Georgia fined Herman Cain $8k for failure to pay taxes

Four years ago, the state of Georgia placed an $8,558 lien on the Henry County home of GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain for failure to pay personal income taxes, ABC News reported today.

From the website:

Cain’s campaign was quick to point out to ABC News that Cain was undergoing treatment for Stage 4 cancer in 2006. A Cain spokesman said that due to his illness, Cain had requested — and was granted — a six-month extension of his federal taxes and had requested the same from the state, which Georgia allows.

Nevertheless, the state sent a delinquency notice to Cain in late 2007 and filed the lien in early 2008. Cain spokesman J.D. Gordon said Cain’s accountant had protested the delinquency to no avail.

The lien is for taxes in 2006. It was lifted in November 2008.

From Cain campaign J.D. Gordon:

”The experience serves as an example of how broken our federal and state bureaucracies are with respect to the collection of revenue. The entire process is driven by automated letters generated in response to deadlines.

“Mr. Cain responded in a timely manner to the delinquency notice sent by the Georgia Department of Revenue but was unable to stop the process that ultimately led to the filing of the tax lien. Once the lien was filed, it took nearly 10 months to get it removed.”

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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153 comments Add your comment

Aaron Burr V Mexico

October 26th, 2011
2:06 pm

Now not that I’m going to defend Timothy Geitner here, who is a monster, but by the Republican Standard, failure to pay your taxes means you can never run for anything. Wonder if we’re gonna see any outrage over this from the Contards?

No?

IOKIYAR.

td

October 26th, 2011
2:06 pm

Let us see if a lib will come on here and say that was an unfair attack on Cain due to his illness and due to the fact that the taxes have been paid now.

Pensive Southeast DeKalb Resident

October 26th, 2011
2:12 pm

@td,

Get a life. The Conservative/Liberal ‘Spin-Zone’ arguments are getting old. It was true and the Hermanator aptly responded to it.

Pete E. Tong

October 26th, 2011
2:15 pm

What a trivial nitpick.

He was in Texas recieving care for Stage 4 cancer – I doubt any of you could rationalize a priority for paying taxes if you had the 30% chance of survival Cain’s doctors gave to him. He paid the bill. If this is the best they can find on the guy, awesome. This will continue to be a cake walk.

Amazing

October 26th, 2011
2:18 pm

I don’t like Cain but this is really a irrelevant story. We need to hold the media accountable for the quality of their work. There is absolutely nothing relevant to the issues of today affecting Americans. Would Republicans attack if Cain was a Democrat? No question they would. But, the fact remains the story is irrelevant given the facts of what happened.

I Know You Are But What Am I

October 26th, 2011
2:23 pm

Lame, Herman, really lame.

A businessman of Mr. Cain’s reknown would have had a General Durable Power of Attorney in place, allowing an associate or spouse to dispense with legal and financial matters while he recuperated from cancer treatment.

If he had one and the taxes remained unpaid, he is a slouch. If he didn’t have one, he is a slouch.

See, wingnuts, when you set the bar impossibly high for the opposition, you continue to make a mockery of your own indiscretions.

Jimmy62

October 26th, 2011
2:24 pm

Yeah, we would attack- If there weren’t obvious extenuation circumstances, like cancer. Did Geithner have a similar excuse when he didn’t pay his taxes? Not at all. If he had, he wouldn’t have been attacked. Failure to pay taxes should be a big deal for politicians, but obviously having bad cancer changes things.

Pete E. Tong

October 26th, 2011
2:26 pm

@ I Know You Are But What Am I

Geithner was attacked because he didn’t pay taxes for 12 consecutive years. Cain was late, with a valid excuse, but ultimately paid.

Do you not see how stupid your comparison is? How do you even manage to breathe?

mum

October 26th, 2011
2:26 pm

Ok, he was receiving treatment for cancer in 2006, the notice was sent in late 2007, and the lien filed in 2008. I’m thinking that the point of this story is the Mr. Cain’s comments are pretty harsh saying the people’s financial problems are their own fault, given that he was even able to pay off the $8K lien and keep his house after 2 years.

