Your morning jolt: Barack Obama down to 38 percent in Georgia

When she was in town last week, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, declared that her party wouldn’t concede any territory in next year’s presidential contest.

But according to a poll released Thursday by InsiderAdvantage and Channel 2 Action News, to declare Georgia in competition would be something of a stretch – at least for now.

While he won 47 percent of the vote in Georgia in 2008, President Barack Obama’s current fan base is 38 percent, according to the survey. And 54 percent of voters said they would vote for any Republican – from Mitt Romney to Michele Bachmann, and anyone in between.

Writes IA’s Matt Towery:

Independent voters support any GOP nominee over Obama by a 49%-to-38% margin. Democrats are at a 79% support level for the president, with Republicans at nearly 90% for any GOP nominee.

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The 1858 debates between Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas for an Illinois seat in the U.S. Senate are famous for crystallizing the arguments behind the Civil War.

Speeches were carried in newspapers across the country. Thousands flocked to hear the pair. And didn’t pay a dime for the entertainment.

The Nov. 5 attempt by Georgia GOP presidential candidates Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich to recreate this style of discourse earned these paragraphs in today’s Wall Street Journal:

The verbiage may be weightier, but so will the entry fee.

Bleacher seating at the Gingrich/Cain debate, hosted by the Texas Tea Party Patriots at the Woodlands Resort in Houston, costs a cool $200. The next step up, the $500 ticket, gets you “prime seating” and a ticket to the “Nite Cap party after the Debate,” says the group’s website. And for the really high rollers, $1,000 will get you “the best seating in the house for the debate” and “a professional picture taken with the candidates.”

Rumors that Matthew Brady will be resurrected to record the event have been proven unfounded.

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Last week, a U.S. Rep. Lynn Westmoreland, R-Coweta County, weary of the constant fund-raising that a seat in Congress requires, told supporters and lobbyist friends in an e-mail that he would try an experiment – one large fund-raiser a quarter, rather than four or five small one.

Westmoreland got into some hot water by including some paragraphs that guaranteed contributors face-time with the congressman. Even so, his letter has prompted a discussion. At least on the liberal side of D.C. From the National Journal:

Following a controversial proposal from Rep. Lynn Westmoreland to reduce the number of fundraisers he throws, the Progressive Policy Institute has come out with its own idea to slow the fundraising carousel — a “fundraising quiet period.”

In a policy brief released today, PPI executive director Lindsay Mark Lewis calls for banning fundraising for House members until the second session of Congress and making senators wait until year five of their terms before raising money. He argues that it would relieve legislators from constantly thinking about their next elections and improve relationships on the Hill.

The ban would be enforced by ethics rules and would be constitutional, Lewis argues, because it does not curtail anyone’s ability to contribute, but only limits lawmakers’ ability to accept donations. The ban would also have the practical effect of moving primaries until later in the year to give lawmakers more time to fundraise.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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162 comments Add your comment

td

October 28th, 2011
10:35 am

It is time for our daily Educational service announcement:

If you are a Democrat in Georgia planning on just coming out next year to vote for Obama then let is be known that your vote will not be counted. The poll above just re enforces the fact that all 16 votes for Georgia will be given to the Republican nominee. There will be 0 votes from Georgia recorded for Obama.

td

October 28th, 2011
10:43 am

I like the idea of a real debate that Newt and Herman is attempting. Instead of sound bites you actually will have a chance to listen to the candidates delve into their philosophy and learn how their philosophical views are interpreted into policy decisions. I would love to see this carry to the general election but I know I am dreaming with that idea.

Independent voter

October 28th, 2011
10:44 am

Td you a idiot

Eli

October 28th, 2011
10:45 am

Be it also known, that if you are a republican, your vote is unlikely to be counted as well. As soon as Mitt Romney gets one more vote than Obama (which will happen when 70% of votes are processed) the value of your vote depreciates. Your votes will be superfluous and unnecessary.

Mind you this as well, because GA is too closed minded to consider a Democrat at large (statewide that is) it lessens both campaigns incentives to spend money in GA. So I ask the following question (in the spirit of conservative talk radio everywhere):

Why do you hate Georgia so much?

Mark

October 28th, 2011
10:45 am

@ Independent Voter

Everyone on here knows that now

Centrist

October 28th, 2011
10:46 am

Mr. Jim Galloway, thanks for the very tardy token admission of the well known fact that Georgia is not going to be in play for the 2012 presidential contest.

Independent voter

October 28th, 2011
10:46 am

Td nobody call me to ask me to do a survey I think they contact the republican district.
President Obama going to win Georgia look at the candidates who running even Newt is talking about how people are leaving the republican party because of the bickering.

