Wow. What Harry Belafonte said about Herman Cain

The folks over at CNN have just sent over a snippet of an interview with actor, singer and political activist Harry Belafonte on “The Joy Behar Show.” The entire interview will be on hold until 10 p.m. Friday on HLN:

A partial transcript:

Behar: ….Now you have someone like Herman Cain –

Belafonte: Who?

Behar: Herman Cain.

Belafonte: Herman Cain….

Behar: You know who he is. (Laughs) And he doesn’t believe that racism holds anyone back, in any way now. What do you think about that statement?

Belafonte: It’s very hard to comment on somebody who is so denied intelligence – and certainly who is denied a view of history, such as he reveals. He knows very little. Because he happened to have good fortune, because he happened to have had a moment when he broke through — the moment someone blinked – does not make him the authority on the plight of people of color.

If black people are not having the worst time of it, all you need to do is take a look at the prison system. We have the largest prison population in the world. The largest members of that population are black and people of color….

The Republican party, the tea party, all those forces to the extreme right, have consistently tried to come up with representation for what they call black, for what they call the real Negroes, and try to push these images as the kinds of voices that Americans should be listening to.

So we have Condoleezza Rice, we’ve got Colin Powell – they’re heroes for some people. But for a lot us, they’re not.

And Herman Cain is the latest incarnation of what is totally false to the needs of our community, and the needs of our nation. I think he’s a bad apple, and people should look at his hole card. He’s not what he says he is.

Behar: No, I don’t think he has a prayer in the election, anyway.

Belafonte: I don’t think prayers were created for him.

Here was Cain’s response, via The Hill newspaper in D.C.:

“As far as Harry Belafonte’s comment, look, I left the Democratic plantation a long time ago. And all that they try to do when someone like me — and I’m not the only black person out there that shares these conservative views — the only tactic that they have to try and intimidate me and shut me up is to call me names, and this sort of thing. It just simply won’t work,” Cain said.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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344 comments Add your comment

DannyX

October 11th, 2011
1:01 pm

“Belafonte: I don’t think prayers were created for him.”

Republicans changed that. The rich now have a 99.9% chance of of getting into heaven. The rich thought the Bible was using class warfare and deleted the stuff from the Bible that they didn’t like. So yes now God loves the rich.

We need to tax the poor, sick and elderly.
We need a new stadium for Arthur and the group.
We need the poor to sell their belongings and give the money to a job creator.
We must make sure not everyone one of Gods children receives health care.

“Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a poor person to enter the kingdom of God.” FIXED

I am NOT Troy Davis

October 11th, 2011
1:06 pm

hole card. He’s not what he says he is.

(W)hole….typo! Come on AJC!

Smokewagon

October 11th, 2011
1:07 pm

Who gives a rats arse what this Moonbat says about anything??? Meaningless blabber.

Red

October 11th, 2011
1:09 pm

So are we to ‘prefer’ the representation of what Black is according to Democrats? Because right now between the two I think the “Republican representation” offers far more hope and would be much more appealing. And his whole card? What is that Harry? Are you saying that if a Black man doesn’t fit your profile and YOUR representation, he’s not a TRUE Black man? Are you saying that a man who decided to make it on his own and actually earn wealth and status, live his life how HE chose to be,doesn’t fit the mold of a true Black man? It’s sounding like unless he’s some community organizer type or in the prison as you pointed out, he’s not a true Black man. In other words, to all Black children, don’t be successful. You are better to fit the role if you are in jail. Makes sense Harry.

jgalloway

October 11th, 2011
1:10 pm

Dear I am NOT Troy Davis:

Here’s the definition of “hole card” from thefreedictionary.com:

A card in stud poker that is dealt face-down and that the holder is not obliged to reveal before the showdown.

I think it works.

Red

October 11th, 2011
1:11 pm

DannyX – logical fallacy on your part. Who is saying that? No one. Just keep making up stuff. I think a cardboard sign at a park is calling your name.

RAMZAD

October 11th, 2011
1:11 pm

Harry is right. Herman Cain is a fraud.

