Rainbow/PUSH to Occupy Atlanta: Stop bickering with mayor over park

Three days ago, in the aftermath of the forced eviction of Occupy Atlanta from Woodruff Park, longtime civil rights leader Joe Beasley, the Southern director of Rainbow/PUSH, denounced Mayor Kasim Reed as an “unchristian” throwback who ought to be removed from office.

Beasley has befriended the movement, and was among the 52 arrested early Wednesday for refusing to clear out.

But a message just arrived from Rainbow/Push’s headquarters, putting a great deal of distance between the organization and Beasley’s harsh comments.

“Joe was not speaking on behalf of Rainbow or (founder) Jesse Jackson,” said vice-president Janice Mathis in a quick phone interview. “We love and admire and respect Joe. But the positions he was taking with Occupy Atlanta were not our positions.”

Here’s a healthy dose of the her statement, advising Occupy Atlanta not to pick a fight with the mayor:

The Occupy Movement is less than two months old. Its goals – fairer distribution of income, more meaningful regulation of banks and other global corporate interests, fairer criminal and civil justice systems, more consumer protections – are worthy, even noble.

But they won’t come from the mere act of occupying Woodruff Park or any other space. Eventually, those goals will be achieved (if at all) with a focused, peaceful, strategic effort to influence policy makers and others. It is unlikely that financial institutions or the Koch brothers will sui sponte reform the excesses that have up-ended the lives of so many Americans until there is sufficient pressure from consumers, regulators, shareholders or employees.

If the Occupy Movement devolves into name-calling and bickering over where to pitch the tents, they could miss the best opportunity that progressive forces have had in a long time to achieve significant movement toward a more just society.

In a state where both U.S. senators proudly voted against health care reform, where Leonard Drane is facing the death penalty for a murder to which someone else confessed, where homeowners have no right to a hearing prior to foreclosure, the Legislature recently considered authorizing the death penalty on a non-unanimous jury vote, where hard-earned lottery dollars are doled out to the scion of wealthy families, targeting Mayor Reed seems wasteful and naïve.

The Twitter, by the by, declares that Occupy Atlanta intends to return to Woodruff Park for a “general assembly” at 8 p.m. today.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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105 comments Add your comment

PMC

October 28th, 2011
3:25 pm

Reed has handled this situation as well as a public officer can handle it. You cannot reason with the unreasonable and he’s been more than fair and accomodating.

Ga Values...Just call me heartless

October 28th, 2011
3:37 pm

Looks like Jessie Jackson will be getting a bit of the “vig” from the Wasteline.

Shine

October 28th, 2011
3:44 pm

Well the Occupy group in Ga has officially been taken over by kooks. Rainbow/Push….gag.

Abe

October 28th, 2011
3:44 pm

Comical…’fairer distribution of income,’….Mathis and protestors alike have the audacity and pig-headedness to think that yanking income away from the producers and redistributing to the leech class will somehow help our country. Read your history books people. Our country was built upon hard work, innovation and risk assumed not by the rich but by ordinary folks who wanted a better station in life. They did steal what they needed from others; they created it themselves.

Abe

October 28th, 2011
3:45 pm

Rather, they did NOT steal what they needed from others;

SAWB

October 28th, 2011
3:46 pm

The Hobo Leisure Society really sounds greedier than the Wall Street Crowd. The Hobos want their debts paid by the government: pay my tuition, pay my student loans, pay my house note, pay my health insurance, pay me me me…

I guess it kind of does make a leftist head spin when they have the White House, the Senate and control of most major cities, but there is still no Utopia. Maybe they need to learn what these Democrat leaders have learned; the fact that resources are limited and as great as some of their ideas may sound they are impractical.

Centrist

October 28th, 2011
3:47 pm

Nonstop updates on the “Occupy Atlanta” misfits. This has and will be mostly a leftist media event, and small sideshow for the populace in general.

