately…or if a large new account has been opened in her name. After finding out these facts, then we can talk about the real story…not some sleazy swipe like post.
pierre gustave toutant beauregard
December 3rd, 2011
7:03 pm
If your lack of reasoning ability leads you to believe that Herman Cain is qualified to be the POTUS, you should be disqualified from participating in elections.
bart
December 3rd, 2011
7:03 pm
Cain’s supporters have definitely drunk the kool-aid. Of course he’s guilty of these allegations. Studies show that it is highly unlikely for women to falsely report sexual harrassment and affairs. Where there’s this much smoke, there’s bound to be fire. I feel sorry for his wife and children.
Tony
December 3rd, 2011
7:05 pm
Cain is a hypocrite who is not qualified to be President of the United States.
clem
December 3rd, 2011
7:15 pm
straight talk, i agree let’s examine those facts you laid out. with all the money the republican party has they should conduct the investigation and if it turns out it was axelrod and dems, it should be a shoe in for repubs.
i wonder if the shoe was on the other foot, would the repubs have done the same thing….given their past on willie horton, swiftboot, birther nonsense the answer is clear
Look before I leap...
December 3rd, 2011
7:19 pm
I am not a Cain supporter, never was.
I never thought thought he had a realistic chance at the GOP nod, much less the White House.
I don’t know if the allegations are true or not, but I highly doubt that they were instigated by the Dems or the so-called liberal media. If the claims these women were making were being directed by some outside agency, then I am certain it would be by certain factions within the GOP. A case of them eating one of their own.
Absent a late-entry dark horse candidate, the GOP race will come down to Gingrich and Romney. Neither of which are particularly palatable especially since Gingrich lacks any credibility on the “family values” plank in the GOP platform. Idealogues will gather behind Gingrich. Romney will likely lay claim to a significant portion of the moderates and independants which represents a real threat to Obama’s chances next November save for one thing:
We are in the middle of a very modest economic recovery and if this recovery continues to gather steam and strength and unemployment continues to fall, then both Gingrich and Romney are going to have an uphill battle.
Jesse
December 3rd, 2011
7:21 pm
Strange values. Herman is only accussed with no proof and is ousted. Dr. King was a philander and moral degenerate and is hailed as hero.
Serious Robuck
December 3rd, 2011
7:21 pm
Has anybody told you old boys that you’re just pathetic. PATHETIC. You have a truly conservative candidate in Huntsman who many of us liberals could vote for, but noooooooooooooo, you’re going to throw away the election on a fat, arrogant lying adulterer like Newtie.
You’re all fools. Obama will coast to reelection.
Look before I leap...
December 3rd, 2011
7:23 pm
Just an interesting coincidence. Today my odometer rolled over from 53,999 to 54,000
Just like Herman’s tax plan 999 to 000.
Sister Sarah
December 3rd, 2011
7:23 pm
@Straight Talk
I cannot imagine how difficult it must be for you to loose your hands from Herman Cain’s nutsack long enough to type all these shotgun replies to everyone on this blog thread who holds a position opposite of yours. Nothing is more apparent than your OBVIOUS affiliation with the Cain campaign, otherwise why would YOU be so RABID in your replies to people?? No one is “foaming at the mouth” (other than you of course). I like many took Cain as nothing more than a joke from the beginning.
One thing I know is a HUSTLA when I encounter one, and Herman Cain is most certainly a HUSTLA; trust that. Secondly, I know when a man’s running game on a woman, whether it be a floozy out here in these streets OR his wife, and none of that B-S Herman Cain is pushing about these women passes the smell test. Hide behind the “legalese” all you want. Herman’s been “tricking off” for a long time. Here is the “straight talk”… Herman Cain will never have an impact on my personal life; he will only milk the gullible using the same playbook that was most recently used by another schiestette that the GOP put forth. I have held the position all along, GOP wants to impress and make ME a believer, MAKE HERMAN CAIN THE NOMINEE!! Of course, we all know if we got the real “straight talk” on that, all the B-S about MLK’s “dream” would be realized as a bunch of B-S.
yellowdog
December 3rd, 2011
7:24 pm
a hypocrite, a liar and a legend in his own mind. yes, good riddance.
Look before I leap...
December 3rd, 2011
7:25 pm
@Jesse 7:21
Not to point out the obvious or anything, but Dr. King never ran for public office.
MrBingle
December 3rd, 2011
7:29 pm
“Poor Mr. Cain!” Did he hoodwinked millions of Americans, and made millions of dollars, in a few short months? “You can fool some of the people, some of the time!” He was destined to be in the race for the short term. The side show has left the building. Now let’s focus on jobs, housing, stock market, etc.
Frederick Douglass
December 3rd, 2011
7:29 pm
Herman Cain is indicative of what has happened to our school systems. This ill educated man didn’t deserve to be in the conversation about who’ll lead our country, yet there he was, sitting atop the polls for a while. Not long ago we elected an admitted C student to our highest office because he’d be a good guy to have a beer with…..good gosh! Along with focusing on revamping how we do health care, we also need to look at how we educate children. The Herman Cains,Sarah Palins, and Rick Perrys of this country shouldn’t be going around bragging about how dumb they are, and receiving pay and adulation for it.
Doug
December 3rd, 2011
7:36 pm
The very idea that this nothing was even considered as serious presidential candidate of a major political party is an awful commentary on the state of America today.
Look before I leap...
December 3rd, 2011
7:37 pm
Just a thought. Was re-reading the news reports of the announcement and it mentioned that Cain arrived in a Secret Service caravan (as did the reports of his return home last night). So I assume the detail was suspended and the agents re-assigned.
As I recall, the statute providing such protection to a candidate states that such protection is available beginning 120 days prior to the general election. Did I miss something and they moved election day up to May?
Do any of the other candidates currently enjoy Secret Service protection? If so, when that begin?
Look before I leap...
December 3rd, 2011
7:40 pm
@Frederick Douglass 7:29P
“The Herman Cains,Sarah Palins, and Rick Perrys of this country shouldn’t be going around bragging about how dumb they are, and receiving pay and adulation for it.”
You obviously don’t watch “Keeping Up with the Kardashians” (or any “reality” for that matter).
Straight Talk
December 3rd, 2011
7:50 pm
Frederick Douglass – Like most liberals you ignore or are unaware of the facts. Herman Cain has a bachelor’s degree in mathematics and a master’s degree in computer science from Purdue University, one of the top engineering schools in the country. Let’s hear about your educational credentials….
Look before I leap...
December 3rd, 2011
7:57 pm
@Straight Talk 7:50
Just a point of clarification, Herman’s Mathematics degree is from Morehouse College, not Purdue.
clem
December 3rd, 2011
8:00 pm
And I think Herman said he was rejected by
Tech and UGA, which back in the day it was not that hard to get into GA, but was somewhat hard to get into Tech, but not a wise move considering the draft back then.
findog
December 3rd, 2011
8:02 pm
Last Man,
You are right; another man brought down by ignorance and fear
Straight Talk
December 3rd, 2011
8:04 pm
clem – Another one of your ‘intelleigent’ posts…Blacks couldn’t get into GA or Tech back then…
Straight Talk
December 3rd, 2011
8:06 pm
Look before I leap – Your are correct about the undergraduate degree from Morehouse. I was not implying that is was from Purdue. His master’s degree from Purdue stands on its own merits.
ND
December 3rd, 2011
8:07 pm
Even if all the allegations are true, that doesn’t make Cain a bad candidate. People need to start understanding that a man’s sexual impropriety has nothing to do with his ability to lead and get the job done.
What DOES make him a bad candidate is his complete cluelessness with respect to every major political issue.
Michael
December 3rd, 2011
8:07 pm
Funny how when an African American took the lead the harassment claim first comes from, as Herm said, from the Perry camp. Then the Redumb machine kicked into high gear to rid itself of a potential AA Redumb Prez. An Obama/Cain debate would have been hilarious, though.
Straight Talk
December 3rd, 2011
8:08 pm
ND – You must be talking about Obama.
Look before I leap...
December 3rd, 2011
8:09 pm
@Straight Talk 8:04
And another one of your shoot from the hip posts.
GA Tech graduated its first black student in 1965.
Straight Talk
December 3rd, 2011
8:09 pm
Michael – An Obama / Cain debate would be hilarious since teleprompters are not allowed. LOL
pierre gustave toutant beauregard
December 3rd, 2011
8:10 pm
“The Herman Cains,Sarah Palins, and Rick Perrys of this country shouldn’t be going around bragging about how dumb they are…”
W. established the precedent…
Beth
December 3rd, 2011
8:12 pm
That Cain thought he could dupe the masses….hah! He’s a serial womanizer.
More, he’s a Narcissist who will never take any responsiblity for what he does: “it’s all lies”, ‘a conspiracy’, etc.
Well, he can’t keep his hands off women obviously. Some preacher.
One woman, ok, this could be a disgruntled person, but all these women????
Seems that his radio buds filled his head about his possibilities here: wonder if they knew about the women???
Bet it’s rather chilly in the Cain home tonight…or else Gloria turned a blind eye on the behavior of her husband for all these years.
Clinton’s actions were enough of a disgrace. Cain would be nothing more.
Look before I leap...
December 3rd, 2011
8:13 pm
@Straight Talk 8;08
Not a question of implying, you out and out stated it:
“Herman Cain has a bachelor’s degree in mathematics and a master’s degree in computer science from Purdue University”
Or perhaps it is just poor sentence structure. If so then is it safe to assume you did NOT graduate from Purdue (under or post)?
clem
December 3rd, 2011
8:20 pm
straight talk, you are a dumb f$ck!
clem – Another one of your ‘intelleigent’ posts…Blacks couldn’t get into GA or Tech back then…
http://desegregation.uga.edu/history/
if you understood what i said is the cain himself said he was rejected.
putz
Sister Sarah
December 3rd, 2011
8:20 pm
For the record, teleprompters are NEVER allowed at a political debate! Obama seemed to do PRET-TY well if I recall not only in democratic primaries but general election debates as well. What say you about that “Straight Talk”?? Or are you committed to riding the hyperbole train (excuse me..CAIN train) to the end of the line??
Herman….if you not the Republican presidential nominee, don’t blame the media…”BLAME YO’SSELF!!” Bbwwaaahahhahahhhhh!
Michael
December 3rd, 2011
8:21 pm
I have a Bachelors and a JD from UGA. GO DAWGS!
Look before I leap...
December 3rd, 2011
8:23 pm
@Straight Talk 8:09
Do you HONESTLY believe that Cain could beat Obama in a heads-up debate on any issue of national interest or importance?
I mean really now… it’s one thing to disagree with the Obama’s policies or dislike the man personally. It is quite another to delude yourself to the point where you think a man like Herman Cain whose sole claim to political fame was cornering Bill Clinton in a town-hall meeting in Kansas City, is in any way capable of finding success in defeating a sitting president (ANY sitting president).
Serious Robuck
December 3rd, 2011
8:27 pm
LMS, what happened to your boy Perry? Let’s see, first you chose TPaw, then Perry, now who, old buddy? Sad. Sad. Sad.
John
December 3rd, 2011
8:56 pm
Now he can focus full time on the book tour……
The Cain Train Has Left the Station
December 3rd, 2011
8:56 pm
@twintbb December 3rd, 2011 6:28 pm – Now that Cain is out – GO NEWT !!! Newt will be the best to debate Obama and win. Newt is not perfect but a lot closer than Obama. Lets hope the remainder of the Republican race will be without all this nonsense. Go Newt !! Focus on beating Obama. . .
********************************************************************
Be careful what you wish for! NEWT IS NEXT TO GO!
After what that arrogant, slimmy, racist said about poor children, HE WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT!
I pray EVERY NIGHT that Newt Gingrich is exposed for who he is. He is the lowest of the low. Anyone who says that poor children should clean bathrooms at 8 or 9 years old has a special PLACE IN H@LL!
Just like God exposed Herman Cain he is going to expose Newt.
When they get through turning over every rock and looking through all of Newt’s closets, ITS OVER FOR NEWT.
I will be back to tell you……I TOLD YOU SO!
Frederick Douglass
December 3rd, 2011
9:01 pm
Straight Talk @ 7:50
My educational credentials: Horrible segregated schools for 12 years, four years in the military, 2 years at a technical school, wowed them at UGA for three years and some change. The difference between myself and Herman Cain is that I value an education, the little education I have, was hard to come by. I can’t afford to not know that Spanish is spoken in Cuba, or that China has nuclear weapons, or to yuck it up about being a leader instead of a reader, especially when it’s questionable wheter he’s either. yes your man Cain is a hot mess, he has his money, and his women, but he has been royally exposed for the doofus that he is.
rahvi
December 3rd, 2011
9:07 pm
Now official- Uncle “Tom Cat” Cain and his ludicrous publicity stunt is over. He was nothing more than a stooge for the Tea Bag Bigots wanting to claim that they supported an “alleged” Black, as a means of disguising their blind hatred for President Obama. These inbred, White Trash racists motives were completely transparent from the beginning.
