Your morning jolt: Company behind Atlanta study pulls plug on stem cell research
The California-based company behind a pioneering experiment at the Shepherd Center in Atlanta – studying whether human embryonic stem cells can be used to repair spinal injuries — announced Monday it would halt the research and focus on developing two cancer drugs.
Geron was the first company ever permitted to conduct embryonic stem cell tests on humans. From McClatchy-Tribune News Service:
Although the company has sufficient finances to cover its cancer-drug costs over the next 20 months without having to raise more money, it noted in a news release, “this would not be possible if we continue to fund the stem cell programs at the current levels.”
…Besides the spinal research, Geron had been studying human embryonic stem cells as possible treatments for such ailments as diabetes, heart disease and cartilage repair. The company said it would attempt to seek “partners” to continue the research and “will retain a core group of employees from its stem cell operations” through the first half of next year to “facilitate transfer of these programs” to someone else.
The experiment at the Shepherd Center involved 21-year-old nursing student Timothy Atchison, who was paralyzed from the chest down after a car crash.
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Gloria Cain, wife of GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain, was interviewed by Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren last night. See all the clips here. The primary topic was sexual harassment, but some good biographic information is included as well. The Cains’ first date was a Charlton Heston movie at Lenox Square.
This was how the Gloria Cain interview ended:
VAN SUSTEREN: After the first woman — but after the second woman, rather, when the more graphic descriptions came out — did you confront him about that one and say, what’s up with that, or not?
G. CAIN: No.
VAN SUSTEREN: Did he say anything to you?
G. CAIN: No. I heard his comments with his news conference.
VAN SUSTEREN: You didn’t ask him — you didn’t, the two of you when you were together you didn’t ask him?
G. CAIN: No, because I listened to what she said. And I’m thinking, no, I’m sorry. That’s — some of the things that you’re saying about him, that’s not Herman. So, no, I didn’t ask him about that. And I’m not being naive.
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U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood should be on the ground now in Savannah, in the midst of a tour of the Port of Savannah with Gov. Nathan Deal and Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed. Both Georgians obviously will be pressing LaHood for several hundred million dollars for dredging the port – to allow it to take in larger cargo ships.
One topic unlikely to come up is U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss’ Monday declaration that Georgia might be willing to dicker about the federal government’s share in the project. From the Savannah Morning News:
U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss wants a second look at a formula calling for the federal government to pay 60 percent of Savannah harbor deepening costs.
“I think it’s incumbent … on the federal government to pay its fair share,” Chambliss told reporters Monday. “Now what is that … ? There might be a re-evaluation based on the financial climate we’re in.”
…A decade-old law calls for a 60 percent federal share of the estimated $625 million tab — or $372 million — and for the state to pay the rest, $253 million.
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Jekyll Island Authority Chairman Bob Krueger doesn’t think much of the recent Georgia Lottery Corporation study of the money that might be generated from a casino on his island. From the Florida Times-Union:
“You’ve all seen the news about the Georgia Lottery Commission’s recommendation to have casino gambling on Jekyll Island,” Krueger said. “Well, the authority stands firm that there won’t be an increase in gambling beyond what currently exists — lottery tickets and maybe a few side bets on golf games.”
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From an interview with convicted Washington lobbyist Jack Abramoff by The Hill newspaper in D.C.:
Q: Do you continue to have relationships with Grover Norquist, Ralph Reed, Bob Ney, Tom DeLay, Mike Scanlon or any of the other people you worked closely with in the past?
Abramoff: Well, of that list, I’ve talked to Tom DeLay, and Scanlon’s in prison, so I can’t have any contact with him.
Bob Ney sent me a note on Facebook.
I haven’t had any contact with Grover, and Ralph Reed, I haven’t had any contact with.
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The AJC’s Politifact Georgia today takes a look at this Sept. 15 statement from U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Marietta:
“With an extra 8 million Americans projected to join state Medicaid programs in the next few years, state governments need the flexibility to make cost-saving reforms to Medicaid in order to balance their budgets.”
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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Aquagirl
November 15th, 2011
9:23 am
Big Pharma wins again.
Bill Orvis White
November 15th, 2011
9:30 am
Gloria Cain is the classiest woman alive. While I love Speaker Gingrich and think that he would be a fine president, I still pray for Herman Cain….. With that fact clearly laid out here on this lefty blog, I am thrilled that this stem cell thing will thankfully die in the South. WE THE PEOPLE in the South know that we serve the Lord and we ought to not to disrespect the Lord by trying to play God. Playing around with stem cells, cloning and eggs is wrong, anti-biblical and anti-American.
Amen,
Bill
td
November 15th, 2011
9:32 am
Looks like Stem Cells is not panning out to be the miracle cure that all these libs thought it was. Bush made the correct decision on how to research the issue. I wonder if any of you libs will acknowledge this one?
Concerned Atlantan
November 15th, 2011
9:34 am
Why, exactly, is Kasim Reed in Savannah? Is he trying to ruin 2 Georgia cities?
whatdoiknow
November 15th, 2011
9:41 am
CA:
Look at it this way . . . If Mayor Reed is in Savannah that means he is doing less damage to Atlanta. I wonder . . . Did his brother drive him to Savannah?
DannyX
November 15th, 2011
9:43 am
“Looks like Stem Cells is not panning out to be the miracle cure that all these libs thought it was.”
Wrong again td, you are making things up again.
Try to read first!
November 15th, 2011
9:43 am
@td – Where does it say that the research is failing? It’s a matter of funding you genius! READ!
Aquagirl
November 15th, 2011
9:55 am
Since td is too lazy to read, here’s what the president/CFO of Geron said: “Although no problems have turned up so far in the stem cell study, Geron’s cancer-drug studies are further along, making them a better bet for the company to pursue”
It’s about the bottom line, not medicine. Duh. td will no doubt be happy those blastocysts will be thrown into the trash instead of producing stem cells. The dignity of human life and all that.
John K
November 15th, 2011
10:01 am
Read? Isn’t that something elitists do?
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
10:06 am
This research was critical to the spinal benefits of stem cells. I hate to see it go away. You would think they would be able to find the funding to continue this program.
Little Engine
November 15th, 2011
10:09 am
The burn rate on the money was more than Geron could sustain. They are looking for a partner to take it over. That will be tough. The truth is money will be a factor in embryonic stem cells, adult bone marrow stem cells or even cord blood cells. The “first in human” trials are very expensive. This trial ends early with zero ill affects at this point in the study and the patients already will continue to be followed.
rudikkingme
November 15th, 2011
10:10 am
You know, growing up in America in the fifties and sixties, it became a cliche to say that all the politicians were crooks. My aunts and uncles wouldn’t need much more than a couple of blasts at parties to become entrenched in the bitter rhetoric of the disenfranchised electorate who comprise 99% of all the democrats, (apparently).
