The lessons of Arizona, Mississippi for Georgia Republicans
On Tuesday, state lawmakers will begin submitting bills for their colleagues’ consideration in January, when the Legislature returns to Atlanta.
We are entering an election year, which means more than a few of the measures will be intended to stir the blood and drive GOP voters to the polls in November.
But stir the blood too much and the patient revolts. Votes in Arizona and Mississippi last week may have set boundaries for Republicans in Georgia when it comes to two hot topics: Abortion and illegal immigration.
Let’s address the more subtle of the pair first: Last Tuesday, voters ousted Republican Russell Pearce, president of the Arizona state senate and architect of that state’s illegal immigration law — which became a model for Georgia’s HB 87, passed earlier this year.
Opponents of state attempts to enforce federal immigration laws called Pearce’s defeat a victory. But Pearce was replaced by another Republican who also supports Arizona’s approach. Reports from the Southwest indicate that the difference between the two candidates was one of tone.
Pearce came across as sharp, mean-spirited and heedless of the consequences of his legislation. At least that’s the warning that some GOP lawmakers in Georgia have taken to heart.
“Both sides need to lay aside their ideology,” said House Majority Whip Edward Lindsey, R-Atlanta, who will be in charge of rousting that chamber’s votes for Republican causes next year.
Lindsey voted for HB 87 last year, and says there’s no chance that the GOP-controlled Legislature will back away from the measure.
But Lindsey was one of several Republican legislators given tours of south Georgia farms where crops were left to rot this summer — after migrant workers fearful of arrest fled the state.
Republicans do not want an alienated south Georgia.
An attempt to create a guest worker program is likely next year, he said. Such things usually require coordination with — and approval from — the federal government. But the symbolism could be important.
“If my friends in south Georgia want to see us try to put the cart before the horse, to show the federal government that we’re serious about a guest worker program, we’ve more than happy to take a look it,” Lindsey said. “I think the state probably needs to show its willingness to run with it once the feds are willing to give us that leeway.”
Last month, state Agriculture Commissioner Gary Black, a Republican, testified at a U.S. Senate hearing endorsed a “penalty-based work authorization permit” for illegal immigrants already here.
Would Lindsey’s House colleagues consider that idea? “I don’t know,” the House whip said. “That’s something that needs to be put on the table, along with a lot of others I’ve heard.”
Mississippi is another matter. Voters there were presented with a proposed amendment to that state’s constitution that would have declared life to begin at fertilization. All abortions would have been banned, some birth control methods would have been made illegal, and physicians and the use of in vitro fertilization would have been curtailed.
The amendment, designed as a vehicle to overturn Roe v. Wade, was rejected by 58 percent of some of the most conservative voters in the country. Similar legislation — under the name of “the Human Life Amendment” — has been rejected by House GOP leaders in Georgia. Tuesday’s results in Mississippi are likely to reinforce that decision, especially as a means of driving GOP voters to the polls.
“Certainly we’re going to listen to our caucus,” said Lindsey, who has chaired hearings on the issue. “But the same concerns I had about the Human Life Amendment I still have today. I believe it has a lot of unintended consequences.”
Moreover, Lindsey said the proposed amendment splits the pro-life movement. The Catholic Archdiocese of Atlanta is among the opponents. “I don’t want to see another civil war break out among pro-life organizations in Georgia,” he said.
Dan Becker, on the other hand, thinks the war needs to be fought — as a revolt against the “tired arguments of timing that the pro-life leadership has been putting out there for the last 24 years.”
Becker is president of Georgia Right to life, and sits on the board of directors of Personhood USA — one of the groups behind the proposed Mississippi amendment.
Two Georgia lawmakers, one in the House and one in the Senate, are prepared to drop legislation to renew the fight here, Becker said.
The lesson of Mississippi, the GRTL leader said, is that the implications of the measure needed to be spelled out beforehand, in legislation that would accompany it. To ease legitimate concerns and combat illegitimate ones.
“We have 50 sections of the Georgia Code being worked on right now. That will determine what will and won’t happen,” Becker said. “We won’t have doctors prosecuted for ectopic pregnancies. Women will not be prosecuted for miscarriages. Passports will not be issued to the pre-born.”
A constitutional amendment requires two-thirds passage in the House and the Senate. “That’s not going to happen without the leadership being in favor of it,” Becker concedes. “We’re cognizant of that. We’re in it for the long term.”
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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Shine
November 12th, 2011
11:55 am
You left out the idiot in Arizona (Pierce) is one who stuck his nose in an agreed redistricting ammendment that voters passed and they snubbed their nose at voters. That had more to do with his defeat than any immigration stand.
Any illegal immigrant guest worker program by the state than undermines federal law and invites more slave wages for workers of this state will be dealt with harshly by voters.
horse
November 12th, 2011
12:10 pm
Of course, the Georgia franchise for FAIR (Federation for American Immigration Reform), the Dustin Inman Society, has already posted information that says Russell Pearce’s recall has NOTHING to do with the public’s view on the FAIR-style state enforcement laws.
DJ Sniper
November 12th, 2011
12:23 pm
I was actually surprised that the personhood amendment was rejected in Mississippi. I understand that some people are opposed to abortion, but these whackjobs don’t seem to understand that abortion is a personal decision that should be left up to the woman who is trying to decide whether or not to have one. The personhood amendment is a classic example of reaching way too far in this battle.
Ricardo Davis
November 12th, 2011
12:31 pm
Correction: Personhood USA was not “the group behind the Mississippi amendment”. Personhood Mississippi, a group allied with Personhood USA, drafted the amendment with their own legal council separate from Personhood USA. Personhood Mississippi’s director and the amendment’s sponsor, Les Riley, lives in Hickory Flat, MS. He was the one that got the language of the amendment approved for the ballot initiative, and his organization took the lead in getting the initiative on the ballot. The support of Personhood USA and other pro-personhood organizations in Mississippi such as Pro-Life Mississippi where instrumental in obtaining the signatures of over 130,000 voters to get the amendment on the ballot. Likewise the campaign coalition of Personhood Mississippi, Pro-Life Mississippi, Personhood USA, American Family Association, Christian Action Committee, and other organizations joined forces for the amendment.
Tom E Gunn
November 12th, 2011
12:32 pm
What’s wrong with this picture? They will consider all kinds of legislation that they really don’t care about, just to “stir the blood”, but won’t even consider letting us vote on having casinos operate in the state to generate needed jobs and money!
Also, don’t sell those of us in NGA down the river who need some relief drom the occupation of the ILLEGAL hordes from the south who are DRAINING our resouces, just to save some crops in the field. They better do the math and realize where the votes are!
James
November 12th, 2011
12:34 pm
Nothing will be done this year, because the republicans will kiss the ass of those ignorant,
religious-right fanatics who think they can turn back times. One day, the prior generation, and my generation will die out, and thank GOD, there will less hate in this state.
Look at the young people if you need a for instance. They don’t give a hoot if 2 men or women get married, and you better believe that they are in tune with what you old white conservatives are up to.
It is YOU that needs to get in touch with what GA voters want, and it certainly isn’t you.
Push too hard and your constituents will push back. This is not a theocracy.
James
November 12th, 2011
12:38 pm
And Ricardo,
You are right!!!! BUT, the people rejected this fanatical approach to take away a woman’s right to her own body. Ever heard of a right to privacy?
Men would be screaming for a right to abortion, if they could have children, and you know that’s true.
