Herman Cain ‘reassessing’ his presidential bid
We’re getting slightly mixed message from Herman Cain’s campaign staff on whether the candidate intends to remain in the Republican presidential hunt. From the Associated Press in Atlanta:
Herman Cain’s Iowa campaign chairman [says] that the candidate is reassessing his presidential campaign a day after an Atlanta businesswoman alleged a 13-year extramarital affair with the Republican.
Steve Grubbs says that on a conference call with senior staff early Tuesday, Cain said the allegations have taken an emotional toll on his family but that he’s moving ahead with the campaign.
Still, Grubbs said Cain told his staff he would be reassessing how to move forward given that the allegations have damaged his fundraising.
The Iowa chairman said Cain still planned to deliver a foreign policy speech in Michigan later Tuesday.
On the other hand, Daniel Malloy, the AJC’s man in Washington, just got off the phone with Cain spokesman J.D. Gordon, who sent this note:
Gordon acknowledged that Cain in a staff call this morning used the word “reassess” about the campaign, but said it was not about whether or not he was going to drop out. Similar reassessments took place after the Iowa straw poll and at one point when the campaign was low on money, he said.
“My interpretation of that is that we are looking to assess where we are at today and where we need to be moving into the primary,” Gordon said.
The campaign will rethink what states Cain visits, the types of speeches he gives and what interviews he conducts.
National Review Online was listening in on the five-minute conference call, and has already produced a transcript.
Earlier this morning, Atlanta radio talk show host Neal Boortz, for whom Cain often subbed on AM750 and 95.5FM News/Talk WSB, said that it might be time for Cain to leave the race.
Boortz was touted on Monday as a VIP who would be attending the Saturday opening of Cain’s new Georgia headquarters in DeKalb County.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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td
November 29th, 2011
3:41 pm
Realists
November 29th, 2011
3:32 pm
Obama had a filibuster proof Congress for two years. Name any other President that has had that much power? What did he accomplish? He spent a year passing a health care bill that the majority of the American people said they did not want. He spent $1 trillion on a stimulus package to bail out unions and public sector employees. What else did he really accomplish? Where was the jobs package? Reagan worked with a Congress of a different party and got things accomplished. Clinton worked with Newt and turned the economy around.
He has shown no leadership and has shown to be totally out of touch with the American people and the needs of the people. He had the power and Congress did not hold his agenda up. He does not deserve another term and those are the real facts.
luangtom
November 29th, 2011
3:42 pm
While it may be amazing to many that the Democrats soon forgot that their man Bill had an affair while in the White House, they have the media behind their current darling in the White House. No big out-cry over not calling a Christmas Tree a Christmas Tree…..it is now a Holiday Tree. No outrage that he still has not shown he is eligible for balloting by providing a valid birth-certificate. No outrage that he cow-tows to every Muslim country in the world. Afterall, he has the media behind him. He is their darling.
We will continue to see the Republicans self-destruct and destroy themselves. We will have Obama for another four years and we will have a national catastrophe, martial law will be declared in some form or another and there will be no need for a Congress. Afterall, we have the media darling to run the country even deeper into a socialist state. All will soon forget Obama told us he “will create millions of jobs”. Then, “I will save millions of jobs.” Now, it is a new battle-cry to soon be determined.
Afterall, he is the media darling.
ld
November 29th, 2011
3:44 pm
A reasonable degree of practical compassion means REQUIRING a reasonable degree of individual responsibillity. Fair and just capitalism means that the worker that makes the employer rich earns a living wage and the executive that craps out gets nothing.
honested
November 29th, 2011
3:44 pm
To all the misguided wrong-wingers, DEMOCRATS DID NOT DO THIS!!
We would love to see the likes of cain, newt, bachman, santorum, perry or even trump in the clown seat.
Cain did this to himself by being so arrogant as to assume his past would not be mentioned!
So, as long as the gop must chose a candidate by their blind allegiance to buzzwords and failed ideology, this is the sort of deeply flawed and unqualified candidate that will float to the top.
You got what you asked for!
CmdrR
November 29th, 2011
3:45 pm
“13-year-old affair” ? And, is it really spelled “claimes” ?
Anyway… It’s amazing that Cain lasted this long, or that this revelation knocked him out, and not his utter lack of qualifications or statesmanship, or demeanor, or charisma, or intelligence, or… etc.