Bravo

October 26th, 2011
2:26 pm

I totally agree with the “broken” tax system. I recently had a 12 month dispute with the State of GA over a perfectly 100% correct return. The issue started when they transcribed my taxes paid amount incorrectly. THe 1st letter of intent was issued 4 months after my check cleared. My actual tax return, and my check, have the correct number. Error #1 to GA. My dispute letter, with copies of my original (correct) documents supposedly never arrived at the tax office (although sent certified and signed for). SO, documents lost by GA – error #2. Resent…. received sent of ‘investigation’ … 9 weeks later, original error corrected, but the next day another letter stating I owe penalty and interest on unpaid amount. That took 2 months to fix. Yup – gotta love civil servants.

Jimmy62

October 26th, 2011
2:27 pm

I know you are: What’s this impossibly high bar? We expected the head of the treasury, who was in good health, to pay his taxes. I don’t think that’s unreasonable, nor is it unreasonable to expect that someone dealing with cancer might not be able to pay on time. Are you alleging that Geithner had stage 4 cancer when he decided not to pay his taxes?

Aaron Burr V Mexico

October 26th, 2011
2:29 pm

Always an excuse. Stage 4 cancer or not you’d defend him.

Loyalty above all. The Party is Mother. The Party is Father. The Party is all.

Aaron Burr V Mexico

October 26th, 2011
2:30 pm

Case in point. # of Contards attacking Rush for calling the Marines in OWS ‘fake’?

0.

That makes you all Westboro Baptist members in my book.

Pete E. Tong

October 26th, 2011
2:31 pm

@ Aaron Burr V Mexico

What an incomprehensibly stupid statement. No facts; just spouting off what you’ve determined as reality.

I Know You Are But What Am I

October 26th, 2011
2:31 pm

I would expect the head of our treasury to pay his taxes. Ditto a man who wants the most important job on the planet. Political affiliations are irrelevant; the office itself demands those who enforce the laws for their constituents to obey them themselves.

RON PAUL 2012

October 26th, 2011
2:31 pm

Enter your comments here

Pete E. Tong

October 26th, 2011
2:32 pm

“Case in point. # of Contards attacking Rush for calling the Marines in OWS ‘fake’?

0.”

The hell does this have to do with Rush?

What’s the saying? It’s better to be thought of as an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt?

Independent voter

October 26th, 2011
2:32 pm

If president Obama didnt pay taxes the republicans will make sure he would have drop out of the race. Cain no excuse please drop out of the race.

ronr

October 26th, 2011
2:32 pm

Now he qualifies for running as he achieved what several of the currently elected liberals have done.

Pete E. Tong

October 26th, 2011
2:33 pm

“I would expect the head of our treasury to pay his taxes. Ditto a man who wants the most important job on the planet. Political affiliations are irrelevant; the office itself demands those who enforce the laws for their constituents to obey them themselves.”

…..but Cain did pay his taxes….

Jesus Christ, you cannot be this stupid.

Jimmy62

October 26th, 2011
2:33 pm

Mum: And as stated in the column, he did all the necessary paperwork in plenty of time, but the inefficient government bureaucracy couldn’t keep up. I’m sure we’ve all been in similar situations, though few of us had to deal with it at the same time as cancer. You liberals have no compassion.

ghp_fan

October 26th, 2011
2:35 pm

Sounds like his problem was with the State of Georgia.
How would he fix that if he becomes President of the United States?

I Know You Are But What Am I

October 26th, 2011
2:36 pm

Hey Pete: Two friggin’ years late he paid them. No excuse. Cancer? Not my problem. Other aspects of his life chugged on while he underwent treatment. The man is running for President, not the manager of your neighborhood McDonalds.

Sounds to me like lovable Mr. Cain is a bit of a slacker when it comes to paying up on time on his obligations to the State of Georgia.

Aaron Burr V Mexico

October 26th, 2011
2:37 pm

OK, I’ll use small words so you can understand.

Rush is the keeper of Orthodoxy for your sad little reality.

If any leader says something that violates your reality, Rush condemns it and the leader immediately changes course, including Herman Cain.

So by refusing to condemn your Dear Leader, you are taking place in his blaspheme against our troops when he calls some of them ‘fake’.

I can use single syllables if it will help you understand…

DIOR

October 26th, 2011
2:40 pm

OH NO! NOT THE HERMAN CAIN THAT SAYS IF YOU ARE POOR AND UNEMPLOYED IT’S YOUR FAULT. WELL MR CAIN LOOKS LIKE YOU MAY HAVE BEEN POOR AT A TIME IN YOUR LIFE!