Sam
November 12th, 2011
1:16 pm
You could pay the farmers for the crops lost and it would not cost as much as the government services cost the tax payers to care for low paid people.
Anyone who support low wages and expect the government to make up the difference to keep people alive!
Every single person who wants wages to stay low across Georgia is a hypocrite, and Full Blown Communist.!
Independent voter
November 12th, 2011
1:25 pm
Get rid all of these republicans in Georgia.
Farm Boy
November 12th, 2011
1:29 pm
When I was small, my daddy had a mule to plow the fields. When it got sick, we called the vet out. We now have Hispanic people to work for us, making it possible to have $1 hamburgers, $.89 laundry and other bargains. When they get sick, we say die. We don’t care. There are plenty more where you came from.
Home Builder
November 12th, 2011
1:33 pm
If the building industry ever picks up, we’ll need them so don’t make any laws that are iron clad. We don’t need them now so to heck with them.
Joe Wilson
November 12th, 2011
2:37 pm
The Republicans like to keep abortion and bash immigrants to this country because they have no plan. The real problems Georgia faces are the lack of a coherent transportation policy and anything to bring jobs back to Georgia. The great railroad boom between 1870 and 1900 was subsidized by government funds. We need to invest in rails again as an alternative to traffic-chocked highways. No one wants a super highway in their back yard.
The state government sends jobs to India by awarding its healthcare contract to United Healthcare and Cigna, which process the claims in India. The state helps to keep jobs overseas.
MM
November 12th, 2011
2:43 pm
So it’s just a matter of public relations, not substance? “Messaging” as it’s called now is lying by another name. A rose by any name smells the same.
Aquagirl
November 12th, 2011
2:54 pm
Ricardo @ 12:31, thanks for telling us exactly WHO got their @$$es kicked.
So, Personhood Mississippi, Campaign Coalition of Personhood Mississippi, Pro-Life Mississippi, Personhood USA, American Family Association, Christian Action Committee, and “other organizations:” —–enjoy sucking the same big fat lemon of defeat.
hiram bronson granbury
November 12th, 2011
3:48 pm
Why, oh why do journalists continue to tie illegal aliens to crops rotting in the fields? According to a story on NPR, 3% of the illegal aliens work in agriculture. In Georgia, the figure is probably not 1%. Why do the jounalists never ever write articles that focus on the negative sides of this issue? There are a lot more negatives than positives. As an earlier poster said, Georgia’s taxpayers would be light years ahead, if they paid for the farmers’ labor – not just subsidize it, pay for all of it.
If you want to see the whole picture, just travel up the road to Dalton, the epicenter of illegal aliens in Georgia, and there’s not a rotten vegetable for hundreds of miles. The carpet cartel, who totally controls the town politically, even used over a million dollars of taxpayers’ money to help recruit them. They also used carpet mill corporate jets to fly in Mexicans to train school teachers. My point is, that it has very little to do with farmers in South Georgia, but that is what the media focuses on.
They also don’t focus on the fact that it is not only the illegal aliens who are displacing Georgia’s natives from the job market, but the hordes of Hipanics that follow the illegals, to take advantage of the chaos that is created by the language barrier. In Dalton, every business and government office in town is forced to employ Hispanics. A local kid that wants an entry level job as a bank teller or receptionist, is out of luck. They have also taken thousands of other, higher tiered jobs, and displaced hundreds of small business owners. Also, having to use interpreters cuts production in half and adds the expense of the interpreter. It’s insane.
Dalton has the highest percentage of unemployed workers in the state, and the job market favors the Hispanics, who are only here because of the carpet industry recruited tens of thousands of illegal aliens, which established the demand.
Dalton has the highest percentage of unlicensed and uninsured drivers in the state. Dalton has the most welfare fraud, stolen SS numbers, tax fraud, The Hispanic car dealer, and there are many, are already stocking their lots for the anticipated millions of dollars of fraudulently obtained Earned Income Tax Credits. Millions of dollars more aren’t being collected in sales taxes.
No one is enforcing the use of WICK or EBT vouchers. I have seen numerous women filling their carts with gallons of milk, diapers, and other commodities, that they swap with the mercados for cash.
I haven’t even made a dent in all of the negatives associated with this issue.There are many, many, many reasons why opening the gates to accomodate farmers in South Georgia, when 99% of the illegal aliens, and the hordes of Hispanics who follow them, are elsewhere in the state.
honested
November 12th, 2011
4:04 pm
hiram bronson
Clearly understood.
Until we frog march the employers (HR to CEO) in front of the cameras and give them all LONG prison sentences, nothing will change.
Of course if we HIRE CITIZENS and pay them LIVING WAGES, we might have to pay a little more for carpet, or peeled chickens, or Vidalias.
Big deal!
The corporate media is all over the issue when bankers, insurance companies, or mortgage brokers are ENTITLED to every penny they want. So why is it different when CITIZENS are deprived or realistic wages and imported slaves are allowed to build a sub-class at the cost of everyone else?
As to the headline, no Georgia repugnicans won’t learn anything from the huge losses for wrong-wing overreach in the rest of the country. They don’t seem to have learned anything since the civil war.
Wondering
November 12th, 2011
4:06 pm
How can you be pro life and pro death penalty at the same time?
clem
November 12th, 2011
4:19 pm
i am still waiting for the jobs that repubs promised in midterm
td
November 12th, 2011
4:28 pm
clem
November 12th, 2011
4:19 pm
I am still waiting on the not over 8% unemployment rate Obama promised 3 years ago.
td
November 12th, 2011
4:30 pm
Wondering
November 12th, 2011
4:06 pm
How can you be pro life and pro death penalty at the same time?
That is an easy one, the death penalty is the consequences one has to pay for maliciously taking anothers life.
findog
November 12th, 2011
4:31 pm
Put the two together to get the perfect extreme Georgia solution.
Life begins at inception.
Citizenship begins at inception.
Unless you can prove you were legally here in Georgia when the child was conceived then it is not a Georgia citizen.
Michael
November 12th, 2011
4:39 pm
Um, there is a guest worker program. So what are the Ga Redumbs pandering to now?
DJ Sniper
November 12th, 2011
4:44 pm
Does anybody else recall Obama targeting a specific unemployment rate when he took office?
td
November 12th, 2011
5:00 pm
DJ Sniper
November 12th, 2011
4:44 pm
Does anybody else recall Obama targeting a specific unemployment rate when he took office?
Obama said in a speech that if you pass the stimulus package then the unemployment rate will not get above 8%. Look it up if you do not believe me.
Dave Francis
November 12th, 2011
5:09 pm
It’s morally correct to look after our own suffering people first, as we have no obligation to foreigners, no matter their motherland? We have thousands of homeless veterans, left to wander in our streets; even single mothers with children, the sick and unwanted. We have our own share of poverty, without being responsible to people who have already scorned our laws. If Pro-illegal immigrant activists think they can intimidate pro-sovereignty entities, as akin to the Dept of IN-Justice is performing the same restraints against Arizona, Alabama, Georgia, Indiana and South Carolina—they are poorly mistaken—as there is a building strengthening majority of every walk of life, every American, called the TEA PARTY.
Most Americans respect people who follow the law, but just appearing and asking for handouts—forget it. Even the highest of skilled occupations, must be vetted through FBI, physical and previous employment examinations, sometimes waiting years. Those who illegal cross borders, fly in and overstay have no reverence for our countries people. What is happening right now and adding to our own unemployed is people escaping poverty, the drug dealers and criminals.