I’m not sure the GOP did itself a favor by revving things up a year early. It’s certainly made the party leadership appear incapable of policing itself. Seriously, whether 7 of the 8 (or whatever number at the dias) aren’t nominated, they ALL represent GOP goals. In theory, anyway. It’s been a sloppy show so far.
Double Pepperoni & Cheese
November 29th, 2011
3:45 pm
This woman has some genuine ammunition. Not good looks, but apparently something got her paid. Hard to understand why Cain would jeopardize himself by associating with her record of fraudulence and joblessness. Nothing wrong with helping people but this looks ugly. Such a disappointment, but once again, this is standard of leadership these days, dire chaos. What’s down in the well is going to come up in the bucket. I’m not a hater, it’s the games people play with our lives. Herman wasn’t going to win the white house anyway. Well, at least he will still have pizza to eat for a long time…
Concerned Citizen
November 29th, 2011
3:47 pm
Another truth be told is that too many people vote for a candiate based soley on the “cover and not the book”…”oh he or she looks like me I’ll vote for them.”
clem
November 29th, 2011
3:50 pm
td, think you need to check your facts on filibuster proofness:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/110th_United_States_Congress
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster
The Truth
November 29th, 2011
3:52 pm
Do you idiot Republicans actually think that as bad as you say that Obama is that someone would vote for a Republican for President after the last two failures you guys had? George H.W.’s economic policies were a failure and he ended up being a ‘one-termer’. George W. ruined the economy and brought on the melt-down of Wall Street in 2008 and took us to a three trillion dollar failure of a war that was based on lies.
Looks like you guys are the clowns, Bozos or whatever you want to call it… Now you have Newt Gingrich who was a lobbyist for Freddie and Fannie and the pimp-pastor, Herman Cain. You guys are a joke and everyone know it… LOL.
td
November 29th, 2011
3:53 pm
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ld
November 29th, 2011
3:54 pm
Aside from the fact that Obama did in the two years past call the tree a “Christmas” tree–WTF difference does it make if he did not use YOUR preference of adjective? December 25 is a date even most biblical historians will acknowledge is not the exact date of Jesus, so those that want to put the “Christ” back in “Christmas” are overheated and making much ado about nothing.
For those of you that are real big on pputting “Christ” back in “Christmas”, I make a reading suggestion–a Christain magazine:
THE GOOD NEWS MAGAZINE: http://www.GNmagazine.org or they’ll send you FREE–yes F R E E — a Christian magazine — every few months — just for the asking. The November/December 2011 issue has an article beginning at page 20: “Do You Know the Surpriosing Origins of the Christmas Holiday?” They have a separate booklet on the same subject.
I strongly object to some of the positions this current president has taken and find Obama rather inept; however, let’s be critical where it matters — there’s enough of that to consider — Obamacare, etc. — without irrelevant clutter.
ld
November 29th, 2011
3:55 pm
td
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ld
November 29th, 2011
3:58 pm
To Cain supporters:
Cain used the media to sell his books and have a good time on contributed $–that seems to have been is expectation if not his wet dream–and more power to him in that regard–just don’t expect those of us w/any sense to want him as president.
td
November 29th, 2011
3:59 pm
ld
November 29th, 2011
3:44 pm
“Fair and just capitalism means that the worker that makes the employer rich earns a living wage”
What is a living wage? How much money is a living wage? How much profit should a business owner make?
It all depends on the skill set the worker brings to the table. Example: At Microsoft the top three founders are billionaires and the next 200 are millionaires. These people worked long hours for less money to begin with and now it has paid off for them. There were months and even years where Gates, Allen and Balmer barely made enough to eat but now they are super rich because they brought a product to market that the market demanded. People that have went to work with MS in the past several years do not make this type of money because there current skill set and there aversion to risk (the market) does not make them worth as much.