KBP

October 26th, 2011
2:41 pm

I Know You Are . . . Lame? Wow. Cain is no different than other educated Americans who could use some financial housekeeping. His expertise is as a CEO and that is how he thinks primarily. I am in the financial services business and many people would be surprised at how many well educated, financially succesful people have no GDPOA in place nor basic wills for that matter, until SOMEONE or SOMETHING prompts them to do so. Lots of well educated millionaires can make money easily but greatly struggle at managing/preserving/administrating it. I totally agree that he should and most everyone should do such planning but having not done it does not make him lame and I also agree with your last statement about setting the bar impossibly high . . .

I am not picking a fight with you but merely adding a different perspective.

RGB

October 26th, 2011
2:43 pm

Democrats believe taxes should be paid by the little people.

Only when his nomination for Treasury Secretary occurred did Timmy Geithner become motivated to pay his taxes. Cain didn’t wait for a cabinet appointment to pay his taxes.

@mum: Re: “….people’s financial problems are their own fault…”, you know that he was talking about the Occupy Wall Street bums ONLY, but you persist in attributing his comment to EVERYONE. Bottom line: People don’t take you seriously when you don’t tell the truth.

I Know You Are But What Am I

October 26th, 2011
2:45 pm

KBP

I don’t disagree in the least with your assessment. Most attorneys that I know don’t have a will OR a GDPOA. But on the other hand, most of the general public will hear the plight of Mr. Cain and imagine that he had no other recourse in the midst of his cancer treatment, and as a layman, I would tend to agree with them. However, as a businessman, I know better, and so does Herman. If he doesn’t, then I certainly wouldn’t trust him with the minutia incumbent upon the holder of the office of the Presidency.

Point well taken.

John Galt

October 26th, 2011
2:49 pm

@Aaron Burr V Mexico -

You sir, are voluntarily ignorant. Cain had an approved extension but it failed to stop the lien process as it should have. A federal extension results in an AUTOMATIC state extension. The lien was filed IN ERROR and it took until 2008 to get through the bureaucratic mess to remove it.

By law, he was not actually delinquent; but unlike the Treasury Secretary, it was resolved before the media highlighted it.

Cain has integrity and it has nothing to do with Rush, you moron. You should seek help for your Limbaugh fetish-

And yes, I AM a CPA-

Aaron Burr V Mexico

October 26th, 2011
2:50 pm

@RGB – Democrats don’t believe anything at all except what will get them elected and still get them money from their corporate overlords.

PROGRESSIVES on the other hand believe taxes should be paid by the rich.

Of course…*I* believe taxes at this point should be paid by the rich and Teatards, but that’s just me.

Mark

October 26th, 2011
2:53 pm

@td…..Why don’t you hold a conservative press conference at the Eagle Bar you queer.

honested

October 26th, 2011
2:54 pm

The important thing is that mr. non-viable-Candidate paid his taxes.
After the campaign, he might make a good spokesmodel for the IRS in
bird-dogging other wrong wing tax cheats to appeal to their ‘patriotism’.

N.D.Batson

October 26th, 2011
2:56 pm

Well what have we here? I’m a senior woman of color and I don’t give a good cahoot that he didn’t pay . He’s just another man ,being a led by by the GOP.Remember that t song? I’m Your Puppet?
He can come and pay mine…OWN.

Independent voter

October 26th, 2011
2:57 pm

hey mark guess what td said she or he have a husband so I assume it a woman.

Aaron Burr V Mexico

October 26th, 2011
2:57 pm

@John Galt – Using the name of a character from an Ann Rayn Rape Fantasy novel and then calling someone ignorant is a bit silly.

Also Cain has plenty to do with Rush as soon as he reverses an opinion when Rush complains.

And I’m glad you’re a CPA. I am glad for you. I’m sure you know how to use playdoh too.

I Know You Are But What Am I

October 26th, 2011
2:59 pm

There is an inaccuracy in this report, however. The state tax execution was not filed against Mr. Cain’s home; rather, it placed a judgment lien on all of his property, real, personal or mixed.

There would be dozens of certified mails sent from the Department of Revenue to the Cains, both prior to and subsequent to the filing of this execution. Mrs. Cain was also named. The fact that Mr. Cain was medically indisposed is frankly irrelevant. Their credit rating would be adversely affected.