In the Austin Daily Herald reports: “There are rumors people are losing their jobs at local plants as well, due to increased hiring scrutiny amid federal immigration programs. Displaced workers who fear being fired and/or deported are going to Arcadia, Wis., to work for the Ashley Furniture plant or to Postville, Iowa, or St. Joseph, Mo., to work at other meat processing plants.” Companies that have already violated ICE audits and prosecuted, have seen a large increase of regular Americans and lawful residents, lining-up for jobs—as illegal workers run off.
Out of work Americans and patriotic citizens and residents can speed up this exodus, by promoting the E-Verify mandatory enforcement program, especially if President Obama signs a new directive for a job program in ‘Construction.’ These jobs should be going directly to unemployed workers in these particular occupations. Those not working and want a job should get into action and phone 202-224-3121. This is the Washington switchboard that can direct you to all House Representatives responsible for moving Chairman Lamar Smith’s ‘Legal Workforce Act’ (bill H.R.2885) to the house floor. Especially confront the new members sent to Congress by the TEA PARTY. Additionally, you can learn more about the illegal alien occupation, which permeated every community from Vermont to Arizona by going to NumbersUSA web site. Judge for yourself the truth, instead of reading the craftily engineered vitriol propaganda from the two parties.
Become a TEA PARTY member and see what you can do to halt this economic mess, with billions of dollars annually going as free public assistance, to illegal aliens who break our laws. The TEA PARTY will enforce our immigration laws and construct the fence(s) as originally enacted in 2006. Thousands of Hispanics have joined the TEA PARTY, whose families go back generations. Only the households that have something to hide are moving towards the Obama administration. People, who respect the laws of the land, have no commitment to illegal immigration and are adamantly opposed to even their own race, color, faith if they broke the law.
THERE WILL NEVER BE ANY CHANGE IN CONGRESS, LAWS, AND POLICIES IF THE SAME MIXTURE OF LIBERALS, DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS HAS THE EMPOWERMENT TO RULE US. WE CAN ALTER THIS WRONG DIRECTION OF OUR ECONOMICALLY CRIPPLED SOVEREIGN LAND, BY VOTING MORE TEA PARTY LEADERS IN THE SENATE AND HOUSE. ALL AGENCIES OF THE GOVERNMENT NOT PROSCRIBED IN THE CONSTITUTION WILL BE LIQUIDATED, MERGED, PURGED OR RETURNED TO THE CONTROL OF STATE GOVERNMENTS.
Smith’s Legal Workforce Act (H.R.2885) would require 100% of companies—large and small– to use E-Verify for all new hires within 2 years. This bill would also require all federal, state, and local agencies as well as federal and state contractors/ sub-contractors and critical infrastructure sites to use E-Verify within 6 months. Increase employer penalties and fines for knowingly hiring illegal alien workers. Require the Social Security Administration to send no-match letters to employers if a current employee’s name and social security number don’t match in their system. Require the Social Security Administration to notify owners of a Social Security number if their number is used multiple times.
The old lethargic propaganda from the Left side of the aisle, that Americans will not do dirty jobs—is a big fallacy—it’s about good wages and benefits. Young men are rushing to North Dakota for drilling operations in an oil bonanza, because they are earning a 100 grand annually. They have created 30.000 jobs and people can get some of the action. It’s cold and dirty work, but nobody is complaining.
Remember Liberals, Democrats and Republicans will concoct any rhetoric, to dislodge any candidates, other than their own chosen favorite. Democrats will manipulate voting using such unpalatable organizations, as ACORN. The activists that run this group, is re-organizing under a different name in New York. Previously they were hiring persons of ill-repute, to register anybody who could sign their name—non-citizens and illegal aliens. Most American states have poor laws respecting the citizens right to vote and Arizona is no exception. With overwhelming numbers of illegal aliens in occupancy, the State Senator who was recalled could have been compromised. Having only to show two pieces of personal ID, such as a utility or water bill, could be manufactured on any computer. With the hasty arrival of the 2012 election, state voters must demand a picture ID, with proof-positive that the owner is a US citizen.
The name of the game from both sides is money and power. More votes for the Liberal Progressives, hidden away under the Democratic veil. Elitist Republicans like the way things on the beltway, as they have always been. Both parties will reclaim the ‘Pork’ and the special interests with the money bundler’s and the never ending stream of financial engineers from ‘K’ Street lobbyists. Only the TEA PARTY established as a majority in the Senate or House can return America to it principle foundations as written into law by our founding fathers.
David
November 12th, 2011
5:18 pm
We need to kick the aliens out. Shoot the ones what won’t leave. Send all the blacks back to Africa. Leave Georgia for all us righteous white folk. Them Mexicans and blacks is takin jobs us white folk is linin up in droves to do. Whatever you do, vote republican down the line.
White power!
Frank
November 12th, 2011
5:23 pm
I harbor such hatred of all those people who weren’t fortunate enough to be born white like myself, it just makes my blood boil. Folks, please vote Republican I’d you feel like I do. We have to take this country back.
hiram bronson granbury
November 12th, 2011
5:35 pm
honested said…
“Until we frog march the employers (HR to CEO) in front of the cameras and give them all LONG prison sentences, nothing will change.”
You are correct, but it isn’t going to happen, as long as people continue to blindly accept the politicians that the greed driven business community chooses for them. Just read what Jack Abramoff is saying about how easy it was to bribe the politicians, and their staffs – he personally bought off over a hundred of them – had a staff of people purchasing tickets to sporting events, spending over a million dollars a year.
The latest is that they are doing insider trading in the stock market, on stocks that their legislative activity is going to affect. We have the most corrupt politicians that money can buy, and people keep blindly electing them. Just look at the mess they have created, and people continue to elect them, based on their party affiliation, and nothing else. Deal is a prime example of that.
There was a day when you had to ride a horse for for weeks to get to Washington, and I can understand why people didn’t know what was going on then, but now, with instant communications, there is no excuse for allowing this to continue.
Going back to a business that I know, the CEO of one of Dalton’s major carpet mills contributed the maximum amt allowed to Deal’s campaign, as did other key employees, and they also gave him the use of their facilities for fund raising events. Keep in mind that this is the champion anti-immigration fight’n governor. His other major supporters are the chicken pluckers in Gainesville, who are right there with the carpet mills, as the largest entities employing illegal aliens.
You have to be mighty, mighty dumb to not connect two and two. Unless people quit listening to actors, reading corporate talking points, on the radio, and believing the dramatic nonsense, they are going to run this country into the ground.
LizBeth
November 12th, 2011
5:36 pm
Wondering@4:06
It’s tribal. You make sure all the babies are born to increase the tribe, then kill the ones that are perceived to threaten the tribe.
double
November 12th, 2011
5:56 pm
Become stubborn as a mule join the Tea Party.Then vote against any plan the Jackass has.
hiram bronson granbury
November 12th, 2011
6:11 pm
LizBeth
A more accurate scenario is, the tribe’s leaders are receiving some benefit from the alien tribe, so they are willing to deplete all of their own tribe’s resources to aid the alien tribe, so they can continue to personally benefit. The original tribe’s members are so stupid that they allow it to happen…
LizBeth
November 12th, 2011
6:37 pm
Hiram—
…over and over again.
DannyX
November 12th, 2011
6:41 pm
Of course the tribe leaders all get messages from God.
Tom
November 12th, 2011
6:58 pm
If only Dan Becker’s mama had been ‘barren’.