Mr. Thomas Anthony Jones, Sr
November 29th, 2011
4:00 pm
As a loyal Yellow-Dog African-American Democratic Voter and Contributor I hate to go after Rev. Herman Cain, but you have to do your duty when you see a sinner. Where those rockis I piled up. As a Democrat I noticed the Republicans ore the Party of Marriage and Morality. If they are God is up there laughing. Let run down list. President Eisenhower had a affair with his female driver; Gov. Nelson Rockefeller was a divorcee;Newt Gingrich dumped his sick wife who had Ovarian Cancer at the Hospital;McClain dumped his wife as soon as he got away from my boys in Hanoi; and now Reverend Cain is chasing white women’s skirts. And the Republican Tea Part racists claim they are Party of morality. Didn’t that hypocrite Gingrich have an affair while he was charging the First African-American President Clinton of Adultery? Didn’t he hypocrites? Yeah I throw rocks. Anytime I see a lying Republican I throw throw rocks.
ld
November 29th, 2011
4:01 pm
Good News Magazine booklets are also free. Yes, they will accept donations.
They have a lot to say about the USA & EU roll in the “end times” and a lot of other interesting literature.
SJR
November 29th, 2011
4:01 pm
Cain clearly did not think through his decision to run for president. Cain and the rest of his idiot republican candidates need to drop out of the race. Any U.S. citizen that has a brain, or a drop of common sense would not even consider voting for a Republican. It is amazing how soon everyone forgot who got this country into this mess in the first place, and how everyone expected Obama to fix this mess overnight. Everyone needs to wake up, and realize that it is going to take a lot longer than 3 years to get things done. I don’t care what anyone says, Obama has accomplished more in 3 years than Bush did his entire 8 years in office. We finally got an intelligent President who has good ideas, and is trying to implement them, but it is difficult when he has the party of “NO” shooting down everything he presents. The bottom line is that it is all about race…if Obama were white, all of his ideas would be golden. Instead, the Repub’s would love to see the President fail. I would rather go another 4 years with our current President, than to risk falling back into the 18th century with the idiot Repubs that have put the country in the position that we are in now.
Obama 2012!!!!!
The Ruthless Way
November 29th, 2011
4:04 pm
@honested
“So, as long as the gop must chose a candidate by their blind allegiance to buzzwords and failed ideology, this is the sort of deeply flawed and unqualified candidate that will float to the top.
You got what you asked for!”
That’s pretty funny….that’s exactly how all us GOP/Independent voters feel about you Liberals and your choices for president. A.K.A. I can’t lead my way out of a paper bag, but take all the credit from a liberal and biased media who give all liberal drones talking points to blab on blogs OBAMA!!! It’s time for change. Get over it!
Chan
November 29th, 2011
4:04 pm
Why does everything with Horny Herman always lead to reASSessing.
Chip
November 29th, 2011
4:05 pm
I agree with ya td. What do we have to lose? I remember when there were no republicans here in the first place to confuse our society. Peace be with y’all.
Chip
honested
November 29th, 2011
4:09 pm
ruthless,
So why did you guys elect the predecessor that made the mess?
Didn’t you know that it takes longer and costs more to clean up after a disaster than it does to prevent the disaster from happening?
I guess it is hard for you not to look at shrub and not think ‘heck of a job’, right?
The CHANGE needs to be in the House, before the teaklan re-breaks the world.
Samford99
November 29th, 2011
4:10 pm
I am embarassed to live in a red state. Collectively, we are ruining the United States of America and thus the world. I think people must go out and vote democrat so that we can restore the south. Otherwise, southern culture will be forever lost. Northern republicans are to blame, although they are not bad people. They are just confused and living a dishonest life. Fake southern accents are everywhere now. I met a small business owner with a pretty deep southern accent. It took me a few minutes until I found out he was from Ohio.
clem
November 29th, 2011
4:10 pm
oops, my mistake on filibuster proofness see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111th_United_States_Congress#Senate
Carol
November 29th, 2011
4:11 pm
Truthbe
Once again the Democrat smear machine at it’s finest work. The Democrats can’t afford a Black Republican Politican with National Support of the People. Because it takes the “Racist Black Vote” away from them and the right to call everybody else racist. And you Black Democrats are playing right into their arms. Get back on the DNC Plantation and stay there boy. And as for if Cain did or didn’t have these affairs you democrats really don’t give a damn because you ALL were there to help and support Clinton when he had all of his affairs. In fact the media cover for him as well as the Womens Lib groups. After all “he’s just a man” Remember????.