But to listen2abramoff, who served so little time in prison, and who emerged intact with all his millions, and of whom it can be said, “he earned a million dollars per mess hall riot, the dirty rat” is an uniquely American self-fulfilling prophesy tale.
We not only encourage criminals, we pay them. That’s because Capitalism simply doesn’t work without pirates, war, or Japanese schoolgirl lesbian porn. And that’s just a natural borne fact, jack.
shoshanna
November 15th, 2011
10:11 am
The stated outcome of the test by Geron as reported in the original AJC article was NOT whether or not the treatment would heal Timothy, RATHER it was whether or not he developed CANCER from the treatment they GAVE him. Embryonic stem cells are widely known to cause cancer in the recipients.This is WHY venture capitalists don’t invest in embryonic stem cell research, they get the tax payers to fund this type of deadly human experimentation.
The I am so sorry for Timothy. My prayers are with him.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
10:11 am
rudikkingme…..hey how is that OWS thing working out for ya?
william henry talbot walker
November 15th, 2011
10:14 am
If TD could read, he wouldn’t have voted for Sonny twice, and our current disaster, Shady…
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
10:15 am
William….funny Sonny was a great governor and Deal is proving to be worth the vote as well. It is so easy to sit back and point fingers at our local government when the federal government is screwing everything up for them. Great work!
Married for life
November 15th, 2011
10:18 am
“She admitted that she knew about the sexual harassment charges filed against her husband while he served at the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s, but that once the charges were found to be unreliable, Mrs. Cain claimed, ‘From that point on, we had never said anything else about it.’”
Even if I believed my husband was innocent, we would certainly be discussing the public and private impacts on our relationship.
Lynn43
November 15th, 2011
10:18 am
If I am a “lib” because I hope there is a cure for someone who is paralyzed, or relief for a child who has diabetes or an older person who has alzheimer’s disease, then bring on the labels, and I will wear them proudly.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
10:19 am
Lynn….I dont think you are a lib for those feelings…I feel the same.
SexyCool
November 15th, 2011
10:20 am
G.Cain – “So, no, I didn’t ask him about that. And I’m not being naive.”
Um…yeah…okay…what you said.
GaBlue
November 15th, 2011
10:23 am
As any big pharm stockholder can tell you, the big money is in “long-term treatment,” NOT cures! Look at any of the $billion$ worth of advertising they buy every single day. Any of them cure anything? Nope. They all require us to line up at our neighborhood pharmacy every month for the rest of our lives.
The researches are not tasked with curing anything, only with creating marketable products for long-term addiction.
Aquagirl
November 15th, 2011
10:26 am
the stated outcome of the test by Geron as reported in the original AJC article was NOT whether or not the treatment would heal Timothy, RATHER it was whether or not he developed CANCER from the treatment they GAVE him. Embryonic stem cells are widely known to cause cancer in the recipients.
No. Phase I trials are ALWAYS about dosing, safety and tolerablity of a treatment, those are the only questions they are designed to answer. Data on effectiveness is considered, and may mean more or less attention and resources from the company but it’s not an endpoint.
Fake all the concern and moral high ground you want, shoshanna, but you’re making baby Jesus cry.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
10:28 am
Aquagirl…..hahahaha “baby Jesus” “little 8lb 6oz baby Jesus with blue eyes”…..the great words of “Step Brothers”!
td
November 15th, 2011
10:34 am
Lynn43
November 15th, 2011
10:18 am
The lib label is because the libs thought (without any research) that stem cells was a miracle and that we needed to put tons of Federal money into how to use them to find some kind of cure. GWB said lets do some research on what we have and see how it pans out.
It appears that stem cells is not the immediate miracle cure the libs thought it was (not to say that there may not be value down the road) or the private sector would be dumping tons of money in the research and not slowing down the research. GWB did not go overboard and waste the taxpayers money and instead let the private sector find the value.
Edward
November 15th, 2011
10:36 am
The words of Bill Orvis White and td and a few others of their kind could easily be mistaken as spoken by an Islamic extremist. The same ignorant, religious-zealot rants against anything intelligent. No wonder the South is so screwed up.
Ayncoulter
November 15th, 2011
10:45 am
If Herman Cain doesn’t get the GOP nomination, then he definately needs to run as a 3rd party candidate. Also, Michele Bachmann needs to run as a 4th party candidate and, of course, Ron Paul needs to run as a 5th party candidate. That way, good conservatives like me will have some choices.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
10:45 am
td….good point as well.
GaBlue
November 15th, 2011
10:46 am
Edward,
Mr. Bill Orvis White is a satirist. This “td” person is uh…. well, there’s just no point in reading her posts. I hope you aren’t judging all Southerners based on these select ramblings.
quake
November 15th, 2011
10:48 am
EVERYONE should support stem cell research. Did anyone else see this?
Recent research is providing early evidence that adult and embryonic stem cells may be able to replace damaged heart muscle cells and establish new blood vessels to supply them. Discussed here are some of the recent discoveries that feature stem cell replacement and muscle regeneration strategies for repairing the damaged heart.
Source: http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/scireport/chapter9.asp
Aquagirl
November 15th, 2011
10:51 am
“little 8lb 6oz baby Jesus with blue eyes”…..the great words of “Step Brothers”!
Every authentic Nativity scene should include scales.
td
November 15th, 2011
10:52 am
Edward
November 15th, 2011
10:36 am
Please show me where I mentioned anything about religion in my post on this subject? That devil must be in your head this morning for forcing you to make such a bigoted post.
RetiredSoldier
November 15th, 2011
10:54 am
Edward-
Is your post “an eye for an eye”? The highways run in any direction you want to go my friend. You can even leave the drivimg to Greyhound.
ByteMe
November 15th, 2011
10:56 am
td says “Looks like Stem Cells is not panning out to be the miracle cure that all these libs thought it was”
Umm, dude, the two cancer drugs they are pursuing are further along than the spinal injury therapy they were developing — which only had 4 people in a very limited trial — so they are conserving cash, because smaller pharma firms never have enough cash unless they get a therapy to the finish line sooner rather than later.
In this oncology program, besides the main drug Imetelstat Sodium, which is a telomerase inhibitor, is GRN1005. GRN1005 is used to pass the BBB (blood brain barrier). The brain has natural defenses to keep out unwanted agents. Unfortunately medicine is an unwanted agent to the body. GRN1005 is in a combo phase 1 and 2 trial. So far encouraging results have been seen. There is a 20% response rate using GRN1005 compared to the 2-6% response rate seen from current drugs on the market targeting brain metastases. Since brain cancer treatment is a huge unmet need, the company hopes it can bring this drug as a fast track after phase 2.