Danny O

October 28th, 2011
10:48 am

td, you’re probably right. But the presidential race is not the only one on the ticket.

Which begs the question: Is the all-or-nothing state-by-state electoral college the best way to go? It essentially means that in most years Democratic votes in Georgia are worthless, and Republican votes in California are worthless. What if we reformed the system so that each state was only worth two electoral votes, and all the other votes came from individual congressional districts (one per district)?

Independent voter

October 28th, 2011
10:49 am

Goergia is a corrupt states and Nathan Deal said he wouldnt bring Casino to GA to create 1 billion revenue that tell you about the republican party.

Independent voter

October 28th, 2011
10:51 am

Nathan Deal can use tax paying money to go China and bring these toxic company to Georgia that poison our people.

td

October 28th, 2011
10:59 am

Danny O

October 28th, 2011
10:48 am

I understand the reasoning behind the framers electing our president through the electoral college process. Is there room for improvement? probably. Each state now has two votes to represent their Senators and it is stated plainly in the Constitution that the states can divide their votes anyway they want too. Maine and NE. already split their votes by House of Reps district and the two additional votes go to the winner of the state as a whole. I would not support GA. going to a different system until CA, NY and Texas did it first.

Retired Solider

October 28th, 2011
11:00 am

Danny-

States already have that option, look at Neb. and Maine. PA. is looking at that too. I like the winner take all but change can be done if the legislature so desires.

td

October 28th, 2011
11:05 am

Danny O

October 28th, 2011
10:48 am
td, you’re probably right. But the presidential race is not the only one on the ticket

There is no where in my post that I said anyone should not come out and vote. I am just giving a public service announcement to the Democrats whose only reason to vote is for President that their votes will not be counted. These people now have every right to come out and waste their time and effort to vote for Obama.

Independent voter

October 28th, 2011
11:07 am

Td you told me dont vote because it doesnt count

Clarence Lothian

October 28th, 2011
11:08 am

This poll in Geogia is totally rubbish and mean nothing to Obama and is chance of re-election. Indeed, Georgia did not voted for Obama in 2008, the year of the first African American candidacy for President, and the state which the late Doctor King made a difference to the civil liberty movement which many take for granted today.

Agee

October 28th, 2011
11:09 am

The classic article Math Against Tyranny, by Will Hively, (http://discovermagazine.com/2004/sep/math-against-tyranny) describes Alan Natapoff’s discovery of the mathematical proof that the Electoral College gives each voter more power than the highly flawed popular vote would. America-haters smell victory close, and hope that destroying the Electoral College can help hasten the downfall of the Republic, but there are many informed Americans who will fight their attempts!

SAJ

October 28th, 2011
11:13 am

The people of Georgia get it – Obama needs to be defeated. A president is supposed to lead not use the office to fly to all points on AF1 doing what he likes to do – campaign. Obama is useless because he will not seriously attack the problems we face. What he is doing now is not leading but trying to convince us we should give him another four years. If he is successful, America will experience a lost decade with nothing to show for Obama’s time in office but a broken economy and a nation in decline.

Independent voter

October 28th, 2011
11:15 am

Republicans know they dont have a chance winning so they want to take away voting rights.
Georgia is losing so much respect people are watching this state fallen apart.

Independent voter

October 28th, 2011
11:16 am

SAJ why you bashing the president answer my question what have the republican done to help this country.

Sammy

October 28th, 2011
11:17 am

I cannot wait for a Republican President! No more regulations, no more health care, no more clean water, more dirty oil, and our homeless elderly living on the street begging for their next meal! That Social Security is such a ponzi scheme! I cannot wait!!!!

Don't Tread

October 28th, 2011
11:22 am

“Barack Obama down to 38 percent in Georgia”

But fear not; he has a 97% approval rating in Fulton and Dekalb.

Chuck Doberman

October 28th, 2011
11:25 am

Gee, Georgia’s collective mind is closed to anyone except republicans? Wow this is a surprise! Next thing you tell me is that Elton John is Gay.

TD, going to vote simply to cancel out your vote will be good enough for me

Independent voter

October 28th, 2011
11:26 am

2008 the polls said that president Obama will not win the election but what happen he won. Who cares what the polls say it is not accurate.

Danny O

October 28th, 2011
11:27 am

@ td and Retired Soldier:
I can understand not wanting Georgia to split up electoral votes into districts until other states do the same. I’m sure voters in CA would feel the same. How about an amendment to the US Constitution mandating such?