The (W)Hole card

October 11th, 2011
1:12 pm

You may not be troy davis, but you arent much smarter either… In AJC’s and Belafonte’s defense… A hole card is a poker term, as in the “ace in the hole”… The card you keep hidden until the list minute that will nearly guarantee your win.

Lissie

October 11th, 2011
1:12 pm

…”because he happened to have had a moment when he broke through — the moment someone blinked…”

Uhhh, yeah well I guess in Herman Cain’s case, the ‘blink’ing has lasted about 20 years. And if you apply that view to Obama’s rise, then the Dems electing him was merely a blink and not the racial victory they portrayed it as.

Harry Belefonte…what a maroon.

Steve From Dalton

October 11th, 2011
1:13 pm

Belafonte called Colin Powell a “houseboy” a few years back. Belafonte opinions carry no weight with me. He is one of thoose who claims to see through color….unless they don’t think like he does.

MomPossible

October 11th, 2011
1:14 pm

It is utterly perposterous for a person whose greatest accomplishment was a song about bananas to denigrate such great American achievers as Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell and Herman Cain.

BillS

October 11th, 2011
1:16 pm

Whatever you may think of Cain — good or bad — he WILL NOT be the Republican candidate for President in 2012. Everything else is just talk.

ryan

October 11th, 2011
1:17 pm

Harry Belafonte has been throwing bombs at the GOP for years, he is a relic from another era and his outspokeness has damaged his career.

Jim Galloway continues to write hit pieces on Cain, like last weeks irrevelant gem regarding Tiger Woods, makes me think Mr. Galloway is scared that Cain may be catching fire

Home about some hometown love, President Peanut has been treated with kid gloves by this paper over the years…where’s the balance

Bill Lewis

October 11th, 2011
1:19 pm

Sad that these two people are blinded by their own beliefs. Those on the left are so full of hate for people who do not think as they do! Free speech is for everyone on the left but not for conservatives in their minds! Herman has good ideas but those Belafonte and Joy have nothing but hate!

Good Grief

October 11th, 2011
1:19 pm

I would take Cain over Obama any day of the week. And I would love for someone to explain to me that I’m being racist because of that opinion.

DannyX – Just to focus on only one part of your comment, let me ask you a question: How exactly should a person create more jobs if government keeps taking away their economic means to do so?

If I were running a small business, and the government said we have to raise your taxes, then that means I have to formulate some way to stay profitable, or the whole business goes under. I can either raise my prices or lower my overhead. Lowering overhead is typically easier, because you can cut costs and even employees if you need to. But if you raise your rates, then you lose customers. Doesn’t matter how many jobs you create, once you lose customers your business is done. But keep thinking that the only way out of this mess is by taxing the rich.

Renee

October 11th, 2011
1:20 pm

Lissie, be careful about saying Belafonte is a “moron.” What you don’t know is that Harry Belafonte is much more than a calypso singer. He was an activist for civil rights long before that. Long before Dr. King was elected president of the Montgomery Improvement Association in 1954. In the early days of Dr. King’s activism, he sought the counsel and support of a then-established Harry Belafonte. He was active in the Movement before you were born. He is a credible witness to the struggles of African Americans and an excellent source of knowlege on the African American experience.

Ringer

October 11th, 2011
1:20 pm

So one of the most successful black men in America who brought back two businesses from the brink, worked for the US Navy as a ballistics analyst, has two different degrees from two different colleges plus another 8 honorary degrees, and received the Horatio Alger Award for exemplifying dedication, purpose, and perseverance in their personal lives is “denied intelligence” and “happened to have good fortune”.

I hate to think of what he would have said of Jesus had Mr. Belafonte been around at that time.

jarvis

October 11th, 2011
1:21 pm

Harry Belafonte is relevant?

Good Grief

October 11th, 2011
1:21 pm

Herman Cain leads in most of the polls and is statistically tied with Obama right now. Please tell me why I should go on and discount him from this race. I honestly want to know. It confuses me that someone who has surged the way he has and has taken the lead is automatically discounted seemingly across the board.

are you insane

October 11th, 2011
1:22 pm

Are you kidding me? Why does that moonbat Joy have a talk show??
I remember people saying Obama wouldn’t make it either and gee look at him now..