GOP Crazies
November 12th, 2011
7:22 pm
The Republicans need for focus more on creating jobs instead of our UTERUSES!
GOP Crazies
November 12th, 2011
7:28 pm
@Frank November 12th, 2011 5:23 pm – you say –
I harbor such hatred of all those people who weren’t fortunate enough to be born white like myself, it just makes my blood boil. Folks, please vote Republican I’d you feel like I do. We have to take this country back.
FRANK YOU STANK!!!!
I am so glad that I was not born white because of stinking people like you. You are stinking up this blog with your racist bullsh*t!
What do you mean take this country back? From whom? I guess you forgot that the Native Americans were here long before your racist kin folks got here.
Go back to the trailer park where you belong. That is your legacy Frank poor white redneck meth smoking trash!
GOP Crazies
November 12th, 2011
7:37 pm
Frank November 12th, 2011 5:23 pm YOU SAY – I harbor such hatred of all those people who weren’t fortunate enough to be born white like myself, it just makes my blood boil. Folks, please vote Republican I’d you feel like I do. We have to take this country back.
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Folks need to VOTE DEMOCRAT because of people like FRANK. We have TO TAKE THIS COUNTRY BACK FROM DUMB, ILLITERATE, UNINTELLIGENT, UNEDUCATED, RACIST, REDNECK, TRAILER PARK TRASH, COUNTRY HICKS WHO SPEW THEIR HATRED.
He is the prime example of the GOP CRAZIES.
Frank you are stinking up this blog.
Buckhead Boy
November 12th, 2011
7:38 pm
The thought of a majority in Congress composed of the likes of Joe Walsh, Allen West, Paul Broun, Michelle Bachman, Tom Price … . Hiram, you’ve succeeded in frightening me deeply.
GOP Crazies
November 12th, 2011
7:42 pm
@Dave Francis November 12th, 2011 5:09 pm
You sound like a lunatic. Anyone that would comment with 10 paragraphs is A FANATIC and does not deserve to be read.
Who do you think is going to read all of that nonsense. Lighten-up Bud. Less is more.
You turn people off when you start ranting and raving about NOTHING.
Take your tea party and shove it where the sun don’t shine.
Buckhead Boy
November 12th, 2011
7:43 pm
I apologize Hiram. It was Dave who frightened me — obviously out of my wits.
GOP Crazies
November 12th, 2011
7:48 pm
@David November 12th, 2011 5:18 pm – YOU SAY, We need to kick the aliens out. Shoot the ones what won’t leave. Send all the blacks back to Africa. Leave Georgia for all us righteous white folk. Them Mexicans and blacks is takin jobs us white folk is linin up in droves to do. Whatever you do, vote republican down the line.
White power!
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Send the blacks back to Africa? YOU AND WHAT ARMY? Try it Bud!!!! You don’t want to go there. We will kick your racist behind and send you to straight to h*ll.
You need to go get your GED so you can get out of the trailer park with your meth smoking self.
White Power that!
GOP Crazies
November 12th, 2011
7:58 pm
@findog November 12th, 2011 4:31 pm – YOU SAY – Put the two together to get the perfect extreme Georgia solution.
Life begins at inception.
Citizenship begins at inception.
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Folks, we go some GENIUSES in the house!
Findog, Frank and David you all need to get your GED before you can comment on anything of substance. I know you think you are so smart but you all sound like idiots.
Findog, the word is CONCEPTION NOT INCEPTION!! BUY A DICTIONARY BEFORE YOU SPEW YOUR IGNORANCE ON THE BLOG. I know they don’t have dictionaries in the trailer park but they do at the library.
GOP Crazies
November 12th, 2011
8:05 pm
The Planet of the Apes (Eight) Debate on National Security has just begun.
TONIGHT THEY WILL:
Make it up as they go
They will fly by the seat of their pants/skirt
HEAVEN HELP US!!! A BUNCH OF IDIOTS.
td
November 12th, 2011
8:47 pm
GOP Crazies
November 12th, 2011
7:58 pm
You do know that findog is a moderate Democrat?
Findog: This is a prime example of the nasty, ugly people currently running the party. I would invite you to come on over and become a Reagan Democrat and get these haters out of office next year.
GOP Crazies
November 12th, 2011
9:06 pm
The debate just ended! I WAS NOT IMPRESSED WITH ANY OF THOSE IDIOTS!
Bill Orvis White
November 12th, 2011
9:18 pm
I’m saddened that the personhood amendment failed here in MS. I’m praying and helping to bring this important piece of legislation back to the MS voters next year in some way shape or form because WE THE PEOPLE in the great state of Mississippi and the rest of the South WISH TO PROTECT THE INNOCENT, THE UNBORN AT ALL COSTS! WE WILL MAKE SURE TO TAKE THIS ALL THE WAY TO THE HIGHEST COURT TO OVERTURN THE WRONGFUL ROE V. WADE AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERY LIVING HUMAN FROM THE POINT OF CONCEPTION GETS LIFE NO MATTER WHAT! ANYTHING LESS IS MURDER, pure and simple. The only candidate out there who agrees with this rightful view is the honorable Mr. Herman Cain. WHEN HERMAN CAIN IS SWORN IN IN JANUARY 2013, HE WILL MAKE SURE TO PROTECT THE INNOCENT, bring free markets back to this once-free nation, give WE THE PEOPLE choice with their doctors and schools, dismantle the EPA, the Dept. of Miseducation, Fannie, Freddie and strengthen the hard working people on Wall Street so that WE THE PEOPLE can invest again. I won’t invest until I know HERMAN CAIN IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE. Otherwise, I am adding to my gold cache. GOOD NIGHT!
Amen,
Bill
Dave Francis
November 12th, 2011
9:52 pm
ONLY VOTERS HAVE THE POWER?
Instead of going into the contentious issues of a hundred billion dollars plus spent on supporting the illegal immigration invasion; the overcrowded schools, the free hand-outs of health care treatment and criminals arriving here, the instant citizenship for children of illegal parents, so they can get welfare and a foothold in America.–MANDATORY E-Verify can solve the majority financial problems, by enacting the ‘LEGAL WORKFORCE ACT’ (bill H.R.2885) It has taken years through complete indifference by our politicians, to get in this political mess. We will not get out of this mess overnight. But Rep. Smith’s sponsored law is gaining momentum, as he only needs 43 more supporters. Those not working and want a job should get into the action and phone 202-224-3121. This is the Washington switchboard that can direct you to all House Representatives responsible for moving Chairman Lamar Smith’s ‘Legal Workforce Act’ (bill H.R.2885) to the house floor. E-Verify main empowerment, causing self-deportations. Simply speaking–if you cannot be verified through E-Verify, then you cannot be hired. If you are flagged, your option is to rectify the problem by talking to the Social Security administration people. THIS WILL DISPLACE ILLEGAL WORKERS FROM JOBS NATIONWIDE, ALLOWING CITIZENS AND LAWFUL RESIDENTS TO TAKE THEIR PLACE.
Become a TEA PARTY member and see what you can do to halt this economic chaos, with billions of dollars annually going as free public assistance, to illegal aliens who break our laws. The TEA PARTY will enforce our immigration laws and construct the fence(s) as originally enacted in 2006. Thousands of Hispanics have joined the TEA PARTY, whose families go back generations. Only the households that have something to hide are moving towards the Obama administration. People, who respect the laws of the land, have no commitment to illegal immigration and are adamantly opposed to even their own race, color, faith if they broke the law.