Breath taking arrogance, hilarious ignorance, and a history of adultery proved to be a toxic mix for this publicity hound. The fact that this adulterous Buffoon had been afforded Secret Service protection, at taxpayer expense, is an outrage. Good riddance Uncle “Tom Cat”- time to go back to telling the ladies about your 9-9-9!
Hypocrisy Runs In The Cain Family
December 3rd, 2011
9:08 pm
Gloria Cain is a bigger hypocrite than her husband Herman.
She knows that this man is not what he claims to be, but she will stand in front of hundreds of people with that sh*ty look on her face knowing that Herman Cain is GUILTY OF ADULTERY!
Shame on you Gloria Cain. What kind of an example are you setting for your daugther?
Dane Lusley
December 3rd, 2011
9:09 pm
I is hard to imagine Cain as a senior executive of anything ever. He was never a “business man” he was a corporate drone at Pillsbury and a influence pedaler. He never had a chance, regardless of the sexual harassment claims, which I do not beleive were a hoax. If so, Cain should have been filing slander claims against all of them. Hermy your 15 minutes are up, you were entertaining while you lasted. Tell me, you going to pay for your own “security” now and reimburse the 50000.00USD a day the taxpayer has been forking out for your “security”. Hypocrite.
Hypocrisy Runs In The Cain Family
December 3rd, 2011
9:13 pm
THANK YOU. BRAVO!!!
Tell the truth and shame the devil.
Last Man Standing
December 3rd, 2011
9:13 pm
Look before I leap…:
“We are in the middle of a very modest economic recovery and if this recovery continues to gather steam and strength and unemployment continues to fall, then both Gingrich and Romney are going to have an uphill battle.”
Quit watching the mainstream media and reading newspapers like the AJC. It would be a good idea to be a little distrusting of the numbers offered up by the federal government. I don’t know which country is experiencing the ‘modest recovery’ , but I’ve got a clue for you: it ain’t America. The Federal Reserve Bank has loaned in excess of $7 trillion to banks around the world while our national debt continues to rise.
All is well, go back to sleep . . .
clem
December 3rd, 2011
9:13 pm
straight talker, straight talker, clean up aisle 5!
rahvi
December 3rd, 2011
9:13 pm
Straight Talk- you are an absolute, fuc_ing White Trash Moron.
Local Gal
December 3rd, 2011
9:18 pm
No evidence?
1. WAGA TV saw a phone bill with 61 calls/texts between Ginger White and Herman.
2. they called the so-called private number and HERMAN ANSWERED
3. He admitted that he GAVE HER MONEY
4. He admitted that he “knew” (in the biblical sense, apparently) for 13 years but never mentioned her to his wife. My husband meets a lady friend ONCE and he tells me.
5. He is mentally off – stating he is one of the four most important black men in the country? Ego-nut much? Believable?
6. He has lied repeated on TV – says one thing, then another, on all topics
7. First he didn’t remember any harassment charge. Then he kinda remembered. Then he remembered that money changed hands, etc. etc. That is lying.
8. What kind of candidate does NOT have his wife campaigning for him? The Bill Clinton kind, I’d suggest?
9. Ginger White CLEARLY had bank account evidence, plane ticket stubs and such on Herman or he would NOT have admitted to giving her money. The evidence will eventually come out.
10. Why does a person lie? Because THEY HAVE DONE SOMETHING WRONG.
Those that say he was railroaded – how do you justify the above facts?
My guess: you are poor critical thinkers and as the OP mentioned above, you shouldn’t be allowed to vote. Newt is as big as a scum and a rude Yankee to boot. Time to take him down also.
Hypocrisy Runs In The Cain Family
December 3rd, 2011
9:18 pm
Oooops! @rahvi December 3rd, 2011 9:07 pm – Uncle “Tom Cat” Cain and his ludicrous publicity stunt is over. He was nothing more than a stooge for the Tea Bag Bigots wanting to claim that they supported an “alleged” Black, as a means of disguising their blind hatred for President Obama. These inbred, White Trash racists motives were completely transparent from the beginning.
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Tell the truth and shame the devil.
THANK YOU.
BRAVO!!!
Frederick Douglass
December 3rd, 2011
9:26 pm
LMS
“It would be a good idea to be a little distrusting of the numbers offered up by the federal government”.
Who in hell offered up the numbers when Dubya was in office? Am I missing something, did we get the unemployment figures for our country from Mexico prior to Obama’s election?
frankie
December 3rd, 2011
9:29 pm
cain cheated on his wife; why would he quit because of an accusation; as a wanna be president, he would have to deal with much more than that; he quit because he couldnt lie his way out; a 13 year “friendship” your wife doesnt know about ? giving another woman money for 13 years and your wife doesnt know about it ? after 13 years of “helping” her in hotels across the country, he never thought she would bring this stuff out. he should have promised to make her vice president to keep her quiet; his wife would the “second lady”.
sparta_bubba
December 3rd, 2011
9:35 pm
Help me to get this straight? Republicans can’t support Sperman Cain because of allegations of sexual misconduct. Right? The standard bearer and anointed one is now Newtie Gingrich? Didn’t I read something somewhere about him and how he cheated on all of his wives and carried on multiple affairs with wives of his friends? Didn’t I recently read something about him getting caught receiving oral sex in his driveway from a friend’s wife?
So I understand the party of Family Values is stepping away from ole “Stepin Fetchit” Cain, but is running in droves to “Ole Faithful” Newt Ginghrich?
Surely I read something wrong?
Look before I leap...
December 3rd, 2011
9:36 pm
@Last Man Standing
Wow. So if you don’t get your numbers from the goverment or main steam media, just exactly where are you getting YOUR facts?
I’m serious, please submit some economic indicators and their sources that contra-indicate my statement.
If you can’t do so, then you may want to consider just admitting that you don’t like the message and what it portends for the GOP and resume your ostrich like posture.
clem
December 3rd, 2011
9:44 pm
look before i leap, given lms and s.t. logic no wonder the republican primary resembles a circus….they have a proven conservative in huntsman but he can’t move the needle, my guess because of his religion….now trump goint to moderate a debate, you can’t make this stuff up
This is too funny
December 3rd, 2011
9:50 pm
I just like seeing an arrogant liar get a reality check.
This is too funny
December 3rd, 2011
9:53 pm
Lets be honest, nothing to do with politics, but is anyone really tryin to say he didnt cheat on his wife?
Cammie
December 3rd, 2011
9:57 pm
If you are poor, it’s your fault.
If you are unemployed, it’s your fault.
If you cheat on your wife, with a woman 20 years younger than you who is poor and unemployed its the liberaaaaaaaal media and those evil women’s fault.
Yeah, I’ll buy that for $9.99.
Hey Cain why didn’t you tell Ginger to blame herself, get a job, instead of paying you paying her bills for 13 years like you told the Occupation Wall Stree Protestors???
BRW
December 3rd, 2011
9:59 pm
LMS is a FAUX NEWS roving reporter. Excuse me, raving mad reporter.
clem
December 3rd, 2011
10:06 pm
newt said you don’t have to know anything to be a fox analyst
Cammie
December 3rd, 2011
10:17 pm
Since Mr. Cain withdrew from the campaign, then he must surely resign as Co-Pastor at Antioch Bapist Church because one thing’s for certain, hypocrites can lie in the pew but should never lead from the pulpit.
Look before I leap...
December 3rd, 2011
10:30 pm
@clem
I don’t know why Huntsman can’t get traction.Can’t be his religion as Romney is also Mormon. Maybe two Mormon’s is 1 one too many?
Mostly, I think Huntsman’s issues are money related. He has some pretty serious restrictions on his sources of money. His dad is filthy rich and funding a PAC that is currently running some ads in NH, but I think junior is trying to avoid a Kennedy-esque image of daddy buying the election.
Perhaps his tenure as Ambassador to China under Obama hurt his conservative creds.
He had some serious success in Utah as govermor with regards to job creation and tax reduction.
He has Mormon values with respect to the linchpin of the GOP “social values” plank (abortion) but while he is against gay-marriage, he supporst gay civil unions (a GOP no-no). He also believes that health-care reform is necessary and does not repudiate Obamacare on a wholesale basis (another GOP no-no).
I’d like to hear more from the guy with respect to federal fiscal policy, but we have wasted too much time on the likes of Herman Cain and 9-9-9 and No No No and Newt’s astounding declaration that he is not Jesus Christ.
Bootnewt
December 3rd, 2011
10:32 pm
Cain sure reminds me a whole lot of Elmer Gantry.
Look before I leap...
December 3rd, 2011
10:35 pm
@clem
Politically, the one thing that emotionally taints Huntsman for me is that he is the one who stood up at the GOP convention and nominated Sarah Palin as the VP candidate. That is so visceral for me, that were I in a position to ask him just one question, I’d ask him if he regretted that.
OBAMA 2012!
December 3rd, 2011
11:36 pm
OBAMA has been honest, fair and transparent! He’s for all mankind!
ANGRY AS HELL
December 3rd, 2011
11:41 pm
If I hear one more time how liberals and Democrats were responsible for Cain’s fatye, I’m going to scream. Look, no self-respecting Democrat or liberal would do anything to sink Cain. He’d be THE preferred Republcan candidate for Obama to run against. Obama would destroy Cain in any presidential debate on any issue. Cain was ill-prepared to be the next president of this country. If you want to look at who was the source of the leaks on these true stories regarding Cain’s propensity to commit sexual harassment or engage in long-term extramarital affaors, look no further than your heroes in the Republican party. They had a real interest in knocking Cain out of the GOP race of candidates. Boo hoo !!!
Paddy O
December 3rd, 2011
11:50 pm
old days this was called a whisper campaign. American women have not changed much. Pay them enough, and they’ll say just about anything.
Paddy O
December 3rd, 2011
11:51 pm
angry as hell – you must be living there as well if that is your honest assessment. Keep the head in the sand, buddy boy.
strategy?
December 4th, 2011
12:01 am
just maybe Cain won and the accusors lost?
just what tabloid is now going to pay for negative stories of a non-candidate?
imagine after proving them guilty Cain re-joins the campaign? he’ll not only get the sympathy vote but he will get the backing of majority conservatives.
this could all be strategy. he IS a mathmetician; remember?
BILLY MAYS HERE
December 4th, 2011
12:13 am
Reality: It’s What’s For Dinner
John D
December 4th, 2011
12:17 am
The Republican Presidential Candidates and the support they receive is exactly what’s wrong with our country, but they want to blame Barack Obama. Newt and Cain obviously showcase how unmoral and unethical they are but preach “morals” and “values”. Michelle Bachman and Rick Perry don’t even know a damn thing about government and what America has been involved in for so long. Michelle’s “If I am president there won’t be an U.S. Embassy in Iran when there hasn’t been one in more than 30 years.” and those are the folks that want to run our country??? Mitt Romney is so far disconnected from the average American that it isn’t even funny.
In addition one major problem with us Americans is that we are very ignorant, gullible and have no substance. We voted Obama in office for “Change” but “Change” is not easy and it is not suppose to be “comfortable” plus we expect Obama to fix things immediately. We are just now seeing the results for his work with employment rate going up regardless what Fox News reports. The economy to flop took 8 years under the Bush Administration and it flopped in 2007 but the effect materialized when Obama took office.
You can deny it but looking at the candidates that which is filled with Adulterers, Cheaters, and Liars pretty much lays it all out.
strategy?
December 4th, 2011
12:24 am
what i got from the announcement was that Cain felt these stories were hurting his wife whom he obviously puts first. i never heard him admit to any affair. if he did someone needs their reality examined.
Tonya
December 4th, 2011
12:29 am
Herman could have gotten his cell phone company to go back and get him details on his text content to show there was nothing in them like he said. Would have been easy to show the world if there was nothing to hide. I feel let down, I thought Heman represented my wants for our country. Stinks! I have a hard time going for there was no affair. If a man can’t be trusted to be faithful to someone he loves how can he be faithful to my vote. Why can’t men keep it in their pants? I just can’t get over someone running for office with skeletons in the closet, they will come out.
strategy?
December 4th, 2011
12:29 am
if Cain is guilty of these things he is definitely not presidential; conservatives do not roll that way but if these are trumped up accusations i do hope these women are exposed to the fullest. meanwhile no one has proven anything yet. still she says, he says.
strategy?