Mark

October 28th, 2011
11:33 am

@ td

The Democrats only reason for voting is to vote for the POTUS

It amazes me how you become more and more insane with your comments each day. You must smoke some good Meth dude!

Independent voter

October 28th, 2011
11:36 am

Mark your friend Td is a idiot

Chuck Doberman

October 28th, 2011
11:38 am

@SAJ

We’ve already lost a decade under the leadership of GW Bush and his republican cohorts. I know, I know, NONE of our present situation is a reflection on conservative policy cuz everything was grand in America when Bush left office and EVERYTHING bad that’s happened since is directly due to the foreign-born Kenyan marxist who hates America and wishes us to become the next muslim state, right? Unfunded wars, medicare part D, deregulation and tax cuts for our wealthiest had absolutely nothing to do with today’s economy, and if we just elect another “conservative” (roflmao – a 5 year old with his first $50 inside his favorite toy store is more conservative in truth and actions than the Bush administration was) as president all will be roses and puppy-dog tails. All of the candidates have made it crystal clear that they will give us more of the same crap that got us deep in the hole today – more wealth to the wealthy and eff the rest of us… we can wait to be trickled on.

Denial must be awesome cuz it’s taken over the GOP

findog

October 28th, 2011
11:38 am

well according to td’s assumption the President is already up to 38% from his starting point of zero

Independent voter

October 28th, 2011
11:42 am

For Georgia to be a red (republican) state he doing great job for his poll to be 38%.

Retired Solider

October 28th, 2011
11:44 am

Danny-

I would be opposed for three reasons. First the Electoral College is uniquely American and I want to keep what our founding fathers created. Second, it would reduce the possible attention smaller states receive now, i.e. states like Nevada, New Mexico or Colo because they are swing states. The last reason is as I stated above states can do it now, so a constitutional amendment is not needed.

SAJ

October 28th, 2011
11:46 am

Chuck, you are forgetting one thing – we elect presidents to solve problems. We are worse off today than we were when Obama took office. He has done very litle to ameliorate our problems. You can take issue with Bush, but he has been gone for almost three years. Are we going to give Obama another four years to try to clean up Bush’s mess?

Retired Solider

October 28th, 2011
11:48 am

Chuck-

Let;s agree for a minute that your right, our problems are from Bush. What did Bush do? To much spending, start 2 wars and open Gitmo? What has been the Obama solution? Vastly more spending, expanding one of the two wars and starting a third. Keeping Gitmo open.

Now what was your complaint again?

Sammy

October 28th, 2011
11:49 am

@SAJ

You are forgetting one thing, or not paying attention. Republicans have filibusted and blocked almost every bill that could have helped the economy to make sure that Obama is not reelected. That could be seen as Treason against our country.

Retired Solider

October 28th, 2011
11:52 am

Sammy-

You have forgotten one thing, the senate has not passed a single bill from the House that would have helped the economy. Nor has the senate passed a budget in over two years.

Independent voter

October 28th, 2011
11:53 am

SAJ how can the thepressident do anything when the republicans congress vote no on every agenda that Obama put out to help american.

Truth be...

October 28th, 2011
11:56 am

38%? Wow. That must not include Fulton, DeKalb, and Clayton.

Truth be...

October 28th, 2011
12:00 pm

“… how can the thepressident do anything when the republicans congress vote no on every agenda that Obama put out to help american…”

Obama had both a Dem House and Dem House for 2008-2010…what did that accomplish?

SAJ

October 28th, 2011
12:00 pm

Independent Voter: We elect presidents to LEAD not follow. All you guys offer is excuses. There have been plenty of instances in American History where presidents have won victories over an oppostion congress. You either have the ability to lead or you don’t and Obama has no leadership skills. Clinton manage to work with an opposition congress – why can’t Obama?

EJ

October 28th, 2011
12:01 pm

If you are politically abreast of how our country was in a mess before Barack took over, you will vote for him for another term……assess what he has done despite the non cooperation from the Repubs…..project what he will do….how about Hilary Clinton running on his ticket? Come on GA!!!!!

Centrist

October 28th, 2011
12:02 pm

I suggest that this Political Insider column concentrate more on things that are not foregone and of interest to Georgians. We did have a flash in the pan about casinos for a few days until Governor Deal announced he won’t support that. Dead issue,now.

Other dead issues are that Romney will be the Republican presidential nominee, and Georgia’s electoral votes will go to him.