Be vigilant when voting as our government is ignoring that illegal aliens are voting and could be grossly detrimental in close races. This is perjury and is prosecuted with fines and prisons, but Democrats and liberals overlook this law.
ld
November 12th, 2011
10:11 pm
First step to any immigration reform is to REQUIRE every non-citizen to register & get photo ID and answer “census” -type questions so those deciding the issue can begin to understand the scope of the problem. Those that do not register & get photo ID do NOT get citizenship consideration.
Unless the US can get a handle on illegal immigration, we may as well start negotiating w/the gov’t of Mexico to become a “United States of North America”.
ld
November 12th, 2011
10:13 pm
My driver’s license has been pilferred twice–there are three of me out here somewhere?
Acer706
November 12th, 2011
10:13 pm
GOP Crazies:
You L-O-V-E Watching The GOP.
Stop with the poking-fun at candidates and speak against topics in which you disagree and why… or is that over your head?
Acer706
November 12th, 2011
10:23 pm
GOP candidates should follow the Dem’s lead on Immigration during a campaign… just ignore it and promise the world.
Madison
November 12th, 2011
10:34 pm
Not long ago, republicans couldn’t win in south ga. Arrogance and rotten cucumbers could see those days return.
vuduchld
November 12th, 2011
10:58 pm
Not to worry, your state has been overtaken by gooks, crackpots and goofballs. People are leaving or shying away from Jawja in droves. Keep electing the stupid and retarded and you’ll continue to get the same stupid, retarded results.
Acer706
November 12th, 2011
11:28 pm
vudu:
What in the world are you talking about? Do you have any basis on your response[s]?
GOP Crazies
November 12th, 2011
11:47 pm
@Acer706 November 12th, 2011 10:13 pm
Acer706 I am not “poking-fun” at those 8 idiots. They all have too much baggage! They throw rocks at Obama yet they live in glass houses. I do have some respect for Huntsman he has more class than the rest.
YOU CAN’T BEAT SOMEBODY WITH NOBODY.
The Republicans are warriors for the rich.
The Republicans are the reverse robinhood, they steal from the poor and give to the rich.
The Republicans are the party of “No”.
The Republicans are insensitive to the poor and middle class.
The Republicans said no to “The Jobs Act”.
The Republicans said no to infra-structure spending.
The Republicans said no to hiring veterans.
56% of the american people say that the Republicans are the problem. I could go on and on and on.
You say – speak against topics in which you disagree and why… or is that over your head?
There is nothing over my head because I know a con job when I hear it.
Acer706
November 12th, 2011
11:53 pm
Dems are against the “Jobs Act.”
Infrastructure spending… what happens once “the bridge” is built? America is not for temp positions.
GOP Crazies
November 13th, 2011
12:00 am
@Bill Orvis White November 12th, 2011 9:18 pm – YOU SAY – I’m saddened that the personhood amendment failed here in MS. WE WILL MAKE SURE TO TAKE THIS ALL THE WAY TO THE HIGHEST COURT TO OVERTURN THE WRONGFUL ROE V. WADE AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERY LIVING HUMAN FROM THE POINT OF CONCEPTION GETS LIFE NO MATTER WHAT! ANYTHING LESS IS MURDER, pure and simple. The only candidate out there who agrees with this rightful view is the honorable Mr. Herman Cain. WHEN HERMAN CAIN IS SWORN IN IN JANUARY 2013, HE WILL MAKE SURE TO PROTECT THE INNOCENT.
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Why are you people so worried about a woman’s uterus? What you should be focusing on is taking care of the babies/children that are already born. Black and white children go to bed hungry every night.
You say that Herman Cain will protect the innocent.
I say YOU CANNOT DANCE WITH THE DEVIL (HERMAN CAIN) AND EXPECT TO GO HOME WITH JESUS.
Acer706
November 13th, 2011
12:01 am
Pushing a failed administration onto the top 1% is pathetic. “Change” never had an asterisk is 2008… Pending on “The Rich.” They had all of the answers with a super majority… They could pass anything they wanted, but failed to do so.
Sorry. Next.
GOP Crazies
November 13th, 2011
12:05 am
@Acer706 November 12th, 201111:53 pm Dems are against the “Jobs Act.” Infrastructure spending… what happens once “the bridge” is built? America is not for temp positions
An out of work man who has a family to feed would kill to have a “temp position”.
Do not get to HIGH AND MIGTHY because you have a job!
Acer706
November 13th, 2011
12:08 am
Yardwork in the AM. Have a great weekend…
Acer706
November 13th, 2011
12:09 am
What about an out of work woman GOP Crazies? They get jobs too!
Acer706
November 13th, 2011
12:10 am
You are so weak.
GOP Crazies
November 13th, 2011
12:11 am
@Acer706 November 13th, 2011 12:01 am
I have a modest retirement income around $72,000 a year. I am not rich, however, I give financial help to my family and I help others that need my help.
I SLEEP GOOD AT NIGHT!
Smoke
November 13th, 2011
6:44 am
Does anyone remember when the U.S. was losing 700,000 jobs per month?
Smoke
November 13th, 2011
6:48 am
The five things that has made America great, Dixiecrats have been against historically. Public education, investment in instrastructure, research and development, immigration of semi-and skilled workers (yes migrant an construction workers are skilled), and reasonable regulatory systems.
Smoke
November 13th, 2011
6:57 am
Does anyone remember Mitch McConnell saying the GOP’s #1 political agenda is to make Obama a one-term President? No work on policies to create jobs, reducing unemployment, getting a handle on healthcare costs, public education, infrastructure, R&D, rational regulatory retorms, and Lord knows certainly not immigration reform. And someone criticizes Obama for missing a unemployment rate target? Man Please.
Smoke
November 13th, 2011
7:16 am
When Boehner took office, he said his #1 Priority was to create jobs. Now you know why Congress has a 9% approval rating.
Smoke
November 13th, 2011
7:20 am
While Dixiecrats are talking about electric fences and arresting domestic workers. Meanwhile, Obama has deported bad guys in mass targeted businesses that exploit illegal immigrants, and has gotten the cold shoulder from Boehner and McConnell to move toward real immigration reform.
Lakeside97
November 13th, 2011
7:28 am
Bush grew up privileged and wealthy and yet poor and midle-class repubnecks felt they could identify with him. LOL. Look at this country now, we’re on the precipice of collapsing, and some of you still don’t get it.
Frederick Douglass
November 13th, 2011
7:45 am
Smoke
“Does anyone remember when the U.S. was losing 700,000 jobs per month?
If they can’t remember that Bush started the Iraq war unnecessarily, I’m sure that they’d never remember 8 million lost jobs under his watch.
LizBeth
November 13th, 2011
8:16 am
Lakeside 97: …yet poor and midle-class repubnecks fell that they could identify with him…
When Bush was running the second time, one of my neighbors told me she was voting for him because he was just like her, right before she explained how she planned to cheat our local government. People who are poor both financially and in spirit seek to fill their needs with cheap thrills. Their heroes are the sly smartalecks that beat “the man” in some way. In this case, it’s not just Obama, it’s the government in general, and the sly smartalecks are Gingrich and Cain.
GT/MIT
November 13th, 2011
9:07 am
The lesson (as you call it) to be learned here is that no one really wants to do bodily harm to the illegals among us, and we don’t know how many there are, but merely to remove them from the backs of the taxpayers. I wonder if all of you liberals here would be willing to give up a share your entitlements to help support their existence.
