The compartmentalized life of Herman Cain
Republican presidential candidate, Herman Cain has his photo taken with a supporter after speaking at a campaign rally on Wednesday in Columbus, Ohio. AP/Jay LaPrete
When Ted Turner established WTBS as the first satellite-bounced, 24-hour TV station in the late 1970s, Bill Tush was the young fellow tasked with providing much of the station’s after-hours content.
His comedy newscast – he was a poor man’s Jon Stewart with neckties as wide as a mobile home — made Tush something of a national cult figure, though he concedes that much of his young audience was probably either drunk or stoned.
Tush is now semi-retired and a member of the Eagle’s Landing Country Club in Stockbridge. Off the links and over several months of drinks and conversation, Tush made the acquaintance of a fellow club member named Herman Cain.
“I knew he had been the president of a pizza company. And he had a radio gig,” Tush said this week. Other topics – politics, say – never came up.
“I’ve always been friendly with people in the political sphere, but I never considered [Cain] a political person. And then – blam! – there he was, running for president. And I’m thinking, ‘This is the guy I used to sit in the corner [and shoot the breeze with].’”
Tush had just learned the same lesson that many of us are only now faced with. Just because you know one part of Herman Cain doesn’t mean you know the whole of the man.
This latest allegation, that Cain conducted a 13-year, off-and-on affair with a Dunwoody woman named Ginger White, only emphasizes a picture that was already forming.
Herman Cain is a driven candidate with many watertight compartments.
White says she met the future presidential candidate in Kentucky, while Cain was still president of the National Restaurant Association. Cain says that White’s claim of a sexual connection amounts to character assassination, but admits the pair had a “friendship relationship” and says he sometimes provided White financial assistance.
Yet the GOP candidate also says that neither his wife nor his family know the woman. Which perhaps shouldn’t be a surprise.
Citing a discomfort with the American system of vetting political candidates, Cain has sequestered his family from his campaign — with a single exception. When sexual harassment charges first surfaced last month, his wife of 43 years, Gloria Cain, submitted to an interview with Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren.
“This isn’t Herman,” Gloria Cain said. So far, there has been no talk of a repeat interview.
Cain is an associate minister at Antioch Baptist Church North in Atlanta. He loves to sing hymns from the stage. And yet his fellow church members prefer to keep mum about the candidate — the Rev. Cameron Alexander, longtime pastor of the church, included. Another sealed compartment.
The 65-year-old Cain has campaigned on his business acumen, pointing to his rescue of Godfather’s Pizza. But his former business associates have largely declined to talk about Cain’s years at the helm of the company. Yet another closed door.
Less talked about is Cain’s place within the infrastructure of the Georgia GOP. Cain moved back to Georgia in 2000 and ran an unsuccessful campaign for U.S. Senate in 2004. But his presidential campaign, though run from an office near the Eagle’s Landing Country Club, was originally staffed from out of state.
His relationship with longtime leaders of the state Republican party might be described as distant.
Cain’s most public relationship in Georgia may be with Neal Boortz, the radio host for whom Cain sometimes subbed on AM 750 and 95.5 FM News/Talk WSB. On Tuesday, only a few hours after White’s allegations became public, Boortz was asked his opinion of his friend.
“I know Herman Cain. This does not sound like Herman Cain to me. It doesn’t sound like him,” Boortz said. “Additionally, it is very curious to me that every allegation against Herman Cain has come from his three years at the National Restaurant Association.”
Boortz was implying a conspiracy, which is an exciting option. Less exciting is not knowing the people you call friend as well as you might. In the end, Boortz said, it may be time for Cain to think about retiring from the field – for the sake of his family.
Cain’s protests this week have included a tone of outrage — that one piece of his world would wander uncontrolled into another. In his pre-emptive interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer – anticipating White’s charges – Cain was asked if more accusations could follow.
“When someone that appears to be a friend, turns around and concocts this story, you’ve got to question – the hundreds of thousands of people that I have met in my life, a hundred thousand people could possibly come out,” a frustrated Cain said.
Curiously, this week’s best argument for a compartmentalized life came from Cain’s attorney, Lin Wood, in a letter to Fox 5 Atlanta – which broke the White story.
“This appears to be an accusation of private, alleged consensual conduct between adults — a subject matter which is not a proper subject of inquiry by the media or the public,” Wood wrote. “The public’s right to know and the media’s right to report has boundaries and most certainly those boundaries end outside of one’s bedroom door.”
It was a noble statement of principle, which fell with a dull thud in a political contest for the hearts and minds of a Republican and largely conservative Christian electorate.
An electorate that might argue that a man’s religious principles ought to freely swap around to other parts of his life, mixing like gravy into vegetables on a plate.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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Ga Values...Just call me heartless
November 30th, 2011
6:42 pm
http://player.vimeo.com/video/6445068?autoplay=1
BILLY MAYS HERE
November 30th, 2011
7:05 pm
Honestly, there are so many reasons to dislike Herman I’m surprised anyone really cares about his fooling around.
ld
November 30th, 2011
7:11 pm
Jim, ya’ beatin’ th’ proverbial ‘dead horse’ here?
Jon Lester
November 30th, 2011
7:15 pm
Good to hear from Bill Tush, anyway.
Frederick Douglass
November 30th, 2011
7:18 pm
‘hundreds of thousands of people I’ve met in my life’
What’s this guy trying to do, top the late Wilt Chamberlin’s record?
Disappointed
November 30th, 2011
7:24 pm
Herman Cain should be ashamed of himself. For all of the thousand upon thousands of children who witnessed just a few short years ago that the Top Job in the Land is available to anyone who works hard, strives for a good education and contributes as a good citizen, you have tarnished that Star.