You’re better off not starting with a point of view and looking for wrong examples to support it.
DannyX
November 15th, 2011
10:58 am
The Savannah port needs to be deepened so it can handle the new Chinese super tankers that will be carrying drugs they developed from their stem cell investment, research and development.
honested
November 15th, 2011
11:00 am
td,
I don’t recall your posts including references to being a self-deluded hillbilly either, but there it is.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
11:02 am
honested…..try to refrain from name calling.
Aquagirl
November 15th, 2011
11:02 am
Please show me where I mentioned anything about religion in my post on this subject?
Walks like a talibaptist, quacks like a talibaptist…..it’s a talibabtist.
Part of Geron’s financial decision was the cost of “regulatory complexities,” td, I’m sure you’ll decry this big-government interference in a free market. It’s obvious the diabetics and paraplegics are of no concern to you, but people are losing their JOBS because of burdensome federal regulations.That oughta get your wingnut attention. It’s funny you haven’t said a peep.
rudikkingme
November 15th, 2011
11:03 am
Cain’s wife is very much like Lot’s wife, who turned into a pillar of salt, or became a statue. Cain’s wife is that statue to his philandering, the wife who just doesn’t accept what’s happening, in spite of the tumult around her. He must have beat her mercilessly to get that kind of knee jerk defense of an obvious scoundrel, who even lost his temper with reporters when they asked him ’bout the old in and out.
The OWS phenomena is unsustainable because of the unsanitary conditions. If only there had been a larger park with a running stream, then the disenfranchised poor could have taken over wall street and we’d all be rich. But for the lack of one urinal cake, a bathroom was lost, but for the lack of one bathroom, a platform was lost…and But for the lack of one platform, justice was lost. Hey! That’s just like in Macbeth, man!!
td
November 15th, 2011
11:05 am
honested
November 15th, 2011
11:00 am
You are just jealous that far left philosophy you prescribe to is falling apart and the conservative ideology is proving each and everyday to be the correct way proceed in this country.
R U Kidding Me
November 15th, 2011
11:07 am
td:
“Looks like Stem Cells is not panning out to be the miracle cure that all these libs thought it was”
I guess td missed the news story last night on every national network about the breakthrough in using your own stem cells to regrow damaged heart muscles. The medical community said it could be the biggest medical advancement for the treatment of heart disease EVER. It has been successfully done in several human patients with remarkable results.
So once again, td’s mouth doesn’t seem to match up with the facts.
honested
November 15th, 2011
11:08 am
td,
And there you prove you don’t pay attention to current events.
Only on fauxnewz is the ‘CONservative philosophy’ proving anything.
Jackson
November 15th, 2011
11:11 am
Edward….The South is not what’s screwed up. It’s the thinking and acts of the wannabe “politically correct” pseudo intelligent, like you, who have screwed this whole country up.
td
November 15th, 2011
11:12 am
Aquagirl
November 15th, 2011
11:02 am
“It’s obvious the diabetics and paraplegics are of no concern to you,”
We disagree a great deal on these blogs but that is an unfair statement. Just because one does not believe in the government approach to problem solving (government spending tons of taxpayer funds on something that might help) does not mean that a person does not want cures for diseases.
I think solar power, wind power and other alternative energies but I think we have proven the money should not come from the federal government to produce such energies.
honested
November 15th, 2011
11:16 am
jackson,
Could it be that the shrub Administrations ‘Zardoz’ approach to medical research and foreign policy might have added to the elements that ’screwed this country up’?
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
11:17 am
Honested….hey bud, newsflash….FoxNews is the #1 news agency in the country…..hmmmmm I wonder why?
honested
November 15th, 2011
11:18 am
td,
So TAXPAYER FUNDS (the money that comes FROM the Federal Government) should not go to causes that might benefit American Citizens but should only go to solve festering family disputes in middle eastern countries?
Your rationale lacks rationality.
honested
November 15th, 2011
11:19 am
uga,
You might want to look again.
PBS NewsHour has about 3 times the audience on any given night.
But they will pat you on the head for spreading their mis-guidance!
Ayncoulter
November 15th, 2011
11:20 am
td, good point. We should never have had TVA or the Rural Electric Commission either. I think most of GA would be better off using candles. It would be tough to watch the NASCAR races, Fox and use a pc to post stupid things on the AJC board without power, but it’s not like anyone is using their lights to read books.
td
November 15th, 2011
11:20 am
R U Kidding Me
November 15th, 2011
11:07 am
You see studies on the news every other day about how this or that will cure cancer, stop diabetes and so on. Some of them pan out eventually to help cure some disease and some of them do not. My whole point is not that Stem Cells will not eventually become one of these cures. My point is that it is not the Federal governments role to pump billions of dollars into these potential cures.
As Newt has said many times, if it was up to the Federal government with polio we would have the worlds best iron lung but would not have a vaccine to prevent the disease.
DannyX
November 15th, 2011
11:23 am
“I think solar power, wind power and other alternative energies but I think we have proven the money should not come from the federal government to produce such energies.”
That is complete hogwash. Our publicly funded universities help create advances all the time. Agriculture, medical, computer technology, the list goes on and on.
It used to be that conservatives understood the partnership between government and business, but modern conservative ideology is set on destroying it. Ronald Reagan would never stand for it. As governor of California Reagan grew the university system that helped create companies that are now the envy of the world.
China is investing in technology and will soon become dominate because conservatives want to destroy government investment.
carlosgvv
November 15th, 2011
11:23 am
I wounder if Geron’s decision to halt stem cell research has anything to do with the current crazed Tea Party far-right Christian political climate in Georgia?
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
11:24 am
Honested….here is your proof…..WOW! You guys continue to amaze me.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/12/fox-news-channel-marks-nine-full-years-as-top-rated-news-channel.html
yuzeyurbrane
November 15th, 2011
11:26 am
td is back in self-delusional form. Do you realize how hopelessly backward and non-profitable our private drug industry would be but for their enjoying the fruits of taxpayer paid NIH research?
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
11:26 am
Carlos…dont like it? I am sure California would accept you. Maybe.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
11:27 am
yuzeyurbrane….so you are saying you never go to the doctor or get prescriptions? Great, that must mean you are against Obamacare…. I am glad we agree!
honested
November 15th, 2011
11:28 am
uga,
You amaze me.
When a wrong-wing paper gives awards for “news channels” and overlooks the fact that REAL NEWS PROGRAMS continually draw a massively larger audience of clearer thinking, open minded Citizens it just has to make you stop and think.