Buckhead Boy
November 13th, 2011
9:17 am
Learn from contemporaneous events? How can reactionaries do that? Their mindset is in the past. Last evening Mrs. Bachmann suggested the she would eliminate AFDC in a paen to China’s lacking any social safety net, when AFDC was regrettably eliminated fifteen years ago and despite China now actively developing a social safety. Mr. Romney, is stuck in the 1950’s, seeing this country as “leader of the free world” and suggesting another invasion in the Third World. Messrs. Cain and Gingrich see the Geneva Conventions as an inconvenience that can be ignored. Mr. Perry, when he can remember it, wants to eliminate the agency that controls nuclear energy, as if this was a time before the Manhattan Project. All reject science when it contradicts faith, want to restrict a woman’s freedom for the same reason, and intend to relegate government to a past posture in contradistinction to present needs or future challenges. Yes, Republicans do want to take the country back — back to a time when life was “nasty, brutish and short”.
GT/MIT
November 13th, 2011
9:26 am
Buckhead Boy
November 13th, 2011
9:17 am
“Yes, Republicans do want to take the country back — back to a time when life was “nasty, brutish and short”.
And your definition of the country today is??
DannyX
November 13th, 2011
9:37 am
“And your definition of the country today is??”
I can’t speak for Buckhead Boy, but my definition of the country today is…
A country that is recovering from a president that tried his hardest to take us back even further than the 1950’s, all the way back to 1929.
GT/MIT
November 13th, 2011
9:42 am
DannyX
November 13th, 2011
9:37 am
I can’t speak for Buckhead Boy, but my definition of the country today is…
A country that is recovering from a president that tried his hardest to take us back even further than the 1950’s, all the way back to 1929.
So then, we can count you as among those willing to forfeit a share of your entitlements to help support the illegals, right???
DannyX
November 13th, 2011
9:49 am
“So then, we can count you as among those willing to forfeit a share of your entitlements to help support the illegals, right???”
LOL, is that all you have? A 12th grade comeback from a big time GT/MIT intellectual? Impressive.
GT/MIT
November 13th, 2011
9:56 am
DannyX
November 13th, 2011
9:49 am
“LOL, is that all you have? A 12th grade comeback from a big time GT/MIT intellectual? Impressive.”
I didn’t see an answer in that Danny, so can I put you in the no column ???
td
November 13th, 2011
9:56 am
Smoke
November 13th, 2011
7:16 am
When Boehner took office, he said his #1 Priority was to create jobs. Now you know why Congress has a 9% approval rating.
You keep saying this as if the Republicans controlled Congress. The Republicans only control the House of Representatives. The Senate is controlled by the Democrats. Not only do the Dems control the Senate they also control the WH. They control 2/3 of government and you want to blame the Republicans. The Senate is the body that has done absolutely nothing. The House has sent 15 bills to the Senate that would help produce jobs and the Senate will not take them up. The normal process is for the Senate to take up the bill, debate the bill, amend the bill and send it back to the house. Why will they not take the normal process? Could it be because the plan of the Dems is to run for office by blaming the Republicans? Could it be the Democrats have decided that they can not win re election on their record and are trumping up charges against the Republicans?
DannyX
November 13th, 2011
10:05 am
“I didn’t see an answer in that Danny, so can I put you in the no column ???”
Actually I shouldn’t have to give up any of my entitlements. The employers should be the ones giving up some of their entitlements. Like the entitlement to farm subsidies. Like the entitlement to slave wages with no benefits.
If that increases the cost of goods then so be it.
DannyX
November 13th, 2011
10:16 am
td, your post at 9:56 is complete nonsense. A bill has to pass both Houses before the president has anything to do with legislative action, thus rendering your 2/3rds argument void.
Also, the advantage the Democrats have in the Senate is useless because of the filibuster, this is basic stuff. And yes both parties abuse the system.
GT/MIT
November 13th, 2011
10:17 am
DannyX
November 13th, 2011
10:05 am
“Actually I shouldn’t have to give up any of my entitlements. The employers should be the ones giving up some of their entitlements. Like the entitlement to farm subsidies. Like the entitlement to slave wages with no benefits.”
“If that increases the cost of goods then so be it.”
Actually I already knew your answer Danny and if it makes you feel good, know that you are spot on with a vast majority of liberals. Your credo seems to be, lets spend lots of money, as long as its somebody else’s.
Rick in Grayson
November 13th, 2011
10:21 am
There is an increasing opposition to illegal aliens in the US. I have followed blogs here on the AJC and the New York Times for years.
The New York Time continues to advocate for illegal aliens, but the responses to these articles show that US citizens are fed up with the invasion of illegals and the subsequent costs to local taxpayers.
With the current recession and the fact that it will not improve much over the next 5 years, politicians should fear taking stances that advocate for illegal aliens. They will be losing their constituents support.
If illegal aliens were more dispersed throughout the country, even more US citizens would be outraged. If you examine the census data, you will find that many states/regions don’t have a serious illegal alien problem at this time, so those US citizens don’t see what all the fuss is about. In states that do have an illegal alien problem, US citizens, especially those that are unemployed, are increasingly opposed to illegals an foreign nationals working in the US on H1-B visas.
Illegal immigration is a jobs/economic issue not a racial issue as illegal aliens are of all races and nationalities.
DannyX
November 13th, 2011
10:31 am
“Your credo seems to be, lets spend lots of money, as long as its somebody else’s”
No its not. You have a hard time with comprehension. Go back and read my post. The farm subsidies that the farming industry receives are somebody else’s money. I also said I would pay more for goods.
The crops are rotting in Georgia because the farm industry only wants to pay slave wages. With the current recession the unemployed in the state didn’t save the crops did they?
GT/MIT
November 13th, 2011
10:33 am
Rick in Grayson:
Well written.
DannyX
November 13th, 2011
10:43 am
The Republican utopia thinks the unemployed from all races and walks of life are going to flock to the fields of south Georgia to work in a miserable sweltering climate at near minimum wage without benefits and will not use medical facilities or send their kids to school.
Dream on.
zeke
November 13th, 2011
10:55 am
Here is the thing all elected reps need to remember; WE WANT ALL ILLEGALS INCLUDING THEIR ILLEGAL ANCHOR BRATS, GONE FROM THE USA IMMEDIATELY! Abortions is abhorrent, but, if the moral decay of the USA insists on having it legal, IT MUST BE ENACTED BY CONGRESS NOT BE A LIBERAL COURT WHICH HAS NO CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY TO MAKE LAWS!!
GT/MIT
November 13th, 2011
11:06 am
Danny, my young friend, your mind set is quite clear to anyone who can read. You and those of your ilk, have no incentive to work as long as you can live off those who do. It has been, lets just say different, (chatting) with you.
I know that nothing I can say is going to alter your outlook, nor are you going to justify your attitude to me, so let me just say good day my friend, and hope that by the time you’re my age you will have acquired a more productive set of values.
GaBlue
November 13th, 2011
11:16 am
How about State Sen. John Albers wanting to follow Florida’s lead (AS IF that would ever be a good idea!) and implement drug testing for welfare recipients? REALLY? First, how much will that cost, and whose good buddy will get a commission off that cushy contract? Second — and I intend to ask him this myself — is he willing to lead by example, and break the program in by testing ALL state-level legislators and elected officials first?