How dare you be so arrogant as to think that the public would overlook your alleged sexual misconduct as you declared “The machine was trying to topple your campaign”. Not,one, two, three, four….but …..stayed tuned……there may be more…and support you in your run for the Top Job.
The Man that currently holds the Top Job came to the table above reproach, you could learn a thing or two….
You have disgraced your wife, family and yourself. For the rest of your days there will be a question mark ? when your name comes up and you will quietly be branded a liar and cheat by people who once respected you.
Park your ego in the garage and salvage your marriage which will most certainly suffer, given the number of inappropriate liasons you are alleged to have had. Get back out there on the Motivational Speaker circuit and sell some books.
If your arrogance compels you to continue to vy for the Top Job, you may find that after not winning the nomination and spending millions of dollars donated to your campaign by people who believed in your vision that you become a fading running joke with the Slogan:
Herman Cain:
“Where the White Women at?”
Boris Badnoff
November 30th, 2011
7:37 pm
1992. Slick Willie. All those women are liars and it’s part of The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Accepted as fact by the Lame Stream Media.
2011. Herman Cain. Every single accusation is totally correct. Ignore the fact that all of these aging tarts are on the payroll of the DNC. Use these baseless charges to libel a fine gentleman.
Find even one picture of Herman doing this
http://1funny.com/obama-staring-at-booty/
and I might believe you. Actually, I won’t but it sound like I’m being reasonable.
missing the point
November 30th, 2011
7:59 pm
it’s a bad day when newt gives you family councelling.
Smoke
November 30th, 2011
8:01 pm
Oh, now Cain is a “dead horse?”. When folks applauded him for quoting the Simpsons told the story of his audience. Cain is an average person who was able to stand on the shoulders of a business giant to rise up the corporate ranks and propped up by his brothers by another mother ever since. He never pulled up his bootstraps because he was always given loafers.
Zadoc Paet
November 30th, 2011
8:02 pm
I don’t think Herman Cain ever had a chance at winning the GOP nomination, and these allegations don’t help, but he may as well stay in it so that his voice is heard.
POLL: With accusations of a long-term extramarital affair, should Herman Cain drop out of the race?
Vote: http://www.wepolls.com/p/5819175
beachdog
November 30th, 2011
8:10 pm
Associate pastor…hahahahahahaha
John Sulivan
November 30th, 2011
8:21 pm
It’s incredible that people assume the allegations are true. They are not true. You can make all the comments you wish sitting behind a pen name but you will see that they allegations are false. Herman Cain is a good man. Not perfect. None of us are. But, a good man.
He's got my vote
November 30th, 2011
8:21 pm
I don’t believe any of this, but even if it was true– I am more concerned about saving this dismal economy then who he may or may not have slept with. I don’t give one hoot about his sex life, I love that he is a BUSINESSMAN, not a crooked politician with greased pockets– and he actually offers solutions, not just empty promises like other candidates (yes, Mr. President included). Herman’s got my vote if he can weather this storm of idiotic character assassination. Seriously, have we become so Jersey Shore-Real Housewives-Kardashian brainwashed that it is more facinating to discuss a candidates alleged sex life instead of the one main point that matters: Who can fix this country and turn the economy around?
Kevin
November 30th, 2011
8:24 pm
Jim, is it really a compartmentalized life if nothing has been proven?
It’s a bit like asking you if you still beat your wife.
Personally, I think this article is irresponsible and sensational. And you’re better than that.
For the record, I’m no fan of Cain. But I’m even less of a fan of people who consider allegations to be real.
whatajoke
November 30th, 2011
8:26 pm
I think Herman was led to the stupid decision to run by Boortz and his listeners. Jump in Uncle Herman, Jump in…..we “LOVE” you!!! You silly rabbit
Von
November 30th, 2011
8:33 pm
Oh Jim, youre just eating this crap up arent you? Cain published many of the letters he had written to this woman in his own freaking book! And she and your kind in the liberal media arent exactly putting those text messages she has in her phone out there…gee golly I wonder why? You really just cant stand the fact that he is a black republican who could actually help this country out; I venture to say the thought terrifies your kind.
BM
November 30th, 2011
8:34 pm
Typical comments from our liberal media. Funny how this cities newspaper buries one of its own so quickly. Love to see you idiots investigate Dictator O and his relationship with Rev J Wright. You are all pawns of this Marxist!
police911
November 30th, 2011
8:35 pm
Man-O-Man! The cain-paign is DOA! Please supress your pride; conquer your ego; defeat your stuborness and get back to donig wht you do best. Stop SCREWING your donors (no pun intended)!
police911
November 30th, 2011
8:36 pm
“doing what”…my bad
whatajoke
November 30th, 2011
8:37 pm
Please explain to me why this is all a bunch of lies when the NRA officials admitted they paid out a settlement. Herman admitted he knows Ms White and have given her money. Does Ms Cain know Ms White (NO). Was Ms Cain aware that Herman gave Ms White money (NO). Hell, I’ve been married almost 32 yrs and if I were giving another woman money and texting her 4:00 am, my azz would be toast and so would any other decent married man.
Aquagirl
November 30th, 2011
8:42 pm
Run, Hermie, run….keep sucking the oxygen out of the Republican room and throwing Republican money down the toilet. For that amount of service to our country, I won’t even begrudge your misusing Secret Service agents to make your little imaginary media-free bubble.
clem
November 30th, 2011
8:45 pm
heck, that’s when i make all my calls to find out who needs money?
darb
November 30th, 2011
8:47 pm
Something about Cain doesnt strike me as kosher. Im starting to think these women are not all halucinating. In the end, I’ll be surprised if his wifes stands with him , or stays with him. This political run may cost him more than he ever thought it could.
You sanctimonious ...
November 30th, 2011
8:47 pm
…black folks just can’t stand a conservative black man that is successful WITHIOUT having been part of the “what can the guv’ment give me” mentality…You are a bunch of pure bred racists…
Cutty-- "See you Santa Claus!"