Some live issues concern primary challenges, whether John Barrow will be re-elected, tax reform in Georgia, whether Georgia or the federal government will win the fight over GA immigration law, whether the redistricting will be upheld or have to be re-jiggered. and daily updates on the disjointed “Occupy Atlanta” circus. There are more live issues, but suspect we will be seeing dead horses beaten just as often.

Sammy

October 28th, 2011
12:05 pm

@Retired Solider

Most recently, the American Jobs Act. And no, it did not pass the Republican controlled house. It was filibusted by Republicans in the Senate and did not get the required 60 votes. However, it should not have taken 60 votes. It should only have taken a simple majority. Republicans only agenda is not letting Obama get 4 more years. I do agree that we need a real budget.

Chuck Doberman

October 28th, 2011
12:10 pm

SAJ

I agree, we elect leaders to solve problems. IMO the republican field offered today offers no solutions, just more of the same poor policy that got us in the hole in the first place and will worsen our present situation exponentially. Beyond more tax breaks for those who don’t need them and deregulation, what does the GOP offer? Anything? The answer is an emphatic no, and I for one believe that America’s middle class, reeling as it is from decades of assault by the GOP, can’t take another republican president bent on destroying them. Y’all can deflect, divert, insult, attack… run the whole gambit of today’s GOP m.o. but it won’t change the facts one little bit. Your candidates have nothing to offer except further enriching the already-wealthy (see virtually ALL of their proposals) and paying for it on the backs of the lower classes, the elderly and the unemployed… and if you continue to squeeze the lifeblood out of these groups they will either rebel or join those Americans presently below poverty-level incomes.

Teddy Roosevelt

October 28th, 2011
12:12 pm

The part about the fundraising quiet period that bothers me is I think it unfairly punishes the incumbent. While he cannot raise money during those periods there is nothing stopping his opponent from raising funds for his campaign. That being said, I think something needs to be fixed so that Congressmen spend more time legislating and less time campaigning.

Dusty

October 28th, 2011
12:13 pm

Obama adds to our national debt every day. Every effort he has made has increased this debt.

Stimulus=more debt. Results = 0. His new bill = larger debt.

If you want our country in bankruptcy, vote for Obama. People of Georgia are smart enough to know that. Except for a few Democrats.

td

October 28th, 2011
12:17 pm

Danny O

October 28th, 2011
11:27 am
@ td and Retired Soldier:
I can understand not wanting Georgia to split up electoral votes into districts until other states do the same. I’m sure voters in CA would feel the same. How about an amendment to the US Constitution mandating such?

I am not opposed to the idea but any Constitutional amendment has to be approved by 3/4 of the states and I can not see the large states giving up their power and wanting every district in the country to be equal. Can you?

td

October 28th, 2011
12:20 pm

Mark

October 28th, 2011
11:33 am
@ td

The Democrats only reason for voting is to vote for the POTUS

It amazes me how you become more and more insane with your comments each day. You must smoke some good Meth dude

Please enlighten me and all the blog readers about what have I said is insane? Is it because all 16 votes will be cast for the Republican nominee?

Chuck Doberman

October 28th, 2011
12:21 pm

@Retired Soldier

My complaint is that once you look past the bluff and bluster, insults and outright hatred the republican candidates only answer to our present situation is more of the same fiscal policy that put us in the hole. Believe me, I’m not one that will tell you that Obama does no wrong and that the Democratic party is free of corruption. Certainly Obama can do better. Just as certain is the fact that he at least tried to work across the aisle (save your objections as we both know it is true) and has moved well to the center (or had) in an attempt to come to an agreemnet, but that wasn’t good enough for today’s GOP “leaders” who will accept no less than everything they want… including nothing for the other side.

Simply put, trickle down barely works during good times as illustrated by the ever-expanding wage desparity over the past 30 years. When the trickle is completely shut off as it has been for a few years now the system is totally dysfunctional. Continuing this joke of a fiscal policy will only cause more suffering and sacrifice by those who are already sacrificing and suffering greatly as our wealthiest citizens enjoy record level incomes. This is a roadmap to disaster

honested

October 28th, 2011
12:21 pm

matt towery never avoids any opportunity to be wrong.

What else would we expect.

Obama 2012

October 28th, 2011
12:22 pm

Why is this news, how a deep south state voted for a Democrat since Clinton? Before that, Carter? Even Gore could not win his home state of Tennessee. I believe the Democrats already have SC to MS in the red column and that did not prevent a win in ‘08.

td

October 28th, 2011
12:22 pm

findog

October 28th, 2011
11:38 am
well according to td’s assumption the President is already up to 38% from his starting point of zero

Will that 38% of the vote from Georgia be counted for Obama in next years election?