December 4th, 2011
12:34 am
Tonya i agree with you 100% re running knowing of one’s past. it is so unfair to people who put trust and time into getting a person elected; however, we cannot call this man guilty at this point imo. i will not let him off the hook if he is guilty but for me this is still a little suspect.
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
12:48 am
hey HERMAN hows Life on the repuican plantation../..buh bye
ANGRY AS HELL
December 4th, 2011
1:31 am
Paddy O — You’re the one with his head in the sand. You are under the impression that Democrats and liberals would have wanted Cain out of the race. Hell, no. Politically, he’d be the best candidate for Obama to run against. Newt would be the next best one. Now, even Cain complained that Rick Perry’s camp was the source of the initial leaks on the sexual harassment claims leveled years ago against Cain, and on Friday morning, even Neal Boortz corrected a caller who was quick to blame Democtats and the “liberal media” for Cain’s woes. Boortz said, “It could have come just as much from Republicans as from anyone else.” If you don’t believe me, why not contact Boortz and ask? Get YOUR head out of the sand, fool.
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
1:38 am
HEY HERMAN PIMP CAIN,HOws life on the republican plantation?
ANGRY AS HELL
December 4th, 2011
1:39 am
What Cain is looking for now is a chance to make a fortune like Sarah Palin beinmg a FOX News “analyst” and going on the speech circuit getting suckers to pay good money to hear his bull$#1+. Look what Sarah’s done. Only in America could a complete ignoramous who can’t utter a coherent sentence make a fortune selling her so-called conservative philosophy to a bunch of suckers. Bill Buckley must be turning over in his grave. Cain will do the same as Sarah. The GOP is really strapped for candidates.
Jackson Baer
December 4th, 2011
1:56 am
RON PAUL 2012!
Clear. Consistent. Honest.
http://www.whatthehellbook.com/the-book/
Judge Roy Bean
December 4th, 2011
2:02 am
“Sic Semper Philanderer!”
I expected Herman to spin this whole thing with Ginger White into a positive: “Yes, I was her “Sugar Daddie” for years. Haven’t y’all ever heard of “Sugar Cain”???
Z
December 4th, 2011
2:52 am
Herman Cain, just another snake oil salesman laughing all the way to the bank. You really can fool a lot of people all the time, that’s why we will always have these gifted motor mouths, there will always be those fools who will drink the snake oil…always!
BitterEXdemocrackkk
December 4th, 2011
5:19 am
the criminal democrackkks have again succeeded in bringing down a black man who is a threat to their agenda. democrackkks are EVIL. all of them…YOU TOO if you ARE one.
WHO'S LEFT ?
December 4th, 2011
6:00 am
how do we get rid of the other spear chucker?
Attack Dog
December 4th, 2011
6:04 am
Cain has never been a threat to the Democrats, and it is funny that someone would use “kkk” to describe today’s Democratic Party. Like Zell Miller said, the “Democrat Party” left the “KKKs” years ago.
Attack Dog
December 4th, 2011
6:07 am
I would hope that Ms. White is getting a payoff from the Democrats, or more likely Karl Rove, since her money train dropped her to run for POTUS. I wonder if Mrs. Cain came to an agreement or a settlement?
Attack Dog
December 4th, 2011
6:15 am
Cain is about as much a great man who pulled himself up by his bootstraps as one of the Cox sisters. Robert Woodruff was his benefactor from birth, he ruined thousands of lives pretending to be a CEO, cost retirement funds hundreds of millions of dollars as a corporate board, and been propped up by the Koch Brothers with the NRA, media, and his so-called candidacy.
dd
December 4th, 2011
6:25 am
I continue to be astonished by the people who think the $80,000 paid out by the National Restaurant Association for two sexual harassment claims was for no apparent reason. We all know that money would NEVER have been paid out unless there was very significant evidence to support the claims. You are either naive or stupid to think otherwise.
I don’t care. I gave up on the American political process long ago.
It seems to me that if Cain doesn’t have anything to hide, the agreement with the restaurant association wouldn’t be a problem.
Attack Dog
December 4th, 2011
6:27 am
Great man my foot. He dodged the draft and went to Purdue to keep his college deferments, stayed low while Jesse Jackson got concessions from Burger King, and then became a token with the company, and became Chair of a Federal Reserve branch, but had his 999 plan drafted by a Certified Financial Planner. The Republic Party in Georgia proved back in 2004 that they would not support someone like Cain, when they allowed Lynn Westmoreland to beat out Dylan Glenn, who is probably more qualified than Cain to be POTUS.
educated with common sense!!
December 4th, 2011
6:31 am
I sam so glad this Herman Cain circus is over!!!Where there is smoke there will be fire!!I do think these women that always come forward with these so call affairs with these men,make themselves look foolish, knowing that it take 2 to tangle!!!You knew he was married and you desided that you would milk him for what you could get.Makes you look like a fool and what ever else sleeky name you want to be call!! Just for records Herman Cain would not have won anyway, he is not smart enough on all the issues to run this country!!! We need a smart man in the white house to represent our country,we donot want to be the laughing stock by other countries,to say how dumb we are!!We have a smart man in the whitehouse now, that we should be proud of,he have worked wonders so far even with some people not trying to work with him, because of the color of his skin!1Yes he is a blackman,educated,smart,young enough to take and hold up to beening the president of this great country we call the UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!Don’t forget what a great family man he is!!I think as a country some of us like trashie people to run our country(sad).Some of us need to regroup to whatr is real!! C U around Mr Cain,doing anything else you want to do ,but please not PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!May God bless the UNSOA!!!
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
6:33 am
I know Herman Cain enough to know that he is too smart a person to undertake a run for President if he had these alleged skeletons in his closet, knowing what the media would do if they were ever found out.
I pity the women who felt the need to elevate their status in the media’s eyes as they have shown little in the way of being productive human beings in their own right, and needing to take down someone else in order to feel big themselves.
Either way, they now become footnotes that no one will ever remember, and Herman can get to making some serious money. He’ll be remembered long after his accusers are forgotten.
Attack Dog
December 4th, 2011
6:36 am
Cain is such a great man that, based on current logic, Johnny Isakson should be running for POTUS. Oh yeah, I guess it is an unfounded accusation that Cain made financial contributions to Democratic Senator Bob Kerrey.
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
6:37 am
“I continue to be astonished by the people who think the $80,000 paid out by the National Restaurant Association for two sexual harassment claims was for no apparent reason. We all know that money would NEVER have been paid out unless there was very significant evidence to support the claims. You are either naive or stupid to think otherwise.”
Or, as in your case, dd, you’ve never worked in a responsible position in a major business. These are called nuisance complaints, and the amount of money it would have taken to litigate these claims would have been far greater than the payouts eventually made.
Buckhead Boy
December 4th, 2011
6:38 am
Good news for all of you who continue to support Mr. Cain and a little bad news for the rest us. Since he “suspended” his campaign, you can put your money where your mouth is and donate and, come January, he can get federal matching funds from the rest of us. Also, you can donate to his lifestyle through his new and old con games. But before you do, I’d suggest you take a look at how the donations to his Herminator Pac have been used, because that even puts to shame the cons of those other Republican grifters, Sarah and Newt.
I truly felt sorry for the deluded supporters who turned-up for his event yesterday being invited to buy food from a vendor when they have dined, wined and lodged Mr. Cain so well over the past two years. I’m sure that they hadn’t made the trip to Atlanta in a corporate jet that they may have helped lease; and I doubt that many had even received one of the geejaws that they had helped buy from his company for the pretend campaign.
Attack Dog
December 4th, 2011
6:39 am
If Axelrod paid off Ms. White, why do I get the feeling that he has already told his wife, and you can be darn sure it will not be for the next 13-years.
clem
December 4th, 2011
6:40 am
strategy? hope you are on the jury if i am ever tried…wonder how many folks are in jail due to circumstantial evidence. guess they all need to be let go.
it would not have taken tons of money to prove ms. white wrong. he had a slimy camaign manager. and he had a good attorney supposedly. and if you like to give money to casual acquaintances without telling your spouse let us know.
don’t forget to leave milk and cookies for santa.
Honest Ingine
December 4th, 2011
6:49 am
Did not Newt have a lady 4-6 years ago, have the same skeleton in his closet? They all have, Kennedy, Clinton, Edwards, even the great MLK, had women on the side. Just wait until Obama’s camp leak out then they will all be on the same playing field.
clem
December 4th, 2011
6:51 am
tiberius, do tell us how much it costs on average for a nuisance case with just he said/she said evidence?
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
6:53 am
clem, you can’t run a campaign for President AND defend yourself against “he said / she said” allegations.
The truth WILL come out about these women, and they will not look too good when it does.
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
6:57 am
clem, the legal costs are simply staggering. At a minimum of $400/hr for a decent attorney, you’ll eat up $40k in less than a month’s worth of work on the case. And you haven’t even gotten to trial yet, which may take upwards of 2 years. All the while the accusation is hanging over your head.
Waste of time and money to defend these nuisance complaints.
Frederick Douglass
December 4th, 2011
7:06 am
Expect to see Herman roaming the streets and cul-de-sacs of Eagle’s Landing, wearing a raunchy bath robe, that gawd awful hat, and mumbling 9-9-9. The man’s done, nothing more to see here.
Buckhead Boy
December 4th, 2011
7:09 am
Tiberius,
I’ve worked in very responsible positions in major businesses and never witnessed a dime paid to dispose of a non-meritorious complaints, simply because to do so would invite more non-meritorious complaints.
You silly man. Do you even know that you have chosen for a screen name the name of a demented, old emperor who sexually abused little boys? Or, maybe you do, and that testifies to your disdain for complaints of sexual harassment?
clem
December 4th, 2011
7:13 am
thanks tiberius, you seem to know more than you are letting on…..if that is the case, mr cain with high priced attorney wood need to get on it because he only suspended his campaign. ross perot suspended his too back a few years ago and got back into campaign mode after several months. if he doesn’t get his name cleared, he will be forever the butt of jokes.
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
7:17 am
Buckhead Boy, I doubt you’ve worked in anything remotely near the top of any major organization, simply because you haven’t shown the intellectual chops on this forum to look at things objectively, rather than your typical one-sided view through a liberal lens. Nor, do I believe that you have ever consulted a lawyer in a case such as this. I have, not as one being accused, but being at the top of an organization where another person was.
Secondly, my screen name is not that of the former emperor of which you speak, and has nothing to do with him. Nor does my lifestyle or views reflect the history of which you use to dismiss my logical and well-reasoned replies.
Now, if you wish to discuss this openly, honestly and objectively, please do so. Otherwise, your diatribes and accusations mean nothing to me.
dcb
December 4th, 2011
7:23 am
Chalk up another one to the media -
clem
December 4th, 2011
7:29 am
tiberius, one more question. if it costs that much, how can the plaintiff pay for this knowing there is maybe only a 50-50 chance? i understand an attorney taking a case if they get lots of publicity and win, but cain was not a celebrity years ago when running the nra…..guess there were and still are desparate attorneys (who couldn’t be that good will do anything for a buck.
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
7:35 am
Plaintiffs usually can’t pay up front, clem, but there are still attorneys willing to take certain cases in the hope of a payday.
Organizations simply take a look at the people involved, their business, the costs, and determine whether the time and effort is worth it to pursue these cases. In many instances, it is simply easier, cheaper and better for the corporate (and corporate officer) image to settle these with confidentiality agreements and move on.
It is as much about optics as it is about the reality of the situation.
clem
December 4th, 2011
7:39 am
intriguing, do plaintiffs pay their attorney out of their settlement funds or does the defendant usually pay settlement costs plus opposing attorney fees…?
what a racquet!
clem
December 4th, 2011
7:57 am
guess mr. cain can now advocate tort and tart reform
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
8:02 am
Depends on the agreement reached, clem.
Buckhead Boy
December 4th, 2011
8:09 am
Tiberius,
Your assumptions are as incorrect as your argument is spurious. To quote Mr. Cain you are “confusing apples and oranges” — complaints lodged with an employer and lawsuits. The claims against Mr. Cain were of the former variety only. Major businesses carry liability insurance for the latter, and any decisions regarding defending against such are made by the insurer. In the instances involving Mr. Cain, we do not even know if a lawsuit was ever threatened, but we do know that the employer obviously found the claims sufficiently meritorious to itself dispose of them. Again, employers do not reward non-meritorious claims themselves or merely refer them to insurers, because either way the result will be more claims and more cost, whether directly or through premiums.
But, since you claim to know Mr. Cain, maybe you can explain the coincidence of him leaving his employment with the NRA immediately after the second and written complaint was lodged with that employer and a half year before his employment contract was due to expire.