November 30th, 2011
8:55 pm
Herman didn’t have his game tight. If he was paying this woman’s bills and taking her on trips, he should’ve had the understanding that none of this was to be ever disclosed. Any real player would have their game on point being under such bright lights. That’s reason enough not to vote for him. If he wasn’t up to par on his pimp game, just think how his foreign policy game would be!
sheepdawg
November 30th, 2011
8:56 pm
Tush would be a better candidate than any of the GOP clowns
whatajoke
November 30th, 2011
8:56 pm
sounds like another Boortz azz sniffer…..
sheepdawg
November 30th, 2011
8:57 pm
it’s a bad day when newt gives you family councelling
now that’s funny!
you silly sheeple
November 30th, 2011
8:59 pm
you libs could not stand the fact there is a better qualified black man. shame on you all. lib media will have create dirt on any GOP’er to keep the socialist, cry bay, finger pointing dictator in WH…
Cutty-- "See you Santa Claus!"
November 30th, 2011
9:02 pm
Sanctimonious- What a moronic statement. If you knew anything about “black folks”, you’d know that no one really cares about Herman Cain. Herman Cain is doing enough to embarrass himself. The ‘guv’ment’ has given me nothing. My folks stressed education and I made something of myself (with lots of help). But your comments sum you up just right tho.
dd
November 30th, 2011
9:02 pm
I don’t care either way, but it seems to me that if Cain doesn’t have anything to hide, he would insist on whatever agreement he made with this restaurant association being made public. JMO
Ball so hard my ankle hurt
November 30th, 2011
9:03 pm
Are the accusations true?
honested
November 30th, 2011
9:06 pm
I miss Bill Tush….
Think of how much less Georgia (and those around America with early Channel 17) would be to accept grinning hucksters as legitimate candidates if the nightly faux-newz claptrap had to compete with the News Chicken (in full costume)!
Once a population loses it’s intellectual sense of humor, the slow spiral into hollow eyed compliance begins.
Buckhead Boy
November 30th, 2011
9:08 pm
My experience has been that when you come to the aid of an acquaintance financially, you’re more likely to never hear from them again than to have frequent communication afterwards.
MD
November 30th, 2011
9:10 pm
Herman Cain will sue the hell out of these idiots for slander when his presidential run is over.Mr.Cain is a God fearing honest American and would be the best president this country has ever seen.The democrats are so affraid of him because he actually understands the concept of a balanced budget.Not to mention the constitution and the role of government.
Look before I leap...
November 30th, 2011
9:12 pm
I can’t comment on the veracity of the claims these various women are making. Right now it seems to be a “he said, she said” situation.
It also appears some of these women would not exactly be considered “pillars of society” but I would generally not expect them to be if they decide to have long-term affairs with married men.
But I find three things that are curious to me:
Where exactly is the media bias here?
The women are coming forward and making some pretty damaging claims against someone who was at one point in the not too distant past, a front-runner for the nomination of a major political party for President of the United States. The claims, unfounded or not, are indeed news-worthy.
I see the same media publishing the candidate’s denials and I have yet to see any major news outlet inidicate a leaning towards either the candidate or accuser. Indeed, said news outlets are publicising details of some of these women that cast them in decidely unfavorable light with regard to past lawsuits, financial condition and other actions. If anything, these news articles favor the candidate. If someone here has a link to something I have missed, I’d be glad to take a look at it.
I am also not seeing anything resembling racism on the part of the news outlets here. Has anyone employed by the mainstream media indicated outrage that the candidate is black and all of the accusers are white? The only racism I am seeing right now are some of the nincompoops who post on this blog quite often.
The last thing I find curious is this: If these accusations are false, would not the dictum, “A good defense is a strong offense” apply? I mean if any case meets the standard of malicious defamation, this would be it. In other words, why hasn’t Herman sued the pants off these women?
Minus Clous
November 30th, 2011
9:13 pm
Gallo and the idiots on this board are part of the problem. Anybody can accuse you of something like harrasment and if you are a Republican, run stories everyday. Nobody said one thing with JFK routed women in and out of the WhiteHouse. Neither did the liberal media say anything about Ted Kennedy or Barny Frank’s prostitution in his house yet a woman says Cain had an affair with him even when he has stage 4 cancer and was on death’s door. Pure stupid.
whatajoke
November 30th, 2011
9:14 pm
I wonder if Ms White has copies of cancelled checks or Uncle Herman paid her in cold cash.
Okay, if he paid her in cash…….that was one smart move.
MD
November 30th, 2011
9:15 pm
and if you believe any thing this liberal newspaper wright you are a complete fool.
Uncle Joe
November 30th, 2011
9:15 pm
Has it been proven that Herman Cain is an adulterer? If not, then why are so many people, like some idiot evangelist, assuming that he is guilty of infidelity? Or why are others already psychoanalyzing this “compartmentalized” man? What a bunch of unsubstantiated, biased calumny. Will the majority (or even a substantial minority) accept this house of cards as fact?
whatajoke
November 30th, 2011
9:20 pm
I know her name is Ms White, but in these part, she would be considered black. If not, she checked the biracial box; just like Mr President.
MD
November 30th, 2011
9:21 pm
look before i leap: the reason he has not sued them is because it would take him out of the race for president and deplete his funds.I say he will sue their lying a$$es when his presidential run is over,or after his term as president has come to an end.
Hard on the Beaver Ward
November 30th, 2011
9:22 pm
Seems to me that a “compartmentalized” live was an ASSET when your boy BJ Clinton was in office.
whatajoke
November 30th, 2011
9:24 pm
Now the real show will come when the spotlight is on Mr Newt
Look before I leap...