Fred

October 11th, 2011
1:22 pm

I’m still trying to figure out who is more intellectually vapid, Harry or Joy. Why would anyone care what either of them say. (LOL I almost said “think” but neither of them has the ability to think.)

Doesn’t matter. I still don’t like Pizzaman Cain.

gilbert

October 11th, 2011
1:23 pm

I won’t listen to the opinion of this singer anymore than I do to Lady Gaga. Entertainers have opinions just like everyone else they just have a larger podium to irritate people. I think Mr. Cain has some good ideas and I believe that if you really want to work you will go to any means necessary just like the Dust Bowlers did when they migrated to California during the 30’s. There’s work out there you just have to be willing to do it. Also, while you were collecting your unemployment did you think it might be a good time to re-invent yourself with another trade or some education to enable you to get another job.

Lilburn Lady

October 11th, 2011
1:23 pm

Some other famous quotes from Harry Belafonte who is apparently the authority on “denied intelligence”.

“If you believe in freedom, if you believe in justice, if you believe in democracy, you have no choice but to support Fidel Castro!” (Harry Belafonte).

“Hitler had a lot of Jews high up in the hierarchy of the Third Reich. Color does not necessarily denote quality, content or value,” (Harry Belafonte)

The American singer and activist Harry Belafonte called President Bush “the greatest terrorist in the world” on Sunday and said millions of Americans support the socialist revolution of Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez.

Belafonte accused U.S. news media of falsely painting Hugo Chavez as a “dictator,” when in fact, he said, there is democracy and citizens are “optimistic about their future.” (Harry Belafonte visiting Venezuela as a “Goodwill Ambassador” for the United States.

“Barack Obama and his mission has failed because it lacked a certain kind of moral courage, a kind of moral vision . . . a kind of courage we are in need of,” said the King of Calypso.
“When he said ‘Yes, we can,’ it was politically clever, but he never defined what it is we can do. So we filled in those spaces — what we thought he meant — only to find we were disappointed, because none of those points was satisfied.” (Harry Belafonte)

So as a socialist/communist and great admirer of Castro and Chavez, a man who is so left-wing, he is too liberal to agree with Obama’s policies, now says that if a black man believes anyone can make it in the U.S., regardless of race, then that man lacks intelligence. And we care about Harry Belafonte because?

Cantankerous

October 11th, 2011
1:24 pm

Who is Harry Belafonte? Is he a resident or alien?

lulu

October 11th, 2011
1:25 pm

@Red – It matters not who is creating the description if the description doesn’t match the reality. The Cain/Republican description of what it’s like to be black in this country just doesn’t match reality for the majority. It’s fine for Cain to say that racism hasn’t had an impact on Herman Cain; it’s a fallacy to say that it no longer affects any person of color in the US. If we are going to let somebody describe a group of people, it certainly shouldn’t be Herman Cain – just one guy who by his own admission hasn’t experienced what the rest of the black community is experiencing.

td

October 11th, 2011
1:26 pm

Belafonte is just another field boss for his white liberal plantation masters. He will say and do anything to keep the scraps coming in from the big house.

Cain’s words and example can break the shackles and set free a large proportion of the African American community from the entitlement plantation the white liberals have them on. It will not be easy but it can be done.

Denver

October 11th, 2011
1:26 pm

What a moron. Belafonte has lived a lavish lifestyle for years because of his own success, yet attributes the success of Cain and Rice and Powell as if they got there by dumb luck rather than their merits. I think he is the one promoting a cultural bias against people of color. He seems to think that the only way someone of color can be successful is to sing and dance, or get lucky. Hogwash, and shame on him. Shame on me for reading the article.

Venita Peyton

October 11th, 2011
1:27 pm

Mr. Bellafonte has played many roles, but he’s NOT God. He used the system to his advantage as much as anyone else.