What’s next, pointing to the ‘highest rated religious channel’ for providing scientific information?
Aquagirl
November 15th, 2011
11:29 am
that is an unfair statement.
No, it’s not.
This research was developed by a private company, and despite the promise, it was discontinued for economic reasons, including costs associated with federal regulation compliance. Your supposed concern over taxpayer’s dollars is completely fake. You’re not fooling anyone.
You are obviously happy this research has been discontinued because you think it’s somehow sticking it to the “libs” and Democrats. That’s a sick, sick train of thought.
So drop the woe is I crying. There are sick people out there, my sympathy is with them and their families, not some blog poster who celebrates setbacks because you think it’s a political win for your imaginary side.
Jon Lester
November 15th, 2011
11:31 am
I appreciate the “Zardoz” reference, honested. One of my favorite movies.
td
November 15th, 2011
11:31 am
honested
November 15th, 2011
11:18 am
Thank you for pointing out the difference in the two philosophies. The Federal governments main role is to “provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare and secure our liberties”. It is not to be in the business of picking which diseases and which companies will be winners and losers in society. Why was aids research worthy of more Federal dollars then children’s diabetes, prostate cancer, stroke research or many other diseases? The government can not be allowed to pick winners and losers and should really be out of the business.
DannyX
November 15th, 2011
11:32 am
“Honested….hey bud, newsflash….FoxNews is the #1 news agency in the country…..hmmmmm I wonder why?”
Conservatives live in their own little reality.
ABC News 8.7 million avg daily viewers last week, NBC News7.65 million and CBS 6.04 million.
Fox News evening news averaged 1.6 million. Their top prime time entertainment show was O’Reilly at 2 million per night.
Fox News is barely on the radar.
honested
November 15th, 2011
11:32 am
carlos,
Our ‘majority party’ here does have it’s misguided nut contingent requiring appropriate pandering.
There certainly must be states that would rather help finance potential breakthrough research.
Of course, here, we have to spend tax money to dig out the Savannah River for no justifiable reason.
honested
November 15th, 2011
11:33 am
DannyX,
My point exactly! Thanks for the numbers.
td
November 15th, 2011
11:36 am
Aquagirl
November 15th, 2011
11:29 am
We do agree that the Federal government regulations should get out of the way of science. I totally disagree with you about the Federal Government should be picking winners and losers in research.
ByteMe
November 15th, 2011
11:36 am
carlos@11:23: the decision was entirely economic… they have other therapies in the company that are further along and only so much cash to get to the finish line. This was early stage therapy, limited trial, lowest dosage to check for adverse reactions (and no adverse reactions were reported). The road for this therapy was likely 5-8 years long… the other therapies they have are further along and likely ready for use in 2-4 years.
honested
November 15th, 2011
11:37 am
td,
So ‘general welfare’ does not include disease prevention/cure research but ‘common defense’ includes settling a family feud?
Do you have to squeeze your head in a vise every morning to attain this sense of ‘reality’?
Jon Lester
November 15th, 2011
11:38 am
It’s not just the numbers. Justifying the veracity of a news source solely on how many people watch is absurd. By that reckoning, American evangelicals need to abandon Protestantism and confess that there is no god but Allah, and Mohammed is his prophet.
GLORIA CAINB
November 15th, 2011
11:38 am
Enter your comments here
GLORIA CAIN
November 15th, 2011
11:40 am
OF course i’m going to lie and stand by my husband. after all i’ve put up with his lusting after white women for 40 yrs.
John K
November 15th, 2011
11:44 am
Exactly correct, Jon. Plus, these Fox News viewers, if they’re going to pull that, must also admit that Obama was indeed the best candidate. After all, he got the most votes.
Aquagirl
November 15th, 2011
11:50 am
I totally disagree with you about the Federal Government should be picking winners and losers in research.
Yes, let’s leave it up to the marketplace. That means type II diabetes (often caused by middle-age laziness) gets more funding and research than type I childhood diabetes.
Go worship your Money-God, td, and don’t ASSume I share your freakish, twisted values.
yuzeyurbrane
November 15th, 2011
11:55 am
UGA 1999–I know you think you are being very clever, and maybe you are and I am dense, but I don’t understand how your comment relates at all to my NIH research fruits comment. I would welcome a clarification even if you call me names.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
11:57 am
Honested…just because you dont like the results doesnt mean that they are not facts. Typical.
Married for life
November 15th, 2011
12:00 pm
“One man gives freely, yet grows all the richer; another withholds what he should give, and only suffers want. A liberal man will be enriched, and one who waters himself will himself be watered.” (Proverbs 11:24-25 RSV)
There is a difference between between being conservative or liberal and being on the Right or the Left. Conservatism is about good stewardship; liberalism is about having a generous attitude toward others. Being an extremist on the Right or Left is about gaining power and controlling others. Controlling governments have never been good for the people. A conservative liberal is probably the right balance.
Personally, though, I like Proverbs 11:22: “Like a gold ring in a swine’s snout is a beautiful woman without discretion.”
weena
November 15th, 2011
12:05 pm
This bores me. We should be discussing DWTS. That black guy can dance. Bet he has new stem cells in his face.
The Captain
November 15th, 2011
12:06 pm
The modern US fight between the “liberals” and “conservatives” at it’s core is more to do with who will shape and run society than anything else. For the liberals, it’s a democratically elected government held accountable to the people through elections that should have more say over what as a society we value. And for conservatives, it’s become and unelected, unaccountable (to the larger masses), elite based on their wealth who should run society.
tobin
November 15th, 2011
12:09 pm
I got ya stem cell right here baby
td
November 15th, 2011
12:09 pm
honested
November 15th, 2011
11:37 am
td,
So ‘general welfare’
You forgot that little word before that says “promote”. To encourage or to be an advocate for. Not to be an active participant in the outcome. This is a prime example of how you progressives twist the words in the constitution to believe that the government is suppose to control outcomes instead of making sure the playing field is fair and to get out of the way of the market place.
“common defense’ includes settling a family feud?”
That is your opinion of the Iraq war. Yes, most conservatives believe that the Iraq war was necessary to make sure our people could stay safe a little while longer. Believe it or not but we will have to do the same in Iran before it is all said and done. You progressives just will not believe that there is 10% of the Islamic world that wants to see the US destroyed and that 10% is currently in power in several countries.
Tracey
November 15th, 2011
12:11 pm
Stem cell research shows great promise. That being said, the majority of successful treatments that have been derived from stem cells has come from stem cells harvested from adult donors, not embryos.
The truth is that there are few, if any, successful studies showing positive results that use embyronic stem cell research. There are, however, many studies and actual treatments that use ADULT stem cells.