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
8:21 am
“Major businesses carry liability insurance for the latter, and any decisions regarding defending against such are made by the insurer.”
Not even remotely true, Buckhead Boy, which once again shows you really were never in any position sufficiently responsible enough, as you claim.
“maybe you can explain the coincidence of him leaving his employment with the NRA immediately after the second and written complaint was lodged with that employer and a half year before his employment contract was due to expire.”
I would suggest you ask Mr. Cain. Or you may simply continue your biased attack on him and make another claim you know nothing abut.
tim
December 4th, 2011
8:23 am
DID YOU SEE IT? DID YOU SEE THE COWARD RUN?
Mr Cain had his chance to disprove all 4 sexual harrassment complaints. He mumbled stumbled and blamed everyone else. His affair? He ran like the wind.
He got caught and cowered behind chosen words.
BYE BYE HERMIN……you’re a lyin loser.
Sister Sarah
December 4th, 2011
8:37 am
@Look before I leap…
I can attest to you, that I saw and heard with my own eyes and ears just last week, John Huntsman tell an interviewer when confronted about introducing Sarah Palin as the nominee at the Repub convention that he “did what (he) was told to do”!! He acknowledged not really knowing Sarah Palin from Eve. The RNC picked him to do it and he was given the script to do it. When answering the question, he was politically correct, but his BODY LANGUAGE conveyed that he was totally embarrassed and regretful in retrospect in doing so.
Having said all that, while the kooks on here would label me a “liberal” (well, I guess I AM; I am FREE of mind to think whatever the h3ll I desire. Strange how that works), J. Huntsman is exactly the type of candidate who I would have no problem with whatsoever if he were elected President of the U.S. He is obviously a very pragmatic individual who would govern with a high degree of intellect and political knowledge. Furthermore, it would be an outstanding competition between he and Obama on all levels. Right wingers are SOOO mentally challenged.
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
8:52 am
Ah. The “conservatives are stupid and liberals are smarter than everybody else” argument.
Way to have a supposedly intelligent discussion, Sister Sarah.
A dad
December 4th, 2011
8:56 am
To all those discounting Cain for lack of experience, what experience did the current POTUS have when taking the job. Law school (oh yeah, that’s realism), community organizer, and a first term senator. Cain at least has sustantial real-world business expereince, something sorely lacking in DC. I’m not sure I would have voted for him in the primaries, but he was a bit of a breath of fresh air from Obama, ROmeny, Gingrich, and all the other beltway insiders who would never have changed anything if elected.
Jackie
December 4th, 2011
8:57 am
The media can’t get enough of attacking Cain but looked the other way with an open, current affair that John Edwards had while his wife was dying of cancer. Without the National Enquirer ( of all rags) we still would not know about Edward’s affair. While Galloway and the media want to dissect Cain, we shoudl all remember their silence for so long about John Edwards.
A dad
December 4th, 2011
9:01 am
Dear Boy – don’t know where you’ve worked and all, but as a defense lawyer I can tell you first hand that insurance company’s have their business models for various types of claims/lawsuits. Discrimination claims are very costly, and to try one to conclusion may take over a hundred grand and there is no guarantee of success (and yes, I have seen mertiless claims win, and claims with merit lose). 80k for two discriminationclaims is peanuts. It’s “don’t go away mad just go away” money. Funny thing though. With all the lastest allegations from Cain’s “mistress,” why has some enterprising invesitigative journalist dug into all these trips she claimed to have taken, etc. Trips, purchases, etc., all leave a record. Heck, my investigator could track all this down in less than a week. Funny no one is seeking to establish the truth on thisone.
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
9:06 am
A dad, I can guarantee that Herman Cain will be vigorously pursuing the issue of this latest accuser to show she’s lying. Since he’s no longer a candidate, he can focus his attention on clearing his name.
And Herman can be very, very focused.
@left1
December 4th, 2011
9:19 am
The left could not have a conservative black man run against their socialist black man. The electorate my see the truth about Oblama. The dragged every trailer park in the country to find bankrupt women who thought they could make some money off lying about Herman Cain. He will not be silenced. Their reprehensible behavior will be revenged.
Straight Talk
December 4th, 2011
9:28 am
They tried to derail Cain with the first group of allegations of sexual harassment until the facts about the accusers came out. When that didn’t work – and Herman’s contributions increased and he was #1 in two recent polls – it was inevitable that they would trump up something else, This new woman had an affair with Herman Cain in her dreams. She has no credibility given the facts in her background [and when is the media going to ask who is paying the legal fees of her lawyer since she is supposedly unemployed and struggling financially?]. I have followed Herman for years and have met and talked with him and his lovely wife Gloria. Herman is by far the best qualified candidate to lead our country out of the morass we are in now. He has a unique combination of proven leadership skills, demonstrated ability to turn around failing organizations (which our government is now), problem solving skills (asking the right questions and getting needed information before making a decision) and – most of all – integrity we sorely need in the White House. Were Cain nominated in 2012, then the voters would have the opportunity to live out Martin Luther King, Jr.’s vision in his ‘I Have A Dream’ speech and judge Cain and Obama “not on the color of their skin but on the content of their character.” It’s a sad day for this country that the media frenzy around false and unproven allegations can lead a fine man like Herman Cain to decide to pull his hat out of the presidential race as a candidate However, neither Herman nor his millions of supporters are going away…and we will continue to be a force to contend with in 2012 and beyond. As they say, ‘It ain’t over until the fat lady sings.”
Chunichi
December 4th, 2011
9:28 am
The rationale offered for ’suspending’ his campaign was so flimsy and lacking in candor that only the most hardcore, blinder-wearing Cain sycophants will buy it. The ‘liberal elites’ caused me to cheat on my wife…indeed.
I am disappointed in Herman, but glad that the system worked – his true character was revealed before he had a chance to do any real damage.
Southern Belle on the West Coast
December 4th, 2011
9:35 am
Cain’s hat is not a cowboy hat. It’s a pimp hat. Good riddance.
clem
December 4th, 2011
9:42 am
straight talk, after proving you wrong on desegregation (which took all of 3 minutes on google in addition to watching cain himself declare he was not accepted at uga/tech)…you are either lazy or definitely not a straight shooter. or not too intelligent. which is it?
tim
December 4th, 2011
9:46 am
@straighttalk Your boy is a coward and a quitter. Look at him crawl back under that little rock.
clem
December 4th, 2011
9:48 am
a dad, i agree that mr. wood and a crack investigator could investigate this in fairly short order….sorta like mr cain had 10 days before politico released their story…i am baffled? if it was your name or my name on the line and i had the resources mr. cain has, well…..
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
9:49 am
Chunichi, do you actually believe that someone can continue to run a viable campaign for President while these allegations are hanging over their head? If you were falsely accused by people for doing things such as this, wouldn’t YOU want to clear your name?
So why do you consider his “excuses” to be “flimsy”?
He never, ever claimed that liberal elites caused him to cheat on his wife, and you know it. In fact, he’d denied EVERY allegation against him, including cheating on his wife.
You should try being a bit more open-minded, and less partisan when giving your opinion on something.
Straight Talk
December 4th, 2011
9:53 am
clem – You continue attempting to disparage Herman Cain’s intelligence and education. Like most liberals you ignore or are unaware of the facts. Herman Cain has a bachelor’s degree in mathematics from Morehouse and a master’s degree in computer science from Purdue University, one of the top engineering schools in the country. Let’s hear about your educational credentials….
clem
December 4th, 2011
10:06 am
avoiding my question….all i did was point something the candidate himself proclaimed in an interview. just as folks on right point out obamas educational record, which i agree is somewhat spotty at undergraduate level (ie not much info), i was merely providing context. i have bba from ga state, and was deemed eligible/acceptable by tech for their mbaprogram but stayed with gsu. how bout yours slick?
i also served in military which somehow cain avoided by getting a civilian job with the navy….
bottom line is your were wrong, and now just trying to change subject.
Please
December 4th, 2011
10:19 am
Cain is a buffoon who has no sense of personal responsibility. I knew when I read that his staff was not allowed to speak to him till spoken to that he was an arrogant, self-centered, pompous jerk who believes he is better than everybody else. Guess what… you’re not Herman!
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
10:21 am
clem, really? Cain “avoided” serving in the military by getting a civilian job with the Navy?
Are you now disparaging every civilian worker in the Armed Services as not serving their country?
Maybe you should just quit wile you’re behind on this one, OK? As they say on ESPN, “C’mon, man!”
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
10:23 am
“I knew when I read that his staff was not allowed to speak to him till spoken to”
And just where did you read that little nugget of a falsehood, Please?
Not even remotely true.
Sister Sarah
December 4th, 2011
10:23 am
@Tiberius
Reading IS fundamental you know. Because I do consider myself a fairly intelligent individual I ALWAYS choose my words carefully. If you are so bold, PLEEASE revisit my post; I SPECIFICALLY stated “RIGHT WINGERS”. I said nothing about liberals being smarter than “CONSERVATIVES”! Now if you so much as feel that you can run side by side with me in this argument (or any) step up!!!
Marko
December 4th, 2011
10:30 am
I have no doubts that had Herman not backed out, within a week or so another accuser would have popped up alleging he raped her. It’s the Clarence Thomas special. The opposition figures all they need is one woman alleging harassment and the candidate would withdraw. When that doesn’t happen the charges escalate. Seems like Anita Hill came up with a new allegation every day the Thomas confirmation went on. I feel sorry for Herman, but I feel even sorrier for our country. Herman was the only candidate who spoke like a person, not a politician.
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
10:31 am
Sister Sarah, there would be no side by side running with you, as you couldn’t keep up with me.
ANYBODY that disparages an entire class of people as being of lesser intelligence as you did is an elitist clown. And since you proclaimed yourself as a liberal, and distinguished yourself by pointing out that liberals are capable of free thought while others are not, you’re simply engaging in the usual “Liberals are just so much smarter than everybody else” mantra, that only liberals can do with such disdain for everyone else.
Nice try, but your elitist transparency shines through.
The REAL GodHatesTrash, Superstar
December 4th, 2011
10:32 am
Gloria has known for a long time she’s married to a hound, she did this to keep the Fox talkshow and speaker circuit alive. Believe it or not, there are groups of idiots that will shell out five figures to see Herman’s minstrel show.
The REAL GodHatesTrash, Superstar
December 4th, 2011
10:36 am
Herman will do fine, folks.
He’s the GOP’s Al Jolson, except he’s a black man doing blackface comedy, playing a shuck-and-jive huckleberry – who’s really an accomplished conman.
clem
December 4th, 2011
10:36 am
Tiberius, mr. cain got his degree from purdue while serving as navy civilian while others served our country in a more direct fashion…..folks i knew back then tried to get in the guard or rotc(to hopefully delay)active military service, again providing context. to those physically incapable of combat, fine to serve in those capacities….but i do have bias for all the chickenhawks both parties….
And speaking of behind your answers have been less than convincing, so maybe you ought to follow your own advice.
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
10:42 am
Nice dodge, clem, but it doesn’t wash.
Are you asserting that serving your country in a civilian fashion in the Armed Services is not worthy of being called “serving your country”? Are those who provide civilian service any less honorable than those who wear the uniform? How effective do you think our military would be without civilians, clem?
You seem quick to disparage someone on the right for their accomplishments, even when their accomplishments help our country’s national defense.
Strange . . ., yet all too typical of the closed-minded.
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
10:43 am
“Gloria has known for a long time she’s married to a hound”
Really, superstar? Got some proof, or do you just like to post unfounded speculation?
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2011
10:43 am
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
8:21 am
“Major businesses carry liability insurance for the latter, and any decisions regarding defending against such are made by the insurer.”
Not even remotely true, Buckhead Boy, which once again shows you really were never in any position sufficiently responsible enough, as you claim.
Sorry Tiberius, but you are in error here. Most if not all publically traded companies carry Director and Office Liability Insurance as part of their risk management programs. While coverage, exclusions and limits vary widely, I can state, from experience as a group controller and member of the risk management team, that many if not most of these policies provide for protection against sexual harrassment claims.
Since the NRA is a lobby organization and not a publically traded companny, I don’t know if they had D&O Liability as the fiduciary responsibilities in such a organization are bound to differ from a public corporation.
I can also tell you, again from experience, that when a sexual harassment claim is made, an internal review is conducted, corporate counsel is consulted and while a determination of fact is not made, RMO will provide guidance on the following:
The accuser’s work history
The accused’s work history
History and disposition of any prior claims against the accused
Results of interviews with accuser, accused and any witnesses
Potentiality – were accuser and accused in close proximity at the time the harrassment is said to have occurred.