November 30th, 2011
9:24 pm
@you santimonious: 8:47
…black folks just can’t stand a conservative black man that is successful WITHIOUT having been part of the “what can the guv’ment give me” mentality…You are a bunch of pure bred racists…
Wow, just wow. Pot, kettle, black (absolutely no pun intended).
One 33 word post and 3 distinct racist assumptions in it, any one of which would get you sent to a diversity training session.
I am surprised you were able to type that post from under your hooded white sheet.
whatajoke
November 30th, 2011
9:25 pm
Yeah, the blue dress did in Slick Willie……
exit stage left
November 30th, 2011
9:28 pm
cain was not ready for prime time. did he really think some white trash from dekalb would keep his secrets with the media sniffing out every piece of dirt on every person vying for the number 1 job in the entire world?? he rolled the dice anyway, got caught and now he is telling more lies to cover up the first ones. more to come you watch, and he is just digging a huge hole for himself that he will never live down. Get out now cain, get out now before it gets worse and you look like an even bigger liar! he gambled big and lost big
Mammy's Shanty
November 30th, 2011
9:29 pm
Herman Cain,
a freaky nasty old man.
Newt
November 30th, 2011
9:31 pm
Newt Newt Newt…………………………..
MD
November 30th, 2011
9:33 pm
Fact is everyones life is worse off now because of Chris Dodd,Barney Frank,(who are retiring because they know there is no chance for their reelection).Also you can add Harry Reid and Nancy polsie to that list as well.Obama was their unqualified goat that has to read a teleprompter just so he could stay on the same page with above mentioned idiots agenda.
Hurt Kurbstreit
November 30th, 2011
9:33 pm
You repubs can dismiss the allegations of Ginger White if you want to. But she has proof and there are probably more affairs in the wings that could come out. It’s unbelievable arrogance for him to believe that this and the harrassment charges would not come out. Top that off with the fact that his 999 is a joke and would never pass and he has Zero knowledge of foreign policy. He doesn’t even know the difference between uz beci beci stan stan and Libya. He’ll be gone from the race soon. Originally, his motivation was to enhance his book sales and speaking tour credentials. Now he has even damaged that. He should have left well enough alone. He was not ready for prime time.
Look before I leap...
November 30th, 2011
9:37 pm
@Minus Clous 9:13
Well the media is quite different since the days of JFK. They tended to look away from such things (as a reminder they did not report on Ike’s well known but un-reported affairs either).
And I think you are mistaken about Teddy and Barney Frank. There was plenty of salacious reporting on their shenanigans. Teddy’s misadventures cost him any chance at the White House and Barney Frank never ran for President. That their constituents kept sending them back to DC election after election, well you have to take that up with the people of Massachusetts.
You also seem to forget, the media covered Gary Hart’s indescretions pretty thoroughly and that cost him any chance in his Presidential bid.
But keep drinking that “liberal” media kool-aid. Hope it makes you sleep better at night, but it sure does make you sound silly.
whatajoke
November 30th, 2011
9:42 pm
The Boortz crowd is always talking about a dam teleprometer; it’s the 21st century……iphone, ipad, telecomute, teleconferencing. The way Herman stumbled all over the Libya question, somebody needs to telegraph him some knowledge.
David
November 30th, 2011
9:42 pm
MD,
You drank his Kool-aid.
findog
November 30th, 2011
9:43 pm
If not for the impeachment of President Clinton by an over reaching congress lead by his friend Newt this good godly republican might have a foot to stand on with, “Consensual sex is a private matter,” defense.
George
November 30th, 2011
9:47 pm
Disappointed wrote, “The Man that currently holds the Top Job came to the table above reproach, you could learn a thing or two”. All I can say is, are you s_ _ t _ _ ng me? Above reproach? God help us if Barack Obama is above reproach. Those of us who have been in the military, or worked for the federal government, know that Barack Obama would not qualify for a security clearance if he was not president.
Look before I leap...
November 30th, 2011
9:48 pm
@MD
Sorry, I just don’t buy it. Siccing lawyers on these women does not take him out of the race. Hire the big guns and tell them to go after them. If they are liars and Cain has nothing to hide, it comes out in court (and in the press). Sends a pretty strong message to his followers and everyone else.
Come after me with lies and I will destroy you.
Sitting idly by with denials (and one really lame comment from his lawyer) will not cut it. There will be no “after he leaves the WH” since he’ll never get there.
In any event, I think his candidacy is on life-support which is not a bad thing since he was a very poor choice in the first place.
George
November 30th, 2011
9:48 pm
Findog…Clinton was impeached for perjury, not having a sexual affair.
Vote for Obama because he's black
November 30th, 2011
9:52 pm
I notice the AJC only allows comments on stories when the right,in this case,a black conservative is under attack.
When a story is featured about a black liberal,civil rights leader,or an affirmative action clown,there is no option to comment on the story.
In this case,Jim,you keep giving an opportunity for those that hate conservatives to bash a hometown hero.So what if he did cheat on his wife,so did Bill Campbell,MLK,Bill Clinton,and many other local dignitaries.
The brother is just into doing what most brothers in positions of power.
How about letting him have a little privacy in his hometown? Show the man some respect ?
Women will do anything for money. Why not bash Ginger for being an immoral woman?
4xtra
November 30th, 2011
9:55 pm
boy..you guys from the trailer park need to STOP……
Yea yea he messed with them ..ALL OF THEM, no doubt but the question is:
Are ANY of these accusations CRIMINAL? NO ..far from it, BUT you hillbillies are mad because some of the women were white..Yall hate that stuff with a PASSION.
The media is killin him and Newt is steppin up AND through the carnage.
your boy herm look like the black Bill Clinton fo real and there is no way that he can recover.from where he WAS at in the polls.
Disappointed
November 30th, 2011
10:02 pm
George….You are obviously not a very well informed Man.