Independent voter

October 28th, 2011
3:47 pm

Kasim Reed seem like a angry black man when he had that press conference.
He said the city spent like $300,000 because of Occupy Atlanta but he can spend tax paying money for helicopter following the Occupy Atlanta. I wondering why Kasim not helping the homeless situation in this city. I went to the park one day and I seen this from my own eyes the Occupy Atlanta was feeding the homeless people and they had a table for medical assistant for the homeless. I also seen them having workshop for the homeless helping them with resources for employment. So Kasim cant tell me anything about the Occupy Atlanta because he doing nothing to help the problems in Atlanta. Kasim use the police force to stop the crime against Ga tech students. Stop the police brutality against residents of Atlanta. Kasim fix the pot holes. Kasim help the homeless shelter for closing on Pine Street because the homeless people might be your neighbor one day.

SAWB

October 28th, 2011
3:49 pm

“small sideshow for the populace in general.”

Well, only until the football games start.

Chuck Doberman

October 28th, 2011
3:53 pm

“The Hobo Leisure Society really sounds greedier than the Wall Street Crowd. The Hobos want their debts paid by the government: pay my tuition, pay my student loans, pay my house note, pay my health insurance, pay me me me…”

Really? I haven’t read or heard ANYONE from the occupy protests say any of these things, only their critics. Do you have any way of backing this statement up other than hyperbole? I’d be interested to read your sources…

Atlantan

October 28th, 2011
3:56 pm

The Occupy folks have no respect for the rule of law and ironically want more government control (who else will enforce equal distribution of income, regulation, consumer protections, etc – where have I heard that before) Mao and Lenin anyone?

Reed has been lenient to the point that other groups might sue the city due to their unequal enforcement of the law for the Occupy folks v. the Tea Party folks (ironic isn’t it?).

Susan Wilson

October 28th, 2011
4:01 pm

Is it against the park rules to put up a tent during the day? For example, could homeless people put up a tent in the park everyday as long as they leave by 11:00 pm? I don’t know the rules.

SAWB

October 28th, 2011
4:01 pm

“Do you have any way of backing this statement up other than hyperbole? I’d be interested to read your sources…”

I suppose everything is open to interpretations, but it sounds like their demands support my post.

1.We demand greater democratic control in all spheres of life, from the home to the government, from the economy to the workplace. It is a moral, logical and political imperative that people should be in control of their own lives to the greatest extent possible.
2.We deserve an economic system that meets human needs, reduces economic inequality, shrinks the income gap, and doesn’t reward decisions that have a negative impact on society.
3.We recognize that the market will not regulate itself. What is good for profit is not always good for people or the environment.
4.We assert the right of every human being to adequate shelter, food, clothing, hygiene and other basic necessities.
5.We assert the right of every individual to adequate protection from the economic uncertainties of old age, accident, unemployment and other hardship.
6.We denounce all predatory lending and fraudulent banking practices and demand accountability.
7.We recognize that no society should allocate more resources to warfare than to the public good.
8.We demand a more democratic, publicly representative and accountable media.
9.We insist that the internet is a basic human right and as such should remain absolutely free and neutral.
10.We assert our right to public spaces and our right to freely inhabit them because they are essential to democracy and our right to assemble.
11.We denounce a criminal justice and for-profit prison system that relies on mass incarceration, especially when it reinforces the marginalization and disenfranchisement of people.

http://likethedew.com/2011/10/08/occupy-atlanta-general-assembly-draft-demands/

Chuck Doberman

October 28th, 2011
4:05 pm

Respectfully, imo your post is not representative of their demands… not even close. On the other hand we are all entitled to our opinions. Thank you for the link

Independent voter

October 28th, 2011
4:06 pm

I am not a Occupy Atlanta movement person for all of the people against them please go and visit.
People are fed up with the government helping wall street and banks. People are losen everything because of the 1% is becoming richer and 99% is becoming more poorer.

The rich can lose everything and become part of the 99%.