Given the consistent level of BONEHEADED stunts perpetrated by the trough-guzzling gang under the Gold Dome, I think the citizens’ best interests would be better served by examining their excrement first!
GT/MIT
November 13th, 2011
11:39 am
GaBlue
November 13th, 2011
11:16 am
“How about State Sen. John Albers wanting to follow Florida’s lead (AS IF that would ever be a good idea!) and implement drug testing for welfare recipients? REALLY? First, how much will that cost, and whose good buddy will get a commission off that cushy contract? ”
Well GaBlue, really won’t cost us any more if we simply deduct the cost of the test from their entitlement check. If it is handled this way, doesn’t much matter who gets the contract.
“Second — and I intend to ask him this myself — is he willing to lead by example, and break the program in by testing ALL state-level legislators and elected officials first?”
You got this one right, I don’t know if he would support that idea or not, but if he doesn’t, he should be replaced by someone who does.
“Given the consistent level of BONEHEADED stunts perpetrated by the trough-guzzling gang under the Gold Dome, I think the citizens’ best interests would be better served by examining their excrement first!”
Well my friend, I’ll let do the poking around in their excrement.
honested
November 13th, 2011
11:40 am
What a nice morning to watch political teevee……
And see the polling that shows no matter which moron is picked from the clown car, President Obama wins in a landslide…..
Now if we can concentrate on removing ToolsEnablingAristocrats/GrossObstructivePlutocrats from the Georgia Congressional Delegation….
Maybe we can move our state back to at least the late 20th Century!
PLEASE TAKE US BACK 2 DA 1950'S GUD OLE BOY DAYS
November 13th, 2011
11:41 am
BRING SHERMAN BACK TO BURN DOWN REDNECK RURAL NORTH AND SOUTH GEORGIA
Frederick Douglass
November 13th, 2011
11:52 am
Rick in Grayson
Illegal immigration is a jobs/economic issue not a racial issue as illegal aliens are of all races and nationalities.
Damn right it is. I just recently ran off a carload of what I took to be drunken Swedes, trying to browbeat me into giving them a shot at some yard work.
PLEASE TAKE US BACK 2 DA 1950'S GUD OLE BOY DAYS
November 13th, 2011
11:57 am
LOOK HERE DEVILWORSHIPPING REDNECKS WHO RAPES LIL BOYS AND GIRLS,BLACK JESUS IS COMING FOR WAR AGAINST YOU EVIL CRACKERS,SO HAVE FUN DOING YOUR WICKEDNESS,BECAUSE YOUR TIME IS UP,SATAN CHILDREN!
GaBlue
November 13th, 2011
11:57 am
GT/MIT,
So you approve of our legislators looking for ways to kick people off assistance when we have 10+% unemployment, instead of generating the JOBS that people need to feed their families? When you motivate people by taking food out of their children’s mouths, don’t be surprised when all you get in return is a higher crime rate. Of course, that’s okay with the legislators who pride themselves that we incarcerate a higher percentage of our population than just about any place on earth, especially when they can “privatize” the prison business for profit.
PLEASE TAKE US BACK 2 DA 1950'S GUD OLE BOY DAYS
November 13th, 2011
12:17 pm
2012 EVIL WHITES YOUR TIME IS UP
double
November 13th, 2011
12:18 pm
Instead of giving part of our entitlements to help support the illegal/Aliens suppose the employer is required to add to the amt.of SS he pays on the employees behalf..Also let the employer pay continuous amounts of unemployment insurance.If this fund becomes excessive,then let the overflow go into a retirement fund for the employees.
honested
November 13th, 2011
12:22 pm
double,
As I suggested yesterday, JUST ARREST THOSE WHO EMPLOY ILLEGALS.
Sell their stuff to a CITIZEN who will employ CITIZENS.
That or providing a list of laws that the current majority in the General Assembly is willing to allow continuous infraction.
The damage done by those hiring illegals is equivalent to major drug importers yet we prefer to bury our heads in the sand.
double
November 13th, 2011
12:35 pm
I think what GABlu is saying is get your s–t straight before poking in mine.Or get splinter out of own eye………….In some instances drug testing would be ok.Some get drugs and sell or sell part.Drugs prescribed and paid for by taxpayer.
GT/MIT
November 13th, 2011
12:37 pm
GaBlue
November 13th, 2011
11:57 am
GT/MIT,
“So you approve of our legislators looking for ways to kick people off assistance when we have 10+% unemployment, instead of generating the JOBS that people need to feed their families? When you motivate people by taking food out of their children’s mouths, don’t be surprised when all you get in return is a higher crime rate. Of course, that’s okay with the legislators who pride themselves that we incarcerate a higher percentage of our population than just about any place on earth, especially when they can “privatize” the prison business for profit.”
Wow you really had me rereading my comments to see just where I advocated kicking folks off the welfare rolls, generating unemployment, taking food out of children’s mouths, causing a higher crime rate, and privatizing the prison system. You sir have accused me of everything short of beating poor folks with my cane. You know what?, that smoke screen simply won’t work. You present no creditable points of argument therefore you attack with wild accusations. Sounds familiar doesn’t it?.
Assuming that you are a taxpayer, I then surmise that you are OK having your money buy illegal drugs. I doubt you’ll find much consensus for that argument.
double
November 13th, 2011
12:45 pm
Honested going off subject.I like your opinions.If this super committee don’t come to an agreement on spending cuts before the 23rd.What happends?If they do, and congress dosent pass what happends?If not made law what happends.If made law what happends?
hiram bronson granbury
November 13th, 2011
12:50 pm
Rick said…
“If illegal aliens were more dispersed throughout the country, even more US citizens would be outraged.”
It is a relative issue. I can say with confidence that the vocal illegal alien advocates here haven’t been personally impacted by their presence. I have.
During the late real estate bubble, when banks were issuing no-doc mortgages to literally anyone with a pulse, and giddy real estate agents were discovering the huge profitability of blockbusting, solid middeclass neighborhoods were laid to waste all over Dalton.
During that period, I came home from work one day to discover that the house next door had been sold to Hispanics, and intially thought that the 12 cars parked all over the lawn were just the moving party, and were temporary. I was wrong. I estimate that between 15 and 20 people moved into a three bedroom, two bath house, with a septic system designed for a single family. Needless to say, within months, I took a substantial loss, and moved from the home that I had planned to remain in for several more years.
I was fortunate to have the resources to absorb the finacial loss, but thousands of people around Dalton were trapped. When the bubble burst, and the carpet mills tanked, hundreds of these Hispanic boarding houses were foreclosed on, and are now empty. Today, Dalton looks like a war zone.
Needless to say, I have zero sympathy for farmers in South Georgia, and I am sick of hearing about only that facet of the story. It is apparent that the media is as complicit as the employers and lowlife politicians.
double
November 13th, 2011
1:14 pm
HBG get a Taco Bell Franchise.Make lemonade.
DannyX
November 13th, 2011
1:39 pm
“HBG get a Taco Bell Franchise.Make lemonade.”
LOL!
fire eater
November 13th, 2011
2:55 pm
Lesson from Arizona…beware of RINO’s heavily funded by pro-immigration forces…Pearce may take on this character in a REPUBLICAN primary next year…Democrats were able to vote in the recall.
Real conservatives should read Pat Buchanan’s new bestseller, “Suicide of a Superpower.” Pat pulls no punches in identifying the folks who are responsible for flooding our country with third world immigrants. Unlike the mindless optimistic moo shoveled out from neocon Faux News, Pat sees a grim future for America unless middle Americans mobilize now.