Recorded communication (emails, voice messages, text messages).
Only after this review is complete, is the insurer consulted and any discussion of settlement considered.
missing the point
December 4th, 2011
10:47 am
it wasn’t the allegations, it was his answers and comments that followed. it wasn’t the questions on Libya, it was his answers or lack of them that followed. cain, was only semi serious about running. his ego was fed by a couple of tea party get togethers and he choice to get in the kitchen. while others were in key states cain was in alabama selling books.
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
10:49 am
Look, while many companies do carry insurance, they rarely engage the insurance companies on the nuisance level complaints. Which is why my comment stands.
Spermin' Herman
December 4th, 2011
10:51 am
My brain was twirlin’ in that Libby-a interview!
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2011
10:53 am
Sister Sarah
December 4th, 2011
8:37 am
@Look before I leap…
I can attest to you, that I saw and heard with my own eyes and ears just last week, John Huntsman tell an interviewer when confronted about introducing Sarah Palin as the nominee at the Repub convention that he “did what (he) was told to do”!! He acknowledged not really knowing Sarah Palin from Eve. The RNC picked him to do it and he was given the script to do it. When answering the question, he was politically correct, but his BODY LANGUAGE conveyed that he was totally embarrassed and regretful in retrospect in doing so.
Sorry I missed that interview. Will see if I can find it on YouTube. It does beg the question though, why Hunstman would allow himself to be so coerced. Sounds a little like Captain Smith increasing speed of the Titanic at the behest of J. Bruce Ismay on that cold April night.
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
10:53 am
“it wasn’t the allegations, it was his answers and comments that followed.”
Uh, no, it was the allegations, missing.
You cannot fight a “he said / she said” allegation while running for President. And you certainly can’t fight them when there are confidentiality agreements that keep you from providing details. And you really can’t fight them when a new one comes out of the blue from someone you considered a friend.
Not in this political climate.
Unless you’re a Democrat. Then it never get reported.
clem
December 4th, 2011
10:57 am
You are pretty dense. During that era you had plenty of folks doing there best to avoid direct military service. I worked with plenty of army civilians who had previously served in military functions and their contribution was appreciated. Apparently, you did not grow up in that era….getting job in civilian component of the service was not usual and customary for male, sound bodied individuals… wonder how he pulled that off?
what’s the matter tiberius….lose your lightening rod?
Buck Hayek
December 4th, 2011
10:57 am
Democrats “don’t get reported”? That is nuts.
Dems ran their OWN out of office last year – Weiner and Massa were both told to leave by Democrats.
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2011
10:59 am
@Tiberius 10:49
” they rarely engage the insurance companies on the nuisance level complaints. Which is why my comment stands.”
Patently untrue. You are simply not entitled to use the corporate assets of a publically traded company to pay off charges of personal misconduct. Either D&O pays or the individual pays. CEO or not, he does not get to dip into the company till, at least not legally.
GaPatriot
December 4th, 2011
11:01 am
I asked my husband’s permission to pay for my GRANDDAUGHTER’S tonsillectomy before I sent my son the check. Of course he said sure, but the financial help would never be a surprise to him.
If he sent money to some woman “friend” one time we would be meeting at my lawyer’s office to discuss our divorce.
clem
December 4th, 2011
11:01 am
oh wait, his comments stand….what an arrogant putz. still waiting on staight shooter to respond…i’ll be back later..
td
December 4th, 2011
11:02 am
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
10:53 am
Keep up the good fight but you are not going to convince these libs because they FEEL he is guilty and that is enough in their books to convict. If they admitted Herman was a smart, intelligent African American and would be good for the country then they would have to really examine there own philosophy and they would realize that Cain was correct when he called them out about living on the white liberal plantation. Some of these on hear would rather die then to admit they have been under the control of and did everything their white liberal masters have told them to do for 50 years.
Sister Sarah
December 4th, 2011
11:03 am
Oh yeah. I’m an “elitist” (LMAO). You do such a GRRRREEEAT job of making my point. You are such an angry person you cannot see straight. Notice the context fool. “Right Wingers” speak directly to a faction of ideology that is extreme. “Right Wingers” are in fact those that like to throw around the term “liberal” as an insult, and as such waste no time in slapping it on anyone who does not subscribe to the extreme ideology 100% as an ad hominem device. Simply label someone as a “liberal” in an attempt to undermine the entire argument rather than debate the merits.
Now, the term “liberal” in and of itself (from the Latin “liber”) means FREE. Thus, the context in which I spoke. Let’s just look at the term “Conservative” by the way – to keep things the way they are. The very definition of it is anti-progress. Try and spin it any way you want. The biggest ideological fight in this country today between the two ideologies simply comes down to this, demographic shfts. At the very core of the conservative fight is the unwillingness to adjust to these changes because the majority demographic will inevitably see competition and POWER SHARING with other ethnic groups. Barack Obama’s election represents that clearer than anything else, and is what has so many RIGHT WINGERS burning up. Herman Cain has been nothing more than a stooge and always HAS been. I’ve been following this clown for almost 10 years now. He knows who butters his bread and as such loves to sit in front of them and grease his face up with it.
His little shuck and jive yesterday about his daddy being a chauffeur and his mama being a housemaid appeals solely to images of the time when Black folks had to be subservient to the majority demographic. Yes, there are many who take great delight in knowing Herman is so appreciative of the “good folk” who took good care of his mama and daddy, and him. They see Herman as a “good little boy”, and he plays it to the hilt.
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
11:05 am
“getting job in civilian component of the service was not usual and customary for male, sound bodied individuals… wonder how he pulled that off? ”
Exceptional knowledge and work skills, perhaps?
The point is, clem, you’re backtracking and not answering my questions, and you are engaging in idle speculation because you either don;t like Herman Cain, or don’t like Republicans.
Buck Hayek
December 4th, 2011
11:06 am
Right, Sister Sarah. Thus why the Imams in the Middle East are considered “conservative” – traditional, resistant to change, fundamentalist.
I am a proud liberal (like FA Hayek)
td
December 4th, 2011
11:07 am
GaPatriot
December 4th, 2011
11:01 am
If you would have stayed home for the past 40 years and your husband had made you over a $100 million and lavished you with the big house, nice cars and every other material thing your heart would desire then you would not think twice about him spending some money on other people. I am sure Herman has gave away more money in the last 10 years then your family has made in a lifetime. We can not take a middle class prospective when judging the spending habits of the rich. We can not even comprehend them.
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
11:09 am
“You are simply not entitled to use the corporate assets of a publically traded company to pay off charges of personal misconduct. ”
And yet, it doesn’t appear that the National Restaurant Association is a publicly traded company. Ooops!
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
11:11 am
“Shuck and jive”, Sister Sarah? Not only are you an elitist clown, you’re a racist to boot.
Simply amazing . . .
Buck Hayek
December 4th, 2011
11:15 am
“Shuck and Jive” was coined by blacks to describe obsequious behavior by other blacks in the presence of authority figures.
It fits Cain to a T.
td
December 4th, 2011
11:15 am
Sister Sarah
December 4th, 2011
11:03 am
“Right Wingers” speak directly to a faction of ideology that is extreme.”
Please tell us what is so extreme about wanting everyone to take personal responsibility for their actions? What is extreme about wanting the Federal government to live within its means? What is extreme about thinks Americans are smart enough and no better on how to spend their own money then to give it to the government to spend on programs that have never turned out to be best for the country as a whole long term?
It is more of an extreme position to want a person to become dependent on the government for their subsistence, housing, food and for the government then to tell them they can do no better then to continue to depend on government.
clem
December 4th, 2011
11:17 am
tiberius, your full of manure, i served in unit that had enlisted men that recently graduated from schools with degrees that likely made herman third tier. i am talking schools like tech, mit, and case western.
i voted republican before, w the first time, isaakson, and more open minded than you will ever be. i loved listening to buckley. i suppose folks like cain should be applauded for getting in the arena, but when it is apparent he lacks the knowledge and integrity to serve in that role, i will speak my mind.
I really have to go now….glad you think you are expert on legal and military service issues….why don’t your run.
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
11:18 am
Thanks, Buck, for raising your hand to acknowledge that you’re a racist, too.
It’s nice to see you libs finally coming out of the closet on your true feelings regarding racial issues.
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
11:20 am
clem, I have run. I’ve also served in an elected capacity, and in the military.
Running seems like a good plan for you. You’re clearly out-classed.
clem
December 4th, 2011
11:22 am
i doubt it…spell it out then
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
11:25 am
You doubt – what? And you want – what – spelled out?
clem
December 4th, 2011
11:26 am
i’ll be back tiberius….i am not running. besides, sister and look and buckhead have basically refuted most of your bs….look forward say around 1900
rudikkingme
December 4th, 2011
11:29 am
retardo-rama
clem
December 4th, 2011
11:29 am
your military service, branch, the years you served ie 1970-1972,your degree, generic office elected to…anything else you care to share…
back around 1900
Mike Licht
December 4th, 2011
11:32 am
Herman Cain ordered his campaign funds “to go,” With Pepperoni.
See http://wp.me/p6sb6-bKS
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
11:33 am
U.S Air Force, 1978-1982.
County commissioner, 2004-2008.
Don’t wait up for me. Some of us have real work to do.
Sister Sarah
December 4th, 2011
11:34 am
@Look before I leap…
It was “Meet The Press” with David Gregory. Time tick around 7:00 on the video. I must correct myself though, I stated wrongly that he ‘didn’t know Palin from Eve’. He actually stated that he was one of the few who actually knew anything of her (from his work with Governor’s Assoc.). But again, he clearly stated that he basically did what he was told for the team, as if he is now trying to distance himself from the action.
Fact: Herman Cain will NOT be the Republican nominee. (LOL)
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2011
11:43 am
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
11:09 am
“You are simply not entitled to use the corporate assets of a publically traded company to pay off charges of personal misconduct. ”
And yet, it doesn’t appear that the National Restaurant Association is a publicly traded company. Ooops!
A distinction you failed to make in your earlier post (8:21) when you dismissed Buckhead Boy in a rather cavalier fashion.
Ooops!
Sister Sarah
December 4th, 2011
11:45 am
There is absolutely NOTHING extreme about any of what you submitted on its face (even though it is empty rhetoric. I could decrypt all those messages for you if you’d like, all three statements basically say the same thing. That would require a history lesson though, and as we know not a lot of people like history, too much truth in it).
Here is what is “extreme” though, when your “concern” for such things lie DORMANT while irreparable damage is being done, and you only unleash such “concern” and moral outrage when someone who you do not like (for whatever reason) is in the driver seat. That is what makes you look “extreme”, because reasonable people with the ability to THINK CRITICALLY
Sister Sarah
December 4th, 2011
11:46 am
…clearly see the hypocrisy.
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2011
11:51 am
Tiberius
December 4th, 2011
9:49 am
Chunichi, do you actually believe that someone can continue to run a viable campaign for President while these allegations are hanging over their head? If you were falsely accused by people for doing things such as this, wouldn’t YOU want to clear your name?
Clinton did…and if I recall correctly, won.
Wonder how long before someone hauls out the tired ole wing-nut mantra of “liberal media” on that point?
double
December 4th, 2011
11:52 am
And some on here know TD is appealing for the black vote,by reminding us of the days gone by.Days as bad as they were,will continue to be better under the democrats.
Frederick Douglass
December 4th, 2011
11:58 am
td said @ 11:07 am
“We can not take a middle class prospective (msp.) when judging the spending habits of the rich. We can not even comprehend them”.
So are you in the habit of defending with every fiber of your being, something you cannot understand? Doesn’t your proclamation speak to the core emphasis of the OWS movement? The rich are maintaining their extreme Robber Baron lifestyles on the backs of an eroding middle class, and individuals such as yourself are merely hauling the coal as it were, for a furnace of lies and deceit that will never be sated. You sir are the epitome of conservatism, working feverishly for the rich, and against your own best interests.
wake up and smell the toast
December 4th, 2011
12:01 pm
he got out before the texts were released, and after paying people off. The texts at 4 in the morning would of been great sexting from a 65 year old beat up uncle tom who could not find Libya on a map, if that pizza place delivered there.
JustPlainOldBob
December 4th, 2011
12:04 pm
Herm. was not equipped to run this country anyway. Newt is the only one with the practical experience to do so. Obama has no experience, is self serving, is a clown, and has no leadership skills. Hopefully we will vote him out of office and he can be unemployed but richer for doing nothing.
rudikkingme
December 4th, 2011
12:11 pm
Obama will win a second term because the American People are used to having a leader. The GOP candidate, if picked from the motley group of traitors who comprise the field, will lose in a landslide that will rival Mondale’s lopsided loss.