Don’t believe for a moment that 1) Mr. Cain didn’t know or 2) the billing was in error. As President of the United States, Mr. Cain would not give YOU a free pass for screwing up.

Folks, we can do better than this in Washington.

Vote for Jesus Christ in November 2012.

td

October 26th, 2011
3:00 pm

Mark

October 26th, 2011
2:53 pm

Guess what Mark. Your philosophy has failed, your are going to have to get off welfare soon, get a real job and work for someone like me. BTW: your vote here in Georgia next year for Obama is not going to counted, so you might as well come to my business and put in that application so I can fire you for having a bad attitude.

Big Daddy

October 26th, 2011
3:02 pm

So, Cain’s a “tax cheat”! Is his buddy Boortz gonna call him out for that every blessed time he opens his mouth? Like he does for one of Obama’s men? Not bloody likely.

Aaron Burr V Mexico

October 26th, 2011
3:04 pm

@I Know – Shhhh….you’re breaking apart their carefully choreographed defense of Cain. They don’t like facts, they burn.

td

October 26th, 2011
3:04 pm

Aaron Burr V Mexico

October 26th, 2011
2:37 pm

Your life my friend would be a lot better if you would listen to Rush everyday and take his philosophy to heart. You would be a lot richer, happier and be in a better place in your heart.

Aaron Burr V Mexico

October 26th, 2011
3:06 pm

@TD – I don’t listen to members of the Westboro Babtist Church. Rush Limbaugh hates our armed forces. Well, he likes some that are conservative, but he hates the rest otherwise he wouldn’t call Marines at OWS ‘fake’.

Have you paid your tithe to Westboro lately?

Sundawg

October 26th, 2011
3:08 pm

@Pete
Some people are just too moronic to go back and forth with.
You have good points

Redcoat

October 26th, 2011
3:08 pm

Mark…….get some rest…..you’re acting stupidly!

Mark

October 26th, 2011
3:09 pm

@td

Fortunately I’m educated and stable enough in my finances and career that I don’t have to come on here bragging about having a Kennesaw State degree.

Why don’t you get a new comment and stop posting the same crap everyday? Oh I forgot, it’s hard to see in your trailer home.

I’m still willing to be you are a gay republican. No real man would come one here and “rant” like you do every day.

honested

October 26th, 2011
3:09 pm

Big Daddy,

Heck he would probably find being a tax cheat another reason to shower pointless, hollow praise on the non-viable-Candidate.
Then go to the newtster to find out what he is blabbering about today.

Archdog

October 26th, 2011
3:10 pm

I’m failing to see what’s the big deal here. He was late on his taxes, presumably due to his illness, but he’s since paid up in full with penalties and fees. What’s next he once got a speeding ticket? I mean things happen in life (like cancer) but you take responsibilty for them. Which he did. He didn’t ask for anyone to write off the debt, or never ending extensions, or the fees. This is pretty weak and anyone wanting to exploit someone’s battle with Cancer must’ve been a John Edwards fan.

I Know You Are But What Am I

October 26th, 2011
3:12 pm

“This is pretty weak and anyone wanting to exploit someone’s battle with Cancer must’ve been a John Edwards fan.”

…or Newt Gingrich’s ex-wife…

td

October 26th, 2011
3:15 pm

Mark

October 26th, 2011
3:09 pm

Who is ranting? Typical lib. When you can not argue the facts try to bash the other side. I would hate to live life knowing the philosophy I built my character own has turned out to be built on false hope and no change. That is of coarse if you have enough intellectual capability to have thought out a personal philosophy. Keep up the bashing because it just shows your lack of intelligence.

Aaron Burr V Mexico

October 26th, 2011
3:17 pm

@TD

I see you looked up your Ann Coulter ‘If you must talk to a liberal’ for Kindergartner’s fact kit.

I have personally seen YOU use that tactic so much its not even funny.

Hypocrisy, thy name is Conservative. IOKIYAR.

PAthetic.

jayone

October 26th, 2011
3:18 pm

I would have to agree with the statement by:I Know You Are But What Am I. If Mr. Cain was married at that to which I think he was why didn’t his wife pay the bill? If there was a way to look at there Tax reutrn during that time it might show that he file married. So why couln’t the wife pay the bill, or was money so tight back then? I think as CEO of Godfathers Pizza he made quite a sum of money.