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What the heck are you talking about? You guys keep bring up Bill Clinton. Yet you don’t want anyont to talk about GWB our most immediate past president. What makes you think Dems have anything to do with Cain’s problems. Most Dems I know never even believed he was a serious candidate. You don’t see the DNC running ads against Cain. The only time the man’s name comes up is when it’s associated with another “alleged” scandal involving another woman. Don’t look to Dems for causing Cain problems. Look to Karl Rove who emphatically stated that Cain would NOT be the Republican nominee just a week before the first story broke.
cloonfush
November 29th, 2011
4:11 pm
What if he really is innocent and these sleezy broads are all lying for money. An African American Republican President is a huge threat to the race hustlers and the entire Democrat Party.
Frederick Douglass
November 29th, 2011
4:12 pm
SJR
‘Risk falling back to the 18th century’
No, the 16th century is more like it. Remember they tried to foist a Henry the VIII look alike (Christie) on us, and now they’re pushing someone who acts like old Henry, (Gingrich).
td
November 29th, 2011
4:13 pm
I will preach with all my juices to make sure that our legislative majority here in Georgia is changed. We are not safe at the mercy of republicans. My neighborhood has lost an estimated value of 28,000,000$ because of republican policies. Think about this please and spread the message.
honested
November 29th, 2011
4:15 pm
cloonfush,
But Colin Powell won’t run with these doofuses and clarence thomas couldn’t get elected.
With the pool empty, there is no threat.
It All Plays Out
November 29th, 2011
4:16 pm
This situation is hubris and karma rolled into one.
The unqualified and politically inexperienced Herman Cain wanted to be a presidential candidate, for whatever private reasons–ego? book tour/sales? future as talk show host? He shot up fast; he was treated as a possible candidate, complete with the predictable examination of his private past…and things have emerged that probably will rule out his candidacy for the voters.
As many have noted here, he should have known that these past actions would come out… the harassment settlements, the financial assistance to this latest “friend.”
And the karma for his hubris, the sad karma? His marriage will probably never be the same…..nor his family……….
The Ruthless Way
November 29th, 2011
4:16 pm
@ honested
I’ve never once said anyhting about Bush or supporting him. However, since you brought up the house and congress and all…I think you may have forgotten that the Dems ran the house and congress for a lot of Bush’s term. SO maybe you should point the finger at the right party? Or is it more fair to say that both parties suck and are at fault? I think if you can put down the kool-aid for one minute and think rationally that both parties are at fault in congress for the mess that we are in.
Unfortunately for us as citizens we elected an inept president to fix this mess that both parties put us in. It’s time to make a change and give something else a shot. People talk about limiting the terms on senators in this blog. I completely agree. I say lets limit Obama to a 4 year term and hopefully a new direction will help get us out of this mess.
RonPaul4President
November 29th, 2011
4:16 pm
AtlantaNative, you hit the nail on the head. Ron Paul is the only guy out there smart enough and honest enough to run this country. Will it happen this time? Doubt it, we’ll get stuck with another liar/loser.
Holden Magroyne
November 29th, 2011
4:18 pm
OBAMA 2012!!!
Independent voter
November 29th, 2011
4:18 pm
All these republican candidates got issue I mean everyone of them. Please 2012 election hurry up so we can put Obama back in office.
cloonfush
November 29th, 2011
4:20 pm
Why is there no outrage that Herman Cain is being made into the stereotypical black male who can not control his sexual urges. What if none of this stuff is true and these women are all being paid handsomely to destroy him?
Carol
November 29th, 2011
4:22 pm
cloonfush
What if he really is innocent and these sleezy broads are all lying for money. An African American Republican President is a huge threat to the race hustlers and the entire Democrat Party.
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Maybe one that really had a chance. How come the Repubs didn’t run somebody like JC Watts. By the way where the heck is he? Or Reggie White? Alan Keyes had tried a few times. Ya’ll have had some guys who really might have been able to pull this off, but you weren’t having it. So now you’re stuck with the likes of Herman Cain.
Repubs talk about not vetting Obama and just looking at the cover. Isn’t that what happened with Cain. You figured he was black and the opposite of Obama except for the family part. He has “executive experience.” He’s a businessman. He’s conservative. He’s the Kochs brothers ‘brother from another mother.’ All you did was read the cover and maybe the foreward. Nobody bothers to read the book all the way through.
ld
November 29th, 2011
4:22 pm
td:
There is an old joke about the body parts arguing about which is more important: brain vs. heart vs. b hole.