And there’s no come back from this post. So don’t embarrass yourself, trolls. (and idiots)
honested
December 4th, 2011
12:18 pm
Now with hermie out of the way, a message to repugs,….
Please nominate the newt!!!
Give America the chance to show you just how far out of step you are with the Country you have pillaged!
Gee
December 4th, 2011
12:39 pm
This man is a total disgrace. I call him that- not just because he is a liar and misogynist- but because he is a complete, egotistical IDIOT. Mr. Cain could not come up with one word to answer to a question about Libya or any current event. If WSB-radio rehires this snake-oil salesman, they will hear from me and thousands of others.
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
12:58 pm
hey CAIN u need to get of the republican plantation, oh never mind they kicked u off,lol. buh bye
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
1:09 pm
well the minstrel show is over. i think he’ll go lon FOX NEWS and bash black people to make the godfearing racists (GOP) feel good
dom youngross
December 4th, 2011
1:21 pm
‘pug Cain took over from ‘pug Perry and ‘pug Bachmann to last long enough for ‘pug Gingrich to come along and pump some hot ‘pug air into the ‘pug balloon that was sinking fast with ‘pug Romney in it as designated ‘pug leader.
Obama and all the ‘pugs. Keep em.
Ron Paul 2012. No more Obama. No more ‘pugs.
The latest indication that Paul has been right for the job all along:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-28/secret-fed-loans-undisclosed-to-congress-gave-banks-13-billion-in-income.html
rudikkingme
December 4th, 2011
1:54 pm
Cain must love the ‘cain.
snort much? he certainly acts like it. Did anyone notice how disappointed his mistress in Atlanta looked as she was forced to remember their trysts? Cocaine has that effect on the male schlong.
ew
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2011
1:58 pm
wake up and smell the toast
December 4th, 2011
12:01 pm
he got out before the texts were released, and after paying people off. The texts at 4 in the morning would of been great sexting from a 65 year old beat up uncle tom who could not find Libya on a map, if that pizza place delivered there.
Well, after yesterday’s announcement by Cain, the only person who will be interested in the content of those text messages is Gloria’s divorce attorney.
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2011
2:19 pm
JustPlainOldBob
December 4th, 2011
12:04 pm
Herm. was not equipped to run this country anyway. Newt is the only one with the practical experience to do so. Obama has no experience
What practical experience are you referring to?
td
December 4th, 2011
2:19 pm
Sister Sarah
December 4th, 2011
11:45 am
I am sure your version of history will be totally different then mine.
“Here is what is “extreme” though, when your “concern” for such things lie DORMANT while irreparable damage is being done, and you only unleash such “concern” and moral outrage when someone who you do not like (for whatever reason) is in the driver seat.”
Talk about revising history. Did you happen to listen Sean Hannity or Rush in 2004 and 2005? They were on the radio almost everyday talking about Bush not following the conservative philosophy. How he was a really nothing more then a big spending liberal. Why do you think the Dems took back the House in 2006? When do you think the Tea Party movement started? I will give you a hint, it was prior to Obama taking office. True conservatives have been saying for years that we have a spending problem and the progressive Republicans have been ignoring us.
So your statement about being extreme is false on the evidence. The problem is most of far left refuse to look at others sources of information other than the “main stream” liberal media.
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
2:24 pm
@td
more rightwing bs. the PEE PARTY started because OBAMA is black. u can spin it anyway u see fit. if HILLARY had won then there would be no PEE PARTY.
Hide-n-seek
December 4th, 2011
2:26 pm
Let me see if I got this right: White stated that this was not prostitution. She admitted that she received money. Is she saying that they did not have sex?
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
2:27 pm
i guess NEWTS the new golden boy now. i’d love to see the party of “family values” nominate this wh@remonger,lol. i guess they’d nominate a child molester if They think he could beat OBAMA.
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
2:29 pm
HERMAN will be forgotten like a old christmas tree discarded after the holidays, since the GOP has no more use for him.
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2011
2:30 pm
@td 2:19
Ya know, I agree we do have a spending problem in this country. But simply, we are not going to balance the budget on spending cuts alone and we certainly are not going to pay down the debt without increasing tax revenues.
The adherence to the tea-party (read Norquist pledge) concept of no new increases what-so-ever is not going to address the problem. It plays well for the Rushheads and Hannity Hysterics but it is unrealtistic unless you go after Social Security and Medicare and that simply is not going to happen.
td
December 4th, 2011
2:31 pm
honested
December 4th, 2011
12:18 pm
Now with hermie out of the way, a message to repugs,….
Please nominate the newt!!!
Give America the chance to show you just how far out of step you are with the Country you have pillaged!
This is what you libs pray about all day long. Please, dear Lord make this next years election about anything but about the job Obama has done. It is the only way Obama can get re-elected. This strategy is going to difficult to Carry out and it will make next years campaign the dirtiest in modern history but who knows since Obama has almost a billion dollars of Wall street, unions, lawyers and the movie industry to spend. Let us not forget the media will be the good little helpers that the Dems need to bash the Republican nominee.
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
2:37 pm
@td
yes the birthers will be out in full force,lol. come 2012
td
December 4th, 2011
2:39 pm
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
2:24 pm
@td
more rightwing bs. the PEE PARTY started because OBAMA is black. u can spin it anyway u see fit. if HILLARY had won then there would be no PEE PARTY.
I am calling BS on you. Herman was one of the first and founding members of the Tea Party movement. He was being the keynote speakers at rally on Tax day (around April 15th) from 2006 forward. Go do a little research and stop the racist BS. I am sorry that you did not start paying attention to the world until Obama was elected but believe it or not there was a world out there.
Sister Sarah
December 4th, 2011
2:50 pm
OK @td. I will engage in a little LIGHTWEIGHT “exercise”, because you are in fact a lightweight.
“When do you think the Tea Party movement started? I will give you a hint, it was prior to Obama taking office. ” (that was YOUR quote by the way)
FOR THE RECORD, the Tea Party Movement began WHEN PRESIDENT OBAMA TOOK OFFICE! It was a culmination of much of the outrage and anger that resulted from various groups of people who (quite simply) just did not want to see the man as president. You know…this is when people started to show up to presidential speaking events carrying ASSAULT RIFLES talking about “2nd amendment rights”, when 2nd amendment has never even been a focus of this administration. This was during the time where I couldn’t even go to Walmart to purchase a single box of ammunition to go to the range because of all the looney tunes nutbags buying it all up in bulk for the ‘”SHTF” scenario, with their overly paranoid @$$ez! Now I will give you the chance to retract your claim with some text:
“leaders within the Tea Party credit Seattle blogger and conservative activist Keli Carender with organizing the first Tea Party in February 2009″.
Now please do not force to commence putting a bust down on that @$s by continuing on with the nonsense dribbling from your lips.
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
2:54 pm
@td 2:39
so what if CAIN was the keynote speaker! whats that suppose to prove? the PEE PARTY was started because a black man is in the whitehouse. i dont care how many sambos ya’ll trot out to speak.
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
2:58 pm
HERMAN is just aNOTHER hypocrite who preach family values but had little of it himself. his wife looked stupid and sad as she tried to look supportive yesterday. now the whole world knows her husband chased white women while he had a beautiful blk wife at home.
td
December 4th, 2011
2:58 pm
Look before I leap…
December 4th, 2011
2:30 pm
Did you know you can take every dollar made by the top 1% in a year and not even cover the deficit? This tells you we have a spending problem and not a revenue problem. Ever since the 1980’s people have been saying SS would run out of money when the baby boomers retire. SS, Medicare and Medicaid has to be reformed if you want to have anything left 20 years from now.
Hot Dog
December 4th, 2011
3:00 pm
Tiberius
I am curious. Where were you stationed in the Air Force and what county were you the commissioner for?
U.S Air Force, 1978-1982.
County commissioner, 2004-2008.
Sister Sarah
December 4th, 2011
3:01 pm
…and furthermore @td (I wonder if that stands for too dumb by the way?), the democrats took those seats in 2006 primarily because of backlash aimed at a Republican party that was mired in multiple scandals (bridge to nowhere, Mark Foley, etc) as well as many Iraq and Afghanistan war vets who ran for political office on a platform of raising awareness about the true plight of our veterans and how they were being neglected by the Bush administration, ESPECIALLY considering they had been committed to a war that many of them believed to be unjust. Now, revise THAT “history”??
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
3:02 pm
pretty soon the GOP will drop CAIN like a bad habit. after all hes black and now he’s useless to them. he came out firing when he started campaigning by calling blacks brainwashed. that elevated him to cult status by racists(gop) .THE gop gets a nut when a conservative blk bashes other blacks,lol.
Hot Dog
December 4th, 2011
3:03 pm
Gloria Cain will NEVER leave Hermie even though she knows he loves WHITE and very fair women. She is too hung up on material possessions and her mode of living. Don’t think for one moment she did not know about Hermie’s philandering. She has her own hookup, spending his money!
td
December 4th, 2011
3:05 pm
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
2:54 pm
@td 2:39
so what if CAIN was the keynote speaker! whats that suppose to prove? the PEE PARTY was started because a black man is in the whitehouse. i dont care how many sambos ya’ll trot out to speak.
2005 an 2006 were prior to Obama taking office and it is when the Tea party was started. I will give you that Obama being elected brought all the indiviual groups together and made it a national moverment but it was started prior to Obama taking office. The movement did pick up momentum when Obama took office but it had nothing to do with race. It had everything to do with Obama being graded as the most “progressive” Senator, Pelosi being the speaker and a super majority in the Senate.
Please stop the racist BS. It is not going to work any longer in politics and just makes you look stupid.
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
3:06 pm
what would happen if OBAMA took a surplus and squandered it on 2 wars. what would happen to OBAMA if he couldnt protect AMERICA the way BUSH couldnt on 9/11? BUSH was tricked by a terrorist and repubs say this rube was strong on defense. what are they smoking? they hate to admit that a black man is doing a better job than BUSH could ever do.
Hot Dog
December 4th, 2011
3:09 pm
Goodby Hermie! Too bad you got caught up being PIMP DADDY! Now we can really get to the real choice of Republicans, Newt..The lying philander. I am sure that stamp tramp # 4 is waiting in the wings once his campaign gets under way. In the end, it will Mitt and Rick. Remember you read it here first! SO speaks HOT DOG!
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
3:11 pm
td
why do conservsatives hate progressives? i thought progress was good? conservatives want to keep things the same, which is impossible.
td
December 4th, 2011
3:18 pm
Sister Sarah
December 4th, 2011
2:50 pm
Thi is right off the Tea party website:
“There are many who would love to take credit for the birth of the Tea Party Movement, but the actual credit for the movement is still under debate. One version dates back to 2007 on the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party when Ron Paul’s presidential campaign raised over 6 million dollars in one day and as a result, the Tea Party was born.”
The Tea Party came out of the anti tax day events and have been around for years. The movement was local and did not go into a national movement until after Obama was elected and money was pumped into organization by the Koch brothers and their political sub groups.
Hot Dog
December 4th, 2011
3:19 pm
Mrs. Hermie wanted the truth and he could not promise her that no more skeletons would not fall out of the closet. That’s the real reason he suspended his campaign. She has already been embarrassed by this buffoon. I say, if these women are lying, then why don’t he sue them for slander? I’m sure the truth will come to light and everyone will know what a lying scumbag he is!
td
December 4th, 2011
3:20 pm
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
3:06 pm
By taking over total control of 18% of the economy makes the two wars we were in look very small in comparison.
td
December 4th, 2011
3:25 pm
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
3:11 pm
Go back and trace the roots of the progressive movement? Look at how the socialist/communist in the 20’s and the 30’s took over the movement
Do you not hate communism? Do you not hate socialism?
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
3:27 pm
@td
the wars may be small to you, but not to the men and women who served and died in it. but you dont care about them anyway, do you.
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
3:28 pm
@trd
u conservatives were calling MARTIN UTHER KING a socialist and a communist. i see ya’lls playbook hasnt changed.
td
December 4th, 2011
3:35 pm
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
3:27 pm
@td
the wars may be small to you, but not to the men and women who served and died in it. but you dont care about them anyway, do you.
So this is how you libs revise real history by taking what people said totally out of context. Try to read my statement again and not give my words a distorted meaning.
Conservatives do not care about the military. I do not see too many code pink conservatives.
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
3:35 pm
conservatives like td was angry when OSAMA BIN LADEN was killed and OBAMA gave the order. they would have been glad if the mission failked so they could blame the failure on OBAMA. these hateful racists are so full of it, its pitiful
td
December 4th, 2011
3:37 pm
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
3:28 pm
MLK was an admitted socialist and was a communist sympathizer.