J Throckmorton Malcontent

October 11th, 2011
1:28 pm

In Cain, the T-GOP finally found someone racist enough for them. They were heartbroken when it turned out Perry secretly wanted to treat his Hispanic population as though they were real Texans. Now they can pretend to rally behind ol’ Sleep-N-Eat Cain.

Mark

October 11th, 2011
1:30 pm

Belafonte hit the nail on the head. Herman Cain seems shaky and it won’t be long before all his dear followers find out he is a fraud. No foreign policy platform at all. All this guy has is his 999 plan, which would bankrupt the hell out of America.

Atlantan

October 11th, 2011
1:30 pm

Harry Belaftonte and Joy Behar deserve one another. Both are very hateful and venomous people.

KP

October 11th, 2011
1:31 pm

@Good Grief 1:19pm

You’re not a racist for preferring Cain over Obama. But your business analogy needs some work. It’s amazing how everyone is willing to defend taxing the ultra rich more, but its ok for republicans to place more of a burden on the middle and lower classes without any concern. When you cut Medicaid and Medicare that hits the middle class not the rich. When you cut unemployment benefits, that hits the middle class not the rich. When you cut Pell Grants and Student Loans, that hurts the middle class not the rich. Why not stand up for those things instead of complaining about a 5% surcharge on millionaires?

double

October 11th, 2011
1:34 pm

Red I would think a black man would know his needs. He knows the party that best fill his need.Don’t need no Whitey telling how to vote.You show by telling him what he needs that you think you are superior.Also the Republican party members are superior.The Black would not exist in America if he was stupid,could not think for self.As in all, some sharper than others.Let the people decide without the help of those who think they are more intelligent.

bdwilliams25121

October 11th, 2011
1:36 pm

All this comming from a guy who tried most of his life to pass (as a white man) while other blacks struggled. Now he hangs out with radical dictators like Hugo Chavez, which makes him an authority on the struggles of black folk!!! And Fred, that Pizzaman was also Rocketman Cain for the US Navy!

DannyX

October 11th, 2011
1:36 pm

“DannyX – Just to focus on only one part of your comment, let me ask you a question: How exactly should a person create more jobs if government keeps taking away their economic means to do so?”

What are you talking about? Herman Cain’s tax plan would hurt the poor. PERIOD. You hear poor and most Republican minds here turn to poor black women having babies and collecting welfare. Or an illegal WORKER going to the ER.

When I think of the poor I think of the working poor, a lot of old people, and the disabled, the unemployed, they FAR outnumber the people who abuse the system. Taxing them to lighten the tax load on the wealthy is absurd and mean spirited. The Jesus values that Republicans like Herman Cain the minister preach are not based on the Bible.

Are they????? The latest Republican public enemy number one is the unemployed. How dare they.

Atlanta1

October 11th, 2011
1:37 pm

Who cares.

He is ultra left – what did you think he would say?

But The Emperor Isn't Wearing Any Clothes!

October 11th, 2011
1:37 pm

I’m not a republican and I don’t like Herman Cain, but he’s right about the problem of race and Belafonte is wrong. “If black people are not having the worst time of it, all you need to do is take a look at the prison system.” I’ve got news for you, Harry. The prisons are full of the people who BREAK THE LAW. White people are not to blame for that; the people in prison who broke the law are. Why don’t you stop blaming white people for this and instead tell “your people” to STOP BREAKING THE LAW.

Southerngurl

October 11th, 2011
1:37 pm

Hermain Cain is a joke. He will find that out soon enough.

Honky for Herman

October 11th, 2011
1:37 pm

What a joke this Belafonte guy is. Talk about “a blink?” Now THERE is a case of the pot calling the kettle.. Never mind. Only thing I have ever heard about him is when they play “Day-O” at the Braves game, to which I usually boo instead of joining in, knowing this moron’s warped view of the world. Until this one-hit-wonder does something meaningful in the world, I’ll be the one you hear booing at the playing of his “song” at sporting events. I encourage you to do the same. It goes like this- DAAAAAY – OH- BOOOOOOOOOO.