The brain was certain it was most valuable; the heart was equally sure it was most valuable. The b hole closed up for several days and the heart and brain began bowing in submission.
What would YOUR quality of life be like if the contractors your city hired quit picking up trash? If janitors etc. did not clean up your mess and the mess of others? If restaurants and dry cleaners and a multitude of other businesses had only their owners to work in them?
Henry Ford–heard of him?–said his workers deserved enough to be able to afford to buy the product they made (automobiles) — I agree. A clerk in a grocery store should earn enough to not need foodstamps–so should our enlisted personnel in the military–those w/families often do not.
In years past, open violence against Union members was the norm. The investors of the employer class want $ to be free speach w/regard to their interests in political debate (applaud recent Supreme Court decisions; hire lobbyists en mass) but want to deny the employee class the same or any semblence of GROUP OR ORGANIZED CLOUT.
I’ve never been a member of any union; in my experienc– the only place I ever worked where there was a union–I did more work for less pay (because of senority issue) than the union members except when I was shift supervisor and made extra. Unions are not all good, but giving the employer class the clout they now have has drowned out the voices of the employee class with regard to laws–all kinds of laws. That is corrupted capitalism. The US is a corrupted representative government because the “democratically” elected representatives has been corrupted and their incentive for what is ‘good’ governence has been corrupted in furtherence of their own best interest–and they have made the laws that enabled this to be so by using their $ to ADVERTISE–spin–indoctrinate voters into knee-jerk decisions.
The dozen million illegals keep wages low–as GOP’s sainted Ronald Reagan intended when he wanted them to have amnesty. The GOP uses the illegal immigration issue to stir the masses yet will NOT punish the employer/lessor class w/$ and jail time for hiring or renting to the illegals. As long as there is this job$ draw, the flood will continue and supply and demand will keep wages low.
These are just a begining of what I mean by class warfare and fair and just capitalism. The working class US citizen has been pixxed on by “trickle down” economics for decades. Enough already.
An article in Rolling Stone magazine November 24 issue (available on line)identifies corrupt captialism at work in government.
Either you are among the wealthiest 15% in the country and part of the employer/lessor class that has been “making a killin’ ” under trickle down or you’ve been ‘drinkin th kookaid’ too long.
Frederick Douglass
November 29th, 2011
4:23 pm
cloonflush
An African American Republican president is never going to happen. Herman Cain has single handedly made that possibility a bridge too far. For all of his silly inane talk, he has crystallized the myths that many right wing racists have about blacks, the man accomplished next to nothing of substance.
The Ruthless Way
November 29th, 2011
4:23 pm
Ron Paul and his foreign policies will hurt us. Other than that I think he’s a great candidate.
honested
November 29th, 2011
4:24 pm
rutheless,
So in repug math, 2 years with a small majority and a veto happy clown is equal to ‘Dems ran the House and Congress for a lot of Bush’s term’.
Democrats were elected in 2006 to START REPAIRING the disasters wrought from 2001-2006. The 2008 results helped things along.
With appropriate responses from Congress since 2008, things would be farther along but I, for one, am quite pleased with the progress that has slowly been occurring.
I just wish so called ‘conservatives’ could see the absolute failure of their ideology and either help or get out of the way.
Shaking your fist doesn’t change the facts.
Carol
November 29th, 2011
4:25 pm
The Ruthless Way
Ron Paul and his foreign policies will hurt us. Other than that I think he’s a great candidate.
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Ron Paul actually does have some good ideas. I think his biggest problem is some of his bad ideas are so extreme they are scary. He sounds like Jekyll and Hyde to me. He’ll say something I really agree with and then out of nowhere come up with some absurd resolution for another problem.
sheepdawg
November 29th, 2011
4:28 pm
newt’s next. this is too funny to be real, yet hardline gop’ers are oblivious. idiots
Amazing Comments
November 29th, 2011
4:28 pm
Samford 99:
What does voting Democratic have to do with “restoring the South”, whatever that means? And what does any of that have to do with Herman Cain and his problems (subject of this column)? Just wondering…
The Ruthless Way
November 29th, 2011
4:29 pm
@honested…ever heard of Barney Franks? Just asking. Maybe you should look at who had critical roles during a lot of that mess when it was happening. And as you say it takes years and years for things to occur. A lot of this mess could have been avoided if policies had been put in place during Clintons term in the mid 90’s. Go back and research it. Instead of doing that you want to get all over Bush and congress, rightfully so I might add, for not “fixing” the issues. Well we elected Obama to do just that. Guess what? He hasn’t fixed anything. He has made it worse. I’m not real sure how liberals can be proud of the fact that he “stopped” the bleeding when unemployment is down even worse, higher defecit, spending even more, etc, etc, etc. It should be going in the reverse direction. Stop sippn that purple syzurip and get back to reality. Oh and I love pugs by the way. Cute dogs.