Mr. Obama is President, is Ivy League educated, is well spoken ,extremely informed and has done an extraordinary job given what he inherited. How soon people forget….but then again most people by nature are followers ( you are probably of that uneducated ,military indoctrinated school of thought) and not leaders, usually sounding like the last person they had a conversation with and no real opinion of their own because they don’t fully understand the issues.
We sent a smart Man to Washington to clean up “Crony Mess” and if we are lucky, he will be allowed to finish a great deal of the the job he started.
Remember President Obama did not create the mess…..he stepped into it…wiped off his feet and is doing the best he can to clean it up……Keep up the good work Mr. President
D-Man
November 30th, 2011
10:02 pm
Awww, forget the allegations- there are so many other reasons to dislike this clown that knowing he might have been a player was the only thing to like about him. Standing there on t.v. when he was the hot ish of GOP candidate and scolding black America like HE was better than the rest is FIRST and foremost. You can NOT win going that route dummy. Come with positive ways to make the changes you think are needed instead of telling people how YOU think they should be that’s what you should have done. The way you went was your biggest mistake. Never scold potential voters you idiot or oh did you think you was grand that you didnt need there vote. Now you need a shower. And oh yea, now you claim Democrats wanted you out of there, well duh they are the opposition – wth did you think they would do? This clown has actually made people forget how stupid and out of her league Sarah Palin was and I thought that was impossible. What a lugnut…
vuduchld
November 30th, 2011
10:03 pm
This idiot is yet another example of the fine “citizens” inhabiting the state of Jawja. Just when ya think the people in your state couldn’t get any dumber, bam yo find ways to take it up another notch. First you elect a bankrupt gubner, then you try to convince the rest of us that this fool is the real deal. Now, here you go trying to prop up a new fossil, Newt whatever he is these days. Do you really think that the average level headed citizen is going to fall for your bs. And you Jawja bottom feeders wonder why your troubles mount…lol
Smoke
November 30th, 2011
10:05 pm
Here’s a brain teaser. Most citizens in Tom Graves district have never seen a Black college graduate like Cain or met a PhD of any color, in person. No wonder they have a problem with the intellectual elite, because the only ones they know flunked them in secondary school.
Oh Yeah?
November 30th, 2011
10:10 pm
“Mr.Cain is a God fearing honest American” Yes, and a lot of people like to use God to pull off their evil.
Trint
November 30th, 2011
10:10 pm
Let get to the bottom of this. Mr Cain fell for what we call the Okie Doke. He was built up by the GOP to make it look as if the GOP would back a black candidate. However if he knew better he would have known that he would not win the GOP nomination. That would mean that no matter what a black man would be in the White House for 4 more years. He should have seen it coming, but I guess his arrogance couldnt allow him to
Cain Wreck
November 30th, 2011
10:11 pm
@MD November 30th, 2011 9:10 pm – The democrats are so affraid of him because he actually understands the concept of a balanced budget.Not to mention the constitution and the role of government.
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Your comment gets in the way of a rational discussion.
kreedham
November 30th, 2011
10:13 pm
Hc has succeeded in what he really set out for…much like Sarah Palin. He will now probably get a show or be a semi-regular on Fox News and has seen his speaking fees go up. If he returns to WSB then they will probably try to syndicate his show. That’s called “mo money” and he’s going to get it.
clem
November 30th, 2011
10:15 pm
we know md doesn’t stand for doctor….maybe more delusional
Smoke
November 30th, 2011
10:15 pm
My favorite statement came from Bob Livingstone that he had so many skeletons in his closet that he would step down rather than attempt to become Speaker of the House. What do Bill Clinton, MLK, and Bill Campbell have in common? They are not running for the 2012 GOP nomination like their comparatives Newt and Herman.
findog
November 30th, 2011
10:19 pm
George,
What did he lie about?
Please try to think in more than one spoon fed dimension
Cain Wreck
November 30th, 2011
10:19 pm
@You sanctimonious … November 30th, 2011 8:47 pm – …black folks just can’t stand a conservative black man that is successful WITHIOUT having been part of the “what can the guv’ment give me” mentality…You are a bunch of pure bred racists…
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The bible says,
A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.
A fool’s lips walk into a fight, and his mouth invites a beating.
This has nothing to do with race. This is about Herman Cain making a mockery of this whole process.
This is about morals, integrity and ethics! PERIOD!
BILLY MAYS HERE
November 30th, 2011
10:21 pm
Ever notice the same people who complain about media bias in the mean ol’ AJC keep posting here week after week? If it’s that bad, stop reading the paper. Newsmax is only a click away, crazy people.
clem
November 30th, 2011
10:21 pm
cannot help myself, but since herman and i are close in age, methinks he got some bad ideas from the movie Guide for the Married Man, 1966
short vinette:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZmnXIN_Rb4
Look before I leap...
November 30th, 2011
10:28 pm
@Trint
I think in boxing parlance, it is called the “Ropa-Dope”.
Same outcome though.
Okie Doke – funny
Cain Wreck
November 30th, 2011
10:36 pm
Herman Cain is a christian hypocrite.
He let his E (edged) G (god) O (out) get in the way!
My heart breaks for Mrs. Cain who will suffer the most from his stupidity!
Look before I leap...
November 30th, 2011
10:36 pm
@findog 10:19
C’mon man. You are too erudite for that.
It was obvious that George was making the distinction that perjury is a crime while having an extra-marital affair is not.
Cain’s alleged transgressions only rise to a criminal level if he states under oath in a court-sanctioned proceeding that they did not occur when in fact they did.
Look before I leap...
November 30th, 2011
10:38 pm
@ Cain Wreck 10:36
Not if she has a good divorce attorney. Cain got some dough.
honested
November 30th, 2011
10:43 pm
This whole exercise demonstrates when the ‘qualifications’ are not
‘I am most informed, trained, prepared, tested and capable’
But
‘I am taking the pledges to walk lock step over the cliff at the direction of the 1% and the toadys they have managed to delude’.