Proud Honky for Herman!!!!

globeflyer

October 11th, 2011
1:37 pm

Herman Cain is proof that “people of color” do not fit a particular “mold” and are quite capable of thinking for themselves. Bellafonte, and others of his mind-set, believe that African-Americans owe the Democratic Party for everything they have, while, in reality, the present Democratic Party has damaged the self-esteem and work ethic of a lot of Blacks. In doing so, it has kept a whole lot more “Herman Cain’s” from emerging. If you don’t know what Mr. Cain has accomplished, you need to do some research. A smart man who has not let the color of his skin hold him back.

JKB

October 11th, 2011
1:37 pm

Wow. And this is relevant how? Belefonte the has-been protecting his White House n—er Obama from the real thing. Obama has no idea what the “Black Experience” is, by blood or sweat or tears. Ph-O-ny.

Red

October 11th, 2011
1:37 pm

lulu – first of all no one in the GOP is trying to create the description of Black. So right off the bat your argument is pointless. Cain uses his own situation being brought up in the heart of the Civil Rights movement as a means to show one overcoming adversity and stereotypes.

What your logic says is that Obama’s experience does not match either and the same comments could be applied to himself as well. How can Obama claim to represent a group when he himself grew up either in another country or in a mixed ethnicity state like Hawaii.

And you are telling me that growing up in the south during the 50’s and 60’s is not experiencing what other Blacks experienced? Are you saying you get your “Black card” revoked because you became wealthy and educated? You forget any prior history? If that’s the case then all of these current Black leaders who live in some very nice homes with some large bank accounts have to lose their card as well.

Jake

October 11th, 2011
1:39 pm

dixiesdemons

October 11th, 2011
1:39 pm

” No, I don’t think he has a prayer in the election, anyway.”

You guys know the usual white guy will be the GOP nominee. The usual white guys will vote for the usual white guy that is the GOP nominee. Cain is a sideshow that will be asked to give a speech at the GOP convention.

Vote for Obama cause he's black

October 11th, 2011
1:40 pm

I am for Herman,he tells it like it is,brings a brand new perspective to America.It doesn’t matter what Belafonte says,his singing and acting career has been over for a long time,this is a just a way for him to get attention.
Sharpton,Jackson,Lowery,the NAACP are about to get cut out of their programs if Herman gets elected.They will no longer be able to pimp the poor and maintain their 20 bedroom homes.
Honkie’s For Herman in 2012 !

Dumb and Dumber

October 11th, 2011
1:41 pm

You bet, only the dems spout hate!

All those right-wingers/Tea-Hat folks who called Obama a secret jihadist, muslim, Kenyan, Naz-Socialist, Hitler wannabe, who hates white people and is out to destroy America…. those are just god-fearing real americans.

Sure. Keep believing that. Seems both sides need to be taken to the woodshed to me.

bdwilliams25121

October 11th, 2011
1:42 pm

Check out all the large progessive Dem controlled cities throughout the US…African American unemployment is close to 50%. African Americans really do need to leave the Dem “Plantation”!

JB

October 11th, 2011
1:42 pm

So let me see if I have this right….If you are black, educated, successful, obey the law, talk properly,
Believe in opportunity for all…if you’re willing to help yourself…..you are a failure in Harry’s eyes?
Keeping blacks down is a Democrats dream. They have had you since 1965 and how’s that working for you. The democrats will tell you it the rich white man republicans keeping you down…Really?
News flash….Learn how to fish and quit standing in line waiting for a fish.

dre

October 11th, 2011
1:44 pm

“The Republican party, the tea party, all those forces to the extreme right, have consistently tried to come up with representation for what they call black, for what they call the real Negroes, and try to push these images as the kinds of voices that Americans should be listening to. So we have Condoleezza Rice, we’ve got Colin Powell – they’re heroes for some people. But for a lot us, they’re not.” Interesting

Red

October 11th, 2011
1:44 pm

double – I’m asking questions. If you think I am telling someone how to vote you have reading comprehension issues. I think Cain proves that “Black” is not some stereotype like Belafante says. Harry thinks you have to be a certain profile to be Black. Sounds pretty bigoted there. If a White person made that categorization it would be called racism. And I will call it that….racism on his part.