sheepdawg
November 29th, 2011
4:30 pm
just imagine….perry/ bachman would be the most comical tandem since….bush and cheney
ld
November 29th, 2011
4:32 pm
Even you GOP employer class golfers know about “handicap”?
Beginning in the shrub’s war-president hole, McCAIN would have not been able to right our ship of state even if he had won instead of Obama.
“Conservatives” want to conserve the status quo–the lingering EFFECT of eight hears of governence by oil slick Dick under the figurehead of Bush; if you think the status quo is acceptable, but those bushhogs back in office. Otherwise, hope the current inept fellow has begun to learn from his mistakes or, preferably, let’s find someone new.
Not all of Ron Paul’s ideas are nuts. On the plus–and minus side–some of those that are, he REALLY strongly believes.
The Ruthless Way
November 29th, 2011
4:32 pm
@ Carol….yeah I call him the alien candidate lol. He does sound cooky sometimes. I think thats part of why he could be good because he is so different. However his foreign policy views do not mix with mine. We would become insignificant in the world militarily and while no one likes war does anyone really want to see a communist or totalitarian nation rise up and taking others out at the expense of being isolationists? I dont.
cartoon
November 29th, 2011
4:34 pm
Cain? If you look up “unelectable” in the dictionary, then you would see a picture of that idiot.
R
November 29th, 2011
4:37 pm
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Cain’s toast, too many character issues to overcome, will drop out by week’s end, which will be big boom for Gingrich.”
Losing to Gingrich based on his relationship’s character- I just can’t wrap my head around this one at all. Or was it the “I didn’t have sex with this woman” statement?
ld
November 29th, 2011
4:41 pm
Remember Ross Perot? If he had been as good at finding solutions as he was at succinctly identifying problems, he would have had promise. As I recall his solution to everything was to “form a committee”–we see what (super) committees are capable of resolving.
I agree with the fervent GOPer among us that we need someone to LEAD; we just disagree on the correct direction. Before “In God We Trust” the US motto translated something along the lines of: from many, one or one among many. We need to get back to that basic–we, the people, the many as opposed to just the few, should be able to prosper. Personally, many of us do not want a half dozen homes; most of us would just settle for one we could keep in good condition and not need to permanently share ownership of it w/a mega-for-profit corrupt financial institution who thinks a “meeting of the minds” in a credit contract is they get to change it at any time in their favor.
yes, many folk bought homes they could not afford; but that was what builders were building and affordable homes–to rent and/or buy– were gobbled up by Ronnie Reagans dozen million invasion sanctioned to keep wages low.
Carol
November 29th, 2011
4:41 pm
Mr. Thomas Anthony Jones Sr.
Didn’t that hypocrite Gingrich have an affair while he was charging the First African-American President Clinton of Adultery? Didn’t he hypocrites? Yeah I throw rocks. Anytime I see a lying Republican I throw throw rocks.
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Please don’t call Clinton the first AA President. It ticked me off when he was in office and I really hate it now.
I for one didn’t give Clinton a pass on the cheating. But I had a bigger problem with him lying about it. Admit it, you and your wife deal with it and move on. But don’t lie to the whole nation.
The other example of Repubs amnesia (and I know you’re not one but it just came to me) is the they forget that they are the ones always pushing the family values mantra. It’s not like Dems are Godless Hedonistic heathens. We acknowledge that humans are flawed and accept that they will work on being better. According to the Bible that I read that’s how it works. Repubs on the other hand act as those they were there sitting beside God as he gave direction found in the Bible and them alone. So when people rip one of your candidates for ‘falling’ it’s because you put youselves up on the friggin’ pedestal in the first place. “for all have sinned and come short…” Dems get that. Repubs pretend that scripture doesn’t exist. If one of theirs messes up they either make them quickly go away or resort to bringing up Bill Clinton.