Frederick Douglass
December 4th, 2011
3:38 pm
Who said there’s no life after politics? Herman Cain has just secured an endorsement from Bojangles chicken on Old national Hwy. in College Park. He’ll be doing a slow shuffle and singing “Mammy” in the parking lot, just drop your donations in the ten gallon hat when he takes his bows.
Eddie Long
December 4th, 2011
3:38 pm
Hang in there HERMAN, they always trying to keep a strong black man down.
td
December 4th, 2011
3:40 pm
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
3:35 pm
Sorry wrong again. The killing of OSB is one of the few things I will give credit for doing right in his administration. Although, I bet none of you libs will admit that Obama was following the policies put in place by Bush?
Eddie Long
December 4th, 2011
3:41 pm
@td
told ya ya’ll’s playbook is the same as your predecessors the KKK. same song same dance
linberalefty
December 4th, 2011
3:42 pm
@fred douglass
he’llgo back to talk radio and bash blacks to make his idiot racist callers feel good about themselves
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
3:45 pm
what do black conservatives do to curry favor from whites? they bash black people, becausev they know it gives racists a warm fuzzy feeling.
rudikkingme
December 4th, 2011
3:46 pm
Obama has three years of experience being the prez, morons. Newt has zero.
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
3:46 pm
Enter your comments here
liberal
poo Bear
December 4th, 2011
3:46 pm
Straight Talk, You need to let in go, Take a deep breath, go for a walk, Take a cold shower, Walk your dog, Do something else besides posting on this site, Please!!!!!
Sister Sarah
December 4th, 2011
3:48 pm
@td
I am AMAZED that you cannot see even in your OWN posting (from the Tea Party website) what is so problematic with the declaration. Well, actually…I am not at all amazed, just being sarcastic. The “actual credit for the movement is still under debate”(??). Why do you suppose that is so td?? Maybe because there has been an effort to downplay the fact that the Tea Party protests and the physical movement showed itself after Obama took office?? Do you think it strange that Ron Paul and his organization have nothing to do with the current Tea Party movement? In other words… the TPM attempted to latch itself onto the Ron Paul Tax day thing, but it is WELL documented that that was an altogether different movement. There is documentation all over the place that verifies that the Tea Party Movement began in 2009. It all started with the Tea Bag thing which we all saw on television all over the country. You can keep spouting the same B-S all you want; it does not change the facts. And really, I am done dealing with you. Your skull is about as thick as concrete and you are a WASTE of all of our brain cells.
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
3:48 pm
one minute the conservatives want an outsider with no washington experience, next minute they tout all of NEWTS experience. will they make up their minds already?
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
3:51 pm
if the PEE PARTY started before OBAMA took office, why had nobody talked about them before? why werent they on tv protesting the PATRIOT ACT? why come we didnt see any of these angry fools carrying guns until a black man got in office?
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2011
3:59 pm
td
December 4th, 2011
2:58 pm
Look before I leap…
December 4th, 2011
2:30 pm
Did you know you can take every dollar made by the top 1% in a year and not even cover the deficit? This tells you we have a spending problem and not a revenue problem. Ever since the 1980’s people have been saying SS would run out of money when the baby boomers retire. SS, Medicare and Medicaid has to be reformed if you want to have anything left 20 years from now.
I am not sure what debate you are having, but I never said the revenue would come entirely from the top 1% nor was I arguing that SS/Medicare-Medicaid should not be looked at in order to shore up its liquidity problems. But if you think SS and Medicare are going to become solvent by CUTTING benefits, then consider the following:
For a single individual:
You can cut the average annual SS payout by 17% before they hit the current poverty line and save about $120B/year. That means (at current levels) 56 million more poor people.
You can cut Medicare/Medicaid by a corresponding percentage and save another $120B/year.
But that would leave by some estimates about 38 million more people with access to proper medical care. Most of these folks will get sick at some point and require care, so who will pay for that? Lacking the care, many of them will die. Which provides one upside, they will no longer be a drain on Social Security.
Obviously the above is an extreme example, but my real point is, quit pitching cuts to SS/MC as a fiscal solution if your plan involves forcing old people to eat kibble and die early.
pierre gustave toutant beauregard
December 4th, 2011
4:06 pm
@ Sister
Did you read td’s list of the 20 richest Americans, with 17 of them Democrats? Not only was the list inaccurate, half of the his Democrats were either Republicans, Independents, or Non-partisans. He either gets his made-up facts from some right wing website, or makes it up himself.
td
December 4th, 2011
4:08 pm
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
3:51 pm
Like I said before I guess you all did not listen to Herman, Neal, Sean or Rush prior to the 2008 election. If you had then you would have heard of the movement. It only got national attention once Carl Rove and the Koch brothers pumped money into making it a national movement after the 2008 election.
Tina
December 4th, 2011
4:10 pm
This is nothing new. What I dont understand is why he would even run, knowing this mess could come back to haunt him.
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2011
4:12 pm
td
December 4th, 2011
3:40 pm
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
3:35 pm
Sorry wrong again. The killing of OSB is one of the few things I will give credit for doing right in his administration. Although, I bet none of you libs will admit that Obama was following the policies put in place by Bush?
You’re kidding right? You don’t think that had we not wasted time, resources and money invading Iraq, we would have stood a far better chance of finding Bin Laden much sooner than the 10 years it took to find him? Not to mention the fact that Bush should have told Musharraf he had 90 days to locate and turn over Bin Laden or we were coming in after him.
The only thing the “Bush” policies did not do was give Bin Laden a disguise, a suitcase full of money and a fake passport.
td
December 4th, 2011
4:15 pm
pierre gustave toutant beauregard
December 4th, 2011
4:06 pm
@ Sister
Did you read td’s list of the 20 richest Americans, with 17 of them Democrats?
You really need to go back and look at the original post. The 20 listed were not the top 20 riches Americans it was a list of people in the top 1%. The whole point was to point out that there are more Dems in the top 1% then there are Republicans and to make make that silly argument about the Republicans are only for the rich go away.
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2011
4:19 pm
td
December 4th, 2011
4:08 pm
liberalefty
December 4th, 2011
3:51 pm
Like I said before I guess you all did not listen to Herman, Neal, Sean or Rush prior to the 2008 election. If you had then you would have heard of the movement. It only got national attention once Carl Rove and the Koch brothers pumped money into making it a national movement after the 2008 election.
Kindly find and cite a media reference that mentions Tea Party prior to early 2009? Other than the one in Boston over 200 years ago?
td
December 4th, 2011
4:19 pm
Look before I leap…
December 4th, 2011
4:12 pm
Obama had two years to tell Musharraf the same thing. What happened? Do you really think Masharraf would be shooting at our troops if Bush were still in office?
I guess we shall disagree on the importance of the Iraq war because I and many others (including Hillary and Kerry) thought it was important and voted to allow Bush to go in.
td
December 4th, 2011
4:26 pm
Look before I leap…
December 4th, 2011
4:19 pm
Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Neal Boortz. I am pretty sure you could back and read Ann Coulter or Michele Malkin and find some reference also. Like I said before the original tea party movement was local anti tax movements so go back and read the their planks and you will find the Tea Party. I was part of the anti tax movement here in Atlanta and can tell you first hand that a great deal of the leaders of that movement are now leaders of the local Tea party movement.
td
December 4th, 2011
4:34 pm
Here is something for you progressive Dems to ponder. BTW: it is not being covered my the main stream media as well:
“There is just no way to describe this without a smirk and a chuckle. When you read how some of New York’s Russian immigrants (who know Soviet-style Communism all-too-well) are aligning with Republicans—because they view Democrats’ policies to be too similar to the failed policies of their homeland—there is just something richly ironic there. However, when you read how their never-met-a-Marxist-she-didn’t-love Democrat legislator reacts to be having her party compared to Soviet Russia, now that is just over-the-top funny:
Businessman Arkadiy Fridman said that the newly formed Citizens Magazine Business Club, a confederation of more than 50 Russian-owned businesses here and in Brooklyn, has aligned itself with the Molinari Republican Club (MRC) in an effort to increase the Russian community’s political and economic clout.
“We decided we had to support this club,” said Fridman, a former Soviet Army officer who came to the United States in 1992. “They are very close to our political and business vision.”
Fridman said that the Democrats “are going in an absolutely different direction,” focusing on “income redistribution” and rich-versus-poor “class war.”
“It’s too socialistic,” said Fridman, head of the non-profit Staten Island Community Center and president of Citizens Magazine, a public affairs publication. “It’s very painful for us to see.”
And, if that weren’t bad enough, the Democrats’ are reminding the Russian immigrants of something they thought they left behind:
The Big Brother approach reminds Fridman too much of what he left behind in the former Soviet Union.
“It’s the same rule like it was there,” said Fridman, who estimates there are around 55,000 Russian immigrants here.
Michael Petrov of the Digital Edge data management firm in Bloomfield, said that he objects to the “micro-managing of the economy” he’s seen from city as well as federal officials.
“Government is affecting small business more and more,” said Petrov, who came to the United States in 1994. “It’s the same as what’s happening in Russia.”
The Russian immigrants seem to know the path the Democratic Party is leading the nation down far better than many Democrats, which is why it seems the GOP is a better fit for the Russians.
Of course, the danger of being exposed is not lost on their Marxist legislator, union-boss-turned-Democrat-politician, State Sen. Diane Savino (D-North Shore/Brooklyn), who just seems to cringe at the thought of being exposed and being labeled either a Socialist or a Communist:
State Sen. Diane Savino (D-North Shore/Brooklyn) said she understands the Russian aversion to anything that looks like big government, but thinks the criticism of the Democratic Party is off-base.
“You can’t ignore the fact that the Russian population here came of age during the Soviet era,” said Ms. Savino, who counts many Russians among her Brooklyn constituents.
“They have different thoughts on what communism and socialism mean. They are a little more sensitive to it.
“But, that being said,” she added, “you can’t compare the policies of the Democratic Party with communism. It’s absurd”
redstate.com
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2011
4:35 pm
td
December 4th, 2011
4:15 pm
pierre gustave toutant beauregard
December 4th, 2011
4:06 pm
@ Sister
Did you read td’s list of the 20 richest Americans, with 17 of them Democrats?
You really need to go back and look at the original post. The 20 listed were not the top 20 riches Americans it was a list of people in the top 1%. The whole point was to point out that there are more Dems in the top 1% then there are Republicans and to make make that silly argument about the Republicans are only for the rich go away.
You realize the list of the top 1% by definition has about 1.5 million names. And you are extrapolating 17 names from a list of 20 that are not even the top 20 names and deducing that more democrats are on the list than republicans?
Interesting.
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2011
4:38 pm
td
December 4th, 2011
4:19 pm
Look before I leap…
December 4th, 2011
4:12 pm
Obama had two years to tell Musharraf the same thing. What happened?
I think maybe it had something to do with the fact that Musharraf left office 3 months before Obama was elected.
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2011
4:42 pm
td
December 4th, 2011
4:19 pm
Look before I leap…
December 4th, 2011
4:12 pm
Obama had two years to tell Musharraf the same thing. What happened? Do you really think Masharraf would be shooting at our troops if Bush were still in office?
I guess we shall disagree on the importance of the Iraq war because I and many others (including Hillary and Kerry) thought it was important and voted to allow Bush to go in.
Not going to do your research for you my dear.
You made the claim, I asked you to back it up with a specific, credible citation and you are unable or unwilling to do so. Until you do, I will have no choice but to discount your statement as nothing more than delusional, partisan hackery.
pierre gustave toutant beauregard
December 4th, 2011
4:46 pm
@td
“Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Neal Boortz. I am pretty sure you could back and read Ann Coulter or Michele Malkin and find some reference also.”
This is synonymous with a jury listening to only one side in a trial – say, only listening to Johnny Cochran’s made-up defense in O.J.’s trial.
If you had good sense, you would listen to both sides, but you have already established your position on that issue…
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2011
4:46 pm
Ooops – cited wrong post at 4:42
td
December 4th, 2011
4:26 pm
Look before I leap…
December 4th, 2011
4:19 pm
Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Neal Boortz. I am pretty sure you could back and read Ann Coulter or Michele Malkin and find some reference also. Like I said before the original tea party movement was local anti tax movements so go back and read the their planks and you will find the Tea Party. I was part of the anti tax movement here in Atlanta and can tell you first hand that a great deal of the leaders of that movement are now leaders of the local Tea party movement.
Not going to do your research for you my dear.
You made the claim, I asked you to back it up with a specific, credible citation and you are unable or unwilling to do so. Until you do, I will have no choice but to discount your statement as nothing more than delusional, partisan hackery.