It is a shame that the research has come to a halt, but perhaps there will be treatments using adult stem cells that will come out of the failure of the embryonic research.
Additionally, the majority of funding in stem cell research is going to adult stem cell research because that is the area that has already shown successful results. Perhaps the company needs to pursue that avenue!
I pray for a cure to spinal injuries everyday, but if the research is not yielding results, how long is too long to pursue that avenue?
Forgive typos and mis-spellings.
td
November 15th, 2011
12:19 pm
Married for life
November 15th, 2011
12:00 pm
Your myth about the differences between conservatives and liberials just does not add up to reality:
” Sixteen months ago, Arthur C. Brooks, a professor at Syracuse University, published “Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism.” The surprise is that liberals are markedly less charitable than conservatives.
If many conservatives are liberals who have been mugged by reality, Brooks, a registered independent, is, as a reviewer of his book said, a social scientist who has been mugged by data. They include these findings:
– Although liberal families’ incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).
– Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.
– Residents of the states that voted for John Kerry in 2004 gave smaller percentages of their incomes to charity than did residents of states that voted for George Bush.
– Bush carried 24 of the 25 states where charitable giving was above average.
– In the 10 reddest states, in which Bush got more than 60 percent majorities, the average percentage of personal income donated to charity was 3.5. Residents of the bluest states, which gave Bush less than 40 percent, donated just 1.9 percent.
– People who reject the idea that “government has a responsibility to reduce income inequality” give an average of four times more than people who accept that proposition”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html
GLORIA CAIN
November 15th, 2011
12:24 pm
OBAMA got my vote in 2008
carlosgvv
November 15th, 2011
12:25 pm
UGA 1999 – 11:26
No, I don’t like it. However, I will stay in Georgia and work to make us a politically saner state. Unlike you, I do not have a “cut and run” personality.
Aquagirl
November 15th, 2011
12:28 pm
Perhaps the company needs to pursue that avenue!
Um, Tracey, I don’t think you read the article. Embryonic stem cell research shows great promise in areas where other types of stem cells can’t be used. The lack of funding isn’t due to expected lack of results, it’s political.
Unless you are planning on thawing (not usually successful) and carrying all those blastocysts, they’re going in the incinerator.
I’m not sure why some people see using them to save lives is a moral dilemma, especially when they don’t protest the moral and legal permissibility of creating these fertilized eggs. Couples produce a batch with a doctor’s help, and generally only use a few. The leftovers are on their own.
Jeff H.
November 15th, 2011
12:31 pm
I have to disagree with Cain’s squeeze. She may think she is not naive, but she is. Big time.
Craig T Jones
November 15th, 2011
12:44 pm
Did Herman tell Gloria about the harassment complaints when they were being made back in the 1990s and settlement dollars were being paid by his employer? Or did he not mention them to his wife until he was running for president 15 years later, when she heard about them on TV? If an applicant for a corporate CEO position had a past history of sexual harassment complaints against him, would the company hire that person? Or would they hire another applicant with similar (or better) experience and no history of alleged improprieties? If a businessman wants to be President of the United States, shouldn’t voters make their decision the same way a business would?
honested
November 15th, 2011
12:46 pm
td,
Your ability to pull nonsense from wherever you pull it and point to it as fact is astonishing, to wit: ‘Yes most CONjobs believe the Iraqi war(of choice) was necessary to make sure our people could stay safe a little longer. Believe it or not but we will have to do the same thing in Iran before it is all said and done’.
HUH?
Just what did we do in Iraq to help us ’stay safe a little longer’? Safe from what? Rove? Rumsfeld? Shrub?
You may not have read the reams of reports or seen any of the news reporting but THERE WAS NO THREAT IN IRAQ, no matter what a tiny minority of CONjobs hold tightly to ‘believe’.
As for Iran, no real threat now or in the future. Any threat to the ’51st state’ is something they should put their ‘big boy pants’ (paid for by US aid) on and deal with it.
honested
November 15th, 2011
12:48 pm
Craig T
Come to think of it, did hermie have any daily gig after the Restaurant Association until he started babbling on WSB?
I know there was the pizza joints that are now out of business, but I’m hazy on when he was involved.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
12:49 pm
Carlos…cut and run? Me? Nope we live in a red state, I feel just fine here.
ab
November 15th, 2011
12:52 pm
When is anyone going to bring up that the genius Rick Perry has used stem cell procedures for his back problems?
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
12:55 pm
Am I the only one that wouldnt care at all if the NBA ever came back?
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
1:01 pm
ab….so?
yuzeyurbrane
November 15th, 2011
1:02 pm
td, what is your citation for your 10% of Muslims hate us claim and that 10% of Muslim governments likewise hate us? List them please. Did you pull it from your derriere, as usual?
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
1:04 pm
yuzeyurbrane…name a Muslim country that does not hate us.
Married for life
November 15th, 2011
1:05 pm
“And in fact, Kristof notes that “According to Google’s figures, if donations to all religious organizations are excluded, liberals give slightly more to charity than conservatives do.”
http://www.science20.com/adaptive_complexity/blog/whos_more_charitable_liberals_or_conservatives
That study may be more subjective than objective. There are conservatives who have given a great deal of both their time and money to charitable causes. There are liberals who seem to “live” within charitable causes. I known both liberals and conservatives who don’t count the work they do and money they give to charitable causes as charity and would never have answered the questions in that study in the “right” way. I would never quote that study as evidence because, based upon my life experience, everyone gives in ways that are never counted.
td
November 15th, 2011
1:07 pm
yuzeyurbrane
November 15th, 2011
1:02 pm
Go read Dich Chaney’s book.
double
November 15th, 2011
1:08 pm
You people worry about trivial things.County about to cut water off to my trailer,cause LL ain’t paid utilities bills.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
1:08 pm
Td….learn how to spell Dick first.
Edward
November 15th, 2011
1:08 pm
The posts here only confirm my low opinion of the South. They can’t even come up with an original response to criticisms, relying upon the tired old saw “if you don’t like it then leave.” How about I stay and work to undo the damage you people cause? How about I stay just to piss you off? With the morbid obesity and self-destructive behavior that is so common here, you people will be dying off, anyway.