What else could they have expected.
RAMZAD
November 30th, 2011
10:46 pm
Proof that Right Wing desperation has run amok is its annointment of one “Presidential” sleaze bag after another- and there are people who still believe in the Republican Tea Party. Amazing!
Cap Pistol
November 30th, 2011
11:00 pm
Cain is an ignorant unqualified clown aside from these sexual shenanigans. And anything Boortz says doesn’t buttress an argument either way, as that verminous clod has zero credibility on any topic under the sun.
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PEWTER
November 30th, 2011
11:10 pm
Do i even need to respond?
Ol' Timer
November 30th, 2011
11:15 pm
The person who encouraged Herman Cain to run for President ought to be institutionalized.
PEWTER
November 30th, 2011
11:16 pm
Yes i do. Republicans have got to be the dumbest, most scum of the earth people on the planet. Do you even listen to yourselves, or do you speak out of one side of your mouth, and then the other. You idiots killed Clinton, yet want to say it’s ok for Herman Co-Cain to do it? Can you be any more hypocritical? Or are you really just that stupid and dumb? Better yet, do you think that everyone else is that stupid and dumb? And Herman Co-Cain is a businessman, and that makes him qualified to be President? Not only are Republicans the scum of the earth, but they’re the most dilusional scumbags. Thank God ALL of your candidates are as retarded as you are on these blogs. Obama wipes his butt with any debates that your candidates bring. Losers in 2008, and definitely losers in 2012! Find a bridge and jump when the results come in next year you scumbags!
td
November 30th, 2011
11:26 pm
PEWTER
November 30th, 2011
11:16 pm
Guess what: If you plan on going to the polls and voting for Obama next year in Georgia then you might as well stay home and not vote because YOUR VOTE WILL NOT BE COUNTED. All 16 votes from Georgia will be cast for the Republican nominee and Zero votes will be cast for Obama.
How about that my misguided, dirty mouthed friend? I will think of you and your disgusting comments on election day and laugh out loud.
BILLY MAYS HERE
November 30th, 2011
11:27 pm
DON’T REPLY TO TD.
BILLY MAYS HERE
November 30th, 2011
11:28 pm
Cap Pistol
November 30th, 2011
11:00 pm
Cain is an ignorant unqualified clown aside from these sexual shenanigans. And anything Boortz says doesn’t buttress an argument either way, as that verminous clod has zero credibility on any topic under the sun.
I disagree. He knows how to fly a plane. And that’s about it.
Aquaniqua
November 30th, 2011
11:30 pm
Herman needs to wrap up his ‘reassessment’ and bail out…tomorrow at the latest. His lame denials are so transparent, he’s just making a fool of himself.
curious
November 30th, 2011
11:33 pm
Republicans need to remember:
LIVE BY THE SWORD; DIE BY THE SWORD.
Being Retired Military and a current federal employee, I’d bet Obama would have had no problem getting a security clearance.
Look before I leap...
November 30th, 2011
11:33 pm
@honested 10:43
Funny you said what you said because every time I hear the term “Tea-Party”, my immediate image is lemmings and a cliff.
Just for yucks, if we wanted to retire the entire federal debt in say, 25 years, we would need to take in 600 billion more dollars than we spend each and every year. With no new revenue streams, that amounts to the government running a 23% SURPLUS each and every year for the next quarter of a century (based on proposed 2012 budget). That is unprecedented and unrealistic.
The Norquist adherents would need to find that much in savings. How to do that?
The current 2012 budget proposal has $2.4T in ‘mandatory spending” – the bulk of which is Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Mandatory meaning spending that is “promised” To cut that spending, we have to break our commitments to retired people, debt-holders and the poor and unemployed.
That leaves $1.3T in discretionary spending, of which nearly half is DoD spending.
Assuming we decide to honor our mandatory commitments (not touch SS/Medicare/Medicaid),not tell the debt-holders oops, we can’t pay and not throw all unemployed and poor people into the streets, and we decide that DoD spending is sacrosanct, the only thing left to us is to eliminate all other federal spending (ALL cabinent dept spending, DOT, Homeland Security, Dept of State, Justice, NASA, Treasury, etc).
Are there opportunities to cut wasteful spending? Of course. But is there is enough will in Congress to do so? Doubtful.
My proposal is – for every dollar cut, find a dollar in revenue increase. Graduate the ratio from 1:1 down to 1:0 by gradually decreasing the revenue increase every 5 years by 20%. This allows the government to operate at a level that slightly exceeds an average annual inflation of 4%.
The Norquestians are gonna have to reneg on the no new taxes promise, else the problem gets handed down to one more generation.
td
November 30th, 2011
11:34 pm
I see the drug addicted dead man as trying to tell everyone on this blog what to do again.
Ol' Timer
November 30th, 2011
11:35 pm
@td: You’re right. The State of Georgia will go for the GOTP candidate regardless of who it is — even Newt Gingrich. That ought to make your mama proud.
Alabama Communist
November 30th, 2011
11:35 pm
More Breaking News On Herman’s Amazing Brain……A Shink with the CIA said today ” Mr Cain is the classic example of a person we need to fight the war on terror with. He is able to convince people that his Brain has two sides to it and can become a nightmare to the terrorists by simply switching on to his two persona’s at once. We at the CIA usually called such person a Pychopath or a completey lying fool. We also know that his 999 plan means that he has grop 999 women during his twin political and Pizza business career”
BILLY MAYS HERE
November 30th, 2011
11:43 pm
Ol’ Timer
November 30th, 2011
11:35 pm
@td: You’re right. The State of Georgia will go for the GOTP candidate regardless of who it is — even Newt Gingrich. That ought to make your mama proud.