The “usual suspects” down at the ADL have condemned his book as “hate” and “bigotry.” No opinion from them on the truth of his accusations, just demands that he be removed from MSNBC.
Ol' Timer
November 13th, 2011
3:04 pm
The last thing in the world the Republican/Tea Party wants to be in angry and mean-spirited. Unfortunately, they haven’t conveyed that message to Canter, Ryan, Boehner and McConnell. But, they have a year to do a make-over.
LizBeth
November 13th, 2011
4:02 pm
Why are all the extremists yelling?
GT/MIT
November 13th, 2011
4:17 pm
LizBeth
November 13th, 2011
4:02 pm
“Why are all the extremists yelling?”
I don’t know Liz, you tell me, why are you yelling????
LizBeth
November 13th, 2011
5:13 pm
Capital letters, GT/MIT. Capital letters.
GT/MIT
November 13th, 2011
5:31 pm
LizBeth
November 13th, 2011
5:13 pm
“Capital letters, GT/MIT. Capital letters.”
You know Liz. my pseudonym is indicative of proper nouns that are usually capitalized. You have a problem with the written English word??
Smoke
November 13th, 2011
6:15 pm
Someone may have answered, but didn’t the GOP tell us “fence first?” It must not be working too well since Cain wants to electify it. Since he is against solar energy, how does he propose to pay the energy bill? What’s that about not meeting a promise?
LizBeth
November 13th, 2011
6:36 pm
Evidently, GT/MIT, you are not aware that capital letters used in text is yelling or shouting. Please note the the previous pages have an “extreme”-ly large amount of shouting.
GT/MIT
November 13th, 2011
6:50 pm
LizBeth
November 13th, 2011
6:36 pm
“Evidently, GT/MIT, you are not aware that capital letters used in text is yelling or shouting. Please note the the previous pages have an “extreme”-ly large amount of shouting.”
Your kidding right Liz?? Well you are only attacking my name and not my philosophy, so I guess that’s a plus, ah, I guess.
GT/MIT
November 13th, 2011
7:07 pm
Enter your comments here
Georgia Institute of Technology/Massachutsetts Institute of Technology
November 13th, 2011
7:17 pm
LizBeth, Having given some thought to your comments, and not wishing to seem flippant in my responses, I have spelled out my pseudonym thereby reducing to number of capital letters in hopes that you will find it less offensive. However its just too darn long so you’ll just have to learn to live with GT/MIT
honested
November 13th, 2011
8:02 pm
double,
Pardon the delay.
The ’supercomittee’ is a sham.
The ‘cuts’ won’t go into effect until 2013 and would be easily eliminated by whatever lame duck Congress exists after the 2012 election. No real pressure, just election talking points.
The main thing I want to see occur is NO EXTENSION of the failed shrub tax cuts. Our national budget was nearing a real equilibrium (minus the Afghan fiasco off budget costs and every penny associated with the Iraqi War of Choice) until shrub/cheney decided to radically reduce Federal revenue with no corresponding cuts or requirement for sacrifice to pay for the ill advised military expansion.
Therefore, after revenues have returned to NORMAL and such revenue adjustments are no longer a point of argument, revisit everything about budgeting. Then cut MIC (pointless weapons, offshore basing, mission-less aircraft built in Marietta just to protect the jobs of a couple of Congress midgets and Senators) and get serious about real budget priorities.
Does that approach your question?
double
November 13th, 2011
8:49 pm
Honested. thanks for the reply.I thought mandatory automatic cuts would kick in if no agreement was reached.I need to read again.I know they were looking for ways to avoid big pentagon cuts.
td
November 13th, 2011
9:49 pm
GT/MIT,
Welcome to the JG blogs where a vast majority of the people do not know what a philosophy is and they just think (Dem good, Repub bad). The same people on this blog now saying Obama will win in a landslide are the same people that were on here two years ago stating Barnes would win in a landslide.
double
November 13th, 2011
10:12 pm
I’m gonna sit right down and write my self a letter,and make belief……..
LizBeth
November 13th, 2011
10:19 pm
Congratulations, GT/MIT. You’ve got a friend in td. Have fun with that.
Mike H.
November 13th, 2011
10:31 pm
Wow, Jimmie! I’m so glad you’re back and belittling the Republicans again! I think you must have heeded my advice and got your Voodoo doctor to prescribe a much stronger med that even Prozac would pale in comparison to! Great too, that all your socialist loonies are back on line, too. Keep up the good work and keep the Al Jezerra Chronicle tops in its class(less) newspaper rankings.
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November 14th, 2011
2:51 am
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November 14th, 2011
2:56 am
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Bond
November 14th, 2011
9:11 am
TD wrote:
“How can you be pro life and pro death penalty at the same time?
That is an easy one, the death penalty is the consequences one has to pay for maliciously taking anothers life.”
This response gives away the sole moral ground upon which pro life advocates stand. That is, only God can give or take life. Once you start down the slippery slope of justification, then all you have is the substitution of man’s will for God’s.
To elaborate, if you can justify killing for a crime, it’s merely a justification. That means you would not be prevented from other justifications – say “women should have control over their own bodies”
This post is not intended to express an opinion on the abortion or death penalty issue. It is only to illuminate the flaws in the argument of the previous post.
GT/MIT
November 14th, 2011
9:58 am
LizBeth
November 13th, 2011
10:19 pm
“Congratulations, GT/MIT. You’ve got a friend in td. Have fun with that”
Golly Liz, you just never quit do you? Even dogs need sleep, no offense intended. As I suspected, from the content of your post I notice you do have a problem with the written word, albeit a slight one.
Oh and by the way, were you shouting at me?
Americana
November 14th, 2011
4:14 pm
It is noboby’s place to tell a woman what to do with her own body in regards to abortion. The GOP needs to get their noses out of peoples personal lives and stop trying to dicate social issues. We are Americans, and can do as we please. Its none of their business. As for illegals, any group that tries to stop enforcement of the laws, aid or protect illegals is traiterous to this country. Illegals are criminals who need to be deported. Legislatures should cut off ALL benefits to illegals and their anchors!
SlipKnot
November 14th, 2011
4:28 pm
To excuse execution and not abortion makes the abortion issue political and not moral.
Occupy the open thread | Blog for Democracy
November 15th, 2011
2:29 am
[...] From Galloway’s keyboard to God’s ear. Today lawmakers start submitting bills. Let’s hope they’ve taken something from The lessons of Arizona, Mississippi for Georgia Republicans [...]
common sense
November 15th, 2011
11:12 am
Anybody else think it’s funny that the right wing is so gung-ho over “personhood” from conception but so hateful toward illegal immigrants and anyone else they deem unworthy? Gays, liberals, etc. They have personhood too, correct? I mean, that’s the theory – personhood from the moment of conception, because ALL human life is sacred.
Ohhhh – I get it, you all think only the good white folks’ lives are sacred….
Second verse, same as the first.
RickHed
November 16th, 2011
5:14 am
When people stand up to injustice, a few will fall. Peace was pushed out by big money. The people in Arizona still support the laws, and America still wants out immigration laws enforced.
According to US law, a person who commits a felony cannot be a guest worker (visa) or resident (green card). In order to work here illegally multiple felonies were committed.
With our servicemen coming home, you explain to them how illegal alien guest workers took their jobs in the non agriculture fields.