Married for life
November 15th, 2011
1:10 pm
The above was for td.
td
November 15th, 2011
1:10 pm
ab
November 15th, 2011
12:52 pm
Who on this blog said that Stem cell research should not go forward? I think the debate is between those who what it done from the private sector and those who want the government to pay for the research.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
1:10 pm
Edward…”if you dont like it then leave”….ha you said it!
td
November 15th, 2011
1:17 pm
honested
November 15th, 2011
12:46 pm
One simple question for you: Was it or was it not true that Iraq was threatening to attack Israel, SA and Kuwait again? If you answer yes then the war was justified. Our way of life would be ruined without the oil fro Kuwait(sp) and SA and our number one friend in the region and the one country we will protect at any and all cost was threatened.
td
November 15th, 2011
1:19 pm
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
1:08 pm
Td….learn how to spell Dick first
Sometimes you hit the submit button before you proof read. “It” happens.
liberalefty
November 15th, 2011
1:22 pm
the troops died for BUSHS lie. he couldnt keep america safe on 9/11 and he looked like a fool to the rest of the world.,thank god we have a president who has kept america safe.
td
November 15th, 2011
1:22 pm
Married for life
November 15th, 2011
1:05 pm
Donating money and time to chrches should not count as chartiable contributions?
gloria cain
November 15th, 2011
1:25 pm
after the GOP stop using my husband to pretend theyre not racist, i’m going to vote for OBAMA like i did in 2008, because we all know HERMAN wont be nominated.
honested
November 15th, 2011
1:25 pm
td,
Aside from innuendo in wrong wing press, I don’t recall any ‘threats’ to attack Saudi Arabia, Kuwait or the ’51st state’, therefore there was no justification whatsoever for invading Iraq……except ‘You will remember, he did try to kill my daddy’.
“Our way of life” would be better directed toward REDUCING the amount of petroleum we ignorantly consume. This could be achieved more quickly if the FEDERAL SUBSIDIES to the petroleum industry were eliminated and the FREE SECURITY we provide disappeared as well.
teleprompter
November 15th, 2011
1:26 pm
hey RICK “DUH DUH PERRY and HERMAN UGH UUUHH CAIN, i think u both need me!
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
1:26 pm
td….i know i know haha.
honested
November 15th, 2011
1:27 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen, this blog may be the last place in the universe where the opinion of dick cheney is regarded as one of authority.
td
November 15th, 2011
1:27 pm
Aquagirl
November 15th, 2011
11:50 am
If you main concern is children’s issues then why did the government fund aids research at 100 times the level of Childhood diabetes? Is not AIDS a disease caused by behavior the same as type II diabetes?
liberalefty
November 15th, 2011
1:28 pm
OSAMA maDE DUBYA look like a weak pathetic fool,lol. OBAMA made OSAMA his biatch,lol and conservatives hate it.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
1:29 pm
liberalefty….spoken like a true libtard…..great work.
honested
November 15th, 2011
1:29 pm
td,
Yes aids research was a waste…..why would we want to understand new, deadly communicable viruses or learn more ways to keep the blood supply safe.
honested
November 15th, 2011
1:32 pm
Back to the topic, will stem cell research move to Mississippi, where everything is cheaper, a plethora of test subjects abound and the people have spoken on the granting of citizenship to blastocytes!
td
November 15th, 2011
1:32 pm
honested
November 15th, 2011
1:27 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen, this blog may be the last place in the universe where the opinion of dick cheney is regarded as one of authority.
I shall remember this statement when you or other people quote Clinton, Gore or Obama as an authority in the future. BTW: Chaney’s resume (not only as VP) probably makes him one of the worlds most authorities when it comes to the military and security by anyone’s standards.
DICK CHENEY
November 15th, 2011
1:32 pm
I can walk on water, just ask td!
honested
November 15th, 2011
1:33 pm
td,
cheney might be an authority, when one is attempting to determine who helped create the most disastrous failures in American history.
Smoke
November 15th, 2011
1:34 pm
#1: I hope that Clarence Chambliss’ Monday declaration that Georgia might be willing to dicker about the federal government’s share in the project, is one of less dependency on taxpayer dollars.
DICK CHENEY
November 15th, 2011
1:34 pm
i was too chickenspit to serve during NAM but i’m very brave when it comes to sending others to shed their blood.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
1:35 pm
honested….are you referring to Barack?
Smoke
November 15th, 2011
1:36 pm
#2: Does Phi Gingrey even know why an extra 8 million Americans are projected to join state Medicaid programs in the next few years? Here’s a hint…It’s not about regulations.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
1:37 pm
Smoke…who is Phi Gingrey?
td
November 15th, 2011
1:38 pm
honested
November 15th, 2011
1:33 pm
So in your mind, freeing 30 million people from a brutal dictator was a failure?
Tracey
November 15th, 2011
1:39 pm
Aquagirl: I have no problem with stem cell research. Yes it has been politicized. However, there have not been any significant trials that give any treatment using Embryonic stem cells hope at this time.
That does not mean it cannot happen, but that right now the trials yielding results are ones using Adult Stem Cells since these have been studied for much longer.
In this economy, while I hate to see people lose their hope of a cure, companies simply choose to go with research that is further along. While this is sad, and I hate it, it’s also a fact of our lives.
I make no judgement of where the cells come from, I’m simply stating that right now the money goes to where the results show the most potential.
honested
November 15th, 2011
1:39 pm
uga,
Your handle would suggest a reading comprehension problem, but no, I was referring to the failed Vice President who opened his disastrous association with authority by meeting with numerous energy related executives and refusing to provide a list of participants, minutes of the meeting or agreed principles. Keeping it all a secret really made things work well for the American People didn’t it?
honested
November 15th, 2011
1:41 pm
td,
At the cost of American Lives, 3 trillion dollars and a couple of generations of Iraqi kids who will wake up hating us every day, yes I would call it an ABJECT FAILURE.
td
November 15th, 2011
1:41 pm
Smoke
November 15th, 2011
1:36 pm
How many of those 8 million are from single family homes where the parent has no education and is using drugs?
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
1:43 pm
Honested…it is hilarious that you continue to focus on the rear view mirror while trying to move forward. I am sorry but Barack has the wheel now and he has driven us into a ditch.
td
November 15th, 2011
1:47 pm
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
1:43 pm
I would say we were in a ditch when Obama took office and now we are over a cliff.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
1:48 pm
td…..good assessment.
honested
November 15th, 2011
1:48 pm
bobsey twins,
You must be unable to read economic reports and see that we have pulled out of the shrub ‘ditch’ and are beginning to accelerate down the road.
Facts are difficult for some to absorb.
Smoke
November 15th, 2011
1:48 pm
It doesn’t matter who the people are, the question to Gingrey is why will there be an increase? When someone finds out how many people are projected to go on Mediaid who have no education and are using drugs, let us know.
Smoke
November 15th, 2011
1:49 pm
Phi is Phil’s alter ego…
Married for life
November 15th, 2011
1:55 pm
What Kristof was saying in his analysis, td (who is racing so fast to get his opinions and criticisms online he can’t stop to check his spelling–which seems a tad obsessive to me) is that the figures given in the study shows that conservatives give more to religious institutions than secular charities and that liberals give more to secular charities than churches.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
1:56 pm
honested….really? 9% unemployment says otherwise…ever hear of a double dip recession?