Well firstly, you shouldn’t reply to TD because it only encourages him to post. His posting is god-awful, I mean just look at what you replied to–he thinks that the electoral college is some kind of secretive vote-stealing conspiracy rather than something that the rest of learned in 8th grade civics class. That is the kind of mental giant you and the rest of us are dealing with, so please, don’t reply to him in the future. Thanks.
td
November 30th, 2011
11:59 pm
Our dead drug addict on these blogs really thinks I will not post any longer if people do not reply to my post. I have news for the DA: I have been posting on these blogs since a 2009 and the DA will not deter me one little bit. The left wing and independents need a different point of view and it is my “calling” to make sure they read a different point of view. If you do not like it DA then you can always choose not to read my post.
BTW: DA stands for drug addict and not dumb a$$ because I choose not to act like a great many of the non intellectual libs on these blogs and call people names. I guess I will have to laugh out loud at the DA I go to the polls and cast my vote for the Republican nominee next year knowing that my vote counts and his will not. LOL
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L. R. Glass, Sr.
December 1st, 2011
12:12 am
The harshest court ever assembled is the court of public opinion. All the rules go out the window. One is guilty until proven guilty.
There was something Ms. White said that keeps gnawing at me ever since I heard it. She said that she came out of the closet because she didn’t like the way that the other accusers were being demonized, and she didn’t feel that the “burden of proof” should be on them. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that the way it’s supposed to be? If you accuse me of stealing your car, you’d better make damn sure that it was me and not someone else. THE BURDEN OF PROOF OF ANY WRONGDOING SHOULD BE ON THE ACCUSERS! Anyone can say anything about you. Unless you have proof that can back it up, you deserve to be besmirched and debased once the truth comes to surface. Herman Cain does NOT have to show proof that it didn’t happen; Ginger White MUST prove that it did! Unless….the court of public opinion holds sway. In that case, the truth be damned!
The Kid
December 1st, 2011
12:16 am
Herman(I’s a good nigra)Cain should be great to you Repub. This is what you’ve digressed to. I hope you so called conservatives enjoy the fruits of your labor that produces the likes of Scumbag Newt. I say these things as complimentary as I can. The two of these characters add a slimey feel to the Repub primary circus. In fact, they add a slimey feel to everthing that’s good and honest about human society.
curious
December 1st, 2011
12:17 am
Enter your comments here
Isn’t adultery a criminal offense in Georgia? Why hasn’t someone called for an investigation?
BILLY MAYS HERE
December 1st, 2011
12:27 am
When you read a TD post and think about replying, just remember: NO
Ken'Trice
December 1st, 2011
12:52 am
These pre-emptive interviews are an interesting new tactic.
What will be next: “Tomorrow someone is going to allege that I held up the _____ Bank in _____ Georgia at about 10:20 a.m. on Thursday the 2nd of March 19__. This is just more conspiracy and character assassination that I will not dignify with an answer.”
double
December 1st, 2011
1:18 am
When I read a TD post I think of the 103 year old lady being evicted.TD would evict her and say she deserved it because she made a wrong decision at sometime in her life,
Deborah Montesano
December 1st, 2011
2:19 am
I think the relevance of Herman Cain at this point is that his behavior is such a reflection of what the Republican Party is really like. In “Cain, Republicans, and the Predatory Mind”, I draw parallels that I think are obvious. http://thepoliticali.blogspot.com/2011/11/cain-republicans-and-predatory-mind.html
kreedham
December 1st, 2011
3:03 am
While I’m not a republican I honestly believe that the choices the republican’s will have in 2016 will, by far, be better than the choices they have now. I believe many republicans right now are saying…”is this the best we’ve got!”
As far as the dems, if Hilary has any intention of running, I think, after the election Biden should step down, Hilary be appointed VP, then Biden becomes Sec of State. Will certainly be easier for her in 2016 if she’s already VP.
Buckhead Boy
December 1st, 2011
5:33 am
This is a man who thought it cute to spin a yarn about his father threatening another Woodruff servant with his marksmanship to protect the largesse, and yet you are convinced that Mr. Cain would not prey upon less powerful and financially distressed women?
Chris Petersen
December 1st, 2011
5:57 am
I would like to live in a world where we are judged on what we can do and what we stand for. None of us is perfect and I have been there. Bill Clinton denied rape and sexual assault and even took advantage of a young woman in the White House. People then said, ?but he is such a good president, we should not condemn him for his personal failings.” We seem to be overlooking what Newt did to two wives as well. I don’t see why we are holding Herman to a higher standard.
cloudodust
December 1st, 2011
6:57 am
Cain is being convicted of a 13 year affair in the court of public opinion with questionable evidence from a questionable woman that has lived her life on the side of errors and mistakes. Ms White has the burden of proof to make her case. To date, she hasn’t. A photo of Ms White sitting in Herman’s lap could do it (Gary Hart–Donna Rice). Albeit, we do have proof of Obama’s failings as president. Let’s focus there or isn’t the failings of a Democrat president newsworthy anymore?
Straight Talk
December 1st, 2011
7:34 am
Compartmentalized? Millions have been spent to insure we know nothing about Obama! Hypocrite Jim, when are you going to explore that?
jlfda
December 1st, 2011
7:44 am
dd
November 30th, 2011
9:02 pm
were you not paying attention: cain made no settlement and paid no money and has no confidentiality agreement. the nra did those things and it is between the nra and the other party to agree to release the info. now quit talking out of your a$$Z
darb
December 1st, 2011
8:07 am
American voters rolled the dice once and let a black man break the glass ceiling to become president, and look where that has gotten us? Not going to happen again.
honested
December 1st, 2011
8:19 am
As it has been said before…
All you cain supporters, stand strong. Send his campaign every penny you can afford. Even send them any money you had set aside for State House and Senate races. Certainly send the money you might have earmarked for a Congressional race.