Sister Sarah
December 4th, 2011
5:16 pm
*having a glass of red wine (in honor of Herman Cain and Eddie Long – two “brothers from another mother”)* Cheers!
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2011
5:45 pm
Sister Sarah
December 4th, 2011
5:16 pm
*having a glass of red wine (in honor of Herman Cain and Eddie Long – two “brothers from another mother”)* Cheers!
Were it not for the fact that Mrs Bishop Eddie Long is obviously a woman in pain and I am sure facing overwhelming pressure from the bishop and his church minions, that whole soap opera on Thu and Fri would have been a terrific episode of RHOA.
I hope she stands strong and stays the course, and takes Eddie for EVERYTHING.
Sister Sarah
December 4th, 2011
6:31 pm
To all my conservative friends…I wonder how well you receive stuff like this:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/george-will-calls-herman-cain-entrepreneurial-charlatan-who-used-campaign-as-a-book-tour/
When the intellectual arm of conservative thought (i.e. George Will, Bill Crystal, Ed Rollins, et al) occassionally break real in an attempt to firewall the party off from the kooks. This is one thing I do admire about those particular individuals in the conservative movement. They see CLEARLY who Herman Cain was FROM THE BEGINNING, though they did the Republican party a terrible service by not being so vocal about it until now really.
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2011
6:56 pm
Sister Sarah
December 4th, 2011
6:31 pm
To all my conservative friends…I wonder how well you receive stuff like this:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/george-will-calls-herman-cain-entrepreneurial-charlatan-who-used-campaign-as-a-book-tour/
When the intellectual arm of conservative thought (i.e. George Will, Bill Crystal, Ed Rollins, et al) occassionally break real in an attempt to firewall the party off from the kooks. This is one thing I do admire about those particular individuals in the conservative movement. They see CLEARLY who Herman Cain was FROM THE BEGINNING, though they did the Republican party a terrible service by not being so vocal about it until now really
I grew up reading Will in the Washington Post and cut my political teeth following his commentaries.
I don’t agree with his position on many issues, but he is balanced, erudite and articulate. He is the absolute opposite to the bombastic rantings of Rush and Hannity and Coulter.
He was a front-runner from the conservative side in condemning Nixon and his shenanigans, but I have noticed that over the past 10-15 years, he has a tendancy to follow more than lead. Perhaps that comes from being older or maybe in comparison to the knee-jerk insta-reponses and news as entertainment media, he just seems slower.
Perhaps he wanted to see if Herman’s grass-roots campaign had any real substance before making a pronouncement. Or maybe the media markets have just outgrown him.
clem
December 4th, 2011
8:12 pm
tiberius, said i would be back….i got my uncle sam greeting in summer of ‘69. you served in 78-82. there was no draft then, so i doubt you really understand what was going on then.
it was good to see today on ga gang acknowledgement that cain needed to go. also, on same prevailing attitude on other talk shows conservative and liberal…george will said something akin to cain was an entrepreneurial charlatan….
also, amazing comments from senator coburn regarding gingrich.
Hypocrisy Runs In The Cain Family (Gloria Cain)
December 4th, 2011
9:42 pm
The American political primary system has been hijacked by “charlatans, entrepreneurs, and entrepreneurial charlatans.”
**********************************************************
Cain Supporters KNEW that this man was a FRAUD and a HYPOCRITE!
White people were using him against Obama when they KNEW he was a FRAUDand a HYPOCRITE!
They wanted to kick Obama out of the white house BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!
How did that work OUT?
Cain supporters GOT PUNK’D by Herman Cain and Gloria Cain!
Hypocrisy Runs In The Cain Family (Gloria Cain)
December 4th, 2011
9:49 pm
@td December 4th, 2011 4:34 pm – Here is something for you progressive Dems to ponder. BTW: it is not being covered my the main stream media as well:
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GIVE US A BREAK WITH ALL OF THAT b******t! You ought to be tired of all of that typing!
You are what stupid people think smart people sound like,
Yuk!
Don
December 4th, 2011
10:10 pm
Look, Cain was LYING about the harassment settlements. He was the head of an organization that paid out 10’s of thousands of dollars in settlements. It was his responsibility to know, and to make sure that there wasn’t more exposure. That’s the minimum, even if the charges weren’t against him. How could he not know about the settlements? Incompetence? Or liar?
Don
December 4th, 2011
10:12 pm
And if you ever thought that he was a viable candidate…. well, I guess that’s a comment on our educational system.
td
December 4th, 2011
10:16 pm
Hypocrisy Runs In The Cain Family (Gloria Cain)
December 4th, 2011
9:49 pm
You my friend are what a typical liberal sounds like. If you can not argue the facts or the philosophy the just call names and sound angry.
Yuk
td
December 4th, 2011
10:20 pm
Don
December 4th, 2011
10:10 pm
Sorry for picking on you but you are about the 50th person to post your opinion as if it were fact. Where is your evidence? What court of law was this evidence presented in?
You my friend and the other 50 people on these blogs are making this stuff up and trying to present it as facts. You do not know as I do not know.
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2011
11:01 pm
td
December 4th, 2011
10:20 pm
Don
December 4th, 2011
10:10 pm
“Sorry for picking on you but you are about the 50th person to post your opinion as if it were fact. Where is your evidence? What court of law was this evidence presented in?”
Ummmm…er….ahem…. uh….
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
GTPHISH
December 4th, 2011
11:01 pm
Gotta give it to Mr. Cain, his paramour makes Bill Clinton’s Monica look like a playboy bunny…..
BTW, all you self-righteous bible thumpers who despise Bill Clinton and yet still worship Herman Cain are being laughed at all over….
honested
December 4th, 2011
11:35 pm
Oh well, hermie is now so two-weeks-ago.
He had no chance and he did his best to prove it.
Whether he tagged anybody or not makes no difference.
I do wish he had stayed in just to see if the gop was in fact stupid enough to nominate him.
honested
December 4th, 2011
11:38 pm
td,
Aren’t sealed settlements a pain.
You can pretend that absolutely nothing happened and hide behind the shield of the ’seal’.
But if it needs to, the truth will always find it’s way to the surface.
Of course, hermie always had the opportunity to make an offer to the plaintiffs to open the claims and make public all the details….
But that would never have happened.
The Death of Politics
December 4th, 2011
11:54 pm
You ‘people’ are the reason I, and many others like me, can’t stand to get involved with politics. You never debate policy or decisions that can actually help our country. All you do is malign the candidate, be them Republican, Democrat, Libertarian or otherwise, and insult the intelligence or lineage of those that disagree with you or your candidate.
The sad part is you are the small percentage that makes the most noise. And as more of the rest of us become frustrated and disinterested in matters of politics, our country gets deeper and deeper in the hole and further away from what our country should be.
Tiberius
December 5th, 2011
12:21 am
I’m simply amazed at the amount of liberal bloggers who have posted such bigoted and racist descriptions of Herman Cain since this morning, firmly dispelling their lie that the right is the home for bigots and racists.
RUSH LIMPNUTTTTS
December 5th, 2011
12:49 am
@Tiberius 12;21
u tell’em boy
William Omer
December 5th, 2011
3:58 am
How is it that people think this is media driven? The man pulled out of the race after yet another woman came forward. Why did he never take the lie detector test that he said he would if need be? Would that not solve the earlier accusations? And how is it that he has this “friendship” with a woman whom he provides money to that his wife does not know. How is it that it’s the media’s fault? I understand that his personal life should not be in the discussion when it comes to debating the future of the country, but the man never came clean and owned up to his infidelities. I get it, no evidence to prove otherwise, but then why not continue to campaign? If he truly is innocent he owes it to the people that gave money to his campaign. If he’s guilty, he needs to concentrate on his marriage, which is what he’s doing. Is Gloria concerned other women might come out of the woodworks and cause further damage to their marriage? This whole thing bothers me because it’s yet another politician that is flat lying. Poor Gloria, she’ probably taken care of but man, it’d suck to be in her position.
Attack Dog
December 5th, 2011
5:28 am
Since 17 of the top 20 richest Americans are Democrats, why are the Republicans so bent on protecting the 1.5%? Like Cain said, there is that word again, “clarify.”
Attack Dog
December 5th, 2011
5:31 am
There are some who asks for facts, after they have been given, but present opinions or contextual misstatements.
Attack Dog
December 5th, 2011
5:33 am
Cain shouldn’t have dropped out since it was alleged that his affair was only 13-years. George W. Bush had an alleged affair with Jennifer Fitzgerald that lasted at least two decades.
Ackshun
December 5th, 2011
5:45 am
Hmmmmm so Herman Cain never thought anything in his past would come out once he became the anti-establishment candidate? If that’s true then no way was he smart enough to run this country. Thou shalt not threaten the IRS now go home pizza-boy.
charles mcghee
December 5th, 2011
6:11 am
What amazing to me is we expect political candidates to have prefect pasts when they never confessed to being saints. The only thing we want from a politician is to look out for our materiality benefits; now on the other hand most ministers I know have been drug users, womanizer, con-artists, alcohol abusiers, wife beaters and on and on, we have no trouble with their past and these are people who’s teaching us how to have enternal life. That would be fine to not worry about preachers past if once they accept the calling they lived honest lives afterward; however, just as many preachers screw-up as politician so while worry about a politician past?
Attack Dog
December 5th, 2011
8:52 am
We have already had a President to be hounded about his involvment in a failed business, accused of sexual harassment, evidence that he had contentual sexual encounters, and that he contested being accused of adultry. Newt decided that these issues were cause for a $70 million investigation and impeachment hearings. Unlike Clinton and Cain, I guess Newt feels he is safe becuase doesn’t have a failed business venture on his resume…yet.
Frederick Douglass
December 5th, 2011
9:09 am
I hope the rumors aren’t true that Herman Cain and Eddie Long are teaming up for a Tyler Perry stage adaptation of “Buck and the Preacher”. Supposedly in an unprecedented role reversal, Cain is being considered for the role of the sleazy preacher, while Long is tentatively being looked at for the role of Buck, the philandering con man. Calls to Perry’s Atlanta offices went unanswered as of Friday, but sources close to both the Cain and Long camps intimated that both men are open to such a venture.
MemE
December 5th, 2011
9:12 am
You know what is AMAZING. Men cheat. Successful men cheat, poor men cheat and I guarantee MOST of the men on this blog HAVE CHEATED. So why is it so hard to believe that THIS MAN cheated? Gloria knew … WOMEN ALWAYS know. It clearly EXPLAINS why she didn’t subject herself to the campaign trail.
* sheesh *
Sister Sarah
December 5th, 2011
9:14 am
I don’t know about most of YOU, but everytime I have been offered a position at a company I have had to go through and INTENSIVE background scree to include past criminal history, motor vehicle records, credit reports, drug screen, military background and on and on. Why? Maybe because said organizations actually care about my CHARACTER and past actions and have the reasonable expectation they can trust me to carry out their business plan and properly manage their intellectual property in the present and future with INTEGRITY. So I challenge anyone to please present the argument again about why it shouldn’t be a big deal that a political candidate’s past life is scrutinzed?
In the private sector the corporation is the boss; in the public sector WE THE PEOPLE ARE (at least we are supposed to be), and as such each dictates accordingly. I’m waiting…And please, answer the question at hand. No diversions about the “liberal media” and Obama. Geez!
td
December 5th, 2011
9:21 am
Sister Sarah
December 5th, 2011
9:14 am
I think you are right that everything should be examined and then let the voters make the decision. Now, will you join with me and call on the media and the Obama administration to give up all the information to be studied and looked at by the American voter.
Most jobs require college transcripts, why can we not see Obama’s? Why can we not read Obama’s thesis? Why can we not see Obama’s passport when he took a trip to Pakistan in the 80’s?
Should we not have this access since he is asking for another term?
RUSH LIMPNUTTTTS
December 5th, 2011
2:17 pm
td
face it fool, HERMIES gone, the minstrel show is ova
Mark
December 5th, 2011
3:19 pm
@ RUSH LIMPNUTTTTS
December 5th, 2011
2:17 pm
td
face it fool, HERMIES gone, the minstrel show is ova
I have to admit I’m going to miss him grinning and tapping dancing for Master. He made a complete fool of himself with sayings like “awww shuckie duckie”
Jacobs Bubble
December 5th, 2011
6:32 pm
Having been a witness right in the middle of a sexual harassment case. I can state unequivocally, that some women lie on a level that borders on pathological. The person being lied about can almost believes it in the manner it was presented. The women’s lib litigation has become big business for lawyers. Its easy money, and I would suspect that only a small percentage are actually genuinely pursued for true reasons.