DannyX
November 15th, 2011
1:59 pm
“ever hear of a double dip recession?”
What are the economic indicators that are predicting this? Lets see if you have anything other than “good post td.”
woodrow
November 15th, 2011
2:00 pm
Phil Gingrey says, ‘hey, let’s yank Medicare out from under 8 million people in the next few years’. Sounds like a plan Phil.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
2:01 pm
Dannyx….Can you read? Look at ever indicator you wish. Rising debt, increased spending, more jobs going overseas, unemployment at 9%…what else do you want to see?
DannyX
November 15th, 2011
2:05 pm
“Look at ever indicator you wish.”
Would you please post some real numbers to back up your prediction? Again, what are the economic indicators that are predicting a double dip recession. Do you even know what a recession is?
honested
November 15th, 2011
2:09 pm
uga,
Your misunderstanding of the current economic situation helps to explain why the wrong wing were shocked when the shrub depression ‘caught them by surprise’.
Little details like consistent (but slow) growth in employment, 5 consecutive months of increased (non-military) sales, to name two indicators reported today fly in the face of repug doomsaying.
I did get my super secret communique from REPUG HQ today, “It is suggested in order to maintain the pretense of continuing economic stagnation that all good republicans quit their jobs, stop paying their mortgages and encourage their children to do poorly at school”
The limits to which these people will go to avoid admitting defeat knows no bottom.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
2:12 pm
DannyX….www.gallup.com
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
2:13 pm
Honested….defeat occurred two years ago with Barack was nominated. The American people lost. Thank God we have another election next year.
DannyX
November 15th, 2011
2:14 pm
“.www.gallup.com”
LMAO!!!!
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
2:15 pm
Dannyx….yep i figured that is all you could muster was a laugh. Thank you for conceeding defeat.
honested
November 15th, 2011
2:16 pm
uga,
A little confused about time as well as economics I see.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
2:18 pm
honested…nope not at all. I dont think the 9% that are unemployed are wrong either. Great work.
honested
November 15th, 2011
2:18 pm
uga,
Gallup is involved in polling, not collection and dissemination of economic activity related data.
Polling is little more than what a tiny group ‘thinks’ or ‘feels’ about a subject extrapolated to impose significance of the public at large.
Do you comprehend the difference?
Charles
November 15th, 2011
2:20 pm
I feel sorry for Gloria Cain. It’s obvious that their 43 year marriage is due in part to the fact that she has a see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil approach to her husband. How can you possibly hear the same things that all other Americans have about your husband and not even question him or discuss it. I don’t even think Hilary did that. She stood by her man, but I bet he caught hell in the process.
td
November 15th, 2011
2:20 pm
honested
November 15th, 2011
2:16 pm
If you think the economy is going to be a success for the President then why is he not running on his record?
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
2:20 pm
Honested…Oh I understand. Part of my business degree was understanding polling and debating. Out of the 1000 people surveyed each day by Gallup….69% say our economy is getting worse….>Great job Obama.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
2:22 pm
44% of Americans say they are struggling…..great job Obama.
Charles
November 15th, 2011
2:22 pm
td
One simple question for you: Was it or was it not true that Iraq was threatening to attack Israel, SA and Kuwait again? If you answer yes then the war was justified. Our way of life would be ruined without the oil fro Kuwait(sp) and SA and our number one friend in the region and the one country we will protect at any and all cost was threatened.
++++++++
Should we go after the Palestines next? Why haven’t we yet.
DannyX
November 15th, 2011
2:23 pm
From Gallup.com Nov 3,
PRINCETON, NJ — Unemployment, as measured by Gallup without seasonal adjustment, is at 8.4% at the end of October, down from 8.7% in September and 9.2% in August. Unemployment was at 8.3% in mid-October — its lowest level since Gallup began continuous monitoring in January 2010. Gallup’s unemployment measure is also now much lower compared with a year ago — it stood at 9.4% at the end of October 2010.
honested
November 15th, 2011
2:24 pm
uga,
I agree that Gallup has changed their sampling. Otherwise why would they be coming up with numbers that contradict everyone else but raz-munckin?
td
November 15th, 2011
2:24 pm
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
2:20 pm
Excellent point. Honested will not even admit that Democratic voters are on average less educated then Republican voters, even after I have proved it to him several times with facts.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
2:24 pm
DannyX…yes but your lord and savior said it would not go over 8%…great job Barack.
Charles
November 15th, 2011
2:24 pm
honested
Ladies and Gentlemen, this blog may be the last place in the universe where the opinion of dick cheney is regarded as one of authority.
+++++++
I only wish that was true.
DannyX
November 15th, 2011
2:26 pm
Now again UGA 1999, what are the economic indicators that are predicting a double dip recession?
GNP was up 2.5 last quarter, while not great it hardly suggests were are going into another recession.
Where are your facts UGA 1999? Please post some facts to back up your claim.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
2:27 pm
DannyX…..that is great about the GDP however, tell me what happens when our debt levels exceed our GDP. Come on you have to know that.
Dannyx….apparently you wouldnt know a fact if it slapped in the face.
td
November 15th, 2011
2:27 pm
Charles
November 15th, 2011
2:22 pm
Are the Palestinians going after SA and Kuwait? It appears that Israel is able to handle them but if the day comes that it looks like they may be able to defeat Israel then yes we will support Israel.
honested
November 15th, 2011
2:28 pm
td,
Maybe I should ‘prove to you with facts’ that Democratic voters are less fearful of demons, more likely to approach problems from a logical basis and less interested in silliness.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
2:30 pm
honested….hmmmm a logical basis eh? You mean like suing states that enforcing state and federal law? I will take demons any day.
td
November 15th, 2011
2:30 pm
DannyX
November 15th, 2011
2:23 pm
You did hear that the major banks is going to ask for another bailout? What do you think that move will do to the economy?
td
November 15th, 2011
2:31 pm
honested
November 15th, 2011
2:28 pm
I will be waiting on those facts. That would be some excellent reading.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
2:31 pm
td…..”you did hear that the major banks “is” going to ask for another bailout”……How is that ebonics class working out for ya?
Charles
November 15th, 2011
2:34 pm
carlosgvv
I wounder if Geron’s decision to halt stem cell research has anything to do with the current crazed Tea Party far-right Christian political climate in Georgia?