Send them the money you had planned to tithe. Send them what you had planned to pay in dues to the Chamber of Commerce, ALEC, Americans for Progress, or any other opinion driving group.
Send it all today to friends of cain.
You, and Georgia, will feel much better in the long run.
Hazel
December 1st, 2011
8:20 am
“Ms White has the burden of proof to make her case. To date, she hasn’t. ”
Texts, phone records, and his admission he was “helping her out” financially, without telling his wife. At best, it shows very poor judgement to run without getting all of this out of the way beforehand.
How many married men “help” a woman out financially without letting their family know? Doesn’t pass the smell test.
Married for life
December 1st, 2011
8:26 am
Strange—Cain has to meet with his wife before deciding up on his candidacy. Doesn’t he ever talk with her on the phone? Or travel with her? Or spend any time with her? No wonder she doesn’t know he’s hanging out with troubled women.
Frederick Douglass
December 1st, 2011
8:27 am
darb
Just where did it get us indeed? I’ll tell you where it got us, it got us to a point where an intelligent Harvard trained, compassionate individual has to become essentially a janitor cleaning up a mess that an ignorant cowboy wannabee left him. “Let a black man break the glass ceiling”, as if no black has a right to be president, but idiots like Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann, or Sarah Palin are waved through to the top if they so desire. Dude, everybody the GOP is running is infinitely more flawed than Obama could ever be.
Real Athens
December 1st, 2011
8:27 am
TD says:
“Guess what: If you plan on going to the polls and voting for Obama next year in Georgia then you might as well stay home and not vote because YOUR VOTE WILL NOT BE COUNTED. All 16 votes from Georgia will be cast for the Republican nominee and Zero votes will be cast for Obama.”
What an aspiration! However, an accurate prediction. Georgia will continue to be an inconsequential, regional player where GOP domination provides ample opportunities for graft and mismanagement reigns statewide. All the while “tea Parties” strive to keep them all in office as long as there is an -R- beside their name.
Mark
December 1st, 2011
8:46 am
@ BILLY MAYS HERE
December 1st, 2011
12:27 am
When you read a TD post and think about replying, just remember: NO
I’m way ahead of you!
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December 1st, 2011
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Be Careful What You Wish For!
December 1st, 2011
9:05 am
@darb December 1st, 2011 8:07 am – American voters rolled the dice once and let a black man break the glass ceiling to become president, and look where that has gotten us? Not going to happen again.
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So that’s what “YOU” people do? RolI the dice to elect a “Black” man?
Well black people have been ROLLING THE DICE electing WHITE MEN AND WHERE DID THAT GET US?
Whats good for the GOOSE is good for the GANDER!
What is good for ‘YOU’ is equally good for ‘US’; or, what “YOU” can have or do, so can “WE” have or do.
Rich Jones
December 1st, 2011
9:31 am
All these people saying it doesn’t matter, I’m sure you feel the same way about gay people. Hypocrites.
Frederick Douglass
December 1st, 2011
9:36 am
This next presidential election is going to be too close call to right now. However; if the Supreme court upholds the Health Care act, and Obama wins re-election, that’s going to go a long ways toward driving a stake into the heart of the white notion that they should have everything their way.
Real Athens
December 1st, 2011
10:31 am
Straight Talk:
“… Millions have been spent to insure we know nothing about Obama! Hypocrite Jim, when are you going to explore that?”
Please expound on the latest conspiracy theories.
Herman Cain is a philanderer. He’s not alone, nor is he the first, but a philanderer he is. Now say it doesn’t matter and move on. At the same time, cast aside all the family values, Christian, hyperbole.
Be Careful What You Wish For!
December 1st, 2011
12:08 pm
@Real Athens December 1st, 2011 10:31 am “… Millions have been spent to insure we know nothing about Obama! Hypocrite Jim, when are you going to explore that?”
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Get Real Real. If there were ANYTHING…ANYTHING…ANYTHING in Obama’s closet if would have fallen out by now.
“You” people looked under EVERY….EVERY rock, looked through EVERY….EVERY closet and I bet they even went to the MOON and they still COULD NOT find anything!
Why don”t “YOU” people realize that Obama is an educated black man who is a husband and father who has lived his life in a moral and ethical way.
The people you need to explore are the ones that go around talking about FAMILY VALUES!
Beware of WOLVES in sheeps clothing! They are called HYPOCRITES!
Be Careful What You Wish For!
December 1st, 2011
12:19 pm
You people CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
YOU people deny, suppress, or minimize what we know to be true about Herman Cain.
YOU assert, adorn, and elevate what we know to be false about Obama.
liberalefty
December 1st, 2011
12:45 pm
OBAMA needs to teach these wh@remongers about family values
darb
December 2nd, 2011
8:14 am
Cain is going home to GA today to tell his wife why he gave money to this woman, but he is still trying to convince all of us it was just money from the heart, and no sex involved? As they say “and pigs can fly”? I say he will not have the support of his wife and family going forward, he has done things that many men do, but that isnt right, and that will not allow him to be President of the US. Too much in this mans closet keep coming out. Cain i down for the count, lets move on.
darb
December 2nd, 2011
3:43 pm
I just read a story that Cain will make his decision tomorrow (Sat) to the public, saying his “wife and family come first”. My guess is we wont have Cain on the podium any longer. Probably a good thing.
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4:33 pm
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Frank Echlin
December 3rd, 2011
10:25 am
what’s the big deal? Jesse Jackson took his girlfriend with him when he went to council Pres. Clinton during the Monica Lewinsky affair. Cai just loves dat white meat……….ha ha ha ha
darb
December 3rd, 2011
6:03 pm
Good bye herman, too many skeletons in your closet. Guess you didnt think folks would find out or care?