Atlanta is control by corporate and they telling Kasim how to run Atlanta.

Shine

October 28th, 2011
4:07 pm

Abe, they didnt have the federal reserve system inflating workers dollars value away. Some sort of regulation/redistribution is justifiable under the federal reserve fiefdom and cronyism and outrageous compensation for upper ups.

Sources...

October 28th, 2011
4:12 pm

Chuck, here is an article that specifically addresses the fact that one Occupy protest was brought together specifically to address the issue of student loans.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45040659/

Sources...

October 28th, 2011
4:14 pm

And Chuck, if that is not what there demands are, can YOU provide a source that does state what their agenda is?

Independent voter

October 28th, 2011
4:14 pm

President Obama trying to help college students with loan and the republican is fighting against the president for helping. When people see this a no do congress they react by protesting.

Everywhere the Occupy Camp out they chase them away with police force this got to stop.
This country is land of the free and we treat our own people like garbage.

I really think Atlanta is ready for a white mayor because what have the previous black mayor do this city is to destroy and Kasim is doing the same.

Occupy is excuse....

October 28th, 2011
4:15 pm

For Hippies to do drugs.

SAWB

October 28th, 2011
4:18 pm

“Respectfully, imo your post is not representative of their demands… not even close. On the other hand we are all entitled to our opinions. Thank you for the link”

Well, as I said the demands are somewhat vague and as always the devil is in the details. I believe many of their demands, why worthy dreams, are simply cost prohibitive.

My big concern with this group is that they are going to grow impatient and possible result to activities that lead to violence. We already see it in other cities and I fear we are just one tossed bottle from a riot. I realize most of those involved are sincere and peaceful, but it only takes one nut. They need to go home and get involved in the political process.

Generation X

October 28th, 2011
4:23 pm

Occupy is excuse….
October 28th, 2011
4:15 pm

Scott Olsen was not a hippy and I’m sure he doesn’t do drugs. Can to generalize a little more or is that how you typically refer to our war vets?

Denise Caldon

October 28th, 2011
4:24 pm

Many of my former University System of Georgia colleagues find it interesting that those who criticize the protests must have no problem with the millions of dollars filling the pockets of their employer – our State’s higher education system – the Board of Regents of the USG. They encourage you to read the article noted at the end of this post, and remember, there is more…much more hidden. Just ask their attorney, our state’s Attorney General, Sam Olens. He and his office just filed an Objection in the Fulton County Superior Court to the Motion that would have allowed you to finally read the ethical and fiscal violations by HIS defendants – the Board of Regents of the USG (now in the hands of SACS/COC). And Governor Deal just appointed Sam Olens the attorney for the new Ethics Commission Director! You really think that Attorney General Olens is going to disclose ethical violations by the very people he defends? Our elected officials may be that stupid, but most Georgians are not.In regard to Occupy Atlanta, see: http://www.atlantaunfiltered.com/2009/10/05/university-execs-deferred-pay-often-hidden-tops-7-million/

kjs

October 28th, 2011
4:26 pm

where hard-earned lottery dollars are doled out to the scion of wealthy families, – gee and i thought hope was based on your grades?
the Legislature recently considered authorizing the death penalty on a non-unanimous jury vote, – the operative word is CONSIDERED. come on jim, time to refuel on marble juice.

BOB FROM ACCOUNT TEMPS

October 28th, 2011
4:28 pm

Independent voter

October 28th, 2011
4:14 pm
obama’s student load program saves the average student $4.00 a month.