+++++
That was my very first thought when I read the story. This is all about politics. Isn’t Nancy Reagan a proponent of stem cell research? Conservs love her husband and say screw her in spite of the fact that she is a pretty intelligent woman.
td
November 15th, 2011
2:35 pm
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
2:31 pm
If it was not for grammer and spell check then I would have never received a college degree. May formal writing may be poor but the content “be” not.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
2:35 pm
Charles….I tend to lean to the right but I support stem cell research….
DannyX
November 15th, 2011
2:35 pm
“You did hear that the major banks is going to ask for another bailout? What do you think that move will do to the economy?”
You’re grasping at straws td. Do you have any tangible evidence the economy is headed for another recession?
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
2:37 pm
Dannyx…you are just refusing to look at the information that we are posting. It is not our fault you are acting ignorant to what is actually going on.
Charles
November 15th, 2011
2:46 pm
UGA
Dannyx…you are just refusing to look at the information that we are posting. It is not our fault you are acting ignorant to what is actually going on.
++++++
No one is ignoring your info. People are simply looking at other data and coming to a different conclusion. You side HAS to paint everything so bleak. Because thanks to many of them things are.
The reality is American has been through tough times before and is slowly pulling itself out of the current mess. The problem is, that doesn’t work well at election time for your side so you want to keep painting a dark hopeless picture.
DannyX
November 15th, 2011
2:49 pm
You’re doing a heck of a job Republicans!
Real Clear Politics generic Congressional poll average now has the Democrats up by 2.8%. Of course a year ago Republicans held a huge advantage.
Even Rasmussen has the Democrats tied with Republicans in their generic poll.
The House is in play.
td
November 15th, 2011
2:49 pm
Charles
November 15th, 2011
2:46 pm
Sort of like the same think Dems did to the first Bush?
td
November 15th, 2011
2:50 pm
td
November 15th, 2011
2:49 pm
Charles
November 15th, 2011
2:46 pm
Sort of like the same think Dems did to the first Bush?
Should be thing instead of think.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
2:51 pm
HA HA…>Danny is happy about 2.8%. Wow, a little despirate eh?
td
November 15th, 2011
2:51 pm
DannyX
November 15th, 2011
2:49 pm
Please go and show me a way the Dems can take back the house next year? Show me how they keep the Senate?
Charles
November 15th, 2011
2:57 pm
UGA
HA HA…>Danny is happy about 2.8%. Wow, a little despirate eh?
++++++
You mean DESPERATE correct? Now and then we poor uneducated Dems can spell and use proper grammar.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
2:57 pm
td….he can’t because they wont.
Justin
November 15th, 2011
2:59 pm
UGA1999 and td must be lovers
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
3:00 pm
Charles….yeah now and then.
td
November 15th, 2011
3:02 pm
DannyX
November 15th, 2011
2:49 pm
This is where just reling on poll data can make one look bad. If you ask those same people about their own congressman then the vast majority would say they are satisfied with his/her body of work. Just look at Georgia for an example. There is only one Congressman in trouble (Barrow D) and that is because the state legislature drew him out of his district and are trying to defeat him. Every other Congressman (both D and R) are safe and in no way will lose re election next year. I am sure you can go to all 49 other states and you will see very similar results.
DannyX
November 15th, 2011
3:14 pm
“This is where just reling on poll data can make one look bad.”
Actually generic Congressional polls are all about trends. They started breaking in favor of the Republicans about 9 months before the 2010 election.
The American people favor increasing taxes on the rich in combination with budget cuts. Republicans are fighting tax increases and everything else. Republican presidential candidates are looking like fools. Republicans in Congress are more unpopular than the Democrats right now. The economy is starting to pick up. Obama has seen his approval ratings rise.
The writing is on the wall.
td
November 15th, 2011
3:17 pm
DannyX
November 15th, 2011
3:14 pm
The writing is on the wall for what? Dem congressional control or Obama Re election.
DannyX
November 15th, 2011
3:21 pm
“Dem congressional control or Obama Re election.”
Both, in my opinion. Republicans better do something constructive, fast.
You have not defended the Republican downward trend in popularity.
yuzeyurbrane
November 15th, 2011
3:22 pm
td, I agree with UGA 1999, learn how to spell Dick first. Dich would not even pass spellcheck.
UGA 1999, to respond to your challenge, Turkey is one. Now you name all those that do hate us.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
3:22 pm
DannyX…..wishful thinking much?
Smoke
November 15th, 2011
3:22 pm
55% of Americans are doing OK, and 1% are doing fantastic. Great job Boehner and McConnell. Perry had the oops and Cain the pause, let’s see what Newt’s going to do.
UGA 1999
November 15th, 2011
3:24 pm
Smoke…your name should be smoke and mirrors!
Mark
November 15th, 2011
3:39 pm
Newt is going to screw himself, that’s what Newt is going to do.
td
November 15th, 2011
3:40 pm
DannyX
November 15th, 2011
3:21 pm
The Presidential race is to early to call so your hopeful thinking may come true. The house will not change to Democratic control. The numbers you are looking at may have had an effect before redistricting but not any longer. Besides CA, most of the lost seats came from Blue states and went to Red States. Those Red states are controlled my Republican state legislatures. How many of those states do you think will draw “fair” maps that give a Democrat a chance? In the Senate, there is only one Republican running for re election in a blue state and there are 13 Democrats running in Red states. Dems hold a 3 seat advantage right now which means the Republicans only have to defeat 4 Dem Senators in those red states.
Even the most left leaning analyst on MSNBC are not predicting the house will change hands and most of them are only hoping for a miracle to keep the Senate with the Dems.
Aquagirl
November 15th, 2011
3:43 pm
Newt is going to screw himself, that’s what Newt is going to do.
That’s a notch down even from the current Stepford wife.
Smoke
November 15th, 2011
4:00 pm
Smoke does reflections from time to time. Boehner and McConnell’s policies must be the reason 55% of Americans are doing good and the 1% aree doing fantastic if Obama is the blame for 44% of Americans suffering. Right?
DannyX
November 15th, 2011
4:06 pm
“Even the most left leaning analyst on MSNBC are not predicting the house will change hands and most of them are only hoping for a miracle to keep the Senate with the Dems.”
td, I really could care less what talking heads have to say from either side, I have my own opinions and I am not afraid to voice them. In fact in 2006 I predicted, right here on these ajc blogs that the Democrats would take control of the Senate and was laughed at by everyone, left and right. I was right.
I never said the House would change hands, I said based on current trends the House will be in play, and I stand by that. Republicans are playing a risky game right now and will be burned by it.
honested
November 15th, 2011
4:50 pm
The House flip will be in 2014, two years into the Second Obama Administration.
Of course, if the teaclowns take a tack other than ‘obstructionists in chief’ they might just be the minority by 8 or 10 seats.
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