Chuck Doberman

October 28th, 2011
4:32 pm

@Sources

Since I’m not involved in the movement I can’t speak for it, only give an opinion. (a thought not shared by many, but that’s how I feel about it) I believe, however, that the list provided is somewhat accurate. I simply don’t agree with the hardline conclusions that SAWB reached while reading it

Mike

October 28th, 2011
4:33 pm

Yes Independent Voter, Mayor Reed is in some way being controlled by the money people. They are the ones who pay taxes and helped get him elected. I can imagine he got a few phone calls from the producers saying, ” O.K. Kaseem enough is enough, these occupier folks need to be convinced that it is time to move on”.
Apparently you and your utopic followers live in a dream world if you thought something else was gonna happen dude. The “doers” are the ones who get to call the shots. Not the “slackers”, thank goodness.
You LaLa land “dreamers” are hellbent on turning this country into a third world nation.

dre

October 28th, 2011
4:33 pm

Another great job of weather forecasting by our local meteorologists. It’s 4:30 and the nearest rain is 350 miles away. So much for that 80% chance. LOL

Abe

October 28th, 2011
4:40 pm

Shine, are you kidding? Tell me in detail how the Federal Reserve is inflating workers dollars value away. That’s preposterous and drips with conspiracy; a common theme of the left. Educate us all as to how the Fed works and our banking system in general. Them tell me if the Fed has such power , why don’t they just buy us out of an almost zero growth economy; cure cancer; predict the 2nd coming; make a longer lasting gum; etc. Sounds like you are part of the 99% that wants a handout because you are too lazy to get off your duff and make your own way in the world.

Abe

October 28th, 2011
4:45 pm

By Shine…you too may want to read a little history to see when the Fed originated

atlmom

October 28th, 2011
4:47 pm

dre: 80% chance means that 20% chance of it NOT happening.

Anyway…the 99% are getting poorer? how you figure? don’t most people have cell phones/smart phones/cable tv/several bathrooms/etc etc etc in their houses? I don’t see it at all. I see us being way more prosperous than 30 or 40 years ago. The problem is that we all think that we should all be the 1% but we can’t be…by definition.

As for the occupy people feeding the homeless – that’s wonderful. GREAT. Y’all know that the government can’t solve our problems, don’t you? If you want ’someone’ to feed the homeless – then get up and do it. Our government does a lousy job at most things, except, for the most part, creating bureaucracy.

Generation X

October 28th, 2011
4:48 pm

Mike
October 28th, 2011
4:33 pm

“You LaLa land “dreamers” are hellbent on turning this country into a third world nation.”

It’s funny you should mention this point. I was under the impression the movement began because people (mostly young) were losing sight of dreams and don’t see much opportunity for their future. I feel a little responsible for my role in creating a country that is moving in this direction. Do you not?

“Apparently you and your utopic followers live in a dream world if you thought something else was gonna happen dude. The “doers” are the ones who get to call the shots. Not the “slackers”, thank goodness.”

Who exactly do you believe are the “doers”? I thought, as voters, we are all the “doers”. That doesn’t seem to be working out very well, does it? I think this is precisely one of the Occupiers’ messages you chose to ignore.

Jack

October 28th, 2011
4:57 pm

Can’t help but wonder how many of the Occupy bunch or their supporters ever voted. Or even know how use a voting machine.

Generation X

October 28th, 2011
4:59 pm

Abe
October 28th, 2011
4:40 pm

I’m not sure if this will answer your questions completely but, it might help to shed light on the problems.

http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2011/10/26/bernie-sanders-federal-reserve/?section=magazines_fortune

Abe

October 28th, 2011
5:00 pm

Gen X…if you have to ask who the ‘doers’ are, you apparently are not on of them. Grab your broom and get back to work!

Independent voter

October 28th, 2011
5:05 pm

I say give Occupy Atlanta a chance stop judgement on people you really have to be in there shoes.
They said Atlanta have a high poverty rate we should be focus on getting people from homeless to middle class but the rich people dont think that way.

Abe

October 28th, 2011
5:09 pm

Gen X…that article is bile. We’re supposed to take direction on how to run the Fed from a dedicated Marxist in Sanders?? Name all these ‘bankers’ that are running the Fed now leading us down the tubes. Further who do you suggest run the Fed? Would have a banker or two in the mix not be appropriate especially given their training, skillset, education, etc.? And who ever decided that a group of economists should ever guide policy, regulation and law for the Fed. If you believe that then you don’t know much about banking. Maybe you and your high school diploma should jump in there and shake things up…???

Generation X

October 28th, 2011
5:09 pm

Abe

The point is that we all should be the doers, as voting citizens. As my handle suggests, I came from a more prosperous generation when we felt we had a chance to succeed. I seized those opportunities that were ABUNDANT and I’m sitting fairly well at the moment. Unfortunately, that’s not the sentiment for many people today.

Abe

October 28th, 2011
5:13 pm

No, indepedent voter, that’s wrong! The rich just think you have bad grammar. You and Gen X should go out and start you’re own Fed. Better yet, your own country. We could call it the Island of Misfit Toys and feature you poor dolts on an animated Christmas Special. Get Shine to go with you.

Generation X

October 28th, 2011
5:15 pm

Abe

I know the CNN Money section is not for everyone. I apologize for wasting time trying to open your eyes.

Getouttahere

October 28th, 2011
5:16 pm

Employment workshops for the homeless? The vast majority of the homeless in Atlanta (and everywhere else) wouldn’t work a job if you paid them $60.00 an hour to taste pies in a pie factory.

cartoon

October 28th, 2011
5:17 pm

I wouldn’t put it quite that way, moron.

BILLY MAYS HERE

October 28th, 2011
5:22 pm

atlmom

October 28th, 2011
4:47 pm

Anyway…the 99% are getting poorer? how you figure? don’t most people have cell phones/smart phones/cable tv/several bathrooms/etc etc etc in their houses? I don’t see it at all. I see us being way more prosperous than 30 or 40 years ago. The problem is that we all think that we should all be the 1% but we can’t be…by definition.

Counterpoint: empirical evidence

Abe

October 28th, 2011
5:22 pm

Gen X…put the bong down. You sound like a wuss. I am in your generation but am tired of hearing rhetoric from wet noodles like you who just want everybody ‘to get along (read Rodney King)” and ‘to spread the wealth (read your pal Obama).” It sounds all PollyAnna-ish but you guys never really get anything done (you did say that you are SITTING fairly well…sitting I am sure is your preferred position…bending over maybe too). You spout all this sweet, warm fuzzy crap and take your cues from an out of the closet Marxist like Sanders. Admit it….you are a pathetic, oozing paratsite like Occupy!

BILLY MAYS HERE

October 28th, 2011
5:23 pm

atlmom

October 28th, 2011
4:47 pm

Our government does a lousy job at most things, except, for the most part, creating bureaucracy.

The government does an excellent job blowing up brown people half a world away, and spending a trillion dollars a year to do it.

casper09

October 28th, 2011
5:24 pm

abe you seen like a lonely mserable human many of us work hard and do well for ourselves you need to get some angry management help. i feel sorry for you

BILLY MAYS HERE

October 28th, 2011
5:25 pm

Abe

October 28th, 2011
5:22 pm

Gen X…put the bong down. You sound like a wuss. I am in your generation but am tired of hearing rhetoric from wet noodles like you who just want everybody ‘to get along (read Rodney King)” and ‘to spread the wealth (read your pal Obama).” It sounds all PollyAnna-ish but you guys never really get anything done (you did say that you are SITTING fairly well…sitting I am sure is your preferred position…bending over maybe too). You spout all this sweet, warm fuzzy crap and take your cues from an out of the closet Marxist like Sanders. Admit it….you are a pathetic, oozing paratsite like Occupy!

You are just a common reactionary spouting worn out rhetoric. Try harder.

Abe

October 28th, 2011
5:28 pm

BILLY MH…you and GenX must be suitemates. No?

Abe

October 28th, 2011
5:29 pm

You really could take some pointers from ole Billy and his last few days….

Abe

October 28th, 2011
5:31 pm

Exit this chat and go join the ding dongs in Woodruff park….IQ would go up in both places! Make take you some time to figure that one out.